SPYGATE; SMOKING GUN

[Virgil Showlion]

May 7, 2018 10:36:51 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

May 7, 2018 9:51:32 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I watched the series.

To be the best of my knowledge, there's nobody on YMAM who (at this point) doesn't believe Ms. Clinton was criminally negligent, her team actively obstructed justice, and that the FBI/DoJ investigation was a sham. We've moved on to: are we trying to draw blood from a stone?

This does not accurately represent what I believe. Please do not presume to speak for me. You have now been given the knowledge that your statement is not true and you should rephrase your statement to represent the truth more accurately.

To the best of my knowledge, there are few members on YMAM who (at this point) don't believe Ms. Clinton was criminally negligent, her team actively obstructed justice, and that the FBI/DoJ investigation was a sham. The few holdouts are either biased or ignorant of the facts presented in the video series. It is my assertion that no reasonable, objective individual could conclude otherwise in the face of such a preponderance of evidence, not only as it pertains to all contentions combined, but in support of each contention individually.

Those members who have examined the case reasonably and objectively in toto--a majority--have long since moved on to: are we trying to draw blood from a stone?

[ken a.k.a OMK]

To the best of my knowledge, there are few members on YMAM who (at this point) don't believe Ms. Clinton was criminally negligent, her team actively obstructed justice, and that the FBI/DoJ investigation was a sham. The few holdouts are either biased or ignorant of the facts presented in the video series. It is my assertion that no reasonable, objective individual could conclude otherwise in the face of such a preponderance of evidence, not only as it pertains to all contentions combined, but in support of each contention individually.



Those members who have examined the case reasonably and objectively in toto--a majority--have long since moved on to: are we trying to draw blood from a stone?

insert quote here

Simple answer. Your knowledge is lacking fact. Don't go making such assumptions. Your opinion isn't everyone's opinion.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Mueller pulled a political stunt and filed charges related to the fake Russia scandal. The sham of a case cooked up against 13 Russian companies and 13 Russian citizens for running a "troll farm" (which to my knowledge may not even be illegal) and creating social media "bots" (which FB just allowed Messenger Bot again-- which is good for me and my marketing company- thanks) was an attempt by Mueller to make it look like Mueller was engaged in a real Russian collusion investigation instead of his primary function as a cover up of Obama / Clinton / DNC illegal spying and subsequent coup attempt. Well, what had happened was...

Mueller's bluff got called- and was forced to file a motion to delay. In other words, they filed charges. Lawyers for the accused said, "Fine. Let's go to court". Mueller, in lieu of an outright dismissal had hoped to get a delay, however his motion has been denied. My prediction: embarassing dismissal is coming soon.

www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627

Prosecutors from special counsel Robert Mueller’s office are seeking to delay the first court hearing in a criminal case charging three Russian companies and 13 Russian citizens with using social media and other means to foment strife among Americans in advance of the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

The 13 people charged in the high-profile indictment in February are considered unlikely to ever appear in a U.S. court. The three businesses accused of facilitating the alleged Russian troll farm operation — the Internet Research Agency, Concord Management and Consulting, and Concord Catering — were also expected to simply ignore the American criminal proceedings.

Last month, however, a pair of Washington-area lawyers suddenly surfaced in the case, notifying the court that they represent Concord Management. POLITICO reported at the time that the move appeared to be a bid to force Mueller’s team to turn over relevant evidence to the Russian firm and perhaps even to bait prosecutors into an embarrassing dismissal in order to avoid disclosing sensitive information.


On Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. Prosecutors also asked a judge to postpone the formal arraignment of Concord Management set for next week.

The prosecution team sought the delay on the grounds that it’s unclear whether Concord Management formally accepted the court summons related to the case. Mueller’s prosecutors also revealed that they tried to deliver the summonses for Concord and IRA through the Russian government, without success

www.cbsnews.com/live/video/20180506161034-muellers-delay-motion-in-russia-case-denied-by-a-federal-judge/

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 7, 2018 15:26:38 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

May 7, 2018 10:36:51 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

This does not accurately represent what I believe. Please do not presume to speak for me. You have now been given the knowledge that your statement is not true and you should rephrase your statement to represent the truth more accurately.

To the best of my knowledge, there are few members on YMAM who (at this point) don't believe Ms. Clinton was criminally negligent, her team actively obstructed justice, and that the FBI/DoJ investigation was a sham. The few holdouts are either biased or ignorant of the facts presented in the video series. It is my assertion that no reasonable, objective individual could conclude otherwise in the face of such a preponderance of evidence, not only as it pertains to all contentions combined, but in support of each contention individually.

Those members who have examined the case reasonably and objectively in toto--a majority--have long since moved on to: are we trying to draw blood from a stone?

If someone tries to kill you, and they fail. You don't let bygones be bygones. You get that sunuvabitch. The fact is that though they failed in their coup attempt, they must be punished so severely (I recommend the full punishment for treason-- following due process, and assuming a trial and conviction-- for treason) that should the thought ever occur to anyone else, they wouldn't dare speak it for the horrors delivered upon today's conspirators.

[happyhoix]

May 7, 2018 15:55:25 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Mueller pulled a political stunt and filed charges related to the fake Russia scandal. The sham of a case cooked up against 13 Russian companies and 13 Russian citizens for running a "troll farm" (which to my knowledge may not even be illegal) and creating social media "bots" (which FB just allowed Messenger Bot again-- which is good for me and my marketing company- thanks) was an attempt by Mueller to make it look like Mueller was engaged in a real Russian collusion investigation instead of his primary function as a cover up of Obama / Clinton / DNC illegal spying and subsequent coup attempt. Well, what had happened was...

Mueller's bluff got called- and was forced to file a motion to delay. In other words, they filed charges. Lawyers for the accused said, "Fine. Let's go to court". Mueller, in lieu of an outright dismissal had hoped to get a delay, however his motion has been denied. My prediction: embarassing dismissal is coming soon.

www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627

Prosecutors from special counsel Robert Mueller’s office are seeking to delay the first court hearing in a criminal case charging three Russian companies and 13 Russian citizens with using social media and other means to foment strife among Americans in advance of the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

The 13 people charged in the high-profile indictment in February are considered unlikely to ever appear in a U.S. court. The three businesses accused of facilitating the alleged Russian troll farm operation — the Internet Research Agency, Concord Management and Consulting, and Concord Catering — were also expected to simply ignore the American criminal proceedings.

Last month, however, a pair of Washington-area lawyers suddenly surfaced in the case, notifying the court that they represent Concord Management. POLITICO reported at the time that the move appeared to be a bid to force Mueller’s team to turn over relevant evidence to the Russian firm and perhaps even to bait prosecutors into an embarrassing dismissal in order to avoid disclosing sensitive information.


On Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. Prosecutors also asked a judge to postpone the formal arraignment of Concord Management set for next week.

The prosecution team sought the delay on the grounds that it’s unclear whether Concord Management formally accepted the court summons related to the case. Mueller’s prosecutors also revealed that they tried to deliver the summonses for Concord and IRA through the Russian government, without success

www.cbsnews.com/live/video/20180506161034-muellers-delay-motion-in-russia-case-denied-by-a-federal-judge/

So - Mueller doesn't want to hand over their evidence to these two Washington lawyers because he doesn't want to disclose non public information on a case his team is still investigating and you interpret that to mean there is no case at all?

Interesting interpretation.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

May 7, 2018 10:36:51 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

May 7, 2018 9:51:32 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I watched the series.

To be the best of my knowledge, there's nobody on YMAM who (at this point) doesn't believe Ms. Clinton was criminally negligent, her team actively obstructed justice, and that the FBI/DoJ investigation was a sham. We've moved on to: are we trying to draw blood from a stone?

This does not accurately represent what I believe. Please do not presume to speak for me. You have now been given the knowledge that your statement is not true and you should rephrase your statement to represent the truth more accurately.

Nor I.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

May 7, 2018 16:01:10 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 7, 2018 15:26:38 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

To the best of my knowledge, there are few members on YMAM who (at this point) don't believe Ms. Clinton was criminally negligent, her team actively obstructed justice, and that the FBI/DoJ investigation was a sham. The few holdouts are either biased or ignorant of the facts presented in the video series. It is my assertion that no reasonable, objective individual could conclude otherwise in the face of such a preponderance of evidence, not only as it pertains to all contentions combined, but in support of each contention individually.

Those members who have examined the case reasonably and objectively in toto--a majority--have long since moved on to: are we trying to draw blood from a stone?

If someone tries to kill you, and they fail. You don't let bygones be bygones. You get that sunuvabitch. The fact is that though they failed in their coup attempt, they must be punished so severely (I recommend the full punishment for treason-- following due process, and assuming a trial and conviction-- for treason) that should the thought ever occur to anyone else, they wouldn't dare speak it for the horrors delivered upon today's conspirators.

Hold onto that thought when we get to the bottom of trump and russia.

[Opti]

Even Trump can't be accused of Treason because we aren't at war with Russia.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.Jul 12, 2017

Really I think the horrors are merely reading about stories that people think are coup attempts.

[Virgil Showlion]

May 7, 2018 16:01:10 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 7, 2018 15:26:38 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

To the best of my knowledge, there are few members on YMAM who (at this point) don't believe Ms. Clinton was criminally negligent, her team actively obstructed justice, and that the FBI/DoJ investigation was a sham. The few holdouts are either biased or ignorant of the facts presented in the video series. It is my assertion that no reasonable, objective individual could conclude otherwise in the face of such a preponderance of evidence, not only as it pertains to all contentions combined, but in support of each contention individually.

Those members who have examined the case reasonably and objectively in toto--a majority--have long since moved on to: are we trying to draw blood from a stone?

If someone tries to kill you, and they fail. You don't let bygones be bygones. You get that sunuvabitch. The fact is that though they failed in their coup attempt, they must be punished so severely (I recommend the full punishment for treason-- following due process, and assuming a trial and conviction-- for treason) that should the thought ever occur to anyone else, they wouldn't dare speak it for the horrors delivered upon today's conspirators.

In what world do you get a conviction for treason?

They bleached/smashed their laptops, servers, backup servers, iPads, phones, and everything they could get their hands on. Everything was irreversibly destroyed as soon as subpoenas started flying. All key witnesses were preemptively immunized. Departments "lost" all critical data. You know all of this.

The parties involved did their jobs extremely well. They systematically wiped out all evidence so that little more was coming to light even by 2017. You and I know they wiped it out to conceal malfeasance. So do the litany of congressmen, prosecutors, etc. who grilled Mr. Comey, and anyone with a grasp of the facts and two brain cells to rub together. But you should also know that systematically destroying evidence isn't enough for a conviction based on an assumption of what that evidence proved.

You can't take a case in front of a judge and argue, "Behold the extraordinary measures these 15 people (at least) took to destroy evidence, sabotage the investigation, and predetermine the outcome. Obviously there's something juicy they wanted to cover up. We can't prove what it is, since all the evidence is destroyed, but we can assume it's super juicy. We're going to prosecute these people--most of whom were immunized--for the highest crime in the land based on what we infer was proven by the mountain of evidence they destroyed."

You'd be laughed out of the courtroom. If the accused hadn't been immunized, I assume you'd be able to go after them for obstruction of justice, but i) the ones who did the majority of the liquidation are, in fact, all immunized (a la Pres. Bush torture precedent), and ii) obstruction of justice carries de facto slap on the wrist penalties for the well connected. Nothing comparable to treason.

Treason charges are a pipe dream.

What's more, you have an Orwellian security apparatus that (as far as I can tell) places no meaningful restrictions at all on who or what the US government can spy on.

What have we discovered since this whole thing started?

For one, that agencies can spy and retroactively seek a warrant if they find something juicy. All perfectly legal. They can use data from any source(s) they want to to bootstrap investigations, with no transparency or public accountability whatsoever. We learned that Title I--again, perfectly legal--allows surveillance to spread from a target to anyone he comes in contact with, risk- and hassle-free. I only recently discovered federal warrants are carte blanche for fishing expeditions. The FBI can get a warrant with whatever half-baked premise gets them through the door and spin off as many criminal investigations as they please based on what they find. And then of course we have glimpses of the horrors at the CIA, NSA, etc. provided to us by Mr. Snowden, the Vault 5 leaks, etc.--all of which appear to be legal at least on some level.

So let's be realistic: there are no practical legal limits on who or what the US government can spy on. There are merely inconveniences. The agencies say "It's for the good of the nation," nobody can prove otherwise (how could they?), and the legal infrastructure that at one time would have prevented agencies from running amok has been systematically dismantled at a frenzied clip since 2001. You're going to convict people for using the tools the Bush and Obama administrations handed them on a silver platter? For treason, no less?

It's not going to happen. They're simply riding the monster the GOP gave birth to with the Patriot Act.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 7, 2018 21:13:58 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

May 7, 2018 16:01:10 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

If someone tries to kill you, and they fail. You don't let bygones be bygones. You get that sunuvabitch. The fact is that though they failed in their coup attempt, they must be punished so severely (I recommend the full punishment for treason-- following due process, and assuming a trial and conviction-- for treason) that should the thought ever occur to anyone else, they wouldn't dare speak it for the horrors delivered upon today's conspirators.

In what world do you get a conviction for treason?

They bleached/smashed their laptops, servers, backup servers, iPads, phones, and everything they could get their hands on. Everything was irreversibly destroyed as soon as subpoenas started flying. All key witnesses were preemptively immunized. Departments "lost" all critical data. You know all of this.

The parties involved did their jobs extremely well. They systematically wiped out all evidence so that little more was coming to light even by 2017. You and I know they wiped it out to conceal malfeasance. So do the litany of congressmen, prosecutors, etc. who grilled Mr. Comey, and anyone with a grasp of the facts and two brain cells to rub together. But you should also know that systematically destroying evidence isn't enough for a conviction based on an assumption of what that evidence proved.

You can't take a case in front of a judge and argue, "Behold the extraordinary measures these 15 people (at least) took to destroy evidence, sabotage the investigation, and predetermine the outcome. Obviously there's something juicy they wanted to cover up. We can't prove what it is, since all the evidence is destroyed, but we can assume it's super juicy. We're going to prosecute these people--most of whom were immunized--for the highest crime in the land based on what we infer was proven by the mountain of evidence they destroyed."

You'd be laughed out of the courtroom. If the accused hadn't been immunized, I assume you'd be able to go after them for obstruction of justice, but i) the ones who did the majority of the liquidation are, in fact, all immunized (a la Pres. Bush torture precedent), and ii) obstruction of justice carries de facto slap on the wrist penalties for the well connected. Nothing comparable to treason.

Treason charges are a pipe dream.

What's more, you have an Orwellian security apparatus that (as far as I can tell) places no meaningful restrictions at all on who or what the US government can spy on.

What have we discovered since this whole thing started?

For one, that agencies can spy and retroactively seek a warrant if they find something juicy. All perfectly legal. They can use data from any source(s) they want to to bootstrap investigations, with no transparency or public accountability whatsoever. We learned that Title I--again, perfectly legal--allows surveillance to spread from a target to anyone he comes in contact with, risk- and hassle-free. I only recently discovered federal warrants are carte blanche for fishing expeditions. The FBI can get a warrant with whatever half-baked premise gets them through the door and spin off as many criminal investigations as they please based on what they find. And then of course we have glimpses of the horrors at the CIA, NSA, etc. provided to us by Mr. Snowden, the Vault 5 leaks, etc.--all of which appear to be legal at least on some level.

So let's be realistic: there are no practical legal limits on who or what the US government can spy on. There are merely inconveniences. The agencies say "It's for the good of the nation," nobody can prove otherwise (how could they?), and the legal infrastructure that at one time would have prevented agencies from running amok has been systematically dismantled at a frenzied clip since 2001. You're going to convict people for using the tools the Bush and Obama administrations handed them on a silver platter? For treason, no less?

It's not going to happen. They're simply riding the monster the GOP gave birth to with the Patriot Act.

You convene a military tribunal, you convict them, and you line them up.

This last week has been a very big week in exposing the corruption. Emails are not gone- you can't get rid of all of them. There're other devices out there like Anthony Weiner's laptop. There are individuals who know the substance of those conversations. This is so much worse than any of imagine- the country will be ready to act as it comes to light what they tried to do. This is really, really bad. 

And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs-- and he knows where the bodies are buried. The man can travel through space and time...

[Tennesseer]

"And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs"

For posterity.

[weltschmerz]

"And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs-- and he knows where the bodies are buried. The man can travel through space and time..."

[weltschmerz]

Yes, it's very moral to have affairs. impregnate a woman who is not your wife, lie through your teeth about everything, all the time, to everyone, run a fake university, stiff your workers and steal from a charity.
Very moral, indeed.
Evidently, your idea of moral and mine are worlds apart.

[tallguy]

May 7, 2018 21:50:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

"And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs"

For posterity.

Before saving the post, don't you think you should have let him know that he misspelled "dishonest and corrupt"?

[djAdvocate]

May 7, 2018 21:50:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

"And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs"

For posterity.

words escape me.....

[billisonboard]

May 7, 2018 21:48:30 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 7, 2018 21:13:58 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

In what world do you get a conviction for treason?
...

You convene a military tribunal, ...

Ex parte Milligan, 71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 2 (1866), was a U.S. Supreme Court case that ruled the application of military tribunals to citizens when civilian courts are still operating is unconstitutional. link

[Opti]

May 7, 2018 21:50:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

"And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs"

For posterity.

A sentence like that should get someone committed.

[Opti]

May 7, 2018 21:48:30 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 7, 2018 21:13:58 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

In what world do you get a conviction for treason?

They bleached/smashed their laptops, servers, backup servers, iPads, phones, and everything they could get their hands on. Everything was irreversibly destroyed as soon as subpoenas started flying. All key witnesses were preemptively immunized. Departments "lost" all critical data. You know all of this.

The parties involved did their jobs extremely well. They systematically wiped out all evidence so that little more was coming to light even by 2017. You and I know they wiped it out to conceal malfeasance. So do the litany of congressmen, prosecutors, etc. who grilled Mr. Comey, and anyone with a grasp of the facts and two brain cells to rub together. But you should also know that systematically destroying evidence isn't enough for a conviction based on an assumption of what that evidence proved.

You can't take a case in front of a judge and argue, "Behold the extraordinary measures these 15 people (at least) took to destroy evidence, sabotage the investigation, and predetermine the outcome. Obviously there's something juicy they wanted to cover up. We can't prove what it is, since all the evidence is destroyed, but we can assume it's super juicy. We're going to prosecute these people--most of whom were immunized--for the highest crime in the land based on what we infer was proven by the mountain of evidence they destroyed."

You'd be laughed out of the courtroom. If the accused hadn't been immunized, I assume you'd be able to go after them for obstruction of justice, but i) the ones who did the majority of the liquidation are, in fact, all immunized (a la Pres. Bush torture precedent), and ii) obstruction of justice carries de facto slap on the wrist penalties for the well connected. Nothing comparable to treason.

Treason charges are a pipe dream.

What's more, you have an Orwellian security apparatus that (as far as I can tell) places no meaningful restrictions at all on who or what the US government can spy on.

What have we discovered since this whole thing started?

For one, that agencies can spy and retroactively seek a warrant if they find something juicy. All perfectly legal. They can use data from any source(s) they want to to bootstrap investigations, with no transparency or public accountability whatsoever. We learned that Title I--again, perfectly legal--allows surveillance to spread from a target to anyone he comes in contact with, risk- and hassle-free. I only recently discovered federal warrants are carte blanche for fishing expeditions. The FBI can get a warrant with whatever half-baked premise gets them through the door and spin off as many criminal investigations as they please based on what they find. And then of course we have glimpses of the horrors at the CIA, NSA, etc. provided to us by Mr. Snowden, the Vault 5 leaks, etc.--all of which appear to be legal at least on some level.

So let's be realistic: there are no practical legal limits on who or what the US government can spy on. There are merely inconveniences. The agencies say "It's for the good of the nation," nobody can prove otherwise (how could they?), and the legal infrastructure that at one time would have prevented agencies from running amok has been systematically dismantled at a frenzied clip since 2001. You're going to convict people for using the tools the Bush and Obama administrations handed them on a silver platter? For treason, no less?

It's not going to happen. They're simply riding the monster the GOP gave birth to with the Patriot Act.

You convene a military tribunal, you convict them, and you line them up.

This last week has been a very big week in exposing the corruption. Emails are not gone- you can't get rid of all of them. There're other devices out there like Anthony Weiner's laptop. There are individuals who know the substance of those conversations. This is so much worse than any of imagine- the country will be ready to act as it comes to light what they tried to do. This is really, really bad. 

And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs-- and he knows where the bodies are buried. The man can travel through space and time...

Its not really really bad, unless you want to count the really bizzare shill at the end.

[Opti]

May 7, 2018 22:58:19 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 7, 2018 21:50:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

"And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs"

For posterity.

words escape me.....

I've got words, lots and lots of words...

CINO - Christian In Name Only

Hey, Sarah, look out! Someone's trying to take your job!

This is your brain on Trump.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Curious Note – Robert Mueller Interviewed NSA Mike Rogers Immediately Prior To Rosenstein Renewing Third FISA Extension…
Posted on May 7, 2018 by sundance

Throughout 2015, and until April 28th, 2016, there were unknown “outside government” contractors with access to the FBI/NSA database. Those outside government agents were conducting unlawful searches of the FISA database. The 99-page FISA Court opinion by presiding justice Rosemary Collyer proves this with absolute certainty. CTH has long suspected those outside agents were doing political opposition research; and were allowed to do so as part of the political misuse of the intelligence apparatus.

Pg 83. “FBI gave raw Section 702–acquired information to a private entity that was not a federal agency and whose personnel were not sufficiently supervised by a federal agency for compliance minimization procedures.”
(2017 FISA Court Opinion – 99 Page Brief)

With the revelation of Daniel Richman, a close friend of James Comey, being an “special access employee” of the FBI, hired by Comey, CTH anticipates Richman will be discovered as one of those previously described “outside government” unpaid contractors with access to the FISA database. The new information of Richman, along with what we know of Fusion-GPS, is an example of the hidden connective tissue between the Lawfare group (outside government) and the “small group” of DOJ and FBI officials inside government.

NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers ordered a FISA-702 audit, and shut down the contractor access to FISA-702(16)(17) [“to/from”(16), “about”(17)] systems on April 28th, 2016. Those contractors -together with their inside allies- doing oppo-research, moved to make the unofficial use of the database, official.

Toward this end, Fusion GPS (an FBI contractor) hired Nellie Ohr (wife of DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr) in May 2016. And by July 2016 the collective group of insiders and outsiders had assembled enough sketchy data-points/information to frame the outline needed for an official investigation. This is the origin of the July 2016 FBI Counterintelligence operation.

Continue reading for full article with notes and hotlinks → theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/07/curious-note-robert-mueller-interviewed-nsa-mike-rogers-immediately-prior-to-rosenstein-renewing-third-fisa-extension/

[Opti]

May 7, 2018 21:50:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

"And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs"

For posterity.

When I got up this morning, I realized I should not read the statement above as a literal statement. But an emotional one framed by a Trump supporter. So I now see it as a statement of hope. I wish Trump is not guilty of anything Russia related even though I know he is pure as coal tar.

[billisonboard]

May 8, 2018 10:18:22 GMT -5 Opti said:

May 7, 2018 21:50:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

"And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs"

For posterity.

When I got up this morning, I realized I should not read the statement above as a literal statement. But an emotional one framed by a Trump supporter. ...

As he stated on another thread:

May 8, 2018 9:29:00 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

... It's all love.

And remember:

[Virgil Showlion]

I've long since believed Josef Stalin was the most moral man in Soviet Russia save for his quirky leadership style.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

It's getting tougher to deny the Mueller investigation is primarily a cover-up of the weaponization of the intelligence and law enforcement agencies of government for political purposes by Obama & Hillary, and to that end- it is a partisan witch hunt designed to topple a duly elected President.

PREDICTION: Mueller will be gone in 30 days.

[Tennesseer]

Gone does not mean the investigation is over. It will continue.

[NastyWoman]

May 7, 2018 21:50:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

"And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs"

For posterity.

This must be the saddest statement I have read in a long time. And I wholeheartedly reject it since I personally know a quite a few of moral American males, which according to the above statement would be impossible.

[Opti]

May 8, 2018 11:59:06 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

It's getting tougher to deny the Mueller investigation is primarily a cover-up of the weaponization of the intelligence and law enforcement agencies of government for political purposes by Obama & Hillary, and to that end- it is a partisan witch hunt designed to topple a duly elected President.

PREDICTION: Mueller will be gone in 30 days.

I get you are worried about your boy Trump being guilty. But doesn't it make more sense to campaign him to not fire Mueller and because it will convince people he's guilty?

[thyme4change]

May 8, 2018 11:59:06 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

It's getting tougher to deny the Mueller investigation is primarily a cover-up of the weaponization of the intelligence and law enforcement agencies of government for political purposes by Obama & Hillary, and to that end- it is a partisan witch hunt designed to topple a duly elected President.

PREDICTION: Mueller will be gone in 30 days.

No it isn't.

And he probably will be gone in 30 days because Trump makes bad decisions.

[Virgil Showlion]

May 7, 2018 21:48:30 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs-- and he knows where the bodies are buried. The man can travel through space and time...

If...

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I think you may be pushing the technique a bit, Paul.
 

[tallguy]

May 9, 2018 7:56:39 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

May 7, 2018 21:48:30 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

And you have to remember- the longer they investigate Trump, the more it's clear he may be the most moral man in America save for a few extra marital affairs-- and he knows where the bodies are buried. The man can travel through space and time...

If...

you are here...       and the truth is here, then...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     (Edge of Observable Universe)                                                                                                                                I am Here      
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I think you may be pushing the technique a bit, Paul.
 

And people wonder why some posters are so easily and regularly dismissed....