Wow. Elections do not have consequences after all

[Value Buy]

After reading this morning how many election issues backed by President Trump are not going to be funded by the new budget, as well as others that will be funded by the government he promised not to fund, I guess the Democrats did elect Hillary Clinton after all.
#sad President+Republican rhinos#

[Value Buy]

I really believed the crap.
Sorry about that.

[Rob Base 2.0]

The thing to remember is due to congressional dysfunction that this is only a 5 month budget.

Also this is the budget for FY (fiscal year) 17 which should have been approved 1 Oct 2016 (before the election)

Incoming POTUSes usually inherit the last POTUS budget during their first 9 months in office.

So in a way, this is Obama's budget.

We'll see what goes down in Sep 2017 negotiations for FY 18 budget.

Budget FY runs 1 Oct to 30 Sep

[billisonboard]

President Trump was elected through the process in place for the election of a US President. This budget was created through the process in place for establishing a US budget.

[Phoenix84]

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.

While I think some of the problem for the dysfunction is laid at the feet of democrats and their obstructionism, congressional republicans need to start growing a spine and actually start doing something.  They spent the last eight years telling us how they could do a better job governing the country than the democrats, but they just dither and bicker and get nothing done.  

And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy.  Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it. 

My guess is the president and republicans didn't want the bad press of a government shutdown.  But still, when democrats trumpet how great the spending bill is you have to wonder how many concessions the supposed "winners" had to make.  But, as Rob Base said, since this is just a 5 month budget and just a continuation of the Obama era budget, maybe it wasn't a hill worth dying on.

At least there's provisions for increased boarder security in the new budget.

[Gardening Grandma]

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.



Well, when your agenda goes against the US Constitution, what do you expect?  You CAN take pleasure from the appointment of an arch conservative, corporation loving, women's rights opponent being appointed to a stolen SC seat.


And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy. Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it.

Neither does Twittering...    You got exactly what you voted for.  You own him - and the consequences.

Elections DO have consequences.  What you are observing are the consequences of electing a totally unqualified (educaiton, experience or personal) person.

[swamp]

May 1, 2017 15:19:41 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.

While I think some of the problem for the dysfunction is laid at the feet of democrats and their obstructionism, congressional republicans need to start growing a spine and actually start doing something.  They spent the last eight years telling us how they could do a better job governing the country than the democrats, but they just dither and bicker and get nothing done.  

And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy.  Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it. 

My guess is the president and republicans didn't want the bad press of a government shutdown.  But still, when democrats trumpet how great the spending bill is you have to wonder how many concessions the supposed "winners" had to make.  But, as Rob Base said, since this is just a 5 month budget and just a continuation of the Obama era budget, maybe it wasn't a hill worth dying on.

At least there's provisions for increased boarder security in the new budget.

They aren't scared, they're disorganized and wouldn't know a complete policy on any issues if you smacked them with it.

They've spent the past 8 years obstructing and saying no, but never put forth any coherent policy of their own.   Now it's their turn to do so, and they never actually got together to come up with policies that would pass.    It's easy to unite to say no, not so easy to unite on policy. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 1, 2017 8:22:30 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

After reading this morning how many election issues backed by President Trump are not going to be funded by the new budget, as well as others that will be funded by the government he promised not to fund, I guess the Democrats did elect Hillary Clinton after all.
#sad President+Republican rhinos#

It is technically true that the GOP controlled congress did not fund the border wall authorized in 2006, and which is still the law. However, the real headline should be that the GOP controlled congress has allocated $30 billion in federal dollars, and more than $80 billion in unfunded mandates on the states for illegal immigration. Because while the border wall would cost $10 billion, illegal immigrants cost taxpayers $113 billion a year in combined federal, state, and local tax dollars-- www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 1, 2017 15:41:19 GMT -5 swamp said:

May 1, 2017 15:19:41 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.

While I think some of the problem for the dysfunction is laid at the feet of democrats and their obstructionism, congressional republicans need to start growing a spine and actually start doing something.  They spent the last eight years telling us how they could do a better job governing the country than the democrats, but they just dither and bicker and get nothing done.  

And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy.  Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it. 

My guess is the president and republicans didn't want the bad press of a government shutdown.  But still, when democrats trumpet how great the spending bill is you have to wonder how many concessions the supposed "winners" had to make.  But, as Rob Base said, since this is just a 5 month budget and just a continuation of the Obama era budget, maybe it wasn't a hill worth dying on.

At least there's provisions for increased boarder security in the new budget.

They aren't scared, they're disorganized and wouldn't know a complete policy on any issues if you smacked them with it.

They've spent the past 8 years obstructing and saying no, but never put forth any coherent policy of their own.   Now it's their turn to do so, and they never actually got together to come up with policies that would pass.    It's easy to unite to say no, not so easy to unite on policy. 

I used to think so, too. What I now realize is that the GOP wanted Obama policies all along, and it is their intention to "survive" the Trump presidency without enacting any of the meaningful changes he won a massive electoral landslide on. The risk they're running of course is that Trump will win such a massive victory in 2020 that they'll all HAVE to do exactly as we want then. 

If you don't think he's going to win, then you will have to explain why it is that you believe Democrats will take Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida back from him in 2020? I don't think they've got a plan to do it-- and in fact, I think Trump will pick up Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Minnesota, and Virginia-- almost with certainty, and there'll probably be some wildcards in there-- your guess is as good as mine on that.

The Trump coalition is growing, not shrinking. Polls will NEVER be reliable again-- you're just going to have to listen to me from here on out. Never doubt it.

[Gardening Grandma]

"Massive electoral landslide"!    

You must be a graduate of Trump Univ!!

[swamp]

May 1, 2017 16:05:30 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 1, 2017 15:41:19 GMT -5 swamp said:

They aren't scared, they're disorganized and wouldn't know a complete policy on any issues if you smacked them with it.

They've spent the past 8 years obstructing and saying no, but never put forth any coherent policy of their own.   Now it's their turn to do so, and they never actually got together to come up with policies that would pass.    It's easy to unite to say no, not so easy to unite on policy. 

I used to think so, too. What I now realize is that the GOP wanted Obama policies all along, and it is their intention to "survive" the Trump presidency without enacting any of the meaningful changes he won a massive electoral landslide on. The risk they're running of course is that Trump will win such a massive victory in 2020 that they'll all HAVE to do exactly as we want then. 

If you don't think he's going to win, then you will have to explain why it is that you believe Democrats will take Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida back from him in 2020? I don't think they've got a plan to do it-- and in fact, I think Trump will pick up Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Minnesota, and Virginia-- almost with certainty, and there'll probably be some wildcards in there-- your guess is as good as mine on that.

The Trump coalition is growing, not shrinking. Polls will NEVER be reliable again-- you're just going to have to listen to me from here on out. Never doubt it.

Yup.  I'll get right on that. 

[weltschmerz]

And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy.

Trump is a moron. Angela Merkel had to explain to him how international trade works ELEVEN times.
He has no idea how the Constitution works, how checks and balances work or even anything about American history.

U.S. President Donald Trump made puzzling claims about Andrew Jackson and the Civil War in an interview, suggesting he was uncertain about the origin of the conflict while claiming the former president was upset about a war that started 16 years after his death.

www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-jackson-civil-war-1.4093515

He knows how to tweet, and that's about it.
Good luck with that.

[swamp]

May 1, 2017 16:14:06 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy.

Trump is a moron. Angela Merkel had to explain to him how international trade works ELEVEN times.
He has no idea how the Constitution works, how checks and balances work or even anything about American history.

U.S. President Donald Trump made puzzling claims about Andrew Jackson and the Civil War in an interview, suggesting he was uncertain about the origin of the conflict while claiming the former president was upset about a war that started 16 years after his death.

www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-jackson-civil-war-1.4093515

He knows how to tweet, and that's about it.
Good luck with that.

I loved that comment about Jackson, if Jackson had been in charge, he would have negotiated a settlement and there would be no war.  

So, since Jackson owned over 100 slaves, and negotiating slavery out of existence would have been very bad for his business, I am assuming slavery would still exist.   Not a way I want to live. 

[Gardening Grandma]

May 1, 2017 16:14:06 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy.

Trump is a moron. Angela Merkel had to explain to him how international trade works ELEVEN times.
He has no idea how the Constitution works, how checks and balances work or even anything about American history.

U.S. President Donald Trump made puzzling claims about Andrew Jackson and the Civil War in an interview, suggesting he was uncertain about the origin of the conflict while claiming the former president was upset about a war that started 16 years after his death.

www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-jackson-civil-war-1.4093515

He knows how to tweet, and that's about it.
Good luck with that.

And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy.

That was obvious before the election. His supporters either didnot care or did not notice

[weltschmerz]

If you want to advise Trump on anything, just make sure you're the last one to talk to him.

He has the memory of a goldfish.



www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/advising-donald-trump-1.4091130

[swamp]

May 1, 2017 16:49:05 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

If you to advise Trump on anything, just make sure you're the last one to talk to him.

He has the memory of a goldfish.



www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/advising-donald-trump-1.4091130

I'm thinking more like Dory.

[Peace Of Mind]

They aren't scared, they're disorganized and wouldn't know a complete policy on any issues if you smacked them with it.



They've spent the past 8 years obstructing and saying no, but never put forth any coherent policy of their own.   Now it's their turn to do so, and they never actually got together to come up with policies that would pass.    It's easy to unite to say no, not so easy to unite on policy. 

I don't think they ever dreamed that he could win and sat on their butts doing nothing expecting to continue to point fingers and blame the Democrats for everything while collecting their fat paychecks and perks. Boy were they outed for how truly worthless they are. 

If there is a silver lining for Trump's win this is one of them.  A lot of stuff is coming out about many people because those that are sick of the lies, perversions, fraud, and do nothing republicans are standing up against it and speaking up.  And people are getting more educated about how the USA and our laws really work no matter who thinks they can dictate otherwise.   

[weltschmerz]

"Nobody has more respect for women than my father"

-Ivanka Trump (said to boos and jeers)


Trump immediately abolishes the global Let Girls Learn initiative.


fortune.com/2017/05/01/donald-trump-michelle-obama-girls-education/

Citing an internal document, CNN reported Monday that the new administration will cease operation of Let Girls Learn, the former First Lady's multiyear program to help 62 million adolescent girls attend and stay in school.

[Phoenix84]

May 1, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.



Well, when your agenda goes against the US Constitution, what do you expect?  You CAN take pleasure from the appointment of an arch conservative, corporation loving, women's rights opponent being appointed to a stolen SC seat.


And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy. Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it.

Neither does Twittering...    You got exactly what you voted for.  You own him - and the consequences.

Elections DO have consequences.  What you are observing are the consequences of electing a totally unqualified (educaiton, experience or personal) person.

Don't mistake my criticism of Trump and the republicans for regret, much less support for democrats or Hillary.

I am and will always be grateful Hillary lost the election. I'd rather have an incompetent republican than a corrupt and self serving democrat.

[weltschmerz]

You'll regret it when you see the mushroom cloud from your kitchen window.

[swamp]

May 1, 2017 17:31:34 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

May 1, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.



Well, when your agenda goes against the US Constitution, what do you expect?  You CAN take pleasure from the appointment of an arch conservative, corporation loving, women's rights opponent being appointed to a stolen SC seat.


And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy. Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it.

Neither does Twittering...    You got exactly what you voted for.  You own him - and the consequences.

Elections DO have consequences.  What you are observing are the consequences of electing a totally unqualified (educaiton, experience or personal) person.

Don't mistake my criticism of Trump and the republicans for regret, much less support for democrats or Hillary.

I am and will always be grateful Hillary lost the election. I'd rather have an incompetent republican than a corrupt and self serving democrat.

Unfortunately, it appears that we have an incompetent and self serving Republican.

[tallguy]

This is a new standard for blatant and flagrant self-serving as far as American politics goes.  It's pretty common-place in the third-world particularly, but that is not a standard we should be aspiring to....       

[emma1420]

May 1, 2017 17:31:34 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

May 1, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.



Well, when your agenda goes against the US Constitution, what do you expect?  You CAN take pleasure from the appointment of an arch conservative, corporation loving, women's rights opponent being appointed to a stolen SC seat.


And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy. Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it.

Neither does Twittering...    You got exactly what you voted for.  You own him - and the consequences.

Elections DO have consequences.  What you are observing are the consequences of electing a totally unqualified (educaiton, experience or personal) person.

Don't mistake my criticism of Trump and the republicans for regret, much less support for democrats or Hillary.

I am and will always be grateful Hillary lost the election. I'd rather have an incompetent republican than a corrupt and self serving democrat.

You got your wish.

And to be honest, I'd prefer an incompetent republican than a competent republican.  There typically less damage that way.

[Deleted]

May 1, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.



Well, when your agenda goes against the US Constitution, what do you expect?  You CAN take pleasure from the appointment of an arch conservative, corporation loving, women's rights opponent being appointed to a stolen SC seat.


And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy. Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it.

Neither does Twittering...    You got exactly what you voted for.  You own him - and the consequences.

Elections DO have consequences.  What you are observing are the consequences of electing a totally unqualified (educaiton, experience or personal) person.

Underlined: We expect what precedent has taught us to expect. That they will get their way (like Obama did, with Obamacare).

[Value Buy]

May 1, 2017 15:56:46 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 1, 2017 8:22:30 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

After reading this morning how many election issues backed by President Trump are not going to be funded by the new budget, as well as others that will be funded by the government he promised not to fund, I guess the Democrats did elect Hillary Clinton after all.
#sad President+Republican rhinos#

It is technically true that the GOP controlled congress did not fund the border wall authorized in 2006, and which is still the law. However, the real headline should be that the GOP controlled congress has allocated $30 billion in federal dollars, and more than $80 billion in unfunded mandates on the states for illegal immigration. Because while the border wall would cost $10 billion, illegal immigrants cost taxpayers $113 billion a year in combined federal, state, and local tax dollars-- www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

We got squat out of this funding budget. The Republicans caved on every issue important to any Democrat.
This is bullshit.
President Trump caved too. Not a wimper out of him over this budget

[Gardening Grandma]

May 1, 2017 17:31:34 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

May 1, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.



Well, when your agenda goes against the US Constitution, what do you expect?  You CAN take pleasure from the appointment of an arch conservative, corporation loving, women's rights opponent being appointed to a stolen SC seat.


And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy. Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it.

Neither does Twittering...    You got exactly what you voted for.  You own him - and the consequences.

Elections DO have consequences.  What you are observing are the consequences of electing a totally unqualified (educaiton, experience or personal) person.

Don't mistake my criticism of Trump and the republicans for regret, much less support for democrats or Hillary.

I am and will always be grateful Hillary lost the election. I'd rather have an incompetent republican than a corrupt and self serving democrat.

Trump is onky inept at politics. His corruption and self serving actions are far, far greater than anything Hillary was even accused of.  But you're just fine with an incompetent, self serving corrupt president - just as long as he's  republican. Got it.

[Gardening Grandma]

May 1, 2017 17:55:46 GMT -5 swamp said:

May 1, 2017 17:31:34 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

Don't mistake my criticism of Trump and the republicans for regret, much less support for democrats or Hillary.

I am and will always be grateful Hillary lost the election. I'd rather have an incompetent republican than a corrupt and self serving democrat.

Unfortunately, it appears that we have an incompetent and self serving Republican.

He's pretty competent at playing golf and lining his pockets with taxpayer dollars.....

[Value Buy]

May 1, 2017 16:07:47 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

"Massive electoral landslide"!    

You must be a graduate of Trump Univ!!

I think even you on election night saw the number he won by as a landslide. Anything above one vote more than Hillary was the end of the world as you knew it.

[Gardening Grandma]

May 1, 2017 20:43:08 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

May 1, 2017 16:07:47 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

"Massive electoral landslide"!    

You must be a graduate of Trump Univ!!

I think even you on election night saw the number he won by as a landslide. Anything above one vote more than Hillary was the end of the world as you knew it.

It was the end of the world as you knew it too. You just haven't figured that out - yet.

Electorally, there was no landslide. He could not even win the popular vote. Even with the help of the Russians, Assaunge, Comey and Wickileaks.   Landslide, my azz.

[Gardening Grandma]

May 1, 2017 15:19:41 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

It is disappointing that no major legislation has passed nor are president Trump's campaign agenda's getting completed. The Republicans are running around scared and letting the democrats control the narrative.

While I think some of the problem for the dysfunction is laid at the feet of democrats and their obstructionism, congressional republicans need to start growing a spine and actually start doing something.  They spent the last eight years telling us how they could do a better job governing the country than the democrats, but they just dither and bicker and get nothing done.  

And so far, president Trump has shown he does not have the political capital or vision to enact his policy.  Just releasing a one page summary of tax reform is not going to cut it. 

My guess is the president and republicans didn't want the bad press of a government shutdown.  But still, when democrats trumpet how great the spending bill is you have to wonder how many concessions the supposed "winners" had to make.  But, as Rob Base said, since this is just a 5 month budget and just a continuation of the Obama era budget, maybe it wasn't a hill worth dying on.

At least there's provisions for increased boarder security in the new budget.

I assume you  mean border? (A boarder lives in your house and pays you for room and board)

And "$120 million for security for Trump and his family; his wife living separately in NY and his children travelling on family business, as they use the Oval Office to line the family coffers.