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Post by dezii on Jan 5, 2018 15:50:47 GMT -5
I want the leadership of the Democratic Party put before military tribunals. I want the masterminds of the party's subversive activities executed by firing squad, and their senior co-conspirators put in Gitmo until they die. When I titled this thread 'treason' it wasn't hyperbole to me. I want the unAmerican, subversive, saboteurs of our country in BOTH parties-- but especially in the global communist Trojan Horse Democratic Party-- to finally answer for their treachery. I want arrogant, subervise people like John Brennan and James Clapper to die. I don't want anyone to take the law into their own hands-- I want them exposed, I want them tried, and I want the end of this to be the death of traitors by the sword of government. I hope this answers your question. Shades of Nazi Germany. Scary. Naaaaa Bean.......just more of the same... "this one to die, that one to die, these kids to die...everyone over a certain age to die....every one under a certain age to...you got it.....die. All pets....yup...to die... Definitly Dezii........................................to die.......... oh well..[sigh]..... .......................................
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Post by MN-Investor on Jan 5, 2018 15:55:48 GMT -5
I'm not reading through all these pages so this may have been addressed - We are currently not at war with any other country. Because of that, no one can be convicted of treason.
Treason is narrowly defined in the Constitution. It only applies during openly or declared war. Five Myths About Treason
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 5, 2018 16:03:15 GMT -5
I want the leadership of the Democratic Party put before military tribunals. I want the masterminds of the party's subversive activities executed by firing squad, and their senior co-conspirators put in Gitmo until they die. When I titled this thread 'treason' it wasn't hyperbole to me. I want the unAmerican, subversive, saboteurs of our country in BOTH parties-- but especially in the global communist Trojan Horse Democratic Party-- to finally answer for their treachery. I want arrogant, subervise people like John Brennan and James Clapper to die. I don't want anyone to take the law into their own hands-- I want them exposed, I want them tried, and I want the end of this to be the death of traitors by the sword of government. I hope this answers your question. Shades of Nazi Germany. Scary. Austrians were pretty bad too. They gleefully rounded up the Jews and sent them to their deaths.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 5, 2018 16:11:18 GMT -5
This makes as much sense to me as trying to jail Sarah Palin because she used some campaign funds to buy clothes for her family. Yeah that was probably not legal, but what would be the point of it now?
Unless you just hate Sarah Palin?
Hillary Clinton didn't "mishandle" classified information. She was engaged in selling influence and wanted to hide her illegal activities from the government / public eye. As such, she used a private email server in contravention of the law. It's the activities she was hiding- like Bill being paid a half million dollars by agents of the Russian government in exchange for Hillary using her influence to facilitate the sale of 20% of the total US uranium production to the Russians. Have you read "Clinton Cash" or seen the documentary? It's one thing to not believe the information, dismiss it, or try to refute it- but to equate it with the ridiculous allegations against Sarah Palin as if that's something you actually think? I don't buy it. I don't think you're this ignorant. The alternative, however, is similarly unflattering. You mean the documentary Clinton Cash, based on the book Clinton Cash, written by a Breitbart writer, paid for by Bannon's sugar daddy Robert Mercier? I haven't had the pleasure.
Aside from a ton of other people who have debunked the whole UraniumOne faux scandal, your buddy Shep Smith also did a good job debunking it on Fox - thehill.com/homenews/media/360371-fox-news-shepard-smith-hits-trump-for-inaccurate-claims-on-uranium-one-deal
Another sandcastle fake scandal along the lines of the whole Pizza gate-child molester thing.
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Post by mroped on Jan 5, 2018 16:13:11 GMT -5
In all honesty I didn’t read but one or two posts at the beginning of this thread. The frequency with which the OP replies/comments not to mention that there are so many other discussion started under the same handle makes me wonder if the OP is in all reality an individual or is just another account set up by our friends in the former CCCP. Now for the test, can you prove that you are not a robot? Can you check the images that have the “This thread is crazy!” sign?
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 5, 2018 16:14:24 GMT -5
Ok I have one simple question.
Hillary did not win the election. She's now retired. She's no longer a central player in the Dem party.
Say you get your ultimate wet dream and she gets convicted of something and has to go to a clubfed for a while. What is the negative impact on the democratic party should it be determined that she sent some classified emails to one of her aids using a private server, which is apparently what they think she'll go down for?
Now compare and contrast that to the negative impact of having a sitting GOP POTUS convicted of money laundering for Russian mobsters and failing to disclose that, leaving him an easy target for Russian blackmail - which seems to be what Mueller is investigating (and, despite what your favorite conspiracy theory website says, no one knows if he is confirming or refuting that charge, at this point).
Now explain to me why the GOP is so laser focused on trying to jail Hillary? What's the political upside for them, besides the fact that so many far right conservatives seem to hate her - which just makes them seem to be petty misogynists? Especially after so many of them, instead of wanting to jail Roy Moore for his many sexual infractions against minors, wanted to elect the man to the senate? Do you see how this casts the GOP in a negative light?
I want the leadership of the Democratic Party put before military tribunals. I want the masterminds of the party's subversive activities executed by firing squad, and their senior co-conspirators put in Gitmo until they die. When I titled this thread 'treason' it wasn't hyperbole to me. I want the unAmerican, subversive, saboteurs of our country in BOTH parties-- but especially in the global communist Trojan Horse Democratic Party-- to finally answer for their treachery. I want arrogant, subervise people like John Brennan and James Clapper to die. I don't want anyone to take the law into their own hands-- I want them exposed, I want them tried, and I want the end of this to be the death of traitors by the sword of government. I hope this answers your question. Good luck storming the Bastille.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 5, 2018 16:30:46 GMT -5
Ok I have one simple question.
Hillary did not win the election. She's now retired. She's no longer a central player in the Dem party.
Say you get your ultimate wet dream and she gets convicted of something and has to go to a clubfed for a while. What is the negative impact on the democratic party should it be determined that she sent some classified emails to one of her aids using a private server, which is apparently what they think she'll go down for?
Now compare and contrast that to the negative impact of having a sitting GOP POTUS convicted of money laundering for Russian mobsters and failing to disclose that, leaving him an easy target for Russian blackmail - which seems to be what Mueller is investigating (and, despite what your favorite conspiracy theory website says, no one knows if he is confirming or refuting that charge, at this point).
Now explain to me why the GOP is so laser focused on trying to jail Hillary? What's the political upside for them, besides the fact that so many far right conservatives seem to hate her - which just makes them seem to be petty misogynists? Especially after so many of them, instead of wanting to jail Roy Moore for his many sexual infractions against minors, wanted to elect the man to the senate? Do you see how this casts the GOP in a negative light?
I want the leadership of the Democratic Party put before military tribunals. I want the masterminds of the party's subversive activities executed by firing squad, and their senior co-conspirators put in Gitmo until they die. When I titled this thread 'treason' it wasn't hyperbole to me. I want the unAmerican, subversive, saboteurs of our country in BOTH parties-- but especially in the global communist Trojan Horse Democratic Party-- to finally answer for their treachery. I want arrogant, subervise people like John Brennan and James Clapper to die. I don't want anyone to take the law into their own hands-- I want them exposed, I want them tried, and I want the end of this to be the death of traitors by the sword of government. I hope this answers your question. Shades of North Korean dictatorship and McCarthyism all rolled into one. Nicely done!
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Post by dezii on Jan 5, 2018 16:42:51 GMT -5
I want the leadership of the Democratic Party put before military tribunals. I want the masterminds of the party's subversive activities executed by firing squad, and their senior co-conspirators put in Gitmo until they die. When I titled this thread 'treason' it wasn't hyperbole to me. I want the unAmerican, subversive, saboteurs of our country in BOTH parties-- but especially in the global communist Trojan Horse Democratic Party-- to finally answer for their treachery. I want arrogant, subervise people like John Brennan and James Clapper to die. I don't want anyone to take the law into their own hands-- I want them exposed, I want them tried, and I want the end of this to be the death of traitors by the sword of government. I hope this answers your question. Good luck storming the Bastille.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 5, 2018 18:37:09 GMT -5
... I want the leadership of the Democratic Party put before military tribunals. I want the masterminds of the party's subversive activities executed by firing squad, and their senior co-conspirators put in Gitmo until they die. ... I would hate to see the United States become this.
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Post by midjd on Jan 5, 2018 20:08:54 GMT -5
So it's your "wet dream" to watch people be executed by firing squad or locked away in Gitmo for life?
I'm not a psychiatrist, so I guess I'll refrain from further comment on that.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 5, 2018 22:39:37 GMT -5
Peaceful transfer of power is critical to our form of government. No one will let go of the reins of power of they think it means jail or worse. That's why we need the Russia and Dossier investigations. Both have implications for interference in the transfer to a new leader. It's also why we need the Clinton email and Foundation investigations to be dropped, even if there is evidence of wrongdoing. And no one will run if the winner takes the full power of the government to launch never ending investigations of things the loser has already been investigated for and nothing was found. If there is actually new information found, by all means, follow it, but having the president and his party continue to berate the loser is not a template for peaceful transitions.
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Post by dezii on Jan 5, 2018 23:37:32 GMT -5
Paul u know this investigation is being orchestrated by our current POTUS.. it's his payback for what I have no idea...personally I think it will bite him and his family on their royal arse...that u are happy about it doesn't surprise any one here.. Sessions thinks this will save his job...doing this favor for our Donald..for a short time possible but then he too will be history...this Administration like it's leader so corrupt...kind of like the one Grant supposedly had ...
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Post by dezii on Jan 5, 2018 23:45:55 GMT -5
Peaceful transfer of power is critical to our form of government. No one will let go of the reins of power of they think it means jail or worse. That's why we need the Russia and Dossier investigations. Both have implications for interference in the transfer to a new leader. It's also why we need the Clinton email and Foundation investigations to be dropped, even if there is evidence of wrongdoing. And no one will run if the winner takes the full power of the government to launch never ending investigations of things the loser has already been investigated for and nothing was found. If there is actually new information found, by all means, follow it, but having the president and his party continue to berate the loser is not a template for peaceful transitions. Your correct and for our whole countrys history that is the way it has been rub except for now...Former leaders for the most part honored..no one has to escape to another country...families of are safe...former leaders build libraries for scholarship for the ones inclined and for those wanting more of a surface exploration of their time in office, there is that too... Now all bets are off...this one has panned and dissed it seems almost all it's predecessors...at least the most immediate ones..party affiliation no matter....So does the next one of a different political trend do the same? A little..[ok, a bigtime] payback..?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 6, 2018 4:24:18 GMT -5
I'm one of those people who think Clinton deliberately broke the law with her server. It's an irony ( did I use that right?) that Trump's response has put her beyond the law in my opinion. Going after her in the email case would now be more damaging than what she did. It would be different if he kept quiet. I'm one of those people who thinks Trump broke the law when he coordinated a response to a North Korean missile tests in full view of guests, diners and waiters at Mar A Lago. All had cell phones and could easily take pictures of what was on the laptops. WASHINGTON — President Trump and his top aides coordinated their response to North Korea’s missile test on Saturday night in full view of diners at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida — a remarkable public display of presidential activity that is almost always conducted in highly secure settings. <snip> It is against the law for officials to be handling classified materials in a nonsecure setting. www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/mar-a-lago-north-korea-trump.html
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Post by dezii on Jan 6, 2018 8:12:33 GMT -5
I'm one of those people who think Clinton deliberately broke the law with her server. It's an irony ( did I use that right?) that Trump's response has put her beyond the law in my opinion. Going after her in the email case would now be more damaging than what she did. It would be different if he kept quiet. I'm one of those people who thinks Trump broke the law when he coordinated a response to a North Korean missile tests in full view of guests, diners and waiters at Mar A Lago. All had cell phones and could easily take pictures of what was on the laptops. WASHINGTON — President Trump and his top aides coordinated their response to North Korea’s missile test on Saturday night in full view of diners at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida — a remarkable public display of presidential activity that is almost always conducted in highly secure settings. <snip> It is against the law for officials to be handling classified materials in a nonsecure setting. www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/mar-a-lago-north-korea-trump.htmlJust saw on Yahoo the following.... " President Trump Says Michael Wolff's 'Fire and Fury' is 'Full of Lies' " So knowing the Donalds history of his statements...over 2000 alone this year...this means exactly to the opposite feeling....Michael Wolff's "Fire and Fury" is anything but filled with lies...actually fill of truism's...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 6, 2018 10:11:35 GMT -5
Super Fucked. I mean fuckity fuck fuck fucked: theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/What I'm attempting to do in this thread is expose the Obama / Clinton / DNC / Deep State crimes and their magnitude to a delusional bunch of leftists that might even still think there's a chance President Trump will be impeached in order to mitigate your cognitive dissonance when the opposite occurs and Hillary Clinton, James Clapper, John Brennan, and myriad others begin to be exposed, tried, and prosecuted for the most serious offenses ever committed against the United States, or indeed any other nation, in history.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 6, 2018 10:26:04 GMT -5
When will all this be a six fuckity?
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 6, 2018 11:21:50 GMT -5
When will all this be a six fuckity? When it is reported by a real news source.
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Post by dezii on Jan 6, 2018 14:12:22 GMT -5
Super Fucked. I mean fuckity fuck fuck fucked: theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/What I'm attempting to do in this thread is expose the Obama / Clinton / DNC / Deep State crimes and their magnitude to a delusional bunch of leftists that might even still think there's a chance President Trump will be impeached in order to mitigate your cognitive dissonance when the opposite occurs and Hillary Clinton, James Clapper, John Brennan, and myriad others begin to be exposed, tried, and prosecuted for the most serious offenses ever committed against the United States, or indeed any other nation, in history. [sigh...as before] ................... [needed , wanted , a extra cup]
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 6, 2018 14:55:47 GMT -5
Super Fucked. I mean fuckity fuck fuck fucked: theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/What I'm attempting to do in this thread is expose the Obama / Clinton / DNC / Deep State crimes and their magnitude to a delusional bunch of leftists that might even still think there's a chance President Trump will be impeached in order to mitigate your cognitive dissonance when the opposite occurs and Hillary Clinton, James Clapper, John Brennan, and myriad others begin to be exposed, tried, and prosecuted for the most serious offenses ever committed against the United States, or indeed any other nation, in history. I did manage to digest the whole article. I'll give CTH this: the volume of work they've put into researching and sourcing their theory is impressive. I wish I knew more about the US intelligence apparatus so I could independently verify their major assertions. Based on what little I do know and the evidence they present, their theory at the very least seems plausible. Not a sure thing, but plausible. Given the sophistication of the conspiracy and knowledge needed to decipher it, it could never make it into an MSM publication, regardless of merit (sad but true, thyme4change). This is my not-so-subtle way of prompting skeptics to set aside a bit of time to read the article rather than waiting for the MSM to distill it into something simpler. It's the kind of food you don't want pre-chewed.
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Post by dondub on Jan 6, 2018 15:20:13 GMT -5
Isn't this the third "biggest political scandal" in the history of the solar system in the last 3 months?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 6, 2018 16:12:35 GMT -5
Isn't this the third "biggest political scandal" in the history of the solar system in the last 3 months? It refers to the same scandal, just growing bigger in scope as new facts emerge. If you want a name for it, I suggest "Multidepartmental conspiracy to illegally gather and weaponize intelligence for the purpose of destroying Donald Trump's presidency". Not unlike what Pres. Nixon was accused of doing, only on a larger scale. One point where I unequivocally disagree with Paul is his assertion that these allegations, if proven, would constitute treason. This article doesn't so much as mention treason. Others might. I suspect Paul's "We executed the Rosenbergs for less." statement is the sum of his case for treason. I do share his view that, should the allegations be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, the just punishment for the senior conspirators is death. Corruption at the highest levels of government, abuse of power to effect political change of this magnitude, is an unforgivable crime that should be punished in the severest way possible. At the same time, I respect that treason is narrowly defined by the law. Guilty conspirators should be deemed traitors or not according to the law. To disregard the law and classify them as traitors because they're deserving of death would be the greater injustice.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 6, 2018 16:29:39 GMT -5
Who are the Rosenbergs?
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Post by dondub on Jan 6, 2018 17:30:11 GMT -5
I do share his view that, should the allegations be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, the just punishment for the senior conspirators is death. Corruption at the highest levels of government, abuse of power to effect political change of this magnitude, is an unforgivable crime that should be punished in the severest way possible.
Not being Christian I'm not a supporter of the death penalty. Nor do I have a certain posters hyperbolic bloodlust. I am on the record here that all guilty parties should be indicted, convicted, and imprisoned regardless of political leanings. In certain of those cases, if warranted, I can easily support life without parole.
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Post by dezii on Jan 6, 2018 18:51:57 GMT -5
Isn't this the third "biggest political scandal" in the history of the solar system in the last 3 months? possible fourth month...
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ibid.: We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp. The "reports the bureau had received from other sources" (which appears as a link in the original) are the subject of the debunking in Reply #128. True, this doesn't prove the Steele dossier was the trigger, but if they're appealing to debunked theory in their defense... The Fusion GPS Op Ed stated that there were 'many' reports made to the FBI about Trump and Kuchners murky financial deals with Russian oligarchs prior to their dossier being submitted. We don't know for sure that the 'source within the Trump camp' was the drunken Papodopolos guy or someone else - the Trump Camp has always been notoriously leaky.
Kuchner and Trump both used Deutche Bank, which has a history of enabling Russian money laundering. Paul Manafort was rumored to be heavily involved in money laundering for the Russians. This is just what I know, as an average unconnected American living in the rural Bible belt - imagine how much more info the FBI had, both substantiated and unsubstantiated (like the dossier) that led them to launch their investigation? Fusion GPS testified for 21 days in front of government committees. The GOP is only releasing snippets of their testimony, despite promising Fusion GPS that their whole testimony would be made public. Wouldn't it be nice if the GOP let some sunshine in and released the whole testimony? Maybe the bigger question is, why won't the GOP release the testimony? What do they not what Americans to hear?
On Tuesday, Fusion GPS founders Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch wrote an op-ed for The New York Times. In it, they claimed they and their opposition research firm were nothing but an open book and were seeking greater transparency from three congressional committees who have been digging into the probe of Russian election meddling. “Senator Grassley provided Fusion GPS an opportunity for transparency six months ago when he invited the firm to publicly testify at an open committee hearing. Mr. Simpson declined. When faced with a subpoena from the Chairman and Ranking Member, Mr. Simpson refused to provide public testimony, using his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to negotiate for a closed-door interview. Despite his public statements, Mr. Simpson and his attorney demanded during the interview that the transcript be kept confidential. thefederalist.com/2018/01/05/federal-judge-obliterates-fusion-gps-attempt-to-hide-info-from-investigators/Looks like Fusion is afraid of the sunshine. As far as I know they are free to tell us what they testified to.
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