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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 28, 2018 23:48:57 GMT -5
It seems that he has had more than a couple of willing participants, and , of these participants, how many went only into it for the money?? for a little money,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Yes, it is good to see the Star of the Democratic Party is Stormy Daniels. You morality is beyond question?? Or should that be !!!!
No doubt some did voluntarily have sex with the pig. But trump himself said he tried to force himself on a married woman and she rebuffed his advances. The pig is lucky she didn't file sexual assault charges against him. Who knows-maybe the pig paid her off too. Please don't insult pigs. They're far better behaved than Trump.
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Post by ednkris on Jul 29, 2018 1:14:24 GMT -5
Feeling fine here....no you didn't prove it in his own words. The talking point was about him saying he grabs women by their p&&&y, which he did not say. ... You might want to read what you posted: I have still don't see it The problem with the left they only want what was already actually proven for accounting from comservatives but yet want their word as taken for granted. Example can't or won't connect the dots on the dossier but will say Trump is a womanizer, Im thinking Dennis Prager is right the left is a disease they think with fealing instead of facts Your talking point was that the left uses feelings instead of facts using the let's claim of President Trump being a womanizer. I, as a representative of the left, used the fact that he personally stated he engages in womanizing behavior to support my thinking that he is a womanizer. Ehhh I don't think I would call kissing a womanizer maybe. When I listen to the audio what I hear is the bloviation of a rich playboy. Either way the point I was making is that we all have done things we are not so proud of. It doesn't have to define us, and I feel assured trumps playboy lifestyle does not hinder his ability to lead. The issue I have is most left and liberals , never Trumpers that don't like the fact he is president will hold onto anything and use any trivial issue blow it out of proportion to justify their feelings. It's actually quite sad.
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Post by Opti on Jul 29, 2018 1:23:05 GMT -5
"I feel assured trumps playboy lifestyle does not hinder his ability to lead. " Question, did you feel the same way about Bill Clinton? "The issue I have is most left and liberals , never Trumpers that don't like the fact he is president will hold onto anything and use any trivial issue blow it out of proportion to justify their feelings. It's actually quite sad. " I don't like Trump as a President. I don't need to blow up any issue he's done, nor do most anti-Trump folks. The real shit is quite bad and awful all by itself. I don't need to justify my feelings anymore than most of the right needed to justify their feelings about Hillary by making up or following outrageous conspiracy theories. What's sad to me is seeing Trump as a leader, although I suppose he is in a way if you like bad over-controlling bosses who treat you like shit if you don't constantly suck up to them.
Not potatoe/potato.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 29, 2018 4:54:45 GMT -5
You might want to read what you posted: I have still don't see it Your talking point was that the left uses feelings instead of facts using the let's claim of President Trump being a womanizer. I, as a representative of the left, used the fact that he personally stated he engages in womanizing behavior to support my thinking that he is a womanizer. ... Either way the point I was making is ... I feel assured ... You are really struggling here. Your original point was it is the left that deals in feelings instead of facts. You are clearly not of the left yet it is you who is repeatedly stating what you feel. I see little value in a discussion of whether you feel the self reported and documented behavioral facts involving President Trump meets some definition of "womanizer". I am only interested in discussing your claim it is a disease of the left to not think with facts.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 29, 2018 11:20:49 GMT -5
The problem with the left they only want what was already actually proven for accounting from comservatives but yet want their word as taken for granted. Example can't or won't connect the dots on the dossier but will say Trump is a womanizer, Im thinking Dennis Prager is right the left is a disease they think with fealing instead of facts The right is so uneducated and superstitious and usually deficient in hygiene. let's not overlook the FACT that it was Newt Gingrich who stated during the campaign that "feelings are the new facts". it is not team blue that is fumbling around in a parallel universe occupied by Russian hackers and bloggers that don't give a crap about the truth, ednkris. it is team red. or, to put it another way:
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 29, 2018 11:28:24 GMT -5
I think President Trump is a womanizer and provide his own words as evidence. You come back with "bet" and "feel". Wondering if you are feeling any dis-ease. Feeling fine here....no you didn't prove it in his own words. The talking point was about him saying he grabs women by their p&&&y, which he did not say. uh....really?
"I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Grab 'em by the pu&&y. You can do anything." are you denying that our POtuS said this? because if you are denying that, then YOU are denying reality.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 29, 2018 13:55:04 GMT -5
I think President Trump is a womanizer and provide his own words as evidence. You come back with "bet" and "feel". Wondering if you are feeling any dis-ease. Feeling fine here....no you didn't prove it in his own words. The talking point was about him saying he grabs women by their p&&&y, which he did not say. You realize this was caught on tape and was played on all major news outlets? More evidence the right suffers under delusions of illusions and excessively sour flatulence.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 29, 2018 15:53:19 GMT -5
"I feel assured trumps playboy lifestyle does not hinder his ability to lead. " Question, did you feel the same way about Bill Clinton? "The issue I have is most left and liberals , never Trumpers that don't like the fact he is president will hold onto anything and use any trivial issue blow it out of proportion to justify their feelings. It's actually quite sad. " I don't like Trump as a President. I don't need to blow up any issue he's done, nor do most anti-Trump folks. The real shit is quite bad and awful all by itself. I don't need to justify my feelings anymore than most of the right needed to justify their feelings about Hillary by making up or following outrageous conspiracy theories. What's sad to me is seeing Trump as a leader, although I suppose he is in a way if you like bad over-controlling bosses who treat you like shit if you don't constantly suck up to them.
Not potatoe/potato.
I dont know about others, but I feel Bill Clinton is gross. The last interview I saw he basically said that in the good ol' days, raping was cool. I am ready for both Clinton's to disappear. They aren't doing any favors for themselves or anyone else.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 29, 2018 16:15:07 GMT -5
"I feel assured trumps playboy lifestyle does not hinder his ability to lead. " Question, did you feel the same way about Bill Clinton? "The issue I have is most left and liberals , never Trumpers that don't like the fact he is president will hold onto anything and use any trivial issue blow it out of proportion to justify their feelings. It's actually quite sad. " I don't like Trump as a President. I don't need to blow up any issue he's done, nor do most anti-Trump folks. The real shit is quite bad and awful all by itself. I don't need to justify my feelings anymore than most of the right needed to justify their feelings about Hillary by making up or following outrageous conspiracy theories. What's sad to me is seeing Trump as a leader, although I suppose he is in a way if you like bad over-controlling bosses who treat you like shit if you don't constantly suck up to them.
Not potatoe/potato.
I dont know about others, but I feel Bill Clinton is gross. The last interview I saw he basically said that in the good ol' days, raping was cool. I am ready for both Clinton's to disappear. They aren't doing any favors for themselves or anyone else. i never regarded Clinton as liberal in any sense of the term. he was a Southern Democrat. because of that, he had mainstream appeal to people who were moderate on the political spectrum. but i am not moderate, and i don't appreciate mainstream politics. i like my food spicy. i like my politics coherent, focused, and liberal. Hillary was actually a better liberal, except in terms of foreign policy. in terms of foreign policy, she was neo-liberal (what we call neo-conservative in this country), which rankled me. i could never vote for that, and i didn't. but every president in my life time has been neo-liberal- which is why i have not been able to stomach voting for any mainstream candidate in over 20 years.
it would be nice to have someone who actually had either old school Republican values like Ike, or good solid liberal values. my hope is more in the latter than the prior, as the GOP is so far off-axis in terms of their politics these days that they are literally the last party out of the five or so national parties that i could see myself voting for. i will probably be eligible to vote for at least the next two presidential elections, though not from a US address. it would be nice to have a candidate that was not a religious conservative or a neo-liberal, but i doubt that is going to happen.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 29, 2018 17:04:38 GMT -5
I dont know about others, but I feel Bill Clinton is gross. The last interview I saw he basically said that in the good ol' days, raping was cool. I am ready for both Clinton's to disappear. They aren't doing any favors for themselves or anyone else. i never regarded Clinton as liberal in any sense of the term. he was a Southern Democrat. because of that, he had mainstream appeal to people who were moderate on the political spectrum. but i am not moderate, and i don't appreciate mainstream politics. i like my food spicy. i like my politics coherent, focused, and liberal. Hillary was actually a better liberal, except in terms of foreign policy. in terms of foreign policy, she was neo-liberal (what we call neo-conservative in this country), which rankled me. i could never vote for that, and i didn't. but every president in my life time has been neo-liberal- which is why i have not been able to stomach voting for any mainstream candidate in over 20 years.
it would be nice to have someone who actually had either old school Republican values like Ike, or good solid liberal values. my hope is more in the latter than the prior, as the GOP is so far off-axis in terms of their politics these days that they are literally the last party out of the five or so national parties that i could see myself voting for. i will probably be eligible to vote for at least the next two presidential elections, though not from a US address. it would be nice to have a candidate that was not a religious conservative or a neo-liberal, but i doubt that is going to happen.
Let me know who you want to vote for and I'll make it happen. I'm Russian.
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Post by ednkris on Jul 29, 2018 20:25:44 GMT -5
Feeling fine here....no you didn't prove it in his own words. The talking point was about him saying he grabs women by their p&&&y, which he did not say. uh....really?
"I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Grab 'em by the pu&&y. You can do anything." are you denying that our POtuS said this? because if you are denying that, then YOU are denying reality.
That's just it I'm not denying it.. he said he starts kissing them. He said grab'em by the pu $$y. You can do anything. He DID NOT SAY I GRAB EM BY THE pu $$y. There is a huge difference. This is exactly what most on the right are saying you hear what you want the audio is right there.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 29, 2018 21:09:09 GMT -5
uh....really?
"I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Grab 'em by the pu&&y. You can do anything." are you denying that our POtuS said this? because if you are denying that, then YOU are denying reality.
That's just it I'm not denying it.. he said he starts kissing them. He said grab'em by the pu $$y. You can do anything. He DID NOT SAY I GRAB EM BY THE pu $$y. There is a huge difference. This is exactly what most on the right are saying you hear what you want the audio is right there.
let's review AGAIN. here is what he said: "And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Grab 'em by the pu&&y." so, who do you think he is talking about here? someone OTHER than himself? because this followed immediately from him talking about himself. you are really stretching to make this not something he said, imo. why?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 29, 2018 21:10:18 GMT -5
oh, for the record, i never claimed he used the exact words you seem to feel are important. what i claim is that he is talking about himself. disagree?
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Post by ednkris on Jul 30, 2018 2:39:28 GMT -5
oh, for the record, i never claimed he used the exact words you seem to feel are important. what i claim is that he is talking about himself. disagree?
It sounds to me that he is talking about what women would let a rich famous star do and he puts himself into that generalization catagory. I'm not stretching this to make him not accountable, but there is nothing to be acountable for other than he is a bloviator..now if he would have stepped off that bus and tried to maul that woman I would say you are right there are issues.. I will admit Trump is different but that is exactly why he is in office, he is not another politician.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 30, 2018 7:02:48 GMT -5
It seems that he has had more than a couple of willing participants, also a red herring. the issue is the unwilling participants, not the willing ones. also: what about marital fidelity, oc? does that matter?
Only if the instigator is a Dem, and named Clinton.
Apparently, if you nominate the right kind of judge to the SC, Jesus forgives all manner of sexual assault and infidelity, and we should, too.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 30, 2018 7:47:39 GMT -5
also a red herring. the issue is the unwilling participants, not the willing ones. also: what about marital fidelity, oc? does that matter?
Only if the instigator is a Dem, and named Clinton.
Apparently, if you nominate the right kind of judge to the SC, Jesus forgives all manner of sexual assault and infidelity, and we should, too.
If I recall correctly, there were some posters who said they didn't like Hillary Clinton because she didn't divorce her husband after his sexual affairs were exposed. Some said she stayed with him because she wanted to remain politically viable for future election(s). Where are these same posters today who are silent about Melania trump remaining with her adulterous husband? Most likely, Melania has no plans of running for political office so why does she remain with the adulterer? Can it be for the money? That's a pretty disgusting reason to remain with a cheater too. Where is her pride?
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 30, 2018 7:57:08 GMT -5
First Trump exhorted his Trumpettes not to listen to the news, but only listen to him. Then the WH banned a CNN reporter who had the gall to call out questions during a press conference, like 100% of the other reporters in the room. (Apparently, the WH didn't like the kind of questions she was asking).
Now, Trump attacked the media for being 'unpatriotic' for reporting on the inner workings of government.
Reporters are supposed to only write flattering stories about the president, and gloss over any inconvenient news that would make him look bad. Apparently, trying to flimflam the American voters by insisting everything but Fox and Limbaugh are 'fake news' isn't working as well as the president had hoped - now he has to try to bully the media into silence. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-media-very-unpatriotic-for-reporting-on-government-affairs/ar-BBLdFYy
More and more Orwellian every day.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 30, 2018 9:54:50 GMT -5
First Trump exhorted his Trumpettes not to listen to the news, but only listen to him. Then the WH banned a CNN reporter who had the gall to call out questions during a press conference, like 100% of the other reporters in the room. (Apparently, the WH didn't like the kind of questions she was asking).
Now, Trump attacked the media for being 'unpatriotic' for reporting on the inner workings of government.
Reporters are supposed to only write flattering stories about the president, and gloss over any inconvenient news that would make him look bad. Apparently, trying to flimflam the American voters by insisting everything but Fox and Limbaugh are 'fake news' isn't working as well as the president had hoped - now he has to try to bully the media into silence. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-media-very-unpatriotic-for-reporting-on-government-affairs/ar-BBLdFYy
More and more Orwellian every day.
Fox is backing CNN up. Will Trump turn on Fox before the end of his presidency?
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Post by swamp on Jul 30, 2018 10:07:26 GMT -5
First Trump exhorted his Trumpettes not to listen to the news, but only listen to him. Then the WH banned a CNN reporter who had the gall to call out questions during a press conference, like 100% of the other reporters in the room. (Apparently, the WH didn't like the kind of questions she was asking).
Now, Trump attacked the media for being 'unpatriotic' for reporting on the inner workings of government.
Reporters are supposed to only write flattering stories about the president, and gloss over any inconvenient news that would make him look bad. Apparently, trying to flimflam the American voters by insisting everything but Fox and Limbaugh are 'fake news' isn't working as well as the president had hoped - now he has to try to bully the media into silence. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-media-very-unpatriotic-for-reporting-on-government-affairs/ar-BBLdFYy
More and more Orwellian every day.
Fox is backing CNN up. Will Trump turn on Fox before the end of his presidency? As long as Hannity keeps himself affixed to Trumps bulbous ass, he will keep listenting.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 30, 2018 10:39:10 GMT -5
First Trump exhorted his Trumpettes not to listen to the news, but only listen to him. Then the WH banned a CNN reporter who had the gall to call out questions during a press conference, like 100% of the other reporters in the room. (Apparently, the WH didn't like the kind of questions she was asking).
Now, Trump attacked the media for being 'unpatriotic' for reporting on the inner workings of government.
Reporters are supposed to only write flattering stories about the president, and gloss over any inconvenient news that would make him look bad. Apparently, trying to flimflam the American voters by insisting everything but Fox and Limbaugh are 'fake news' isn't working as well as the president had hoped - now he has to try to bully the media into silence. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-calls-media-very-unpatriotic-for-reporting-on-government-affairs/ar-BBLdFYy
More and more Orwellian every day.
Fox is backing CNN up. Will Trump turn on Fox before the end of his presidency? I'm curious about what it would take to make Fox stop toadying for Trump - is there anything so bad that even Fox couldn't cheerlead for it? And if they did turn on Trump, would he survive? The two biggest Trump supporters in my life both exclusively get their news on Fox, and I don't know if they would continue to go with Trump or stay with Fox, should the two diverge.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 30, 2018 11:11:43 GMT -5
oh, for the record, i never claimed he used the exact words you seem to feel are important. what i claim is that he is talking about himself. disagree?
It sounds to me that he is talking about what women would let a rich famous star do and he puts himself into that generalization catagory. I'm not stretching this to make him not accountable, but there is nothing to be acountable for other than he is a bloviator..now if he would have stepped off that bus and tried to maul that woman I would say you are right there are issues.. so, you think it is all talk?
cool. so, do you feel the same way about his campaign promises? if not, why not?
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 30, 2018 15:18:05 GMT -5
So, someone at the WH told FOX that Trump probably won't talk to Mueller.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-unlikely-to-agree-to-mueller-interview-sources-say/ar-BBLhaRy
Why would someone who believes there is NO COLLUSION and THIS IS A WITCH HUNT refuse to sit down and discuss just how innocent they are and how wrong Mueller has everything?
Giuliani is right that he thinks this would be a perjury trap, though. Trump is incapable of telling the truth, even when the truth serves better than a lie.
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Post by swamp on Jul 30, 2018 15:22:58 GMT -5
So, someone at the WH told FOX that Trump probably won't talk to Mueller.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-unlikely-to-agree-to-mueller-interview-sources-say/ar-BBLhaRy
Why would someone who believes there is NO COLLUSION and THIS IS A WITCH HUNT refuse to sit down and discuss just how innocent they are and how wrong Mueller has everything?
Giuliani is right that he thinks this would be a perjury trap, though. Trump is incapable of telling the truth, even when the truth serves better than a lie.
Any lawyer would tell him to shut his pie hole and not talk.
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Post by swamp on Jul 30, 2018 15:24:10 GMT -5
Collusion is not a crime, and neither is killing a person. But money laundering, filing false documents, election law violations, conspiracy, and tax evasion are crimes, just like murder. The intent is what matters.
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Post by ednkris on Jul 30, 2018 16:07:01 GMT -5
It sounds to me that he is talking about what women would let a rich famous star do and he puts himself into that generalization catagory. I'm not stretching this to make him not accountable, but there is nothing to be acountable for other than he is a bloviator..now if he would have stepped off that bus and tried to maul that woman I would say you are right there are issues.. so, you think it is all talk?
cool. so, do you feel the same way about his campaign promises? if not, why not?
Let's see he promised for every new regulation he would roll back 2. I think it's actually around 20 WIN...tax cuts WIN.. jobs jobs jobs equals lowest unemployment WIN.... Keystone pipeline WIN...other wins conservative scouts picks. Moved the embassy to Jerusalem. ...release of American prisoners in North Korea..negotiate Pease talks between north and south Korea this one hopefully. Signs a 700 billion defense bill...rolls back nearly 900 million in Obama Era off shore drilling regulations...Iran deal decertified...signs order for work requirements for welfare programs...individual mandate for Obama repaled too bad he couldn't get it nullified terrible program...his hhs..Defines life begins at conception step in the right direction...it's like waking up and Christmas is everyday
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 30, 2018 17:27:08 GMT -5
Feeling fine here....no you didn't prove it in his own words. The talking point was about him saying he grabs women by their p&&&y, which he did not say. You realize this was caught on tape and was played on all major news outlets? More evidence the right suffers under delusions of illusions and excessively sour flatulence. Trump mocking a disabled reporter was also caught on tape, but the right denies it ever happened.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 30, 2018 18:17:38 GMT -5
so, you think it is all talk?
cool. so, do you feel the same way about his campaign promises? if not, why not?
Let's see he promised for every new regulation he would roll back 2. I think it's actually around 20 WIN...tax cuts WIN.. jobs jobs jobs equals lowest unemployment WIN.... Keystone pipeline WIN...other wins conservative scouts picks. Moved the embassy to Jerusalem. ...release of American prisoners in North Korea..negotiate Pease talks between north and south Korea this one hopefully. Signs a 700 billion defense bill...rolls back nearly 900 million in Obama Era off shore drilling regulations...Iran deal decertified...signs order for work requirements for welfare programs...individual mandate for Obama repaled too bad he couldn't get it nullified terrible program...his hhs..Defines life begins at conception step in the right direction...it's like waking up and Christmas is everyday so, what you are saying is that he told people what he would do, and he did it. he also told people he would grope women, so he did that too. thanks for proving my point. no further questions. #winning
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Post by ednkris on Jul 30, 2018 18:25:39 GMT -5
I watched that video at least six times I don't see where he was mocking him.
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Post by ednkris on Jul 30, 2018 18:27:09 GMT -5
Let's see he promised for every new regulation he would roll back 2. I think it's actually around 20 WIN...tax cuts WIN.. jobs jobs jobs equals lowest unemployment WIN.... Keystone pipeline WIN...other wins conservative scouts picks. Moved the embassy to Jerusalem. ...release of American prisoners in North Korea..negotiate Pease talks between north and south Korea this one hopefully. Signs a 700 billion defense bill...rolls back nearly 900 million in Obama Era off shore drilling regulations...Iran deal decertified...signs order for work requirements for welfare programs...individual mandate for Obama repaled too bad he couldn't get it nullified terrible program...his hhs..Defines life begins at conception step in the right direction...it's like waking up and Christmas is everyday so, what you are saying is that he told people what he would do, and he did it. he also told people he would grope women, so he did that too. thanks for proving my point. no further questions. #winning
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