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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 26, 2018 9:48:26 GMT -5
Without going back, here is my summary, right or wrong as I remember. I did go back. Early on Strzok said that he didn't think there was much there. But they continued the investigation. "My gut sence and concern there's no big there there" His and Page's dislike for Trump,, www.politico.com/story/2017/12/12/fbi-agents-trump-mueller-texts-294156The following month, after exchanging more disparaging messages about Trump’s response to Gold Star father Khizr Khan, Page appears to suggest to Strzok that he needs to save the country from Trump. “Maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace,” Page wrote. “I can protect our country at many levels,” Strzok replied. One message suggests that the pair and perhaps other more senior FBI officials were assessing Trump’s chances while at work. “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Strzok wrote to Page in August 2016.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2018 12:03:04 GMT -5
yeah, he doesn't like Trump, but he also doesn't like Sanders:
Recently reassigned Mueller team member and Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) Agent Peter Strzok slammed former Democratic presidential primary candidate Bernie Sanders (I-VT) in recently released text messages.
And so did his alleged mistress, Lisa Page, an FBI attorney.
Page wrote, “I just saw my first Bernie Sander [sic] bumper sticker. Made me want to key the car,” to which Strzok replied:
He’s an idiot like Trump. Figure they cancel each other out.
i am trying to decide if he actually LIKES anyone. until i do, i think this is all smoke up the ass.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2018 13:47:12 GMT -5
Who are the other conspirators with HAM radio licenses? Zero...none. Where are you getting such nonsense? And I am a ham radio operator since 1962. HAM';s are mostly conservative, ime. would you not agree, ken?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 26, 2018 14:36:55 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 26, 2018 14:42:08 GMT -5
This is a MASSIVE scandal-- there are infinite rabbit holes to go down, which is probably actually working in favor of the "palace coup" plotters.
Why would the FBI grant access to FISA-702(16) Queries & FISA-702(17) About Queries top secret raw data to the CrowdStrike, the firm that bleached Hillary Clinton's illegal, unsecure server? What did the FBI hire them to do? What service did they perform for the FBI? The same goes for Fusion GPS.
Oh, and btw- CrowdStrike is the firm that examined the DNC's allegedly "hacked" servers and advised the FBI on them. The FBI itself has STILL not examined the DNC's allegedly hacked servers as the DNC has refused to allow any official government law-enforcement entity to examine the servers. Why is that? They're concerned a foreign government conspired with a presidential candidate to hack their servers, but they're not concerned enough to let law enforcement at the FBI investigate by examining the servers? There's no credible explanation.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 26, 2018 14:45:10 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war.
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Post by dondub on Jan 26, 2018 14:46:50 GMT -5
Tell Alex to stop calling.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 26, 2018 14:52:42 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war. Hmmm.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 26, 2018 14:52:51 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war. Aren't you violating your top secret clearance?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 26, 2018 14:56:48 GMT -5
Zero...none. Where are you getting such nonsense? And I am a ham radio operator since 1962. HAM';s are mostly conservative, ime. would you not agree, ken? I think I'm considered a progressive. What's your experience?
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 26, 2018 15:52:41 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war. Well, as long as you're not pushing some crazy right wing theory like the Dems running a child sex ring out of a pizza joint in DC.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 26, 2018 17:06:16 GMT -5
Three of the conservative media conspiracy theories collapsed this week. First, the 'secret society' in the FBI turned out to be a joke between the FBI agents having an affair. Second, the whole 'suspicious missing texts' dead horse conservative RWM kept flogging really did actually die. The ones that were supposedly so incriminating to the two FBI agents they violated the law to delete them. Turns out, the FBI found out the problem affected thousands of their phones and all the missing texts have been restored. Drat. Third, Nunes' top secret bombshell memo (which the dems who have seen it say is crap) had all it's conclusions refuted. Even Shepard Smith from Fox News says it lacks real substance. www.newsweek.com/fox-news-host-calls-nunes-memo-distraction-791485 If you can't rely on Fox News to get all ass hurt about your conspiracy theory, who can you trust? So now, following in Trumps path of 'if the truth starts to catch up with you, spin harder' we get dark conspiracies where people are getting locked up and sent to holding camps for the duration of the 'coup.' Seems to me that the Trump camp is panicking because Trump has to talk to Mueller, and everyone is terrified that Trump will do one of his usual angry foot-in-mouth comments and they'll all be fucked. Guarantee you Trump Jr is back in some corner of the White House attempting to program some robot Trump avatar they can send in instead, so an adult can control his mouth.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 26, 2018 17:21:57 GMT -5
... we get dark conspiracies where people are getting locked up and sent to holding camps for the duration of the 'coup.' ... WAIT! I am confused now. Is it people who were participating in the 'coup' or people who would stop the 'coup' if free that are locked up?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 26, 2018 17:25:08 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war. Why would you even declare such a theory, tying yourself to it in a sense, risking major embarrassment, if you can't provide a source and can't verify it? I'm one of the more open-minded members here when it comes to this "secret society" conspiracy theory, but even I read this 300 megaton bomb of a post and immediately wondered "Was it Big Bird or Grover who tipped him off this time?" For the love of conservatism, wait until you can verify these things. Don't cry 'wolf'.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 26, 2018 17:26:40 GMT -5
... we get dark conspiracies where people are getting locked up and sent to holding camps for the duration of the 'coup.' ... WAIT! I am confused now. Is it people who were participating in the 'coup' or people who would stop the 'coup' if free that are locked up? I'm sorry, I'm not capable of explaining the mechanics of the coup. I'm not in the secret society that gets the special decoder rings, I'm merely a puzzled outsider watching from the bleachers.
It's kind of like cricket that way. I know there are mallets and white pants involved.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 26, 2018 17:30:43 GMT -5
First, the 'secret society' in the FBI turned out to be a joke between the FBI agents having an affair. Says who? Why is this a "collapsed theory"? It's a collapsed theory if the restored texts don't contain anything incriminating, which hasn't been determined yet. Again, says who? Somehow I doubt anyone will take his word for it. ETA: This isn't even an accurate description. The article makes it clear Mr. Smith is at odds with the rest of FOX, and his comments are worries that the memo might be used to lead Americans to an improper conclusion without proper context. He's basing his assessment on concerns others have expressed, and hasn't read the memo himself. If anything, it makes it sound as though the memo is exceptionally damning, and the war is now over whether this is because it's telling the truth or because it's distorting it.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 26, 2018 17:39:06 GMT -5
... foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, ... I bet they are Communist Islamic Kenyans.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 26, 2018 17:40:26 GMT -5
... foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, ... I bet they are Communist Islamic Kenyans. We got the joke three posts ago, Billis.
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Post by dezii on Jan 26, 2018 17:43:51 GMT -5
Using the FBI as an "insurance policy" in case the election doesn't go the way you think it should is not "bias". It is treason. We know for a fact now that the FBI was working for one party / campaign against the other party / campaign. This agent was not fired for his political opinions. We all have political opinions. He was fired because Mueller was trying desperately not to get caught. The question is: What did Obama know and when did he know it? This was an astonishing look at the Washington elite's contempt for the American people, and their total corruption. Your doing it again, posting untruths to advance your agenda..what ever it is...You have two folks, FBI employees, posting negatives against the Donald, they are not in favor of him but who is besides his base, you and possible a couple more...A mention of a "secret society" in jest in one text and the conservatives and Trump supporters jump on that as a great conspiracy, until they too admit it was not just a jest between two people.. Why u continue to post as u do is beyond me..Just stirs things up and stops rational discussion and why u are allowed to continue is beyond me but not my call. Just going to reply with links and true facts against your posts which are becoming more and more like your mentor, the Donald...not really big on to " tell the truth, the whole truth, so help ones g-d" ---------------------------- Do any of these theories have legs? "The “secret society” theory appears to be crumbling as fast as it materialized. Several news outlets gained access to the full text message this week, revealing that the comment was likely made in jest. "Are you even going to give out your calendars?” Ms Page wrote to Mr Strzok the day after Mr Trump was elected. “Seems kind of depressing. Maybe it should just be the first meeting of the secret society.” After the full text was published, Mr Johnson admitted that it was a “real possibility” that the “secret society” reference was a joke." ----------------------------------------------------- to read complete link click on link below ----------------------------------------- www.yahoo.com/news/lisa-page-peter-strzok-did-211100136.html
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 26, 2018 17:47:15 GMT -5
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Post by dezii on Jan 26, 2018 17:56:15 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war. Why would you even declare such a theory, tying yourself to it in a sense, risking major embarrassment, if you can't provide a source and can't verify it? I'm one of the more open-minded members here when it comes to this "secret society" conspiracy theory, but even I read this 300 megaton bomb of a post and immediately wondered "Was it Big Bird or Grover who tipped him off this time?" For the love of conservatism, wait until you can verify these things. Don't cry 'wolf'. I may be wrong but more and more I subscribe to the theory this poster believes as Herr Goebbels did in the "30's to mid 40's"...[para phrasing] "tell a mistruth long enough and hard enough...after a while the masses will believe it.."
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 26, 2018 18:05:57 GMT -5
First, the 'secret society' in the FBI turned out to be a joke between the FBI agents having an affair. Says who? Why is this a "collapsed theory"? It's a collapsed theory if the restored texts don't contain anything incriminating, which hasn't been determined yet. Again, says who? Somehow I doubt anyone will take his word for it. ETA: This isn't even an accurate description. The article makes it clear Mr. Smith is at odds with the rest of FOX, and his comments are worries that the memo might be used to lead Americans to an improper conclusion without proper context. He's basing his assessment on concerns others have expressed, and hasn't read the memo himself. If anything, it makes it sound as though the memo is exceptionally damning, and the war is now over whether this is because it's telling the truth or because it's distorting it. For the 'secret society' - the senator who pushed that theory earlier in the week admitted it's 'possible' it was a jest. www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/01/25/read-sen-ron-johnsons-evolving-views-whether-theres-secret-society-fbi/1066213001/
For the restored texts, the conspiracy was that these two agents snuck into the server and wiped out tens of thousands of their texts in order to hide their coup plans. This collapsed when the texts came back - proof that they weren't illegally wiped by the dastardly duo - further backed up when it was discovered this happened to thousands of other phones. (Keep in mind, Trump called these missing texts 'one of the biggest stories of all time.') www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/26/580918874/some-missing-fbi-texts-are-recovered-doj-inspector-general-says
I know I won't convince you about the Nunes memo. We'll both have to wait until it's actually released to see if it's got substance, but the top judiciary committee Dem has read it and the source documents and says it's inaccurate. thehill.com/homenews/house/370287-top-house-judiciary-dem-rips-nunes-memo-accusing-fbi-of-bias
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 26, 2018 18:20:06 GMT -5
I bet they are Communist Islamic Kenyans. We got the joke three posts ago, Billis. Okay, I admit it isn't up to the level of posting a bunch of different surveys of board members, but it is my idea of fun.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 26, 2018 19:12:12 GMT -5
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jan 26, 2018 19:12:48 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war. 1) As if you had access to any real players..... 2) when did actual supportive documentation ever mean anything to your diatribes....
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Post by dezii on Jan 26, 2018 19:20:54 GMT -5
By the way, I am not sharing some things as yet because I can't provide a source, and can't verify it. However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war. .......
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 26, 2018 21:04:50 GMT -5
Says who? Why is this a "collapsed theory"? It's a collapsed theory if the restored texts don't contain anything incriminating, which hasn't been determined yet. Again, says who? Somehow I doubt anyone will take his word for it. ETA: This isn't even an accurate description. The article makes it clear Mr. Smith is at odds with the rest of FOX, and his comments are worries that the memo might be used to lead Americans to an improper conclusion without proper context. He's basing his assessment on concerns others have expressed, and hasn't read the memo himself. If anything, it makes it sound as though the memo is exceptionally damning, and the war is now over whether this is because it's telling the truth or because it's distorting it. For the 'secret society' - the senator who pushed that theory earlier in the week admitted it's 'possible' it was a jest. www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/01/25/read-sen-ron-johnsons-evolving-views-whether-theres-secret-society-fbi/1066213001/
For the restored texts, the conspiracy was that these two agents snuck into the server and wiped out tens of thousands of their texts in order to hide their coup plans. This collapsed when the texts came back - proof that they weren't illegally wiped by the dastardly duo - further backed up when it was discovered this happened to thousands of other phones. (Keep in mind, Trump called these missing texts 'one of the biggest stories of all time.') www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/26/580918874/some-missing-fbi-texts-are-recovered-doj-inspector-general-says
I know I won't convince you about the Nunes memo. We'll both have to wait until it's actually released to see if it's got substance, but the top judiciary committee Dem has read it and the source documents and says it's inaccurate. thehill.com/homenews/house/370287-top-house-judiciary-dem-rips-nunes-memo-accusing-fbi-of-bias Hence, "the 'secret society' in the FBI turned out to be a joke between the FBI agents having an affair" translates to "the senator who pushed that theory earlier in the week admitted it's 'possible' it was a jest"; "the whole 'suspicious missing texts' dead horse conservative RWM kept flogging really did actually die" translates to "the texts came back - proof that they weren't illegally wiped by the dastardly duo"; and "Nunes' top secret bombshell memo (which the dems who have seen it say is crap) had all it's conclusions refuted" translates to "the top judiciary committee Dem has read it and the source documents and says it's inaccurate". I knew about all three of the post-translation facts. I figured you might know something I didn't.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 26, 2018 21:07:07 GMT -5
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 26, 2018 21:08:36 GMT -5
I'll be hiding in my bathtub with the cats should anyone need me.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 26, 2018 21:11:06 GMT -5
Shoot them down with the Stinger missile you were allowed to buy under the second amendment.
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