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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 14, 2018 22:59:14 GMT -5
The Mueller Probe has been over for weeks. Guilliani was brought on board to negotiate an end to it which allows Mueller to save face with the understanding that stubborn resistance to the reality will result in Mueller facing ever more stringent consequences up to and including federal prison.
If you never click on another link- follow this one and read the whole thing. Or, just wait to find out what's going to happen after it happens.
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Post by Opti on May 14, 2018 23:57:45 GMT -5
Probably wise to post the relevant bit of the opinion/commentary from WSJ. The free bit does not extend that far. Just shows the judge possibly opining for no real reason or need.
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Post by Opti on May 15, 2018 0:02:29 GMT -5
In other news, Mueller indicted a company that did not exist during the time period when the alleged Russian interference in our elections took place. Almost all of Mueller's court appearances so far have gone disastrously for Mueller. The 13 Russian alleged bot makers indicted by Mueller have hired a major law firm, Reed Smith, which appears to be smashing Mueller's team to bits in recent court appearances --so much so that Mueller is requesting the case be delayed due to improper service of Mueller's targets . . . by Mueller. That's right.Mueller is accusing himself of acting improperly, and so is requesting a delay in his case against the 13 Russian bot makers on that basis.Mueller is showing us how easy it is to indict the proverbial ham sandwich, and why indictments really aren't what they're cracked up to be -- especially in politically-motivated cases. So is there a related link to this, or just opinion with some red bolded text to sell some folks? If the company to indict does not exist any longer but was taken over or sold to a recently created company, one would have to indict the part that exists now, not the non-existent one that did.
Looks like opinion. Of course they are going to hire good lawyers. Duh.
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Post by happyhoix on May 15, 2018 7:00:05 GMT -5
The Mueller Probe has been over for weeks. Guilliani was brought on board to negotiate an end to it which allows Mueller to save face with the understanding that stubborn resistance to the reality will result in Mueller facing ever more stringent consequences up to and including federal prison. If you never click on another link- follow this one and read the whole thing. Or, just wait to find out what's going to happen after it happens. You'll have to excuse me if I don't take too seriously a "sneaking suspicion" from the conservative nuthouse.
Journalism 101 - you don't report based on sneaking suspicions. Fake news.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 15, 2018 8:14:41 GMT -5
We are 16 months into Trump's administration. He's the President and has appointed people to various agencies. If it really happened where is the email trail, the phone call trail, etc.? I think personally at best it resides in his mind and perhaps some of his followers. Methinks you're going to regret saying this.
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Post by tallguy on May 15, 2018 8:32:21 GMT -5
The Mueller Probe has been over for weeks. Guilliani was brought on board to negotiate an end to it which allows Mueller to save face with the understanding that stubborn resistance to the reality will result in Mueller facing ever more stringent consequences up to and including federal prison. If you never click on another link- follow this one and read the whole thing. Or, just wait to find out what's going to happen after it happens. You'll have to excuse me if I don't take too seriously a "sneaking suspicion" from the conservative nuthouse.
Journalism 101 - you don't report based on sneaking suspicions. Fake news.
You do when truth is not your end game, and you have low standards of integrity in the exercise of political hackdom. On another note, it looks like somebody needs to turn down their font size again....
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Post by swamp on May 15, 2018 9:54:18 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on May 15, 2018 11:57:56 GMT -5
Mueller Probe Might Not Survive Much Longer yes. soon it will be as dead as Hillary Clinton.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 14:58:22 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 15:05:24 GMT -5
Mueller Probe Might Not Survive Much Longer yes. soon it will be as dead as Hillary Clinton. Well, since you brought it up- she has brought suspicions of her failing health on herself by repeatedly lying about and/or concealing her frailty. The latest events were her slipping down the stairs in India, and now she is concealing some sort of back brace. To say nothing of her alcoholism- which is the stuff of legend.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 15:06:38 GMT -5
We are 16 months into Trump's administration. He's the President and has appointed people to various agencies. If it really happened where is the email trail, the phone call trail, etc.? I think personally at best it resides in his mind and perhaps some of his followers. Methinks you're going to regret saying this. 100%
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 15:09:06 GMT -5
In other news, Mueller indicted a company that did not exist during the time period when the alleged Russian interference in our elections took place. Almost all of Mueller's court appearances so far have gone disastrously for Mueller. The 13 Russian alleged bot makers indicted by Mueller have hired a major law firm, Reed Smith, which appears to be smashing Mueller's team to bits in recent court appearances --so much so that Mueller is requesting the case be delayed due to improper service of Mueller's targets . . . by Mueller. That's right.Mueller is accusing himself of acting improperly, and so is requesting a delay in his case against the 13 Russian bot makers on that basis.Mueller is showing us how easy it is to indict the proverbial ham sandwich, and why indictments really aren't what they're cracked up to be -- especially in politically-motivated cases. So is there a related link to this, or just opinion with some red bolded text to sell some folks? If the company to indict does not exist any longer but was taken over or sold to a recently created company, one would have to indict the part that exists now, not the non-existent one that did.
Looks like opinion. Of course they are going to hire good lawyers. Duh.
Just an observation. As I stated in an earlier post (complete with links) Mueller got his bluff called. He didn't expect a response, he filed a motion for delay based on his own claimed misconduct (a technicality- formal service) however, the other party thinks they deserve their day in court. They've been accused of something, they want to see the proof. The judge agreed. Mueller's motion has been denied. This will likely result in Mueller dropping the bogus charges.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 15:11:48 GMT -5
In other news, Mueller indicted a company that did not exist during the time period when the alleged Russian interference in our elections took place. Almost all of Mueller's court appearances so far have gone disastrously for Mueller. The 13 Russian alleged bot makers indicted by Mueller have hired a major law firm, Reed Smith, which appears to be smashing Mueller's team to bits in recent court appearances --so much so that Mueller is requesting the case be delayed due to improper service of Mueller's targets . . . by Mueller. That's right.Mueller is accusing himself of acting improperly, and so is requesting a delay in his case against the 13 Russian bot makers on that basis.Mueller is showing us how easy it is to indict the proverbial ham sandwich, and why indictments really aren't what they're cracked up to be -- especially in politically-motivated cases. So is there a related link to this, or just opinion with some red bolded text to sell some folks? If the company to indict does not exist any longer but was taken over or sold to a recently created company, one would have to indict the part that exists now, not the non-existent one that did.
Looks like an opinion. Of course they are going to hire good lawyers. Duh.
Here you go: Reply #1537 posted May 7, 2018 at 4:55pm Post by DragonEnergySCP on May 7, 2018 at 4:55pm Mueller pulled a political stunt and filed charges related to the fake Russia scandal. The sham of a case cooked up against 13 Russian companies and 13 Russian citizens for running a "troll farm" (which to my knowledge may not even be illegal) and creating social media "bots" (which FB just allowed Messenger Bot again-- which is good for me and my marketing company- thanks) was an attempt by Mueller to make it look like Mueller was engaged in a real Russian collusion investigation instead of his primary function as a cover up of Obama / Clinton / DNC illegal spying and subsequent coup attempt. Well, what had happened was... Mueller's bluff got called- and was forced to file a motion to delay. In other words, they filed charges. Lawyers for the accused said, "Fine. Let's go to court". Mueller, in lieu of an outright dismissal had hoped to get a delay, however his motion has been denied. My prediction: embarassing dismissal is coming soon. www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627Prosecutors from special counsel Robert Mueller’s office are seeking to delay the first court hearing in a criminal case charging three Russian companies and 13 Russian citizens with using social media and other means to foment strife among Americans in advance of the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The 13 people charged in the high-profile indictment in February are considered unlikely to ever appear in a U.S. court. The three businesses accused of facilitating the alleged Russian troll farm operation — the Internet Research Agency, Concord Management and Consulting, and Concord Catering — were also expected to simply ignore the American criminal proceedings. Last month, however, a pair of Washington-area lawyers suddenly surfaced in the case, notifying the court that they represent Concord Management. POLITICO reported at the time that the move appeared to be a bid to force Mueller’s team to turn over relevant evidence to the Russian firm and perhaps even to bait prosecutors into an embarrassing dismissal in order to avoid disclosing sensitive information. On Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. Prosecutors also asked a judge to postpone the formal arraignment of Concord Management set for next week. The prosecution team sought the delay on the grounds that it’s unclear whether Concord Management formally accepted the court summons related to the case. Mueller’s prosecutors also revealed that they tried to deliver the summonses for Concord and IRA through the Russian government, without success www.cbsnews.com/live/video/20180506161034-muellers-delay-motion-in-russia-case-denied-by-a-federal-judge/
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Post by thyme4change on May 15, 2018 16:15:02 GMT -5
Motions to delay during discovery are super common. I don't think we should jump to any conclusions that this means something other than Mueller was surprised that anyone showed up on behalf of the Russians who were indicted.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 15, 2018 16:29:11 GMT -5
SS/DD.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 18:30:52 GMT -5
I can't help but think pretzel logic affects one's use of GIANT FONTS and ANNOYING COLORS...
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 15, 2018 19:04:39 GMT -5
I read something today about Mr. Mueller's team indicting a Russian company that didn't exist during the period the indictment claims it was committing unlawful acts. It was a comment somewhere. Anyone else hear about it? Fake news, or a real thing?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 19:12:13 GMT -5
I read something today about Mr. Mueller's team indicting a Russian company that didn't exist during the period the indictment claims it was committing unlawful acts. It was a comment somewhere. Anyone else hear about it? Fake news, or a real thing? That is a fact. And by the way- considering the "process crimes" he is attempting to prosecute people for- this is also as a matter of fact evidence of Mueller LYING TO A GRAND JURY. Just as an aside. www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 19:19:00 GMT -5
I have never been more right than I am about this Russia thing. If you've been arguing with me on this, or you actually still think there's actually some there there with respect to the Mueller probe and the Trump campaign colluding with Russians, you are going to eat the biggest helping of crow you've ever had in your life.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 19:25:31 GMT -5
Hindsight is 20/20, I have been tracking close to the bulls-eye from the beginning of the exposure of this whole sorted affair. You can go back through this thread to the places where I first broached the unmasking and the stunning Susan Farkas revelation that the Obama regime was indeed spying on Trump: “I was urging my former colleagues, and, and frankly speaking the people on the Hill [Democrat politicians], it was more actually aimed at telling the Hill people, get as much information as you can – get as much intelligence as you can – before President Obama leaves the administration.” Because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior [Obama] people who left; so it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy, um, that the Trump folks – if they found out HOW we knew what we knew about their, the Trump staff, dealing with Russians – that they would try to compromise those sources and methods; meaning we no longer have access to that intelligence. So I became very worried because not enough was coming out into the open and I knew that there was more. We have very good intelligence on Russia; so then I had talked to some of my former colleagues and I knew that they were also trying to help get information to the Hill. … That’s why you had the leaking”. [ Link to Farkas MSNBC Interview and Transcript]
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 19:49:56 GMT -5
Yay, more giant blocks of bullshit.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 15, 2018 19:51:47 GMT -5
Pretzel logic seems to be the buzzword on the left. You're like the 8,000th liberal to use the term in the last 30 days. February 5, 2018: first use of pretzel people on the boards. Democrats have become pretzel people on the memo-- releasing it will damage national security, but it's a nothingburger, and it's full of inaccuracies, but we can't tell you what's inaccurate about it and it's been since Friday-- and not one thing has been disputed. THAT is all I care about. They want to argue it-- argue it. So far it has been all smoke and mirrors. that was the first i had seen it since the 70's.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 19:54:16 GMT -5
NONE of what I posted is theory. The text messages are plain as the nose on your face, and the testimony yesterday is on the record. There's no spinning their way out of this. The country is starting to get a very clear picture of why Hillary Clinton may have exclaimed, as has been reported based on sources inside the Clinton Campaign, "If that ************ wins, we'll all hang from nooses!" You're talking about the FISA warrant in definite terms, but its existence is still a matter of speculation, is it not? Not anymore. It's time for review- I'm going through the whole thread.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 15, 2018 19:56:54 GMT -5
This is actually a remarkably thorough and well-put-together timeline. Hasn't gotten better for our friends at the Bureau, has it?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 15, 2018 20:01:14 GMT -5
Clinton never said that. oh, that's right. you don't believe in fact checkers. forgot.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 15, 2018 20:22:26 GMT -5
Clinton never said that. oh, that's right. you don't believe in fact checkers. forgot.
Have you already forgotten paul is here to do the thinking for you?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 15, 2018 20:24:33 GMT -5
February 5, 2018: first use of pretzel people on the boards. that was the first i had seen it since the 70's. I wonder if paul tried to sell it to the Florida Republican party like some of his other original phrases.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 21:01:46 GMT -5
Clinton never said that. oh, that's right. you don't believe in fact checkers. forgot.
Have you already forgotten paul is here to do the thinking for you? Clearly, there will be another post reminding him. I'd give it less than an hour... "Perhaps nothing is as frustrating as trying to “get through” to someone who simply won’t hear what you have to say. You can use example after example or make point after point trying to get them to see something that seems as obvious as the nose on your face and the narcissist simply won’t concede. When what you have to say challenges the grandiose image they have of themselves, they simply won’t give it any validity. And this is not usually because they have so much anxiety or are in such conflict of conscience over matters that they simply can’t bear the truth. Rather, it’s their defiant attitude toward anything but the truth as they insist on seeing it and their determination to maintain both the image they’ve constructed and the position of superiority they believe they deserve that motivates them to resist accepting what they actually know to be the real truth. This is the difference between really being in the psychological state of denial as opposed to engaging in denial as a tactic of impressiona management, image maintenance, and responsibility avoidance" www.drgeorgesimon.com/narcissistic-insult-when-reality-shatters-illusion/Sound familiar?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 15, 2018 21:06:06 GMT -5
Clinton never said that. oh, that's right. you don't believe in fact checkers. forgot.
Any bizarre thought that flitters through his head even briefly is true. How does he know? It's in his head. It wouldn't be there if it wasn't true.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 15, 2018 21:13:05 GMT -5
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