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Post by dezii on Jan 8, 2018 12:38:50 GMT -5
The notion that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians has been discredited. It has been revealed that the basis for the investigation into Trump-Russia collusion was a FISA warrant obtained under false pretenses using fabricated evidence produced by Fusion GPS, and more specifically Christopher Steele, with money paid to them by the DNC, and with whom the FBI entered into an agreement to pay as well. It has further been revealed, via the text messages between Peter Strzok and his girlfriend, Lisa Page, that there were discussions at the highest level- "in Andy's office" almost certainly refers to Andy McCabe- of an "insurance policy" should Donald Trump win the election. So, I beg to differ with you. Everything pertaining to Trump-Russia collusion and the ancillary unrelated prosecutions are all fruit of the poison dossier. The coup attempt has to be the focus now- what other possible explanation is there for the description of what they were up to as an "insurance policy" in case Trump wins? Actually, you keep saying the dossier was faked, but saying so doesn't make it so.
Mueller so far has shown himself to be a very thorough, dedicated and apolitical professional. Certainly, due to the overheated attention this investigation is receiving, he will be extremely careful to dot his i's and cross his t's and to make sure his findings are based on well documented facts. None of us, not even you, know what he has discovered to this point. It might be that Trump has been laundering money. It might be nothing at all.
I have a feeling, though, if Mueller comes back with documentation that something illegal was taking place, that wouldn't be enough for you. Nothing but complete vindication for Trump and heads on spikes for everyone else would be enough for you, everything else will just be proof of a coup.
u do know that the one your addressing does not like to hear what u are suggesting... "I have a feeling, though, if Mueller comes back with documentation that something illegal was taking place, that wouldn't be enough for you. Nothing but complete vindication for Trump and heads on spikes for everyone else would be enough for you, everything else will just be proof of a coup. " So well put....kudos.......
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 8, 2018 13:18:41 GMT -5
The notion that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians has been discredited. It has been revealed that the basis for the investigation into Trump-Russia collusion was a FISA warrant obtained under false pretenses using fabricated evidence produced by Fusion GPS, and more specifically Christopher Steele, with money paid to them by the DNC, and with whom the FBI entered into an agreement to pay as well. It has further been revealed, via the text messages between Peter Strzok and his girlfriend, Lisa Page, that there were discussions at the highest level- "in Andy's office" almost certainly refers to Andy McCabe- of an "insurance policy" should Donald Trump win the election. So, I beg to differ with you. Everything pertaining to Trump-Russia collusion and the ancillary unrelated prosecutions are all fruit of the poison dossier. The coup attempt has to be the focus now- what other possible explanation is there for the description of what they were up to as an "insurance policy" in case Trump wins? Actually, you keep saying the dossier was faked, but saying so doesn't make it so.
Mueller so far has shown himself to be a very thorough, dedicated and apolitical professional. Certainly, due to the overheated attention this investigation is receiving, he will be extremely careful to dot his i's and cross his t's and to make sure his findings are based on well documented facts. None of us, not even you, know what he has discovered to this point. It might be that Trump has been laundering money. It might be nothing at all.
I have a feeling, though, if Mueller comes back with documentation that something illegal was taking place, that wouldn't be enough for you. Nothing but complete vindication for Trump and heads on spikes for everyone else would be enough for you, everything else will just be proof of a coup. Nothing in the dossier has been verified. The dossier is discredited. I acknowledge that those that prepared the dossier were fed false information which they in turn did not verify, so you may be technically correct, but just to be clear: you don't dispute that the dossier has been discredited? You don't dispute that the fact that two FBI agents suggesting an "insurance policy" should Trump win the election is a very serious matter worthy of follow-up? You don't dispute that we deserve to know whether or not the now completely discredited dossier was presented, unverified, as evidence for a FISA warrant? Now, mind you-- this is all being EXTREMELY generous. I think it's a safe bet to state the dossier is all they've got, that they know it was faked / or at best unverified, but used it anyway to get a FISA warrant for the sole purpose of political spying.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 8, 2018 13:56:41 GMT -5
Actually, you keep saying the dossier was faked, but saying so doesn't make it so.
Mueller so far has shown himself to be a very thorough, dedicated and apolitical professional. Certainly, due to the overheated attention this investigation is receiving, he will be extremely careful to dot his i's and cross his t's and to make sure his findings are based on well documented facts. None of us, not even you, know what he has discovered to this point. It might be that Trump has been laundering money. It might be nothing at all.
I have a feeling, though, if Mueller comes back with documentation that something illegal was taking place, that wouldn't be enough for you. Nothing but complete vindication for Trump and heads on spikes for everyone else would be enough for you, everything else will just be proof of a coup. Nothing in the dossier has been verified. The dossier is discredited. I acknowledge that those that prepared the dossier were fed false information which they in turn did not verify, so you may be technically correct, but just to be clear: you don't dispute that the dossier has been discredited? You don't dispute that the fact that two FBI agents suggesting an "insurance policy" should Trump win the election is a very serious matter worthy of follow-up? You don't dispute that we deserve to know whether or not the now completely discredited dossier was presented, unverified, as evidence for a FISA warrant? Now, mind you-- this is all being EXTREMELY generous. I think it's a safe bet to state the dossier is all they've got, that they know it was faked / or at best unverified, but used it anyway to get a FISA warrant for the sole purpose of political spying. I do disagree with all those things.
We don't know if the dossier has been discredited or credited. We're waiting on Muelller to report his findings. At this pointing, claiming is it 100% fake or 100% real is pointless. It's two mules fighting over a turnip. We'll know when we know.
I think if there are FBI agents talking about an insurance policy, and if someone improperly applied for a FISA warrant, that should be investigated, but I haven't had the time to research either issue, so I'm not making any declarative statements on either - however I do find it interesting that for a while, Trump kept tweeting about 'unmasking' the people who applied for the warrant - but for maybe six months now, he hasn't. Which makes me think he knows who asked for it and why they asked for it, and he doesn't want that public knowledge. Since, as the president, he has the right to see exactly who applied for it, and why, he already knows. Or maybe he hasn't mentioned it again because he's got a short attention span and forgot about it.
I do think you're excessively focused on the dossier. There were indications that Mueller was laundering money for the Russians way back before the election, and Flynn and Kusher and Trump Jr lying about the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians had nothing to do with the dossier.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 8, 2018 14:11:45 GMT -5
"And a Trump assassination is a very real possibility because a good 20% or more of the country is literally insane- and I mean in the clinical sense" -------------------- You have absolutely no idea what "clinically insane" means, do you?
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Post by tallguy on Jan 8, 2018 14:17:36 GMT -5
Trump's comments:
No, dude, this country looks foolish BECAUSE you are here.
Yes, let's be open and get it over with. Let's have your legal team stop trying to avoid having you testify in person. Nobody is interested in having written answers which come from your attorneys. Testify in person under oath like you said you were willing to do, and then...just be you. Mueller and his team will take it from there. But please, just be you. On the stand, under oath.
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Post by tallguy on Jan 8, 2018 14:19:13 GMT -5
"And a Trump assassination is a very real possibility because a good 20% or more of the country is literally insane- and I mean in the clinical sense" --------------------
You have absolutely no idea what "clinically insane" means, do you? Obviously not, but I do feel compelled to point out that 20% of the country did vote for Trump. Coincidence?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 14:28:05 GMT -5
I'm not convinced that the dossier or at least parts of the dossier are unverified or discredited. I am convinced that Strzok, Ohr, Comey, insurance policy, and the delay in notifying congress about these plays and players in both the Hilary email investigation and the Mueller investigation make both investigations look corrupted. I think Mueller is screwed anyway it goes at this point.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 8, 2018 15:44:47 GMT -5
... And a Trump assassination is a very real possibility ... And that's the threat the country and our President face-- and I believe the collective mental breakdown of the left was a carefully engineered scenario created by psychiatrists and psychologists in conjunction with political strategists on the left for precisely that purpose. I don't view people as quite the pawns that this idea suggests to be the case.
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Post by Opti on Jan 8, 2018 16:08:27 GMT -5
Nothing has been discredited at this time no matter how you try and spin it. Aren't you starting to wonder what the heck must be there for all this amazingly trivial stupid spin to be pushed so relentlessly?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 9, 2018 0:10:41 GMT -5
Two ad hominem posts removed by me. Please leave posters' families out of political discussions, even speculative ones.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 9, 2018 11:18:47 GMT -5
The BIG UGLY begins... theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/09/report-chairman-devin-nunes-has-received-fbi-and-doj-fisa-application-and-steele-dossier-documents/Chairman Nunez Has Received FBI & DOJ FISA application and Steele Dossier DocumentsFor those following the story, this is a significant development…. According to information provided to The Daily Caller, today Chairman Devin Nunes received the FISA Application and Steele Dossier documentation from Asst. AG Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray. This includes the critical FD-302’s and FD-1023’s that relate to interviews with Christopher Steele and his Russian Dossier. ... (Daily Caller) House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence members gained access to all Department of Justice and FBI documents it possesses on the Trump dossier, The Daily Caller News Foundation has learned. The committee was able to review Friday all FBI and DOJ documents on the Trump dossier, former MI-6 British agent Christopher Steele who authored the dossier, and Fusion GPS, the political opposition firm that hired Steele. DOJ also provided Obama administration applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which could approve the surveillance of the Trump transition team, according to a source with direct knowledge of the case. (read more)
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 9, 2018 11:19:31 GMT -5
RESOURCES: – The BIG UGLY - Click the above story link and scroll down for links to each of these resources:
Congress Begins indicating a Leak Investigation – HERE DOJ Deputy Attorney Bruce Ohr Gets another Demotion HERE How the DOJ and FBI were “Weaponized” – HERE Grassley and Graham call FBI/DOJ Bluff HERE NSA Director Mike Rogers and the FISA Scheme Explained HERE The Russian Conspiracy was “The Insurance Policy” HERE Fusion GPS runs for Cover HERE Lindsey Graham discussed the Steele Dossier and FISA Warrant HERE The Scale of the DOJ and FBI Corruption – Outlined HERE The DOJ FISA Corruption Outlined HERE Devin Nunes subpoenas McCain staffer David Kramer HERE New context to understand Evelyn Farkas Comments – Discussed HERE How will media respond? – Discussed HERE A Counterintelligence Timeline – WH and FBI – HERE FBI Asst. Deputy, Andrew “Andy” McCabe announces intent to retire – HERE FBI Legal Counsel, James Baker, identified as leaker to media – HERE FBI Legal Counsel, James Baker, removed from responsibility – HERE Steele Dossier Origination Now Directly Leads To Obama White House – HERE FBI Asst. Director “Andy” McCabe has convenient memory lapse – HERE Rand Paul Discusses Evidence of Conspiracy HERE Summary of Scheme and Letter from Trump Transition Team HERE Congress Confirms the Investigative Approach for The Big Ugly HERE Understanding the Background Motives of Inspector General Horowitz HERE Democrats Realize the BIG Ugly Is Coming HERE Understanding the Important Role of Bill Priestap HERE Inspector General Horowitz Explains how he caught Peter Strzok and Lisa Page HERE Understanding the Pattern of Information Releases HERE Jim Jordan Questions Rod Rosenstein HERE More releases of information about Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe HERE Why Was FISA Court Judge Recused – Discussion HERE Jaw-Dropping Info. on Demoted DOJ Deputy Bruce G Ohr’s wife, Nellie H. Ohr HERE Discovery – Nellie Ohr worked for Fusion GPS on Trump Opposition Research Project Intel Chairman Devin Nunes Outlines FBI FISA Warrant Abuse HERE The FBI/DOJ Leak Hunting Task Force Everyone Forgot – Outlined HERE Jim Jordan Discusses the Fraud Behind the FBI FISA Warrant HERE Black Hat Hunting II – Becomes Obvious – False Media Leaks To Catch Leakers HERE The BIG UGLY – The Big Picture and What it Means HERE Judge Rudolph Contreras Recuses Himself – FISA Discoveries HERE “The Predicate” – The Importance of the Origin of The FISA WARRANTS HERE Black Hat Hunting I – First Appearance of Coordinated Plan HERE Deputy Head of Counterintelligence FBI Agent Peter Strzok – Outlined HERE Discovering Initial Seeds of DOJ-OIG Investigative Plan – Outlined HERE President Trump Reacts to Evidence of FBI Mgmt Bias Against Him HERE Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes Threatens FBI with Contempt HERE First IG Release of FBI Team Bias on Robert Mueller Squad HERE
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 9, 2018 11:22:18 GMT -5
At last! We're within 48 hours of knowing whether we should tip our hats to your prescience or point and laugh at you.
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Post by dezii on Jan 9, 2018 13:42:31 GMT -5
At last! We're within 48 hours of knowing whether we should tip our hats to your prescience or point and laugh at you. "or point and laugh at you. " my vote...
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Post by dezii on Jan 9, 2018 13:44:04 GMT -5
RESOURCES: – The BIG UGLY - Click the above story link and scroll down for links to each of these resources: Congress Begins indicating a Leak Investigation – HERE DOJ Deputy Attorney Bruce Ohr Gets another Demotion HERE How the DOJ and FBI were “Weaponized” – HERE Grassley and Graham call FBI/DOJ Bluff HERE NSA Director Mike Rogers and the FISA Scheme Explained HERE The Russian Conspiracy was “The Insurance Policy” HERE Fusion GPS runs for Cover HERE Lindsey Graham discussed the Steele Dossier and FISA Warrant HERE The Scale of the DOJ and FBI Corruption – Outlined HERE The DOJ FISA Corruption Outlined HERE Devin Nunes subpoenas McCain staffer David Kramer HERE New context to understand Evelyn Farkas Comments – Discussed HERE How will media respond? – Discussed HERE A Counterintelligence Timeline – WH and FBI – HERE FBI Asst. Deputy, Andrew “Andy” McCabe announces intent to retire – HERE FBI Legal Counsel, James Baker, identified as leaker to media – HERE FBI Legal Counsel, James Baker, removed from responsibility – HERE Steele Dossier Origination Now Directly Leads To Obama White House – HERE FBI Asst. Director “Andy” McCabe has convenient memory lapse – HERE Rand Paul Discusses Evidence of Conspiracy HERE Summary of Scheme and Letter from Trump Transition Team HERE Congress Confirms the Investigative Approach for The Big Ugly HERE Understanding the Background Motives of Inspector General Horowitz HERE Democrats Realize the BIG Ugly Is Coming HERE Understanding the Important Role of Bill Priestap HERE Inspector General Horowitz Explains how he caught Peter Strzok and Lisa Page HERE Understanding the Pattern of Information Releases HERE Jim Jordan Questions Rod Rosenstein HERE More releases of information about Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe HERE Why Was FISA Court Judge Recused – Discussion HERE Jaw-Dropping Info. on Demoted DOJ Deputy Bruce G Ohr’s wife, Nellie H. Ohr HERE Discovery – Nellie Ohr worked for Fusion GPS on Trump Opposition Research Project Intel Chairman Devin Nunes Outlines FBI FISA Warrant Abuse HERE The FBI/DOJ Leak Hunting Task Force Everyone Forgot – Outlined HERE Jim Jordan Discusses the Fraud Behind the FBI FISA Warrant HERE Black Hat Hunting II – Becomes Obvious – False Media Leaks To Catch Leakers HERE The BIG UGLY – The Big Picture and What it Means HERE Judge Rudolph Contreras Recuses Himself – FISA Discoveries HERE “The Predicate” – The Importance of the Origin of The FISA WARRANTS HERE Black Hat Hunting I – First Appearance of Coordinated Plan HERE Deputy Head of Counterintelligence FBI Agent Peter Strzok – Outlined HERE Discovering Initial Seeds of DOJ-OIG Investigative Plan – Outlined HERE President Trump Reacts to Evidence of FBI Mgmt Bias Against Him HERE Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes Threatens FBI with Contempt HERE First IG Release of FBI Team Bias on Robert Mueller Squad HERE and this is a couple hours of whatever a week... ...such horse sh*t. Me thinks a bit of paranoia is more like it...a bit to many evil conspiracies flouting around for me...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 11, 2018 18:16:31 GMT -5
RESOURCES: – The BIG UGLY - Click the above story link and scroll down for links to each of these resources: Congress Begins indicating a Leak Investigation – HERE DOJ Deputy Attorney Bruce Ohr Gets another Demotion HERE How the DOJ and FBI were “Weaponized” – HERE Grassley and Graham call FBI/DOJ Bluff HERE NSA Director Mike Rogers and the FISA Scheme Explained HERE The Russian Conspiracy was “The Insurance Policy” HERE Fusion GPS runs for Cover HERE Lindsey Graham discussed the Steele Dossier and FISA Warrant HERE The Scale of the DOJ and FBI Corruption – Outlined HERE The DOJ FISA Corruption Outlined HERE Devin Nunes subpoenas McCain staffer David Kramer HERE New context to understand Evelyn Farkas Comments – Discussed HERE How will media respond? – Discussed HERE A Counterintelligence Timeline – WH and FBI – HERE FBI Asst. Deputy, Andrew “Andy” McCabe announces intent to retire – HERE FBI Legal Counsel, James Baker, identified as leaker to media – HERE FBI Legal Counsel, James Baker, removed from responsibility – HERE Steele Dossier Origination Now Directly Leads To Obama White House – HERE FBI Asst. Director “Andy” McCabe has convenient memory lapse – HERE Rand Paul Discusses Evidence of Conspiracy HERE Summary of Scheme and Letter from Trump Transition Team HERE Congress Confirms the Investigative Approach for The Big Ugly HERE Understanding the Background Motives of Inspector General Horowitz HERE Democrats Realize the BIG Ugly Is Coming HERE Understanding the Important Role of Bill Priestap HERE Inspector General Horowitz Explains how he caught Peter Strzok and Lisa Page HERE Understanding the Pattern of Information Releases HERE Jim Jordan Questions Rod Rosenstein HERE More releases of information about Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe HERE Why Was FISA Court Judge Recused – Discussion HERE Jaw-Dropping Info. on Demoted DOJ Deputy Bruce G Ohr’s wife, Nellie H. Ohr HERE Discovery – Nellie Ohr worked for Fusion GPS on Trump Opposition Research Project Intel Chairman Devin Nunes Outlines FBI FISA Warrant Abuse HERE The FBI/DOJ Leak Hunting Task Force Everyone Forgot – Outlined HERE Jim Jordan Discusses the Fraud Behind the FBI FISA Warrant HERE Black Hat Hunting II – Becomes Obvious – False Media Leaks To Catch Leakers HERE The BIG UGLY – The Big Picture and What it Means HERE Judge Rudolph Contreras Recuses Himself – FISA Discoveries HERE “The Predicate” – The Importance of the Origin of The FISA WARRANTS HERE Black Hat Hunting I – First Appearance of Coordinated Plan HERE Deputy Head of Counterintelligence FBI Agent Peter Strzok – Outlined HERE Discovering Initial Seeds of DOJ-OIG Investigative Plan – Outlined HERE President Trump Reacts to Evidence of FBI Mgmt Bias Against Him HERE Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes Threatens FBI with Contempt HERE First IG Release of FBI Team Bias on Robert Mueller Squad HERE and this is a couple hours of whatever a week... ...such horse sh*t. Me thinks a bit of paranoia is more like it...a bit to many evil conspiracies flouting around for me... Not if you've been following along. Alternatively, you can just follow my posts and accept what I say making sure not to doubt me. Ever.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 11, 2018 18:17:33 GMT -5
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 11, 2018 19:02:01 GMT -5
Well... congrats Paul. You're one major step closer to being proven right on this one. As for "not doubting you ever", if you make it as far as "not doubting you always" with your critics, I'd chalk it up as a win.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 11, 2018 19:03:26 GMT -5
Multiple sources told this reporter that the dossier was used along with other evidence to obtain the warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as FISC. (from the link)
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 11, 2018 19:26:37 GMT -5
Well... congrats Paul. You're one major step closer to being proven right on this one. As for "not doubting you ever", if you make it as far as "not doubting you always" with your critics, I'd chalk it up as a win. I really only say that in jest now. I can actually laugh at my self.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 11, 2018 19:35:31 GMT -5
The Treehouse people are saying there's a STUNNING development that will connect all the big dots. That is NOT good for Democrats. It's REALLY not good for Obama and Hillary. theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/11/stunning-development-unfolding/CTH is working on attempts to confirm an absolutely stunning development in the ongoing saga of how the DOJ/FBI surveillance operation against Donald Trump was constructed in 2016 using illegal FISA “About Searches”…. The President has been noticeably more bold and outspoken about the issue. He knows more than any of us. I think he's known for a long time the full extent of what's happened- I think he has it well documented- and I think he knows the investigation is wrapping up, Mueller will be more worried about himself than anyone else, and the American public will soon be aware of the worst abuse of power / biggest scandal in our history.
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Post by dondub on Jan 11, 2018 19:51:23 GMT -5
It's got a long way to go before it exceeds Iran~Contra and all that really entailed.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 11, 2018 20:25:25 GMT -5
It's got a long way to go before it exceeds Iran~Contra and all that really entailed. Iran - Contra? Lol. As if.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 11, 2018 20:30:46 GMT -5
I mentioned it on the other thread but I'll throw it in here. Mary Jacoby, Glenn Simpson's wife, has known Hillary Clinton since her Arkansas days. Jacoby clerked in her law firm, worked on Wesley Clark's campaign, and her father's firm played a critical role in Clinton's second governor campaign. Very interesting- so, someone that goes back to Whitewater, the Rose Law Firm, and as long as we're talking Iran-Contra...the airport at Mena, AR and the first Seth Rich-- Barry Seal. If you're in love with conspiracy theories- you don't want to poke around too much in Iran Contra-- because even that scandal turns up Clinton's fingerprints.
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Post by dondub on Jan 11, 2018 20:52:15 GMT -5
Yes, Iran~Contra and I don't give a shit if Clinton's fingerprints are all over that. And no, Iran~Contra was not a conspiracy theory. It was a conspiracy fact. How many Reaganauts were convicted?
Did Seth Rich fly coke for the CIA?
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 12, 2018 8:57:45 GMT -5
I've never heard this one. How was Bill Clinton involved with Iran Contra?
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Post by Opti on Jan 12, 2018 9:07:19 GMT -5
The Treehouse people are saying there's a STUNNING development that will connect all the big dots. That is NOT good for Democrats. It's REALLY not good for Obama and Hillary. theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/11/stunning-development-unfolding/CTH is working on attempts to confirm an absolutely stunning development in the ongoing saga of how the DOJ/FBI surveillance operation against Donald Trump was constructed in 2016 using illegal FISA “About Searches”…. The President has been noticeably more bold and outspoken about the issue. He knows more than any of us. I think he's known for a long time the full extent of what's happened- I think he has it well documented- and I think he knows the investigation is wrapping up, Mueller will be more worried about himself than anyone else, and the American public will soon be aware of the worst abuse of power / biggest scandal in our history.
I do wonder how you will react if it happens Trump was knowingly involved with Russian money laundering.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2018 9:11:24 GMT -5
The Treehouse people are saying there's a STUNNING development that will connect all the big dots. That is NOT good for Democrats. It's REALLY not good for Obama and Hillary. theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/11/stunning-development-unfolding/CTH is working on attempts to confirm an absolutely stunning development in the ongoing saga of how the DOJ/FBI surveillance operation against Donald Trump was constructed in 2016 using illegal FISA “About Searches”…. The President has been noticeably more bold and outspoken about the issue. He knows more than any of us. I think he's known for a long time the full extent of what's happened- I think he has it well documented- and I think he knows the investigation is wrapping up, Mueller will be more worried about himself than anyone else, and the American public will soon be aware of the worst abuse of power / biggest scandal in our history.
I do wonder how you will react if it happens Trump was knowingly involved with Russian money laundering.
It might go something like this: "I supported Ted Cruz. Never liked trump. Crooked donald."
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 12, 2018 9:23:14 GMT -5
I do wonder how you will react if it happens Trump was knowingly involved with Russian money laundering.
It might go something like this: "I supported Ted Cruz. Never liked trump. Crooked donald." Trump was framed....by Obama.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 12, 2018 9:57:47 GMT -5
It might go something like this: "I supported Ted Cruz. Never liked trump. Crooked donald." Trump was framed....by Obama. The mastermind of the Watergate hotel break in was Obama's momma.
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