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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2018 15:55:38 GMT -5
The Treehouse people are saying there's a STUNNING development that will connect all the big dots. That is NOT good for Democrats. It's REALLY not good for Obama and Hillary. theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/11/stunning-development-unfolding/CTH is working on attempts to confirm an absolutely stunning development in the ongoing saga of how the DOJ/FBI surveillance operation against Donald Trump was constructed in 2016 using illegal FISA “About Searches”…. The President has been noticeably more bold and outspoken about the issue. He knows more than any of us. I think he's known for a long time the full extent of what's happened- I think he has it well documented- and I think he knows the investigation is wrapping up, Mueller will be more worried about himself than anyone else, and the American public will soon be aware of the worst abuse of power / biggest scandal in our history.
I do wonder how you will react if it happens Trump was knowingly involved with Russian money laundering.
There is ZERO (0) chance of that. Like none. That is wishful thinking on the part of Democrats who have been led down the primrose path being fed a steady diet of Trump will be arrested, Trump will be impeached, Trump will resign-- nope. Trump will leave office voluntarily. On January 21, 2021. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the Golden Age of Trump.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2018 15:58:03 GMT -5
Yes, Iran~Contra and I don't give a shit if Clinton's fingerprints are all over that. And no, Iran~Contra was not a conspiracy theory. It was a conspiracy fact. How many Reaganauts were convicted?
Did Seth Rich fly coke for the CIA? So, you believe that the governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton, was involved with the Bush crime family flying drugs, weapons, and cash in and out of the airport at Mena? Interesting. Because that's the full Iran-Contra conspiracy. And by the way- Iran gave us a shitload of money for weapons that were never delivered right? Who was it that returned the money- in cash?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2018 15:58:43 GMT -5
Anytime the US fucks over a country like Iran- I'm for it.
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2018 16:16:17 GMT -5
So, you believe that the governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton, was involved with the Bush crime family flying drugs, weapons, and cash in and out of the airport at Mena? Interesting. Because that's the full Iran-Contra conspiracy.
You are the one that so clearly said Clinton's fingerprints were all over it. I simply replied that "I don't a shit if they are." And what is the "Bush Crime Family"? You are really up on your personal conspiracy beliefs. I prefer the conspiracy facts myself. Such as all the convictions in Reagan's Criminal Cabal due to this greatest political scandal in the history of the known universe.
And I guess the fact you like fucking countries over means you support our coup of Mossedah which led to the Shah and Savak, the Iranian Revolution, etc. You forgot to factor in that chickens came home to roost, all based on our overthrow of a democratically elected leader. O.I.L.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2018 16:20:19 GMT -5
Anytime the US fucks over a country like Iran- I'm for it. Terrorism is the STD we catch when we do it. Actions have consequences.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 12, 2018 18:53:11 GMT -5
I've never heard this one. How was Bill Clinton involved with Iran Contra? Can someone fill me in on this story? How is Clinton involved?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 19:09:25 GMT -5
So after the bleepstorm and pornstorm today I decided to poke around the internet to see what we are being diverted from. The OIG turned over a chunk of documents to the House Committee, Andrew Weissmann was feeding the press info on Manafort, or vice versa, and the FBI reported Weissman for handling it incorrectly. And I mentioned Nunes earlier. lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 19:29:42 GMT -5
So after the bleepstorm and pornstorm today I decided to poke around the internet to see what we are being diverted from. The OIG turned over a chunk of documents to the House Committee, Andrew Weissmann was feeding the press info on Manafort, or vice versa, and the FBI reported Weissman for handling it incorrectly. And I mentioned Nunes earlier. Any source material?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 12, 2018 20:20:06 GMT -5
So after the bleepstorm and pornstorm today I decided to poke around the internet to see what we are being diverted from. The OIG turned over a chunk of documents to the House Committee, Andrew Weissmann was feeding the press info on Manafort, or vice versa, and the FBI reported Weissman for handling it incorrectly. And I mentioned Nunes earlier. A lot going on in Saudi Arabia, Iran, and South Korea too. Canadian "International News": "That was Rev. Jesse Jackson speaking on how US President Donald Trump is a race baiter. In other news, we interview the man seen riding down this California mudslide in his car."(The above is not satire.) I can't imagine the US MSM is much better.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 12, 2018 20:29:27 GMT -5
Jesse Jackson pointing at someone else being a race bater? That’s ironic.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 13, 2018 1:12:20 GMT -5
Wait...now the Dailykos is real news instead of fake news?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 18, 2018 23:16:47 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 18, 2018 23:20:49 GMT -5
It's all over.
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Post by dezii on Jan 18, 2018 23:50:20 GMT -5
Ahhh see more of "Fox"........[sigh] .............................
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Post by dezii on Jan 18, 2018 23:51:50 GMT -5
Ho Hum.......heads will roll.....LOL ..............................
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2018 0:42:54 GMT -5
... This was a coup attempt. No exaggeration. No hyperbole. ... If it was a coup attempt, it was
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 19, 2018 8:11:35 GMT -5
One of the reps who read the report says he expects Rosenstein to be fired and people to go to jail. I haven't heard any Democrat reps talking about it yet, or seen any articles on it outside of Fox news and conservative newspapers. I can't find anything on it but Fox reports either.
They voted to release it to the House members, I wish they would make it public so we could read for ourselves to see if it's creative hyperbole on the part of Nunes or if there's something there. I'd rather not hear second hand and only from the GOP that it's outrageous.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 19, 2018 10:19:28 GMT -5
"Heads will roll"
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 19, 2018 10:21:28 GMT -5
I can't follow the connection between the FISA warrant causing the total collapse of the Mueller investigation. Manafort was under investigation and a FISA warrant since 2014 due to his work with Ukraine. FISA warrants have to be renewed every 90 days, and this one was dropped sometime prior to Manafort joining the Trump campaign in 2016. This was when the infamous Trump Tower meeting took place. If the FBI was concerned that Russia was grooming Manafort, someone they knew had murky financial ties to Russia, to be their link with Trump, and if they heard from a source within the White House that something like that was occurring, that seems like plenty of evidence to renew the Manafort FISA warrant, without anything being mentioned about the dossier at all. The dossier seems only to be one potential piece (one that needed to be researched) but not the lynchpin to the whole investigation, without which everything collapses, which is what the far right websites seems to be saying. Or am I missing something? www.justsecurity.org/45255/fisa-warrants-paul-manafort-muellers-investigation/
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2018 10:43:46 GMT -5
One of the reps who read the report says he expects Rosenstein to be fired ... Introduce a Bill of Impeachment.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 19, 2018 11:14:45 GMT -5
I have to admit, I don't see where these revelations about the "big ugly" (as the CTH puts it) implicate Mr. Mueller.
How does he fit into the picture?
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2018 11:45:15 GMT -5
I don't see the connection. I think they are voting on impeachment again today. If the House has evidence that the public trust was violated by any "civil Officers of the United States", it is in their power to impeach.
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Post by Opti on Jan 19, 2018 11:45:35 GMT -5
I don't think anyone really knows. OTOH he's been deeply involved in some sketchy stuff, like Libya. Sidney Blumenthal popped up again. He had a really biased team. OTOH it's not clear what he's doing. Sharyl Atkisson, a reporter who traveled with Hillary Clinton, and who was wiretapped by the Obama administration, says that the Awan brothers, Clinton, the dossier, etc. are all connected stories. At least according to her sources in the government. She has long running lawsuit against the DOJ I believe in connection to the electronic eavesdropping. There had been a lot of movement recently on those fronts. Oh, and that activist who offered a reward for info on the Seth Rich case was attacked in his driveway by a masked man yesterday. So, it's a lot of reading because some of this stuff goes back for years. Which likely had nothing o do with Seth Rich but more recent things he was working on. Its also a very odd attack. One that it was minor enough as attacks go that perhaps this guy even had it staged so he could be in the news again. Really weird that someone would be able to time stopping by in an SUV at your home when you returned with groceries. Why not attack at the grocery store? Why spray something like pepper spray, hit him in the head and speed away? For what purpose except fear or more likely IMO a staged drama to get him in the news. dailycaller.com/2018/01/18/lobbyist-who-offered-seth-rich-reward-attacked/
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 19, 2018 11:48:38 GMT -5
OK, thanks. I feel like I'm waltzing through John Nash's brainpan.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 19, 2018 11:50:16 GMT -5
I have to admit, I don't see where these revelations about the "big ugly" (as the CTH puts it) implicate Mr. Mueller. How does he fit into the picture? the only thing I can tell is one of the agents working for him emailed his girlfriend negative comments about Trump, which some people want to believe means the whole investigation is tainted.
Mueller moved that agent off the investigation as soon as the emails came to light - and the emails themselves were not work related, but private comments to his GF. I would assume every FBI agent working on the case has some personal political views but I don't think you should discard any pro-dem agents and require that only agents devoted to Trump get to do the investigation... the agents work as a group, not as lone actors, and I'm sure the FBI has some pretty strong rules about remaining non partisan.
There are some talking heads who believe everyone who works for the government must swear fealty to Trump. I guess at least until there is a different POTW. That's not how government works in a democracy, though.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 19, 2018 11:52:39 GMT -5
OK, thanks. I feel like I'm waltzing through John Nash's brainpan. It would be nice if we could get some truly nonpartisan breakdowns of what is actually happening.
The conspiracy whack jobs are in overdrive and the spin masters on both sides are making me dizzy.
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Post by Opti on Jan 19, 2018 11:52:46 GMT -5
Manafort was interviewed in 2014 by the FBI and told them about all his dealings with the Ukraine. According to him they used some of that information in the dossier, which would mean the FBI was giving opposition research to a candidate. It would also mean that the charges against Flynn and Manafort would have to be dropped. It's a big mess and this is likely only the beginning. You have to read all the non mainstream stories on this to see how it comes together. How many dossiers are you talking about? Steele is not the FBI so shouldn't have been able to use that info, so what dossier are you talking about now? I'll be honest, I think much of what you are reading is funded by the known spin machine on the right. I'm not going into the RW conspiracy rabbitholes. I'll wait for the official version TY.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2018 11:55:09 GMT -5
Burkman ... said the attack “seemed professional,” Based on ... what? ... his vast experience in the field of such attacks?
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Post by Opti on Jan 19, 2018 11:56:09 GMT -5
OK, thanks. I feel like I'm waltzing through John Nash's brainpan. It would be nice if we could get some truly nonpartisan breakdowns of what is actually happening.
The conspiracy whack jobs are in overdrive and the spin masters on both sides are making me dizzy.
Agreed. I do not try to follow it much, because my guess is most is noise, i.e. wishful mis-information and very little of it is signal, i.e. actual verifiable truth.
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