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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 23, 2018 16:17:51 GMT -5
Did Paul actually hang his hat on a prediction she'd die? He's not squeamish about making wacky predictions, so "hang his hat" would have to be something like "Mark my words: HRC will be dead by August 10. Don't doubt me. Ever." Not just posting an article and saying "This could happen." or "This will probably happen.", which is the Paulian equivalent of "I sincerely hope this will happen, but I don't really expect it to." paul's good friend at Newsmax told him so and he reported it to us. I found it: ymam.proboards.com/post/2534059/threadThe article was for Newswire. You get partial credit. Paul says "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain." and talks about the inevitability of death in terminal Parkinson's patients. It's more definite than "This will probably happen." but still not what I would call him 'hanging his hat' on the prediction.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 23, 2018 16:22:02 GMT -5
Are we going to start a truthiness chart now? Which ranks higher, mark my words or Don't doubt me. Ever?
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Post by tallguy on Jan 23, 2018 16:33:33 GMT -5
paul's good friend at Newsmax told him so and he reported it to us. I found it: ymam.proboards.com/post/2534059/threadThe article was for Newswire. You get partial credit. Paul says "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain." and talks about the inevitability of death in terminal Parkinson's patients. It's more definite than "This will probably happen." but still not what I would call him 'hanging his hat' on the prediction. Can you put those research skills to further use and find out what Newswire is? i had never heard of it, and the only thing I found in an admittedly quick search was a PR firm who is apparently paid to put out press releases for people or companies. If that is what he is referring to it is even less reputable than the usual trash sources.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2018 16:36:31 GMT -5
Let me put it this way, if the Federal Bureau of Investigation or Special Counsel Muller thinks it's to their credit that they claim they had no clue the chief counterintelligence FBI guy was having an affair with an associate and clogging up cell towers with scores of thousands of tweets and they had no clue they were both on a vendetta to get Trump then they're even stupider than they seem, which is quite an achievement. We're told constantly, even by the execrable Sally Yates, that the slightest moral discrepancy makes one a candidate for blackmail, but nobody was watching the one guy who foreign powers would most want to blackmail, our chief counter-intel guy? Horse shit. This wasn't a simple extra-marital affair between a couple of agents suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. They weren't fired "upon discovery". This was a conspiracy- a cult within the FBI that felt they had the moral high ground and were justified to, by any means necessary, obstruct or remove Trump from office. Now, you've got them discussing how to remove / delete text messages? I think the time has come to seize computers at the FBI, and quarantine agents for questioning. We are witness to the worst abuse of power in our history. Actually, yes, yet it was.
Apparently the reason they weren't fired on discovery is that their work did not appear to reflect a bias against Trump, and their bosses decided the poor judgement to send personal texts on work phones was not, in itself, justification for termination.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be investigated and we should know if they did, in fact, bias anything towards Hillary or against Trump, and if they did, then that would be grounds to terminate them.
Worse abuse of power in our history? We don't know yet. We have nothing but these private texts. But I'm sure the GOP committees are hard at work digging, digging, digging so that they can uncover any little tidbit of real proof, just like they did with the 9 or so Bengazi investigations...
it is actually closer in character to the IRS non-scandal. more #fakenews from congressmen who have so little constructive to do that they are spending their time trying to destroy the only agencies with the potential to bring them down. and make no mistake about it. congress is involved with this one. bigly. i would not be surprised to see CONGRESSMEN in jail over it, if you want to "guarantee" something.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 23, 2018 16:38:20 GMT -5
paul's good friend at Newsmax told him so and he reported it to us. I found it: ymam.proboards.com/post/2534059/threadThe article was for Newswire. You get partial credit. Paul says "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain." and talks about the inevitability of death in terminal Parkinson's patients. It's more definite than "This will probably happen." but still not what I would call him 'hanging his hat' on the prediction. You forgot this from that post: "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- "
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2018 16:40:33 GMT -5
I found it: ymam.proboards.com/post/2534059/threadThe article was for Newswire. You get partial credit. Paul says "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain." and talks about the inevitability of death in terminal Parkinson's patients. It's more definite than "This will probably happen." but still not what I would call him 'hanging his hat' on the prediction. Can you put those research skills to further use and find out what Newswire is? i had never heard of it, and the only thing I found in an admittedly quick search was a PR firm who is apparently paid to put out press releases for people or companies. If that is what he is referring to it is even less reputable than the usual trash sources. this is pure speculation on my part, but i am starting to think a lot of this "news" originates in Russia. the more people believe it, the closer they come to controlling us. which is their objective.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 23, 2018 16:40:55 GMT -5
Are we going to start a truthiness chart now? Which ranks higher, mark my words or Don't doubt me. Ever? Neither. Both express absolute certainty. "...all but certain" implies a marginal but nontrivial degree of uncertainty, which means a great deal when parsing Paul's statements. Think of it like me saying, "I'm all but certain Christians aren't supposed to...". You have to wonder: "If he's hedging even a little bit in a domain where he doesn't hesitate to make assertions with certainty, there must be some significant doubt there." This is my take on it, at any rate.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2018 16:41:28 GMT -5
I found it: ymam.proboards.com/post/2534059/threadThe article was for Newswire. You get partial credit. Paul says "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain." and talks about the inevitability of death in terminal Parkinson's patients. It's more definite than "This will probably happen." but still not what I would call him 'hanging his hat' on the prediction. You forgot this from that post: "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- " selective amnesia. right up there with selective quoting in the arsenal of the terminally untrustworthy.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 23, 2018 16:42:17 GMT -5
I found it: ymam.proboards.com/post/2534059/threadThe article was for Newswire. You get partial credit. Paul says "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain." and talks about the inevitability of death in terminal Parkinson's patients. It's more definite than "This will probably happen." but still not what I would call him 'hanging his hat' on the prediction. You forgot this from that post: "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- " Referring to the friend's prediction, as I see it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 23, 2018 16:45:18 GMT -5
You forgot this from that post: "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- " Referring to the friend's prediction, as I see it. Shall we play 'Oprah 2020?'?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2018 16:49:26 GMT -5
Referring to the friend's prediction, as I see it. right. a prediction in which he felt enough confidence to quote. ever.
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Post by tallguy on Jan 23, 2018 16:50:48 GMT -5
Referring to the friend's prediction, as I see it. Shall we play 'Oprah 2020?'? A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
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Post by Opti on Jan 23, 2018 16:54:34 GMT -5
Shall we play 'Oprah 2020?'? A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess? Much like parts of P&M. The only winning move is to not read. Somehow the board game Crap or Fact seems more appropriate here.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 23, 2018 16:54:39 GMT -5
I found it: ymam.proboards.com/post/2534059/threadThe article was for Newswire. You get partial credit. Paul says "By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain." and talks about the inevitability of death in terminal Parkinson's patients. It's more definite than "This will probably happen." but still not what I would call him 'hanging his hat' on the prediction. Can you put those research skills to further use and find out what Newswire is? i had never heard of it, and the only thing I found in an admittedly quick search was a PR firm who is apparently paid to put out press releases for people or companies. If that is what he is referring to it is even less reputable than the usual trash sources. This would be newswire.com. The more likely candidate is newswire.net, which appears to be a platform for amateur journalists, like slate.com, vox.com, etc. These kinds of sites are neither what I'd call "reputable" or "disreputable", in the same way I wouldn't call YMAM "reputable" or "disreputable". They're aggregate forums for opinion. Somewhere an M.D. could post an opinion piece about Ms. Clinton's symptoms in 2016 and make a case for Parkinson's disease. We're no strangers to articles from Slate and Vox being cited here on P/CE. They're hit or miss.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 23, 2018 17:27:03 GMT -5
Bannon promised to work for Trump when he left the WH. He's at Breitbart. Is it possible he and Trump are concerned Trump or Jr. or someone from the administration will be charged with Treason? Is this a pre-emptive don't look here strike courtesy of Bannon and the shit spinners?
We're way past spin.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 23, 2018 17:29:54 GMT -5
Let me put it this way, if the Federal Bureau of Investigation or Special Counsel Muller thinks it's to their credit that they claim they had no clue the chief counterintelligence FBI guy was having an affair with an associate and clogging up cell towers with scores of thousands of tweets and they had no clue they were both on a vendetta to get Trump then they're even stupider than they seem, which is quite an achievement. We're told constantly, even by the execrable Sally Yates, that the slightest moral discrepancy makes one a candidate for blackmail, but nobody was watching the one guy who foreign powers would most want to blackmail, our chief counter-intel guy? Horse shit. This wasn't a simple extra-marital affair between a couple of agents suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. They weren't fired "upon discovery". This was a conspiracy- a cult within the FBI that felt they had the moral high ground and were justified to, by any means necessary, obstruct or remove Trump from office. Now, you've got them discussing how to remove / delete text messages? I think the time has come to seize computers at the FBI, and quarantine agents for questioning. We are witness to the worst abuse of power in our history. Actually, yes, yet it was.
Apparently the reason they weren't fired on discovery is that their work did not appear to reflect a bias against Trump, and their bosses decided the poor judgement to send personal texts on work phones was not, in itself, justification for termination.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be investigated and we should know if they did, in fact, bias anything towards Hillary or against Trump, and if they did, then that would be grounds to terminate them.
Worse abuse of power in our history? We don't know yet. We have nothing but these private texts. But I'm sure the GOP committees are hard at work digging, digging, digging so that they can uncover any little tidbit of real proof, just like they did with the 9 or so Bengazi investigations...
Wrong. They weren't discovered from within. Mueller & Co KNEW, and they got CAUGHT. And this keystone cops routine about losing text messages is more obstruction of justice. legalinsurrection.com/2018/01/loretta-lynch-bill-clinton-tarmac-meeting-now-makes-sense-it-was-the-end-not-the-beginning/
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 23, 2018 17:32:17 GMT -5
Can you put those research skills to further use and find out what Newswire is? i had never heard of it, and the only thing I found in an admittedly quick search was a PR firm who is apparently paid to put out press releases for people or companies. If that is what he is referring to it is even less reputable than the usual trash sources. this is pure speculation on my part, but i am starting to think a lot of this "news" originates in Russia. the more people believe it, the closer they come to controlling us. which is their objective. Lol!
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Post by tallguy on Jan 23, 2018 18:09:34 GMT -5
Can you put those research skills to further use and find out what Newswire is? i had never heard of it, and the only thing I found in an admittedly quick search was a PR firm who is apparently paid to put out press releases for people or companies. If that is what he is referring to it is even less reputable than the usual trash sources. This would be newswire.com. The more likely candidate is newswire.net, which appears to be a platform for amateur journalists, like slate.com, vox.com, etc. These kinds of sites are neither what I'd call "reputable" or "disreputable", in the same way I wouldn't call YMAM "reputable" or "disreputable". They're aggregate forums for opinion. Somewhere an M.D. could post an opinion piece about Ms. Clinton's symptoms in 2016 and make a case for Parkinson's disease. We're no strangers to articles from Slate and Vox being cited here on P/CE. They're hit or miss. Thanks. According to their directory they only allow professional journalists and public relations professionals to publish on the Newswire site, but public users can create their own accounts and share both through Newswire and most social media sites. Judging from some of the articles on their site, their designation of "professional" does not come with a lot of stringent requirements. "Did you ever get paid for writing anything? You did? Congratulations!" Something like that?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2018 18:15:38 GMT -5
Slate is a bastion of journalism compared to conservativeshithouse.
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Can you put those research skills to further use and find out what Newswire is? i had never heard of it, and the only thing I found in an admittedly quick search was a PR firm who is apparently paid to put out press releases for people or companies. If that is what he is referring to it is even less reputable than the usual trash sources. this is pure speculation on my part, but i am starting to think a lot of this "news" originates in Russia. the more people believe it, the closer they come to controlling us. which is their objective. Schiff agrees with you. It's the Russians again. ymam.proboards.com/post/2799642/quote/55060?page=17
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 23, 2018 19:12:38 GMT -5
Senator Johnson just said they have a whistleblower who told them about the secret society meetings. Of course that's somewhat useless without knowing what the secret society was about. Whistleblower is interesting though. *sigh* Let's just burn through these: Paul: Another bullet in the guns of the officers in the firing squad! The noose is tightening around the neck of the Hillary Clinton Society! A noose in the shape of a bullet! Tenn: It's the colonel's secret recipe club! LOLOLOLOL Happy: With secret sauce! LOLOLOLOL Optimist: Grrrr! Who's your source? Breitbart? FOX? The WSJ? The AP? Tell me so I can list all the reasons they're rotting rotten liars! DJ: ... ... *breathing deeply through clenched teeth, literally paralyzed with rage* mmhmm: Interesting, but possibly doesn't mean anything. Maybe it doesn't not mean anything. Does anything mean anything about something? Maybe. Nobody knows. Maybe someday we'll find out something is something, maybe, even though it doesn't matter. Virgil: (Not my President. Don't give a snow leopard's white fanny. But look at all this rich data I'm getting for my study on political psychosis in America! ) Don: I see the word "useless" was used.
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Post by dondub on Jan 23, 2018 19:15:07 GMT -5
Post 501 in a nutshell.
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Post by Opti on Jan 23, 2018 19:22:59 GMT -5
Senator Johnson just said they have a whistleblower who told them about the secret society meetings. Of course that's somewhat useless without knowing what the secret society was about. Whistleblower is interesting though. OK Virgil is somewhat right. Where did this happen, how do you know? I Googled and did not find anything.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 23, 2018 19:30:26 GMT -5
Senator Johnson just said they have a whistleblower who told them about the secret society meetings. Of course that's somewhat useless without knowing what the secret society was about. Whistleblower is interesting though. *sigh* Let's just burn through these: Paul: Another bullet in the guns of the officers in the firing squad! The noose is tightening around the neck of the Hillary Clinton Society! A noose in the shape of a bullet! Tenn: It's the colonel's secret recipe club! LOLOLOLOL Happy: With secret sauce! LOLOLOLOL Optimist: Grrrr! Who's your source? Breitbart? FOX? The WSJ? The AP? Tell me so I can list all the reasons they're rotting rotten liars! DJ: ... ... *breathing deeply through clenched teeth, literally paralyzed with rage* mmhmm: Interesting, but possibly doesn't mean anything. Maybe it doesn't not mean anything. Does anything mean anything about something? Maybe. Nobody knows. Maybe someday we'll find out something is something, maybe, even though it doesn't matter. Virgil: (Not my President. Don't give a snow leopard's white fanny. But look at all this rich data I'm getting for my study on political psychosis in America! ) Don: I see the word "useless" was used. Hey, what about me!
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2018 20:12:25 GMT -5
DJ: ... ... *breathing deeply through clenched teeth, literally paralyzed with rage* Hey, what about me! Virgil Showlion: LOL! no. i am utterly relaxed. and you know why. or you should. in addition, i am utterly unattached to what happens in the next few years with only ONE exception: anything that impairs my ability to move. here is a short list: 1) descimating the dollar 2) nuclear war 3) a second real estate crash 4) barbed wire camps for liberals that is about it. anything NOT on that list doesn't concern me. want to coronate Trump and publicly crucify Mueller? have at it. just don't do any of the above list. so, no. i am closer to laughing about all of this than "clinching". and again: you absolutely suck at guessing. so, just take whatever you are guessing about me, and guess the opposite, and go with that. or continue to swim in the inky darkness of your own delusions. your choice.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2018 20:16:36 GMT -5
this is pure speculation on my part, but i am starting to think a lot of this "news" originates in Russia. the more people believe it, the closer they come to controlling us. which is their objective. Schiff agrees with you. It's the Russians again. ymam.proboards.com/post/2799642/quote/55060?page=17for some reason i can't see the video, so i am not sure whether you were being sarcastic or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 21:05:02 GMT -5
for some reason i can't see the video, so i am not sure whether you were being sarcastic or not. No. He thinks Russian bots were piling on the release the memo hashtag. I don't know why the video won't show up. I tried 3 times.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 21:52:57 GMT -5
Thanks! I thought the bots were messing with me.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2018 22:24:12 GMT -5
We're way past spin.
90% of what you post is "spin". but i would agree with you: WE are past it. you, on the other hand, are not.
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