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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 26, 2018 21:16:12 GMT -5
Shoot them down with the Stinger missile you were allowed to buy under the second amendment. Fluffy just took out two of the copters.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2018 21:32:59 GMT -5
HAM';s are mostly conservative, ime. would you not agree, ken? I think I'm considered a progressive. What's your experience? wife. FIL. a friend or two. super fucking conservative. like....Alex Jones conservative.
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Post by steff on Jan 26, 2018 21:34:44 GMT -5
I KNEW my compound panic idea early on after the election wasn't a stupid idea!
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2018 21:34:57 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war. Aren't you violating your top secret clearance? he just needs to twist his secret spy ring and everything will be ok.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2018 9:13:41 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war. Why would you even declare such a theory, tying yourself to it in a sense, risking major embarrassment, if you can't provide a source and can't verify it? I'm one of the more open-minded members here when it comes to this "secret society" conspiracy theory, but even I read this 300 megaton bomb of a post and immediately wondered "Was it Big Bird or Grover who tipped him off this time?" For the love of conservatism, wait until you can verify these things. Don't cry 'wolf'. I could post that the sky is blue here and the lefties would view it as a major embarrassment. That's the thing about the off the rails leftist attacking me over every little thing. I am now free to say whatever I want, and I can't lose any credibility.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2018 9:17:28 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2018 9:26:08 GMT -5
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 27, 2018 9:56:02 GMT -5
Why would you even declare such a theory, tying yourself to it in a sense, risking major embarrassment, if you can't provide a source and can't verify it? I'm one of the more open-minded members here when it comes to this "secret society" conspiracy theory, but even I read this 300 megaton bomb of a post and immediately wondered "Was it Big Bird or Grover who tipped him off this time?" For the love of conservatism, wait until you can verify these things. Don't cry 'wolf'. I could post that the sky is blue here and the lefties would view it as a major embarrassment. That's the thing about the off the rails leftist attacking me over every little thing. I am now free to say whatever I want, and I can't lose any credibility. I suppose you're right. I've exercised restraint over the years, and often told I lack all credibility in spite of it, so on one hand I see your point. On the other hand, not everybody is an off-the-rails leftist, especially if we look at the readership in addition to the contributorship, and you still can hurt your credibility with bold, failed predictions. Just my $0.02.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2018 10:01:47 GMT -5
The FBI as a whole doesn't seem to understand the concept of oversight. They don't get to pick and choose what's "relevant to understanding the focus of the investigation". Congress is entitled to EVERYTHING, and then Congress alone will decide what's relevant. There does seem to be this attitude within the FBI in particular, but most of government, that Congress is not entitled to know what's going on. They are sorely mistaken. And now, the efforts to conceal "VERY INFLAMMATORY" (not my words) things are going to have them in more hot water than the "VERY imflammatory" things themselves.
There are serious questions here:
1. Mueller Fired Strzok for "anti-Trump bias" , right? How was this determined? And why, at that point, weren't the devices and messages preserved and examined to determine the extent to which "anti-Trump bias" significant enough to warrant removal from the team might have tainted his investigation?
2. One of the functions at the heart of the FBI investigatory skillset is finding such things as text messages which criminals might try to hide- and further, the FBI has a duty to preserve all communications for oversight under the law. So, why did the FBI falsely claim the messages were "missing" when they knew or must have known that even laypeople looking on would know it was a false claim?
There are LOTS, and LOTS, and LOTS of questions- but the biggest one is: Just what the hell is going on in our government? What is the FBI up to? What do they think they're doing? And who is involved?
The facts we have so far are: There is no Trump-Russia collusion. The investigation is bogus, and a fraud on the people. There's an anti-Trump conspiracy within the FBI and DOJ-- Obama and Hillary are at the heart of it, but there are dozens or even hundreds of federal government employees involved. We need to know who they are-- how deep and wide is the cancer within our government, and how far along were they able to get?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2018 10:03:32 GMT -5
In short- it's technique.
If you're here.... and the reality you need to see is here.... I say I'm here and you say....
you say I'm crazy. Obviously the truth is here...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2018 10:04:07 GMT -5
And yes- it DOES work. I sacrifice a little credibility-- not much, given the audience-- making it worth it.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 27, 2018 10:04:31 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2018 10:16:16 GMT -5
For the skeptics and opposition-- it's worth you remembering how utterly wrong you've been and to consider how much of YOUR OWN credibility you have sacrificed by again and again swallowing the spin and spitting it out here.
Remember when the FBI silent coup was exposed in a series of Trump Tweets...
And do you all remember the spin, and your responses on those discussions? Trump was "crazy", he was "paranoid" and that these Tweets were a sign that he was perhaps even mentally unstable and the opposition began talking about the 25th Amendment?
Now we're here- we know that Obama was spying on trump using the FBI which obtained the warrant for spying using an "opposition research" produced "dossier" which the Clinton campaign and the DNC paid Fusion GPS to produce- and they in turn paid Russian agents for the unverified salacious stories. So, Hillary bought and paid for the dossier, gave it to the Obama regime, and they used it as a pretext to spy.
So, not only is Trump obviously right- as he so frequently turns out to be- but there are serious questions about how we got here even before we get to the illegitimate appointment of a special counsel in violation of the statute (there was no crime- Mueller is hunting for one), or the conspiracy now being exposed between FBI agents.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2018 10:17:21 GMT -5
Bottom line: I'm right about the substance in this thread, and the spin is wrong. We can discuss whether it rises to the level of treason or not- but on the whole, I'm right and everyone else is wrong.
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Post by dezii on Jan 27, 2018 10:17:37 GMT -5
The FBI as a whole doesn't seem to understand the concept of oversight. They don't get to pick and choose what's "relevant to understanding the focus of the investigation". Congress is entitled to EVERYTHING, and then Congress alone will decide what's relevant. There does seem to be this attitude within the FBI in particular, but most of government, that Congress is not entitled to know what's going on. They are sorely mistaken. And now, the efforts to conceal "VERY INFLAMMATORY" (not my words) things are going to have them in more hot water than the "VERY imflammatory" things themselves. There are serious questions here: 1. Mueller Fired Strzok for "anti-Trump bias" , right? How was this determined? And why, at that point, weren't the devices and messages preserved and examined to determine the extent to which "anti-Trump bias" significant enough to warrant removal from the team might have tainted his investigation? 2. One of the functions at the heart of the FBI investigatory skillset is finding such things as text messages which criminals might try to hide- and further, the FBI has a duty to preserve all communications for oversight under the law. So, why did the FBI falsely claim the messages were "missing" when they knew or must have known that even laypeople looking on would know it was a false claim? There are LOTS, and LOTS, and LOTS of questions- but the biggest one is: Just what the hell is going on in our government? What is the FBI up to? What do they think they're doing? And who is involved? The facts we have so far are: There is no Trump-Russia collusion. The investigation is bogus, and a fraud on the people. There's an anti-Trump conspiracy within the FBI and DOJ-- Obama and Hillary are at the heart of it, but there are dozens or even hundreds of federal government employees involved. We need to know who they are-- how deep and wide is the cancer within our government, and how far along were they able to get? "There is no Trump-Russia collusion." You have a link for that? I thought the investigation was still on going...u know something the rest of the country does not or are u going on the Donald saying there is no collusion? If so, considering his history on false hood this year, almost 2000 verified...u will understand some reluctance in accepting your claim.
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Post by dezii on Jan 27, 2018 10:21:08 GMT -5
The FBI as a whole doesn't seem to understand the concept of oversight. They don't get to pick and choose what's "relevant to understanding the focus of the investigation". Congress is entitled to EVERYTHING, and then Congress alone will decide what's relevant. There does seem to be this attitude within the FBI in particular, but most of government, that Congress is not entitled to know what's going on. They are sorely mistaken. And now, the efforts to conceal "VERY INFLAMMATORY" (not my words) things are going to have them in more hot water than the "VERY imflammatory" things themselves. There are serious questions here: 1. Mueller Fired Strzok for "anti-Trump bias" , right? How was this determined? And why, at that point, weren't the devices and messages preserved and examined to determine the extent to which "anti-Trump bias" significant enough to warrant removal from the team might have tainted his investigation? 2. One of the functions at the heart of the FBI investigatory skillset is finding such things as text messages which criminals might try to hide- and further, the FBI has a duty to preserve all communications for oversight under the law. So, why did the FBI falsely claim the messages were "missing" when they knew or must have known that even laypeople looking on would know it was a false claim? There are LOTS, and LOTS, and LOTS of questions- but the biggest one is: Just what the hell is going on in our government? What is the FBI up to? What do they think they're doing? And who is involved? The facts we have so far are: There is no Trump-Russia collusion. The investigation is bogus, and a fraud on the people. There's an anti-Trump conspiracy within the FBI and DOJ-- Obama and Hillary are at the heart of it, but there are dozens or even hundreds of federal government employees involved. We need to know who they are-- how deep and wide is the cancer within our government, and how far along were they able to get? ........ ..................
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Post by dezii on Jan 27, 2018 10:22:13 GMT -5
Bottom line: I'm right about the substance in this thread, and the spin is wrong. We can discuss whether it rises to the level of treason or not- but on the whole, I'm right and everyone else is wrong.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 27, 2018 10:27:46 GMT -5
... We can discuss whether it rises to the level of treason or not- ... This is the first I have read you suggest there was room for discussion on this issue. Your previous stance was the absolute need for military tribunals and firing squads. And yes, I understand the technique.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 27, 2018 10:35:23 GMT -5
Why would you even declare such a theory, tying yourself to it in a sense, risking major embarrassment, if you can't provide a source and can't verify it? I'm one of the more open-minded members here when it comes to this "secret society" conspiracy theory, but even I read this 300 megaton bomb of a post and immediately wondered "Was it Big Bird or Grover who tipped him off this time?" For the love of conservatism, wait until you can verify these things. Don't cry 'wolf'. I could post that the sky is blue here and the lefties would view it as a major embarrassment. That's the thing about the off the rails leftist attacking me over every little thing. I am now free to say whatever I want, and I can't lose any credibility. Try posting something as reasonable as a blue sky, and let's see how we really react. You haven't posted something that isn't outrageous and inflammatory for years.
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Post by swamp on Jan 27, 2018 10:37:36 GMT -5
Why would you even declare such a theory, tying yourself to it in a sense, risking major embarrassment, if you can't provide a source and can't verify it? I'm one of the more open-minded members here when it comes to this "secret society" conspiracy theory, but even I read this 300 megaton bomb of a post and immediately wondered "Was it Big Bird or Grover who tipped him off this time?" For the love of conservatism, wait until you can verify these things. Don't cry 'wolf'. I could post that the sky is blue here and the lefties would view it as a major embarrassment. That's the thing about the off the rails leftist attacking me over every little thing. I am now free to say whatever I want, and I can't lose any credibility.You can't lose what you don't have.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 11:57:04 GMT -5
Jesus, so much gaslighting, I just don't know where to start ....
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 27, 2018 13:33:03 GMT -5
In short- it's technique. If you're here.... and the reality you need to see is here.... I say I'm here and you say....
you say I'm crazy. Obviously the truth is here...
The part of this that I disagree with is "and the reality you need to see is here". What that should state is "where I want you to end up is here". It is the technique many use when attempting to place the "middle" of the political spectrum.
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Post by tallguy on Jan 27, 2018 13:54:50 GMT -5
I could post that the sky is blue here and the lefties would view it as a major embarrassment. That's the thing about the off the rails leftist attacking me over every little thing. I am now free to say whatever I want, and I can't lose any credibility.You can't lose what you don't have. A few days ago it was suggested that 90% was spin. That estimate dramatically understated the case.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 27, 2018 14:08:07 GMT -5
In short- it's technique. If you're here.... and the reality you need to see is here.... I say I'm here and you say....
you say I'm crazy. Obviously the truth is here...
I imagine this works beautifully on chickens and, possibly, profoundly retarded penguins. Sentient beings, however, are not going to be led by the nose through the use of this "technique". Those who believe as you do will form a line and march in lockstep like good little penguins. The rest of us will apply our critical thinking skills on our own, thank you very much.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 27, 2018 14:33:14 GMT -5
In short- it's technique. If you're here.... and the reality you need to see is here.... I say I'm here and you say....
you say I'm crazy. Obviously the truth is here...
I imagine this works beautifully on chickens and, possibly, profoundly retarded penguins. Sentient beings, however, are not going to be led by the nose through the use of this "technique". Those who believe as you do will form a line and march in lockstep like good little penguins. The rest of us will apply our critical thinking skills on our own, thank you very much. Not only does he believe he can manipulate us in this manner, he believes he can tell us he is using this technique and that he will still be able to manipulate us with it. Interesting.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 27, 2018 15:32:54 GMT -5
The FBI as a whole doesn't seem to understand the concept of oversight. They don't get to pick and choose what's "relevant to understanding the focus of the investigation". Congress is entitled to EVERYTHING, and then Congress alone will decide what's relevant. There does seem to be this attitude within the FBI in particular, but most of government, that Congress is not entitled to know what's going on. They are sorely mistaken. And now, the efforts to conceal "VERY INFLAMMATORY" (not my words) things are going to have them in more hot water than the "VERY imflammatory" things themselves. There are serious questions here: 1. Mueller Fired Strzok for "anti-Trump bias" , right? How was this determined? And why, at that point, weren't the devices and messages preserved and examined to determine the extent to which "anti-Trump bias" significant enough to warrant removal from the team might have tainted his investigation? 2. One of the functions at the heart of the FBI investigatory skillset is finding such things as text messages which criminals might try to hide- and further, the FBI has a duty to preserve all communications for oversight under the law. So, why did the FBI falsely claim the messages were "missing" when they knew or must have known that even laypeople looking on would know it was a false claim? There are LOTS, and LOTS, and LOTS of questions- but the biggest one is: Just what the hell is going on in our government? What is the FBI up to? What do they think they're doing? And who is involved? The facts we have so far are: There is no Trump-Russia collusion. The investigation is bogus, and a fraud on the people. There's an anti-Trump conspiracy within the FBI and DOJ-- Obama and Hillary are at the heart of it, but there are dozens or even hundreds of federal government employees involved. We need to know who they are-- how deep and wide is the cancer within our government, and how far along were they able to get? "There is no Trump-Russia collusion." You have a link for that? I thought the investigation was still on going...u know something the rest of the country does not or are u going on the Donald saying there is no collusion? If so, considering his history on false hood this year, almost 2000 verified...u will understand some reluctance in accepting your claim. I don't need a link for that. That's not how accusations work. Not ONE SHRED of evidence exists to suggest that Trump colluded with Russia-- that's what makes the appointment of Mueller illegitimate. The statute calls for a crime. A special prosecutor may not be appointed to go find a crime.
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Post by dezii on Jan 27, 2018 15:46:51 GMT -5
"There is no Trump-Russia collusion." You have a link for that? I thought the investigation was still on going...u know something the rest of the country does not or are u going on the Donald saying there is no collusion? If so, considering his history on false hood this year, almost 2000 verified...u will understand some reluctance in accepting your claim. I don't need a link for that. That's not how accusations work. Not ONE SHRED of evidence exists to suggest that Trump colluded with Russia-- that's what makes the appointment of Mueller illegitimate. The statute calls for a crime. A special prosecutor may not be appointed to go find a crime. Excuse me but it seems your reasoning does not hold water...not wanting to waste a lot of time on this, did a quick google..lots of links on the topic...none that I looked at support your beliefs...Also before looking, had a thought if it was illegal why didn't our Donald fight it harder..In fact forgetting him, why not the GOP itself, not really to their benefit to have their party's POTUS investigated in any way..even our/their Donald. Anyway...this is one link...many more...As said, your thoughts and beliefs seem to be wrong ...so ask again...got some links? ------------------------------------------------ "In the United States, a special prosecutor (or special counsel or independent counsel) is a lawyer appointed to investigate, and potentially prosecute, a particular case of suspected wrongdoing for which a conflict of interest exists for the usual prosecuting authority." ---------------------------------------en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_prosecutor
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