SPYGATE; SMOKING GUN

[Opti]

Apr 30, 2018 5:40:19 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Of course he knew. Comey was Hillary Clinton's fixer, not a legitimate Fir. Of FBI...

Alan Dershowitz
@alandersh
Comey said it never occurred to him there could be connection between Weiner and Hillary C.
Did the head of the FBI not know W was married to HC top aide? Duh!
8:17 PM · Apr 29, 2018

Time to jump out of the mental prison that has you believe that if person A is not for your side, they must obviously be working for the other side.

There are more than two sides FWIW. There should not have been a connection between Weiner's Laptop and Hillary. Its only because Huma was irresponsible in her use of computers in getting email that there was. I didn't expect a connection, but that's because I would have never used his computer in her situation.

Lastly, fixers do not torpedo election chances of their employer/patron shortly before the election. What were you saying about the past in a recent post?

[happyhoix]

Apr 30, 2018 5:40:19 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Of course he knew. Comey was Hillary Clinton's fixer, not a legitimate Fir. Of FBI...

Alan Dershowitz
@alandersh
Comey said it never occurred to him there could be connection between Weiner and Hillary C.
Did the head of the FBI not know W was married to HC top aide? Duh!
8:17 PM · Apr 29, 2018

As Opt stated, Comey has to be the very worst fixer in the history of mankind, since his last minute presser announcing the discovery of more Clinton emails helped her lose the 2016 election.

When you spout a conspiracy narrative, I guess sometimes you have to ignore reality.

[djAdvocate]

the reality is that the left will probably never accept Comey any more than the right will, for that exact reason.  MANY on the left feel he cost Clinton the election, with some justification.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I'd like to reiterate my much, much earlier prediction in this very long thread: high profile people are going to prison for the rest of their lives.


theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/01/house-judiciary-chairman-bob-goodlatte-requests-review-of-doj-influence-upon-clinton-investigation/

From the OIG report: 4. The Attorney General Expresses Strong Concerns to McCabe and other FBI Officials about Leaks, and McCabe Discusses Recusing Himself from CF Investigation (October 26, 2016)

McCabe told the OIG that during the October 2016 time frame, it was his “perception that there was a lot of information coming out of likely the [FBI’s] New York Field Office” that was ending up in the news. McCabe told the OIG that he “had some heated back-and-forths” with the New York Assistant Director in Charge (“NY-ADIC”) over the issue of media leaks.

On October 26th, 2016, McCabe and NY-ADIC participated in what McCabe described as “a hastily convened conference call with the Attorney General [Loretta Lynch] who delivered the same message to us” about leaks, with specific focus being on leaks regarding the high-profile investigation by FBI’s New York Field Office into the death of Eric Garner. McCabe told us that he “never heard her use more forceful language.” NY-ADIC confirmed that the participants got “ripped by the AG on leaks.”

According to NY-ADIC’s testimony and an e-mail he sent to himself on October 31, McCabe indicated to NY-ADIC and a then-FBI Executive Assistant Director (“EAD”) in a conversation after Attorney General Lynch disconnected from the call that McCabe was recusing himself from the CF Investigation.

From CTH: the below is "unrelated"...

[countrygirl2]

Well they couldn't get Bill on anything but messing with a couple of women, trumps treason goes a lot deeper, maybe they can prove

it, maybe they cannot. As hubs says no matter what trump is just plain not a good person. He lives, is unethical, poor character,

spews hatred, divisive. He is no good for the country and hope he is gone either through impeachment which would be the best to

get rid of him soon as possible. He is worse then a swamp character, he embodies the very essence of the swamp. But then you are

left with another individual pence, who under his guise as a Christian could do even more harm. Neither are worth the powder to

blow them up with.

[Opti]

Is Mark Penn how the questions were leaked?

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Apr 27, 2018 14:51:24 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Apr 27, 2018 12:44:10 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

You are quoting drug addicts now that claim exception for thier own addiction yet want to jail all others?  Way to drag the bottom of the bottom of the swamp

Rush is right to a degree.  the police have very poor policing.  and i have no problem fixing that.  but that is not what he is talking about doing, really.  what he is talking about doing is protecting lawbreakers from prosecution.

yeah, i know.  he doesn't view it that way.  but that is because feelings are the new facts on the right.

Lol, reminds me of that Gingrich tape where when confronted by facts contrary to his narrative just went with if people feel it's more than it is.

[Tennesseer]

Quite the wall of text.

[tallguy]

May 3, 2018 7:08:05 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Quite the wall of text.

Trust me, they are just as easy to skip over when they are shorter too.  

[Virgil Showlion]

Here's what Bill Clinton's pollster MARK PENN says about the Mueller investigation in his column today in THE HILL. I like CAPSLOCK.

Penn (one of the few honest liberals, along with Alan Dershowitz, in Paul's opinion) believes the Mueller investigation is completely corrupt.

The Hill:

Robert Mueller has plenty of questions for President Trump, and maybe he will get to ask them. Most of them seemed like perjury traps rather than real questions for the president and, surprisingly, they contain very little that wasn’t in the public domain though prior leaks. In other words, the president is not a target because they have nothing implicating him, and so they want to use the interview to create such material.

But the conduct of the investigation by the special counsel and his team has raised a lot of questions as to its foundation, conflicts of interest, fairness and methods. Most of the public, based on the last Harvard Caps-Harris Poll, supports Robert Mueller going forward with his investigation, but I wonder whether that would still be the case if he were required to answer a few questions himself.

...

The article goes on to suggest numerous potential conflicts of interest involving Mr. Mueller.

[Virgil Showlion]

AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP - I deleted your wall of text. As a service to you, because you posted a salient article in good faith, I have roughly duplicated your post above, with an excerpt of appropriate length. I will not do so again in 2018. Your post will simply disappear.

Please respect the rules we've established for the forum. They are not unreasonable.

   - Virgil (Mod)

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Over here in reality, we're seeing the fewest people receiving unemployment benefits since 1973, lower than expected jobless claims, the lowest African-American unemployment since records have been kept, and the lowest overall unemployment since the Clinton administration. Over here in reality, we're seeing the systematic annihilation of ISIS, and the end of a 65 year state of war with North Korea, the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula, and the release of American detainees. Meanwhile in the Trump Derangement Syndrome bubble we're looking at payments to lawyers who paid Stormy Daniels, delusions of Russian collusion, and the blue wave followed by the inevitable impeachment of the president responsible for the current reality. And they're talking like it's real, and it's going to happen. 

More likely? LOTS of people involved in what amounts to a coup attempt are going to be exposed and die of natural causes related to old age in a federal prison. 

[Virgil Showlion]

Low joblessness is an artifact of the way joblessness is tallied. The so-called "Part-time Nation" phenomenon and Baby Boomers' inability to retire are also contributing. Under the hood, job metrics are mediocre, and have been realized at enormous expense, no different than during Pres. Obama's tenure.

Total productive output--which is where the rubber hits the road--is barely moving (if you trust the Fed) or stagnant (if you know how to do math).

It's not Pres. Trump's fault, but neither is it to his credit.

[happyhoix]

May 3, 2018 10:41:03 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Over here in reality, we're seeing the fewest people receiving unemployment benefits since 1973, lower than expected jobless claims, the lowest African-American unemployment since records have been kept, and the lowest overall unemployment since the Clinton administration. Over here in reality, we're seeing the systematic annihilation of ISIS, and the end of a 65 year state of war with North Korea, the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula, and the release of American detainees. Meanwhile in the Trump Derangement Syndrome bubble we're looking at payments to lawyers who paid Stormy Daniels, delusions of Russian collusion, and the blue wave followed by the inevitable impeachment of the president responsible for the current reality. And they're talking like it's real, and it's going to happen. 

More likely? LOTS of people involved in what amounts to a coup attempt are going to be exposed and die of natural causes related to old age in a federal prison. 

 Actually, I suspect you aren't really reporting to us from reality....

You never answered my question about Trump's corrupt appointees and pals, the ones who can't stay out of the media due to their blatant greed. Over there where you live, is that considered just standard procedures for politicians? Because over here, it's frowned on, to the point it might overshadow any positive things Trump can accomplish.

 

[djAdvocate]

May 3, 2018 6:50:20 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

Apr 27, 2018 14:51:24 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Rush is right to a degree.  the police have very poor policing.  and i have no problem fixing that.  but that is not what he is talking about doing, really.  what he is talking about doing is protecting lawbreakers from prosecution.

yeah, i know.  he doesn't view it that way.  but that is because feelings are the new facts on the right.

Lol, reminds me of that Gingrich tape where when confronted by facts contrary to his narrative just went with if people feel it's more than it is.

then it won't surprise you to learn that this is PRECISELY where i got that "quote" from (bold above).

[djAdvocate]

May 3, 2018 11:46:47 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

May 3, 2018 10:41:03 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Over here in reality, we're seeing the fewest people receiving unemployment benefits since 1973,

 

then perhaps it is time to shove two numbers which you simply could not get enough of 2 years ago back in your face:

Labor Force Participation is at 62.7%, unchanged since Trump took office.
the number of US Citizens not in the labor force is now 1M persons higher than when Trump arrived.

what will you tell us when the deficit tops $1T?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

IMPORTANT – Michael Caputo Explains How Clinton-Mueller Legal Attack Dogs Used the FISA Title-One Surveillance Warrant…
Posted on May 3, 2018 by sundance
NOW IT ALL COMES TOGETHER…



Michael Caputo appears on Fox News for a general discussion of his third experience being grilled by Hillary Clinton’s Legal Team within the Clinton-Mueller Special Counsel.

However, one of the interesting bits of information is where Mr. Caputo notes the Clinton-Mueller team have the personal emails, phone call logs, communications and even text messages of every targeted member of the investigation. This little factoid is jaw-dropping important because it highlights the underlying reason why Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein needed to grant a July 2017 extension of the Title-1 FISA surveillance warrant (initiated against Carter Page); that was actually being utilized by the FBI to conduct political surveillance of these same Trump officials.

Without the July 2017 FISA extension, Robert Mueller would not have predicate investigative authority to reach into the accounts of his targets and extract their personal communication. Mueller would have needed to go to court for a search warrant; he is conducting a criminal investigation; he would have needed probable cause. However, by applying the 2016 extended FISA Title-1 warrant, the Clinton-Mueller special counsel used the previous legal authority to extract all the information they wanted to review.

Things are making much more sense now.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

“Let me be clear, Mr. President. How can you drain the swamp if you’re the one that keeps muddying the waters? You didn’t know about that $130,000 payment to a porn star till you did,” Cavuto said. “You acknowledged today you were the guy behind the retainer payment that took care of this. You insist that money from the campaign or campaign contributions played no role in this transaction. Of that you’re sure. The thing is, not 24 hours ago, sir, you couldn’t recall any of this.” “I guess you’re too busy draining the swamp to ever stop and smell the stink you’re creating,” Cavuto concluded. “That’s your doing. That’s your stink, Mr. President, that’s your swamp. Goodnight.”

slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/is-the-trump-fox-news-wall-street-journal-unholy-alliance-starting-to-crack-under-the-presidents-lies.html

Losing fox news?

[happyhoix]

So we're calling it the Hillary Clinton-Mueller Special Council now?

Very nice piece of right wing propaganda. If you've got a formidable problem, link it to all your best bogeymen in the public's mind, and hope they fall for it.

Next, it will be the Hillary Clinton-Mueller Special Anti-Gun Freedom Council.

 

Or the Hillary Clinton-Mueller Special Anti-Christian, pro Muslim Antifa Council.

 

[Opti]

Seems to me someone was just posting about the end of hyper-politicizing everything. Man in the Mirror, baby. Man in the Mirror.

[Tennesseer]

We have listened more than enough.

[Opti]

May 4, 2018 6:48:55 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

So we're calling it the Hillary Clinton-Mueller Special Council now?

Very nice piece of right wing propaganda. If you've got a formidable problem, link it to all your best bogeymen in the public's mind, and hope they fall for it.

Next, it will be the Hillary Clinton-Mueller Special Anti-Gun Freedom Council.

 

Or the Hillary Clinton-Mueller Special Anti-Christian, pro Muslim Antifa Council.

 

I hope by "we", you mean crazy RW people who love to hyper-politicize and be inaccurate about things.

I remember various people going on and on about how Trump won. Along with that idea, is the reality Hillary Clinton is not part of the federal government. She wasn't there when Mueller got tasked with the investigation. Linking her with Mueller is a dishonest hyper-politicking move.

I'm somewhat amazed you read even part of that post. To me large fonts, bright bold colors are a huge scam alert. Warning! Scam selling ahead... we are trying to convince you this is important, necessary, and something to pay attention to right now or you will miss out. It hurts my eyes as do many conservative political and celeb tell all websites do.

[Tennesseer]

May 4, 2018 0:51:54 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

“Let me be clear, Mr. President. How can you drain the swamp if you’re the one that keeps muddying the waters? You didn’t know about that $130,000 payment to a porn star till you did,” Cavuto said. “You acknowledged today you were the guy behind the retainer payment that took care of this. You insist that money from the campaign or campaign contributions played no role in this transaction. Of that you’re sure. The thing is, not 24 hours ago, sir, you couldn’t recall any of this.” “I guess you’re too busy draining the swamp to ever stop and smell the stink you’re creating,” Cavuto concluded. “That’s your doing. That’s your stink, Mr. President, that’s your swamp. Goodnight.”

slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/is-the-trump-fox-news-wall-street-journal-unholy-alliance-starting-to-crack-under-the-presidents-lies.html

Losing fox news?

Neil Cavuto didn't go far enough. But I suppose it is a start.

[Wisconsin Beth]

I'm told Wall Street Journal ran an opinion piece against trump too.

[djAdvocate]

May 4, 2018 9:05:04 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

We have listened more than enough.

and our listening has lead us to the conclusion that the right is full of shit and in serious trouble.

[djAdvocate]

May 4, 2018 9:53:51 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

I'm told Wall Street Journal ran an opinion piece against trump too.

they still have a liberal or two working for them.

[happyhoix]

May 4, 2018 9:53:51 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

I'm told Wall Street Journal ran an opinion piece against trump too.

But Kayne LOVES Trump now!

So everything is about to break lose into a Trump love-fest.

[Tennesseer]

May 4, 2018 10:48:16 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

May 4, 2018 9:53:51 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

I'm told Wall Street Journal ran an opinion piece against trump too.

But Kayne LOVES Trump now!

So everything is about to break lose into a Trump love-fest.

It's all that Dragon Energy floating around.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

May 4, 2018 10:46:13 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 4, 2018 9:05:04 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

We have listened more than enough.

and our listening has lead us to the conclusion that the right is full of shit and in serious trouble.

I've becoming increasingly liberal over the past 10 years. Because I have been listening


As I've related previously, my family is very conservative and I was not as conservative as they. But I am definitely sliding more left these days. 

[djAdvocate]

May 4, 2018 11:09:39 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

May 4, 2018 10:46:13 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

and our listening has lead us to the conclusion that the right is full of shit and in serious trouble.

I've becoming increasingly liberal over the past 10 years. Because I have been listening


As I've related previously, my family is very conservative and I was not as conservative as they. But I am definitely sliding more left these days. 

i was raised by an extremely strict, conservative parent.  i grew steadily more conservative until BUSH2.  however, the Iraq War put an extremely bad taste in my mouth, and i have been moving left ever since.  that is 15 years, now.  i switched from Republican to "unaffiliated" after the last election.