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Post by billisonboard on May 11, 2018 9:23:28 GMT -5
But it isn't showing up on door handles in the United States. By the Grace of God, no. Nor is it so virulent that the thought of a North American outbreak keeps me up at night. But it's not an imaginary threat, which is how demin is invoking it here.
I encourage you to research since you don't seem to recall the hyped hysteria that took place when President Obama wasn't doing enough to stop the Ebola emedemic that was going to destroy our nation. |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 11, 2018 10:43:58 GMT -5
By the Grace of God, no. Nor is it so virulent that the thought of a North American outbreak keeps me up at night. But it's not an imaginary threat, which is how demin is invoking it here.
I encourage you to research since you don't seem to recall the hyped hysteria that took place when President Obama wasn't doing enough to stop the Ebola emedemic that was going to destroy our nation. there is a nice long thread on this subject that should serve this purpose well. |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 11, 2018 10:48:44 GMT -5
It would have had to have been investigated to be "debunked" it was ignored and declared "debunked".
no. it was investigated.
the results of those investigations were posted on this board at least three times in my memory. i am pretty sure there was an entire thread dedicated to them. so, nice attempt at inoculation, but it is actually YOU that is ignoring the facts. NOTE TO THE BOARD: i pointed out when this accusation was brought up that it was bullshit. i knew it was bullshit right away because i do a lot of investing in the uranium sector, and i know what the policies are. first of all, U1 is a Canadian company. secondly, the mines in the US can ONLY produce mineral for the US, no matter who owns it. there are strict policies on how to export raw or refined Uranium. third, U1's mines are about 1/10th of US production, not 1/5th. and finally, this deal was not Clinton's to approve or deny. it was overseen by a 9 person board who voted UNANIMOUSLY to approve it. by law, only the president can veto the decision of the CFIUS. i know of no case in US history where he (or any other president) has done so. so, basically your "facts" are 100% wrong on this subject, as i have told you about half a dozen times. but rather than backing up your claims, you come at me with "it hasn't been investigated"? that is not a defense. that is a red herring. and it is also false. again: stop posting this particular non-fact, or lose all credibility. tyia
It won't do a bit of good, you know. Shooby is going to bring up the uranium deal again and again and again, blaming Hillary. Then it will be all about Obama "giving" Iran billions of dollars. They don't listen. well, i have to say that it is both pathetic and sad that people can't adjust their thinking when confronted with facts. but it won't stop me from repeating the facts. i guess what i would hope is that those on this board who still CONSIDER this as an uncertain subject will inform themselves. the facts are out there. if you want links to them, i can certainly provide them, or you can research it yourself.
however, i will guarantee that i have it 100% right, in this case. again, it is a subject with which i have some expertise, since i have known and followed this company (U1) for (15) years. edit: that is why i knew IMMEDIATELY that this story was cooked up- even BEFORE it was investigated.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 11, 2018 10:51:10 GMT -5
It won't do a bit of good, you know. Shooby is going to bring up the uranium deal again and again and again, blaming Hillary. Then it will be all about Obama "giving" Iran billions of dollars. They don't listen. BENGAZI! yeah, that is probably the kind of "investigation" he is referring to. sure- let's put a bunch of know-nothing lawyers and partisan hacks in charge of an investigation into something that is so simple to understand that a 3rd grader can ascertain the facts in half an hour of Googling. let's waste billions of taxpayer dollars running down Pizzagate style bullshit, and terrifying the ignorant GOP base. sure. that's a swell idea. not.
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Post by tallguy on May 11, 2018 11:01:21 GMT -5
yeah, that is probably the kind of "investigation" he is referring to. sure- let's put a bunch of know-nothing lawyers and partisan hacks in charge of an investigation into something that is so simple to understand that a 3rd grader can ascertain the facts in half an hour of Googling. let's waste billions of taxpayer dollars running down Pizzagate style bullshit, and terrifying the ignorant GOP base. sure. that's a swell idea. not.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 11, 2018 11:09:28 GMT -5
yeah, that is probably the kind of "investigation" he is referring to. sure- let's put a bunch of know-nothing lawyers and partisan hacks in charge of an investigation into something that is so simple to understand that a 3rd grader can ascertain the facts in half an hour of Googling. let's waste billions of taxpayer dollars running down Pizzagate style bullshit, and terrifying the ignorant GOP base. sure. that's a swell idea. not.
Isn't that half of GOP strategy now? oh, at least. it has been a growing strategy since the Cold War. #sad as i have said before: great leaders appeal to our bravery weak ones- our fears.
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Post by happyhoix on May 11, 2018 11:32:27 GMT -5
We are getting VERY close to blowing the lid off the entire Russian collusion hoax. My opinion remains that behind the scenes it is being made clear to Robert Mueller that he has been given a menu of options which is steadily shrinking with each passing day-- in other words, he's knows it's over and he has a limited number of "stay out of federal prison" options available and the government-- including President Trump, who has more class and wisdom than he gets credit for, would very much like to protect and preserve the reputation of the FBI to the extent possible, but there is a nuclear option at the ready. And the longer this drags on, the more likely it will have to be pressed. Haven't you been saying this for at least six months now?
It's like those big billboards you see in the country, promising the end of the world in 2012.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 11, 2018 12:09:11 GMT -5
We are getting VERY close to blowing the lid off the entire Russian collusion hoax. My opinion remains that behind the scenes it is being made clear to Robert Mueller that he has been given a menu of options which is steadily shrinking with each passing day-- in other words, he's knows it's over and he has a limited number of "stay out of federal prison" options available and the government-- including President Trump, who has more class and wisdom than he gets credit for, would very much like to protect and preserve the reputation of the FBI to the extent possible, but there is a nuclear option at the ready. And the longer this drags on, the more likely it will have to be pressed. Haven't you been saying this for at least six months now?
It's like those big billboards you see in the country, promising the end of the world in 2012. killer bees. ebola. benghazi. yellow cake. some people seem to enjoy being scared. either that, or they are having their fear used against them, which seems more likely.
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Post by thyme4change on May 11, 2018 16:09:56 GMT -5
Wait. What's wrong with yellow cake??!?
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Post by billisonboard on May 11, 2018 16:40:28 GMT -5
Wait. What's wrong with yellow cake??!? It isn't chocolate cake. |
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 11, 2018 22:12:02 GMT -5
It won't do a bit of good, you know. Shooby is going to bring up the uranium deal again and again and again, blaming Hillary. Then it will be all about Obama "giving" Iran billions of dollars. They don't listen. well, i have to say that it is both pathetic and sad that people can't adjust their thinking when confronted with facts. but it won't stop me from repeating the facts. I think you give them too much credit actually. It has nothing to do with their perceptions of fact, actual events, logical interpolations, etc. The only consideration is what alignment it has with what they want to believe. If it aligns its true, if it doesn't it's false. Kinda analogous to Freuds wish fulfillment phase. Excepts for adults.... |
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Post by midjd on May 11, 2018 23:05:28 GMT -5
well, i have to say that it is both pathetic and sad that people can't adjust their thinking when confronted with facts. but it won't stop me from repeating the facts. I think you give them too much credit actually. It has nothing to do with their perceptions of fact, actual events, logical interpolations, etc. The only consideration is what alignment it has with what they want to believe. If it aligns its true, if it doesn't it's false. Kinda analogous to Freuds wish fulfillment phase. Excepts for adults.... Totally OT, but an enormous congrats on the name change! |
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 11, 2018 23:34:48 GMT -5
I think you give them too much credit actually. It has nothing to do with their perceptions of fact, actual events, logical interpolations, etc. The only consideration is what alignment it has with what they want to believe. If it aligns its true, if it doesn't it's false. Kinda analogous to Freuds wish fulfillment phase. Excepts for adults.... Totally OT, but an enormous congrats on the name change! Thanks! It'll go back to normal soon, was just playing on my phone on the way home from the ceremony  |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 12, 2018 9:51:31 GMT -5
This is a VERY big deal. Watergate pales in comparison. The question of what Obama knew and when he knew it (and since it's community organizing 101, I have my own opinion based on intelligence guided by experience) isn't one of a break-in with the intent to plant a listening device, but the actual use of the intelligence apparatus of the government as a political weapon against a party and a candidate. This in itself doesn't rise to the level of treason, though they myriad felonies are enough to put someone in federal prison for the rest of their natural life, what follows- the attempt to oust Trump from office is textbook treason. What was it the left always said about Watergate? The cover-up was worse than the crime.
The fact of the matter is that the Mueller "investigation" is now proven to be a cover-up operation.
Consider what we know now:
The FBI planted a spy inside the Trump campaign to find dirt on him in order to prevent his being elected. They justified this spying by starting a counterintelligence investigation based on a phony “EC” forwarded to them by dirty bird CIA Director John Brennan, who said he received it from one of his contacts in England (Gee whiz, Wally- I wonder who that was?).
It makes Trump's victory even sweeter if you ask me. I wish I was there to see the blood drain from their faces as they realized they lost and everything they did would now come to light.
They found NOTHING they could use against him to stop him- not even with a mole being run by the FBI inside of the Trump campaign.
The obvious question is: what the fuck is the FBI doing appointing a Special Counsel to investigate an a phony intel operation scheme they themselves implemented? It's plain as day: this is not an investigation it's a desperate attempt to cover up what they were doing. The FISA warrant and the pretend investigation was an attempt to back-date their illegal political spying operation.
It's getting harder and harder to defend the precious pure as the wind-driven snow "rank and file" of the FBI. Fuck 'em. If enough of them don't stand up and say they can't be a part of this corrupt mafia-like organization and start resigning, then the FBI should be scrubbed agent by agent and anyone with fingerprints on this should be turned and used, or charged and locked up-- or both.
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Post by dondub on May 12, 2018 13:05:53 GMT -5
DEATH TO AMERICANS!
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Post by Pants on May 12, 2018 14:53:14 GMT -5
Totally OT, but an enormous congrats on the name change! Thanks! It'll go back to normal soon, was just playing on my phone on the way home from the ceremony Dr. Rukh! |
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Post by happyhoix on May 14, 2018 10:09:19 GMT -5
"The obvious question is: what the fuck is the FBI doing appointing a Special Counsel to investigate an a phony intel operation scheme they themselves implemented? It's plain as day: this is not an investigation it's a desperate attempt to cover up what they were doing. The FISA warrant and the pretend investigation was an attempt to back-date their illegal political spying operation."
No, actually, it is not.
It's pretzel logic.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 14, 2018 15:49:48 GMT -5
"The obvious question is: what the fuck is the FBI doing appointing a Special Counsel to investigate an a phony intel operation scheme they themselves implemented? It's plain as day: this is not an investigation it's a desperate attempt to cover up what they were doing. The FISA warrant and the pretend investigation was an attempt to back-date their illegal political spying operation."
No, actually, it is not.
It's pretzel logic.
Pretzel logic seems to be the buzzword on the left. You're like the 8,000th liberal to use the term in the last 30 days. The fact is that the Obama regime, in an effort to stop Trump from being elected, used the FBI and the cover of a counterintelligence investigation to plant a spy in the Trump campaign. It failed. To cover it up, they're back-dating all the paperwork now. Several pages ago, I stated my theory that there was no FISA warrant initially and that they got one as cover because they needed an explanation for what they knew that wasn't "we had a spy in the campaign". The Mueller interviews, searches, and arrests serve two purposes- they're first and foremost a smokescreen and a diversionary tactic, but like the FISA warrant- the investigation provides a cover story for why they know things they shouldn't know. I will remind you of that time they laughed at this And caution you that everything is proceeding in the direction which I have predicted it would. The Russia investigation is cover for an Obama regime political spying operation that dwarfs anything contemplated in the Watergate scandal. This is the biggest political scandal of our time- if you don't count the scandal to clear Hillary Clinton of her myriad felonies-- which is part of it. |
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Post by Opti on May 14, 2018 17:01:15 GMT -5
"The obvious question is: what the fuck is the FBI doing appointing a Special Counsel to investigate an a phony intel operation scheme they themselves implemented? It's plain as day: this is not an investigation it's a desperate attempt to cover up what they were doing. The FISA warrant and the pretend investigation was an attempt to back-date their illegal political spying operation."
No, actually, it is not.
It's pretzel logic.
I don't think its even pretzel logic. Its magical diversion logic. There's still no proof anyone spied on Trump. There might remain until the end of time no legit proof that spying was done on Trump with the reason to keep him from being elected.
We are 16 months into Trump's administration. He's the President and has appointed people to various agencies. If it really happened where is the email trail, the phone call trail, etc.? I think personally at best it resides in his mind and perhaps some of his followers.
Its very plain he's concerned about the Russia investigation. But why? He's lost his bad hires. He's lived. So what else is making him so nervous that he has the conservatives whining and story-telling on his behalf? Did Russia get him the margins plus to get victory in PA, WI, etc.? What did he do? What did he help happen on his behalf?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 14, 2018 17:03:39 GMT -5
"The obvious question is: what the fuck is the FBI doing appointing a Special Counsel to investigate an a phony intel operation scheme they themselves implemented? It's plain as day: this is not an investigation it's a desperate attempt to cover up what they were doing. The FISA warrant and the pretend investigation was an attempt to back-date their illegal political spying operation."
No, actually, it is not.
It's pretzel logic.
. February 5, 2018: first use of pretzel people on the boards. I'd argue on the importance of the poster understanding that. People have shown how dumbed down they wanted it. How can anyone impact such willful ignorance? on the memo-- releasing it will damage national security, but it's a nothingburger, and it's full of inaccuracies, but we can't tell you what's inaccurate about it and it's been since Friday-- and not one thing has been disputed. THAT is all I care about. They want to argue it-- argue it. So far it has been all smoke and mirrors. |
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Post by happyhoix on May 14, 2018 17:36:10 GMT -5
I was going to say, the first time I heard of pretzel logic was when SCP used it.
Don't you just hate when the opposition takes your favorite slur and turns it back on you? |
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Post by midjd on May 14, 2018 18:20:11 GMT -5
Have they finished mopping this up yet? Must be a small mop.
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Post by happyhoix on May 14, 2018 18:38:29 GMT -5
Have they finished mopping this up yet? Must be a small mop. Nope, the swamp Trump brought with him overwhelmed the existing swamp - aren't enough shop vacs in the world to clean up that mess.
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Post by tallguy on May 14, 2018 18:54:40 GMT -5
I was going to say, the first time I heard of pretzel logic was when SCP used it.
Don't you just hate when the opposition takes your favorite slur and turns it back on you? First time I heard of Pretzel Logic was 1974. Steely Dan. Good album. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 14, 2018 22:09:16 GMT -5
In other news, Mueller indicted a company that did not exist during the time period when the alleged Russian interference in our elections took place.
Almost all of Mueller's court appearances so far have gone disastrously for Mueller.
The 13 Russian alleged bot makers indicted by Mueller have hired a major law firm, Reed Smith, which appears to be smashing Mueller's team to bits in recent court appearances --so much so that Mueller is requesting the case be delayed due to improper service of Mueller's targets . . . by Mueller.
That's right.
Mueller is accusing himself of acting improperly, and so is requesting a delay in his case against the 13 Russian bot makers on that basis.
Mueller is showing us how easy it is to indict the proverbial ham sandwich, and why indictments really aren't what they're cracked up to be -- especially in politically-motivated cases.
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