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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 29, 2018 22:14:13 GMT -5
A curve ball is technique. Not a violation of the rules of the game. Throwing curve balls and winning the game fair and square aren't mutually exclusive. And when you telegraph your pitch and leave a hanging curve ball over the middle of the plate, it isn't a violation for it to be hit on a line right back up the middle. You all wish. Enjoy the Mittmentum memory-- from Trump on out, I'm dangerously right. And loving it.
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Post by dondub on Jan 29, 2018 22:16:30 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 29, 2018 22:17:50 GMT -5
Sara Carter is saying that McCabe may be under investigation by the IG for changing 302s. It will be interesting if that pans out. NY Times reported that it was something the IG had that made Wray force McCabe to step down. The upshot of the "memo" from my understanding is that the FBI knowingly used the unverified salacious 'dossier' which McCabe himself described to Prebus as "bullshit" (when he baited Prebus into asking to make that statement publicly-- and then claimed, falsely, the Prebus approached him and asked him to publicly state the 'dossier' was unverified crap). If so-- if they presented the unverified 'dossier' to the FISA court without mentioning that it was the work product of Russian agents hired by the DNC and the Clinton Campaign-- and none of it had been verified? Well, that is big trouble indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 22:28:28 GMT -5
And when you telegraph your pitch and leave a hanging curve ball over the middle of the plate, it isn't a violation for it to be hit on a line right back up the middle. You all wish. Enjoy the Mittmentum memory-- from Trump on out, I'm dangerously right. And loving it. Not right, but surely dangerous.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 29, 2018 22:39:51 GMT -5
You all wish. Enjoy the Mittmentum memory-- from Trump on out, I'm dangerously right. And loving it. Not right, but surely dangerous. as a friend from college was fond of saying "there's still time to fail".
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 29, 2018 23:32:32 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 29, 2018 23:33:42 GMT -5
Righty-o!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 29, 2018 23:35:00 GMT -5
The upshot of the "memo" from my understanding is that the FBI knowingly used the unverified salacious 'dossier' which McCabe himself described to Prebus as "bullshit" (when he baited Prebus into asking to make that statement publicly-- and then claimed, falsely, the Prebus approached him and asked him to publicly state the 'dossier' was unverified crap). If so-- if they presented the unverified 'dossier' to the FISA court without mentioning that it was the work product of Russian agents hired by the DNC and the Clinton Campaign-- and none of it had been verified? Well, that is big trouble indeed. Do you think that it contains information from the PDBs? Your earlier comment about watching CNN reminded me of a recent study. They followed people as they read news by tracking every click. As it turns out the people most likely to read fake news were hyperconsumer of information. They tended to read every source on a topic. Dan Bongino does.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 29, 2018 23:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 29, 2018 23:46:44 GMT -5
Righty-o!
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Interesting hands on Homer.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 30, 2018 0:23:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 1:58:42 GMT -5
Ah, quotes from the nuttree page and a meme making fun of retarded people. Really classy there Windy. As usual, insult, deflect and gaslight.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 30, 2018 8:20:32 GMT -5
Sara Carter is saying that McCabe may be under investigation by the IG for changing 302s. It will be interesting if that pans out. NY Times reported that it was something the IG had that made Wray force McCabe to step down. The upshot of the "memo" from my understanding is that the FBI knowingly used the unverified salacious 'dossier' which McCabe himself described to Prebus as "bullshit" (when he baited Prebus into asking to make that statement publicly-- and then claimed, falsely, the Prebus approached him and asked him to publicly state the 'dossier' was unverified crap). If so-- if they presented the unverified 'dossier' to the FISA court without mentioning that it was the work product of Russian agents hired by the DNC and the Clinton Campaign-- and none of it had been verified? Well, that is big trouble indeed. My understanding of the 'memo' is that it is cherry picked information put together by Nunes aids to attempt to discredit the dossier and therefore the Mueller investigation, because they believe the Mueller investigation is only looking at the contents of the dossier. A GOP propaganda piece.
The Dems have put together their own memo to refute, point by point, the items from the GOP memo, but the American public won't get to see the Dem memo because the same committee that voted to release the GOP memo voted on party lines to suppress the Dem memo.
Personally I would prefer neither the GOP or the Dems memo would be released, as both will be very biased. I prefer to just wait for Mueller to release the findings for his investigation and then let the American public decide from there. The fact that the GOP just can't wait, and is releasing their own memo against the very strong advice of the DOJ, makes me even more suspicious that the Mueller investigation has uncovered something that Trump hopes desperately to convince the American public is false.
www.npr.org/2018/01/29/581718405/intel-committee-votes-to-release-secret-gop-memo-withhold-democrats-rebuttal
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 30, 2018 9:03:26 GMT -5
Personally I would prefer neither the GOP or the Dems memo would be released, as both will be very biased. I prefer to just wait for Mueller to release the findings for his investigation and then let the American public decide from there. Why so much faith in the impartiality of the Mueller investigation when you lack faith in the impartiality of both parties? Just because he's the best you've got?
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 30, 2018 9:42:13 GMT -5
Personally I would prefer neither the GOP or the Dems memo would be released, as both will be very biased. I prefer to just wait for Mueller to release the findings for his investigation and then let the American public decide from there. Why so much faith in the impartiality of the Mueller investigation when you lack faith in the impartiality of both parties? Just because he's the best you've got? Where did I say I had faith in his findings?
I want to see their final report, read it, and decide on my own what I think about it. I've got fair reading comprehension skills, I think I can make up my mind if the report appears to be creditable or biased and if the findings are worthy of concern or petty.
I don't appreciate all the anti-Mueller and anti-FBI chatter the GOP is spewing even before the Mueller report is released. I think it's disrespectful for all the agents who work so hard to protect our country to have the GOP and the president denigrating them by claiming they are completely corrupt Hillary puppets based on nothing more than 'dark conspiracy' fears from far right talking heads.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 30, 2018 9:57:14 GMT -5
I want to see their final report, read it, and decide on my own what I think about it. I've got fair reading comprehension skills, I think I can make up my mind if the report appears to be creditable or biased and if the findings are worthy of concern or petty. OK, but why wouldn't this same standard apply to the GOP and Dem reports? Obviously there's some difference between Mr. Mueller's report and the GOP/Dem committee reports underlying your desire for the former to be released and the latter not to be. If it's not faith in Mueller's impartiality, what is it? Incidentally, FOX is reporting that the House Intelligence Committee has voted to release the Nunes memo, and Pres. Trump is the only one who can stop it from becoming public knowledge now.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 30, 2018 10:28:36 GMT -5
Why so much faith in the impartiality of the Mueller investigation when you lack faith in the impartiality of both parties? Just because he's the best you've got? Where did I say I had faith in his findings?
I want to see their final report, read it, and decide on my own what I think about it. I've got fair reading comprehension skills, I think I can make up my mind if the report appears to be creditable or biased and if the findings are worthy of concern or petty.
I don't appreciate all the anti-Mueller and anti-FBI chatter the GOP is spewing even before the Mueller report is released. I think it's disrespectful for all the agents who work so hard to protect our country to have the GOP and the president denigrating them by claiming they are completely corrupt Hillary puppets based on nothing more than 'dark conspiracy' fears from far right talking heads.
What about those that were in very powerful positions that were "Maybe" skewering the outcome with biased dealings? 10 Ahh Shit! on the top = 10,000 atta boys at the bottom!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 30, 2018 10:31:24 GMT -5
Where did I say I had faith in his findings?
I want to see their final report, read it, and decide on my own what I think about it. I've got fair reading comprehension skills, I think I can make up my mind if the report appears to be creditable or biased and if the findings are worthy of concern or petty.
I don't appreciate all the anti-Mueller and anti-FBI chatter the GOP is spewing even before the Mueller report is released. I think it's disrespectful for all the agents who work so hard to protect our country to have the GOP and the president denigrating them by claiming they are completely corrupt Hillary puppets based on nothing more than 'dark conspiracy' fears from far right talking heads.
What about those that were in very powerful positions that were "Maybe" skewering the outcome with biased dealings? 10 Ahh Shit! on the top = 10,000 atta boys at the bottom!! A lot of people at the top have quit or be demoted, or found something else to do over this.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 30, 2018 12:07:50 GMT -5
Where did I say I had faith in his findings?
I want to see their final report, read it, and decide on my own what I think about it. I've got fair reading comprehension skills, I think I can make up my mind if the report appears to be creditable or biased and if the findings are worthy of concern or petty.
I don't appreciate all the anti-Mueller and anti-FBI chatter the GOP is spewing even before the Mueller report is released. I think it's disrespectful for all the agents who work so hard to protect our country to have the GOP and the president denigrating them by claiming they are completely corrupt Hillary puppets based on nothing more than 'dark conspiracy' fears from far right talking heads.
What about those that were in very powerful positions that were "Maybe" skewering the outcome with biased dealings? 10 Ahh Shit! on the top = 10,000 atta boys at the bottom!! the same accusations were made about Bhengazi, but Obama didn't shut down the investigations.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 30, 2018 12:10:34 GMT -5
What about those that were in very powerful positions that were "Maybe" skewering the outcome with biased dealings? 10 Ahh Shit! on the top = 10,000 atta boys at the bottom!! A lot of people at the top have quit or be demoted, or found something else to do over this. the demotions are also obstruction. you realize that, right?
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 30, 2018 12:25:19 GMT -5
I want to see their final report, read it, and decide on my own what I think about it. I've got fair reading comprehension skills, I think I can make up my mind if the report appears to be creditable or biased and if the findings are worthy of concern or petty. OK, but why wouldn't this same standard apply to the GOP and Dem reports? Obviously there's some difference between Mr. Mueller's report and the GOP/Dem committee reports underlying your desire for the former to be released and the latter not to be. If it's not faith in Mueller's impartiality, what is it? Incidentally, FOX is reporting that the House Intelligence Committee has voted to release the Nunes memo, and Pres. Trump is the only one who can stop it from becoming public knowledge now. The GOP memo is written by very biased GOP congress people who want to protect the president from the Mueller investigation. The Dem memo is written by a very biased group of DEM congress people who wouldn't pee on the president should he be on fire. I don't think EITHER of those memos should be released, because all it will do is further agitate an already overheated political scene, and prompt Trump into tweeting overdrive.
Unlike the far right, I still have faith that the DOJ and FBI are manned by agents who have sworn to protect the country and to be nonpartisan. I trust the DOJ and FBI more than I do congress. Frankly, I wouldn't let Congress hold my handbag if I wanted to try on clothes in the changing room at the mall.
And yes I realize the committee voted to release their memo so Trump can read it and release it - I linked an NPR article to my last post that commented on both that memo and the Dem memo, and as I stated before, my reading comprehension skills are passable. My mother had me tested.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 30, 2018 12:26:55 GMT -5
My understanding of the 'memo' is that it is cherry picked information put together by Nunes aids to attempt to discredit the dossier and therefore the Mueller investigation, because they believe the Mueller investigation is only looking at the contents of the dossier. A GOP propaganda piece.
The Dems have put together their own memo to refute, point by point, the items from the GOP memo, but the American public won't get to see the Dem memo because the same committee that voted to release the GOP memo voted on party lines to suppress the Dem memo.
Personally I would prefer neither the GOP or the Dems memo would be released, as both will be very biased. I prefer to just wait for Mueller to release the findings for his investigation and then let the American public decide from there. The fact that the GOP just can't wait, and is releasing their own memo against the very strong advice of the DOJ, makes me even more suspicious that the Mueller investigation has uncovered something that Trump hopes desperately to convince the American public is false.
www.npr.org/2018/01/29/581718405/intel-committee-votes-to-release-secret-gop-memo-withhold-democrats-rebuttal
They didn't vote to suppress the memo. They voted to have the House read it before voting to release. It's going through the same process as the Nunes memo. No one has had a chance to read the Schiff memo. The funny thing is that the Dems did actually vote against the release of the Nunes memo, both to the House and to the larger public. The Democrats need to figure out their message. why give it to the House? why not have it vetted by people who actually know something, like the intelligence agencies? so, you are handing a politically motivated memo to a bunch of politicians, and expecting what result? this whole thing stinks, imo.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 30, 2018 13:23:22 GMT -5
You all wish. Enjoy the Mittmentum memory-- from Trump on out, I'm dangerously right. And loving it. Not right, but surely dangerous. Dangerous is the most important. It means effective.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 30, 2018 13:24:25 GMT -5
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Post by dondub on Jan 30, 2018 13:29:38 GMT -5
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 30, 2018 13:35:08 GMT -5
They didn't vote to suppress the memo. They voted to have the House read it before voting to release. It's going through the same process as the Nunes memo. No one has had a chance to read the Schiff memo. The funny thing is that the Dems did actually vote against the release of the Nunes memo, both to the House and to the larger public. The Democrats need to figure out their message. why give it to the House? why not have it vetted by people who actually know something, like the intelligence agencies? so, you are handing a politically motivated memo to a bunch of politicians, and expecting what result? this whole thing stinks, imo. Isn't the memo about the corruption in the intelligence agencies? So, giving them the memo is giving the fox a hen, right? Right now, I don't see any real evidence that there is systemic corruption. I doubt the memo will change my mind.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 30, 2018 13:46:34 GMT -5
why give it to the House? why not have it vetted by people who actually know something, like the intelligence agencies? so, you are handing a politically motivated memo to a bunch of politicians, and expecting what result? this whole thing stinks, imo. Isn't the memo about the corruption in the intelligence agencies? So, giving them the memo is giving the fox a hen, right? Right now, I don't see any real evidence that there is systemic corruption. I doubt the memo will change my mind. not if you want to screen it for state secrets. and there is more than one intelligence agency.
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Post by dezii on Jan 31, 2018 11:20:15 GMT -5
"Once again, on yet another topic, the GOP now loses all credibility - " I am suggesting they lost all credibility a long time ago...this is just one more arrow in the quiver..
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