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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 21:00:40 GMT -5
So I don't know if it's because I gained so much of my vocabulary through reading, but there are some words I just coded wrong. Some I've corrected over the years. Some I find it hard because I just like how I say it better Anyone else? Calendula, pedagogy and Hermione were all words I read wrong first ...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 21:14:06 GMT -5
One of my earliest memories as a young teacher 43 years ago is mispronouncing the word "poignant." I had never heard anyone say it although I knew exactly what it meant. I pronounced it as "po-ig-nant." When a student corrected me, I somehow had the grace to say, "Thank you. I never knew how it was said." I have several words that still trip me up. Is it fire-y or fear-y. Is it nek-kid or nay-kid? I vote for the former in both cases. One of my favorite grad school memories as an English PhD student was a class in Renaissance drama. I pronounced it as Renaissance the-A-ter. One of the other students finally burst out with "It's the-ah-ter." I told the story to the chairperson where I got my MA. He lived in the same small town. He said, "It's the-A-ter in Alabama. Laugh and tell the guy that there are more of you here than him." He was kidding, and I switched pronunciations. But I still remember the "there are more of you than him."
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 11, 2017 21:27:39 GMT -5
Ramona. I pronounced it with a short o. I loved those books.
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Post by Waffle on Sept 11, 2017 21:37:45 GMT -5
I'm lousy at phonics. I don't understand "fire-y and "fear-y". What word are you talking about? @southernsusana
My cousin recently pointed out that we say the store name Kroger as if it had an s at the end of it.
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Post by alabamagal on Sept 11, 2017 21:49:13 GMT -5
My husband pronounces the L in salmon. That is not even an alternative pronunciation in the dictionary.
I work in engineering and it always bothered me when people from Ireland, maybe other places mispronounced aluminum by adding an extra syllable - aluminium.
I guess I don't have any.
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Post by saveinla on Sept 11, 2017 22:18:14 GMT -5
My husband pronounces the L in salmon. That is not even an alternative pronunciation in the dictionary. I work in engineering and it always bothered me when people from Ireland, maybe other places mispronounced aluminum by adding an extra syllable - aluminium. I guess I don't have any. Aluminum is the American and Canadian spelling for the silver-white metallic element (number 13 on the periodic table) abundant in the earth’s crust. Aluminium is the preferred spelling outside North America. grammarist.com/spelling/aluminium-aluminum/
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 11, 2017 22:24:31 GMT -5
I love how they say aluminium!
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Post by Sharon on Sept 11, 2017 22:25:55 GMT -5
I always have to stop and think or debacle comes out deb-a-cull, not sure why but it just does.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 11, 2017 22:32:45 GMT -5
So I don't know if it's because I gained so much of my vocabulary through reading, but there are some words I just coded wrong. Some I've corrected over the years. Some I find it hard because I just like how I say it better Anyone else? Calendula, pedagogy and Hermione were all words I read wrong first ... When I was much younger, I couldn't pronounce calliope. I pronounced it exactly the way it was written. Come to think of it, I struggled with a lot of words in English. The language makes no sense and has no rules. A GH could sound like an F or a G or have no sound whatsoever. Plurals were puzzling. If it's one house and two houses, why isn't it one mouse and two mouses? If it one goose and two geese, why isn't it one moose and two meese? If it's one fish and two fish, why isn't it one dish and two dish? It made no sense to me at all.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 11, 2017 22:48:52 GMT -5
Ptomaine comes to mind but no longer.
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Post by cktc on Sept 11, 2017 22:53:29 GMT -5
My DH has been on my case lately about how I say anemone. He says I'm adding an extra 'n'. Anemnone? I don't know. I can't hear the difference and he just keeps saying "anemone" every time I ask if I said it right.
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Post by irishpad on Sept 11, 2017 22:57:10 GMT -5
I sure I have some .... will have to think about it.
My mom has one that comes to mind right away. Wash. She adds a "r". Warsh
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Post by wmpeon on Sept 11, 2017 23:00:51 GMT -5
Faux pas. I had my sister in giggles when I pronounced it "fox paws". One of those things I had read often, but hadn't heard in regular conversation.
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Post by msventoux on Sept 11, 2017 23:06:19 GMT -5
There's a ton of words that I'm not certain how to pronounce. So I don't use them. Which makes my written vocabulary much more extensive than my verbal one.
Someone once told me they could always tell who was a voracious reader as a child. The readers have an extensive vocabulary but don't know how to pronounce at least a quarter of it. 😊 They've seen the words repeatedly and can use them properly in a sentence, but have no idea how to pronounce them as they've never actually heard them in conversation.
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Post by Waffle on Sept 11, 2017 23:15:16 GMT -5
I sure I have some .... will have to think about it. My mom has one that comes to mind right away. Wash. She adds a "r". Warsh Is she from Indiana or the Cincinnati area? I broke myself of that habit on high school.
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Post by giramomma on Sept 11, 2017 23:27:06 GMT -5
I mispronounced alleles when I used to help DH study in college.
Called them Al-le-lees.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 11, 2017 23:28:14 GMT -5
I sure I have some .... will have to think about it. My mom has one that comes to mind right away. Wash. She adds a "r". Warsh Wash is 'worsh' down here. Your mom must be from the upper South.
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Post by irishpad on Sept 11, 2017 23:30:28 GMT -5
I sure I have some .... will have to think about it. My mom has one that comes to mind right away. Wash. She adds a "r". Warsh Wash is 'worsh' down here. Your mom must be from the upper South. Worsh or probably closer to what she says. Nope, not from upper South nor Indiana. North Dakota girl like your mom.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 12, 2017 2:03:18 GMT -5
There were a lot of bad grammar/pronunciations that I fixed once I got toncollege (still don't have the best grammar but I no longer say things like "I seen" or double negatives).
Icing was pronounced ice-Ning.
My mother doesn't measure anything she Maysures it
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Post by mroped on Sept 12, 2017 5:56:36 GMT -5
Rhodendrum or Rhododendrum? And is "aluminium" with the accent on the center syllable. That's how is noted by Mendeleev And "salmon" with an ""L". I got my wife very very confused at the beginning of our relationship when I mentioned something about "sheeps". In her mind she was thinking "wow! These people own a lot of boats!"
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Post by NoNamePerson on Sept 12, 2017 6:41:43 GMT -5
I'm lousy at phonics. I don't understand "fire-y and "fear-y". What word are you talking about? @southernsusana
My cousin recently pointed out that we say the store name Kroger as if it had an s at the end of it.
My mother also said Krogers. Since we didn't have a korger here I thought that was the name till I went to visit her and took her to the grocery store.
I had a problem with sophisticated when I was young. Not now though.
My son had a problem with peanut butter when he was a toddler. He said "peeka nukka butter. I told him peanut butter would be a lot easier to say!!!
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Post by Regis on Sept 12, 2017 6:45:13 GMT -5
Greasy. In my mind, it rhymes with easy, not pronounced "grease e" And hey, let's not lump all of Indiana into that "worsh" thing, Waffle. All of my family in southern Indiana pronounces it that way but we sophisticated people in Central Indiana pronounce it correctly!
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Post by flamingo on Sept 12, 2017 8:23:25 GMT -5
My mom is from eastern Ohio and says "warsh", too. A woman I am acquainted with spent some time trying to convince me that epitome was ep-i-tome (short i/long o/silent e). She kept saying, "but that's how they pronounce it in this book!" and then pointing to the page where it was written. Uh, yeah, that's how it's spelled, but it's not pronounced that way. I'm fairly good with pronunciation, so my DH asks me all the time how to pronounce words. My sophomore year of high school we spent a LOT of time on "SAT Hot Words" in English class practicing words out loud. I will always be grateful for that teacher and helping to make sure I was saying words right. I can't always spell them, though
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 12, 2017 8:25:07 GMT -5
I still don't know how to say astilbe. I asked my gardening BIL how to pronounce it right and he admitted he doesn't know either. If someone sees them in my yard and asks me what they are, I tell them 'a flowering ferny thing.' It kills me when I watch a gardening show and they not only know how to pronounce the common name, they know all the Latin names too. I'd love to see just one of those shows where the gardener says 'Oh yeah there's the pink flowers, and that's the mitten tree, and there's the plant with the spotty leaves, and that thing with the fuzzy root runners." Which is how I refer to my plants.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 12, 2017 8:46:49 GMT -5
my extended family is from southeast PA and does the "warsh" thing. They also pronouce the "y" at the end of the days as "ee": Mondee, Tuesdee, Wednesdee...
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Post by dannylion on Sept 12, 2017 8:55:57 GMT -5
My husband pronounces the L in salmon. That is not even an alternative pronunciation in the dictionary. I work in engineering and it always bothered me when people from Ireland, maybe other places mispronounced aluminum by adding an extra syllable - aluminium. I guess I don't have any. Aluminum is the American and Canadian spelling for the silver-white metallic element (number 13 on the periodic table) abundant in the earth’s crust. Aluminium is the preferred spelling outside North America. grammarist.com/spelling/aluminium-aluminum/Yup. They are not mispronouncing it. They are pronouncing their perfectly acceptable alternate version of the word correctly (or maybe our version is the alternate version).
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Post by dannylion on Sept 12, 2017 9:12:53 GMT -5
So I don't know if it's because I gained so much of my vocabulary through reading, but there are some words I just coded wrong. Some I've corrected over the years. Some I find it hard because I just like how I say it better Anyone else? Calendula, pedagogy and Hermione were all words I read wrong first ... A lot of people are surprised by the pronunciation of Hermione if they only know it through reading and have never heard it pronounced properly. Its etymology is Greek, so it doesn't follow the usual English/French pronunciation rules that first come to mind when English speakers work out how to pronounce a new word. It follows the same pattern as calliope, synecdoche, apostrophe, catastrophe, syncope, etc. in that the final consonant is pronounced, not silent. Interestingly, Irene falls into that category, but Americans pronounce it "Eye-REEN" while Brits (and possibly Canadians?) pronounce it "Eye-REEN-ee."
Much of the difficulty in pronouncing new words involves where to put the syllabic stress as well as the values of the consonants (hard/soft) and vowels (long/short). Sometimes knowing the origin of the word can help. Other times, not so much.
ETA: Epitome is also Greek, so that's another one where folks get tripped up if they've only read it and never heard it pronounced.
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Post by swasat on Sept 12, 2017 9:23:42 GMT -5
Laboratory. We Americans pronounce it Labora-tory. The rest of the world pronounces it Lab-o-ra-tory. I was shocked, SHOCKED I tell ya, when in my undergrad fellow students from India, China, Germany, Spain or England will say the word. Then I realized America is the ONLY country that pronounces it the way it does.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 9:24:40 GMT -5
Hermione is Hermione now... movies solved that bit I always say Cuh LAN due la ... but in my heart cal en do la sound better But I don't think I'll ever get pedagogy 'right'... which is what led to this thread I was saying yesterday I need to review my ped uh gog ey and someone asked me if that was like ped uh go gee. And I'm like yeah, same. I dont understand why a pedagogue would study ped uh go gee.
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Post by Pants on Sept 12, 2017 9:28:48 GMT -5
When I was little I talked a lot about Anne of Green Gables being from an az-lum (asylum). No idea why I though "asy" was "az" but there ya go.
Tabernacle. Every time I think I've got it right, it turns out nope. (Tah-burn-ick-le? Tab-er-nack-el? UNCLEAR.)
Like many others I was a reader as a kid, and was corrected on my pronunciation fairly frequently.
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