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Post by thyme4change on Jan 23, 2018 23:47:16 GMT -5
Didn't the Supreme Court rule firing squads unconstitutional a few years ago?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 24, 2018 0:29:58 GMT -5
Didn't the Supreme Court rule firing squads unconstitutional a few years ago? It's still legal in a couple of states if death by lethal injection does not work.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 24, 2018 9:50:12 GMT -5
for some reason i can't see the video, so i am not sure whether you were being sarcastic or not. No. He thinks Russian bots were piling on the release the memo hashtag. I don't know why the video won't show up. I tried 3 times. Russians are shit stirrers. Seeing some Americans trying to destroy the faith of other Americans in our legal institutions has to be like catnip to them. Of course they are using their newfangled bots to try to encourage that.
Like cockfighting, only they get to eat whatever chicken parts are left over, and then go shoot some more of their journalists.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 24, 2018 10:07:36 GMT -5
No. He thinks Russian bots were piling on the release the memo hashtag. I don't know why the video won't show up. I tried 3 times. Russians are shit stirrers. Seeing some Americans trying to destroy the faith of other Americans in our legal institutions has to be like catnip to them. Of course they are using their newfangled bots to try to encourage that.
Like cockfighting, only they get to eat whatever chicken parts are left over, and then go shoot some more of their journalists. The "Russian bots" story is a bugbear created by hypocritical politicians. ibid.: a knowledgeable source says that Twitter’s internal analysis has thus far found that authentic American accounts, and not Russian imposters or automated bots, are driving #ReleaseTheMemo. There are no preliminary indications that the Twitter activity either driving the hashtag or engaging with it is either predominantly Russian.
In short, according to this source, who would not speak to The Daily Beast for attribution, the retweets are coming from inside the country.
The source pointed to influential American users on the right, including Donald Trump Jr., with his 2.49 million followers, pushing the hashtag forward. It’s become a favorite of far-right Republican congressmen, including Steve King, who claimed the still-secret memo shows the FBI was behaving “worse than Watergate” in one viral tweet. Mark Meadows called it an “absolutely shocking” display of “FISA abuses,” referring to a counterintelligence process. Given there countless millions of Twitter bots, I have no doubt some of them are part of Russian psyops. But crying "Russian bots" without proof is the easiest thing in the world to do, and using it as an excuse to demand censorship is an injustice.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 24, 2018 10:15:37 GMT -5
Russians are shit stirrers. Seeing some Americans trying to destroy the faith of other Americans in our legal institutions has to be like catnip to them. Of course they are using their newfangled bots to try to encourage that.
Like cockfighting, only they get to eat whatever chicken parts are left over, and then go shoot some more of their journalists. The "Russian bots" story is a bugbear created by hypocritical politicians. ibid.: a knowledgeable source says that Twitter’s internal analysis has thus far found that authentic American accounts, and not Russian imposters or automated bots, are driving #ReleaseTheMemo. There are no preliminary indications that the Twitter activity either driving the hashtag or engaging with it is either predominantly Russian.
In short, according to this source, who would not speak to The Daily Beast for attribution, the retweets are coming from inside the country.
The source pointed to influential American users on the right, including Donald Trump Jr., with his 2.49 million followers, pushing the hashtag forward. It’s become a favorite of far-right Republican congressmen, including Steve King, who claimed the still-secret memo shows the FBI was behaving “worse than Watergate” in one viral tweet. Mark Meadows called it an “absolutely shocking” display of “FISA abuses,” referring to a counterintelligence process. Given there countless millions of Twitter bots, I have no doubt some of them are part of Russian psyops. But crying "Russian bots" without proof is the easiest thing in the world to do, and using it as an excuse to demand censorship is an injustice. My comment wasn't about this particular campaign alone. I'm just pointing out that Russia is a shit stirrer and I would expect that anything they could do, at any time, to egg on any internal problems we're having, especially using their new social media tool, they'll pile on.
I doubt there is a 100 percent accurate way to trace all these bots down, nor would we care to waste the time to come up with a detailed analysis - let's just assume, moving forward, that social media is tainted and the Russians are jerks.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 24, 2018 12:49:00 GMT -5
Satire from The Borowitz Report White House Doctor Writes Note Saying Trump Too Sick to Talk to Mueller
By Andy Borowitz WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Amid reports that Donald Trump might soon be summoned to appear before Robert Mueller, the White House doctor wrote a note on Wednesday indicating that Trump was too sick to talk to the special counsel. “Donald Trump is not well,” Dr. Ronny Jackson wrote. The doctor’s note offered a laundry list of ailments afflicting Trump, including flu-like symptoms, upset stomach, headaches, dizziness, confusion, and what Jackson called a “wartime foot injury that appears to be acting up.” Jackson acknowledged in the note that his current assessment of Trump’s health was at odds with the robust picture he painted last week, but added, “Every patient is entitled to a second opinion, and this is mine.” Minutes after the White House doctor issued his note, the special counsel responded by indicating that if Trump is too ill to come to Mueller’s office, then Mueller would be “more than happy” to interrogate Trump at his sickbed. The White House doctor, however, quickly rebuffed this offer. “The strain of being under oath and giving truthful answers could kill him,” the doctor said. link
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 24, 2018 13:39:57 GMT -5
just for the record, the FBI is not supposed to be overt, people. it kinda defeats the purpose.
i have no love for secrecy, but it does have a point when you are running an investigation.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 24, 2018 13:55:09 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 24, 2018 14:25:29 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 24, 2018 14:26:11 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 24, 2018 14:26:35 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 24, 2018 14:28:07 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 24, 2018 14:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 24, 2018 14:28:55 GMT -5
sure
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 24, 2018 14:32:27 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 24, 2018 14:36:39 GMT -5
sure. him and the lizard folks.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jan 24, 2018 14:40:07 GMT -5
sure. him and the lizard folks. Hey--I resemble that remark!
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Post by Opti on Jan 24, 2018 15:14:34 GMT -5
What's up with the GOP? They want to release the memo to the President first, the one who may have had Russia influencers on his campaign? There might be a big scandal brewing, but I think it might be a potential cover up by the GOP.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 24, 2018 15:32:35 GMT -5
I forgot: It's Spin Thursday.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 24, 2018 15:42:38 GMT -5
I forgot: It's Spin Thursday. All the Spin days run together anymore, to be honest.
One giant, cyclonic spin crapfest.
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Post by Opti on Jan 24, 2018 15:59:13 GMT -5
Its still Wednesday right? Tenn you are worrying me!
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Post by dondub on Jan 24, 2018 16:15:57 GMT -5
Bongino is trying so hard to find some relevance for himself now that he has lost every election he's entered. Poor schmuck.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 24, 2018 16:44:06 GMT -5
Its still Wednesday right? Tenn you are worrying me! Wednesday, Thursday, Whateverday, it's always spin day here.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 24, 2018 21:33:37 GMT -5
The website cited by Rep. Schiff and Sen. Feinstein: securingdemocracy.gmfus.org/publications/methodology-hamilton-68-dashboardIn a nutshell: it tracks 600 Twitter accounts that serially retweet stories put out by RT and Sputnik. Some unknown number of these may be bots. Take your pick at which is scariest: - Russians have at least 600 Twitter accounts pushing the Russian perspective on world news.
- RT and Sputnik are rapidly becoming the most beloved news outlets in America because they're doing the job the US MSM simply won't do.
- Two of the most powerful politicians in CA aren't happy that the Russians are doing the job the US MSM won't do, and are appealing to Twitter and Facebook to nip the whole thing in the bud.
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Post by steff on Jan 24, 2018 21:38:35 GMT -5
RT is run by the Russian govt. as in state tv. Yeah, they aren't ones I would trust.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 24, 2018 21:48:22 GMT -5
It's not an entirely unmerited label. I'd say roughly half of the "red meat for the right" articles I come across never make it onto YMAM. This is one of the reasons I appreciate Paul's contributions. He's the chief importer of right-of-center perspectives for discussion and criticism.
I think you meant right-OFF-center.........
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 24, 2018 21:52:26 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 24, 2018 22:01:32 GMT -5
If you don't know what the "memo" is, it's essentially underlying information from Senate Judiciary members Lindsay Graham and Chuck Grassley investigators to the DOJ explaining the referral of Christopher Steele, who was paid by the DNC to use Russian agents to fabricate a document which was then very likely used to obtain a previously rejected FISA court warrant to spy on President Trump, for criminal prosecution.
It does indeed seem that there was a "palace coup" environment within the FBI, DOJ, and possibly other elements of the intelligence community. The very best case, ultimate benefit-of-the-doubt scenario at this point is that they spied on Trump and used a phony Russia investigation as a smoke screen to cover it up. At worst, they were trying to actually remove a duly elected President from office. Though the best case scenario would still be the worst scandal in American history.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 24, 2018 22:12:58 GMT -5
RT is run by the Russian govt. as in state tv. Yeah, they aren't ones I would trust. It depends on whether the truth lines up with Russian interests. Corruption in the FBI--especially in a climate where the US intel agencies are deeply involved in Cold War 2.0--is definitely in Russia's interest to broadcast. Do they particularly care about justice in America? No. But if there's corruption in the FBI, and the US MSM is too busy shoveling crap on Pres. Trump to care, the Russians are the best we're going to get. I personally pop in to both RT and Sputnik at least once a week because they publish major news stories the US MSM either won't touch or consistently reports with omissions/distortions. If I used Twitter, I'd probably be classified as a Russian bot.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 25, 2018 3:22:07 GMT -5
RT and Sputnik are rapidly becoming the most beloved news outlets in America because they're doing the job the US MSM simply won't do.
what job might that be? telling outright lies and fabrications designed to undermine democracy? yeah, the MSM won't do that. and i, personally, am grateful for that.
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