Thirteen Reasons Why on Netflix

[movingforward]

Is anyone else watching this show? I find it annoying and interesting all at the same time. Even when I get annoyed with it, I still can't stop watching. I only have 2 episodes left and will probably finish them tonight.

[chiver78]

I am not watching, but I read the book a number of years ago. stick with it, the story will haunt you.

[whoisjohngalt]

I read the book. I have this thing that I don't do both - I either read a book or watch a movie.

I really really liked the book. I think everyone should read it. I mean - everyone!

[movingforward]

I can't wait to see how it ends. My plan this evening is to take a walk, take a shower, throw some popcorn in the microwave and finish this thing.

[imawino]

Never heard of it. Can someone give a lazy gal a quick synopsis?

[Kolt!]

Oh, dear lord. It pulls on your heart strings. 

It's about a girl named Hannah that commits suicide and sends these tapes out and each tape is a reason or rather a person who helped her in deciding why she ended her life. It follows a boy named Clay who doesn't know why he's on the tapes... he had a crush on her but he's socially awkward and such. (he's totally me!) 

Anyways he starts listening to this tape and you hear about all these things people did to her. And it just almost becomes this mystery thriller and it's a wild emotional ride. 

It does differ from the books some.

But I believe it's a really important Tv show as it deals with a lot of issues such as depression, suicide, being kind to others, rape and how words and such can make a difference. 

[Kolt!]

I know it kind of sounds lame ...like all it will be is this big emotional show and such but it's so much more then that. 

I watched it in one day. I started watching it with my fiancee but then I had to go grade papers and she kept watching it without me and finished it at like three in the morning and said it was really good but sad. I then started watching it with my mom and we stayed up together until like one am finishing it. She also really enjoyed it. I actually haven't met someone of any walk of life yet that hasn't liked it. The only complaints I've seen are from some people that just really hate tragedy. But going in one ought to know it isn't going to be a happy go lucky show when it starts with a dead girl sending people tapes about why she killed herself. Like if you hate sad...probably should have turned away within the first minute.

[movingforward]

Yes, I am really enjoying it. The only thing I get annoyed about is that most of the characters are just so unlikable but I guess they are supposed to be.

[Shooby]

Ok checking this out on Netflix

[Shooby]

  The premise is a bit odd.  It's "your fault", i am dead.  And, she doesn't seem like a shy , downtrodden girl, etc.  

[movingforward]

Apr 8, 2017 10:17:23 GMT -5 Shooby said:

  The premise is a bit odd.  It's "your fault", i am dead.  And, she doesn't seem like a shy , downtrodden girl, etc.  

It gets pretty interesting. When I said that I don't find the characters very likable, I include the girl that committed suicide. I feel really bad about many of the things that happen to her but something about her personality annoys me a little too.

Also, I never did get to finish last night. I am at a board meeting all day today and board dinner this evening so I will not be able to finish it until Sunday.

[Shooby]

   Netflix does have a lot of good originals.  Which is why is subscribed.  My son talked me into it saying they had some good shows on there.  I really liked Stranger Things too.  I started watching the St Clarita Diet and that was pretty strange, lol.

[Kolt!]

She does blame people but what some do such as Bryce and Justin are awful. And truth is yes a person can be mentally ill so sometimes they can't be saved. Yet sometimes they can and there's stories of people that planned to end their life but then someone was kind to them and helped them. There's a chance some people can be saved if people hadn't been so cruel. They'd have done it eventually isn't always the case.

She was labeled a slut and Hannah was a virgin and died a virgin. She was sexually assaulted numerous times because of guys assuming she was easy then getting pissed because she wasn't. She also had no real friends. Just because someone isn't shy or quiet in telling people off that hurt them doesn't mean they're not suicidal. Being bullied, being called a slut, being raped, being slapped on the butt, having no friends... I can see why she fell and couldn't get up. And yes she was to blame for her death but they helped make her life hell. I believe Bryce was certainly part of her death and Justin some of the other ones were smaller issues but why can't people not be jerks? Being her friend could have changed something I know it did for me. If I hadn't found friends I know today I wouldn't be here. People being kind made a difference and helped me get over my depression and because of kind people I haven't thought about suicide in over four years when before it was daily. The night I planned to end things I got a call from a friend telling me how much she cared about me and she sat on the phone with me for 2 hours. She didn't know what I was planning but because of one person being there, caring I'm still here. Hannah got to the point of not having anyone.

Hannah wasn't so lucky. Clay was kind to her but the poor boy was so awkward he didn't know how to express himself well.

[Shooby]

We are teaching kids to crumble rather than to be resilient.  Yes, it's terrible.  But, the problem with the bullying issue is that we need to teach kids to be resilient. And, we are never going stop all the behaviors of bullies.  Yes, we should address it.  But, we need to teach kids coping skills so they dont' crumble.  If you kill yourself, you simply are saying that the opinions of the bullies are more important than the opinions of your parents, friends and family who love you.  The bullies win when kids commit suicide.

[movingforward]

Hannah wasn't so lucky. Clay was kind to her but the poor boy was so awkward he didn't know how to express himself well.

SPOILER: Click to show

The last episode I saw was the one with Clay's tape. I felt just awful for him. He was nothing but kind to her and if someone told me to "get the fuck out" I would have left as well.

[Happy prose]

This sounds a little too depressing for me. Does anyone have any other Netflix recommendations? I need a new show.

[movingforward]

Apr 8, 2017 15:50:10 GMT -5 Happy prose said:

This sounds a little too depressing for me. Does anyone have any other Netflix recommendations? I need a new show.

Longmire
The Killing
Grace and Frankie
The Crown
Iron Fist (I have only watched 2 episodes but like it so far)

[Happy prose]

Thanks movingforward. My daughter has been telling me about The Killing, and a work friend Grace and Frankie. I think I'll try Grace and Frankie first.

[Shooby]

  Is Clay gay or does he like Hannah?  Not sure yet.

[Kolt!]

He's straight or so I assume. He could be bi but he loved Hannah like the plot of it says the girl he crushed on. Clay is just a socially awkward nerd that isn't good with girls.

[Kolt!]

Apr 8, 2017 13:17:18 GMT -5 movingforward said:

Hannah wasn't so lucky. Clay was kind to her but the poor boy was so awkward he didn't know how to express himself well.

SPOILER: Click to show

The last episode I saw was the one with Clay's tape. I felt just awful for him. He was nothing but kind to her and if someone told me to "get the fuck out" I would have left as well.

SPOILER: Click to show

I would have left too. She did say he didn't belong on the tapes. The author said he couldn't have Clay be on there doing something bad so that's what he came up with. He didn't want the main character to end up hated for what he did to Hannah therefore clay did nothing wrong. I don't know I felt like it had a good way of showing how both the people on the tapes and Hannah were wrong. Tony explains it well that Hannah expected something others had no clue about to react certain ways and that wasn't on them. Therefore clay and the counselor couldn't have known. Nobody could have. But at the same time those that raped her, assaulted her, bullied her..they should have done better. Also her poor parents. I felt the worse for them. She didn't stop to think of them.

Although there's a good chance I would have texted Hannah even after she told me to F off because I wouldn't want to lose her from my life because I hate losing people and I've been known to be the annoying prat that texts someone after they yell at me to F off if they're my friend or something more. I give space but literally the next day I'd check in again >.> but still... clay couldn't have known and that one was really on Hannah <.< my heart broke watching him deal with that because most anyone would leave after the F off. She didn't tell him to leave just once either.

[whoisjohngalt]

Clay wasn't gay

Hannah didn't die a virgin.

This book is not just about suicide, it's about how selfish and self-absorbed we get, children and adults alike.

It has nothing to do with not teaching the kids to be resilient.

And depressing or not - I think people should read it. If for no other reason, then may be, for at least a short time after, they will remember to be kinder to one another.

[Blonde Granny]

The O. J. Simpson story is really good

If someone is into "chick flicks" When Calls the Heart

The Black List

House of Cards

[Kolt!]

In the Tv show yes Hannah did die a virgin. The book differs from the tv show some. Unless you believe being raped means you're no longer a virgin... in the tv show she never willingly had sex.

[Kolt!]

They made it different as well because they're planning a season 2 and in order to do that they strayed from the books.

[Shooby]

OK, i binge watched so am pretty well caught up, lol.  Some of it does rub me the wrong way.  Hannah kind of expects everyone to act on her terms.  Like when her coffee club breaks up and the other two start dating.  That's life, that isn't a slam towards her.  And, like i said killing yourself over high school crap is such a waste.  She has a wonderful mom and dad and is being raised in a very nice, priviledged home.  SHe is healthy and beautiful so feeling sorry for yourself, not so much.  Maybe SHE should have gone to feed the homeless a the food bank to channel her pain  or something like that rather than plotting her revenge suicide from the grave.
  On the other hand, it is always a good reminder of how life is and how sometimes we hurt other people either intentionally or unintentionally. And, that we can all do better.

[whoisjohngalt]

Apr 9, 2017 10:35:32 GMT -5 Kolt! said:

In the Tv show yes Hannah did die a virgin. The book differs from the tv show some. Unless you believe being raped means you're no longer a virgin... in the tv show she never willingly had sex.

Well, it's not really what *I* believe, it's more of what  medical/science people believe.

But whatever.  I am NOT going down that rabbit hole with you.

[whoisjohngalt]

Apr 9, 2017 12:10:06 GMT -5 Shooby said:

OK, i binge watched so am pretty well caught up, lol.  Some of it does rub me the wrong way.  Hannah kind of expects everyone to act on her terms.  Like when her coffee club breaks up and the other two start dating.  That's life, that isn't a slam towards her.  And, like i said killing yourself over high school crap is such a waste.  She has a wonderful mom and dad and is being raised in a very nice, priviledged home.  SHe is healthy and beautiful so feeling sorry for yourself, not so much.  Maybe SHE should have gone to feed the homeless a the food bank to channel her pain  or something like that rather than plotting her revenge suicide from the grave.
  On the other hand, it is always a good reminder of how life is and how sometimes we hurt other people either intentionally or unintentionally. And, that we can all do better.

I took it as she was hoping/expecting for at least some loyalty from those kids and they just kind of moved on completely.  Which, yes, of course it does happen, it happens all the time, to most people - but I think it can still be hurtful

That's actually a great point and I think important to teach to the kids - yes, things can be bad, but try channeling it into something good, some kindness, etc.  THANK YOU!  I will be more diligent about it with my boys

Interestingly enough, in the book, there wasn't much at all about her home life, except the assumption that she grew up in a "regular" family.

[Shooby]

I teach my kids that the only person you control is you.  And, how you think others should act, react, etc, is often very surprising.  So, you can't bank on that.  
  One time, when i had a great job opportunity with a couple of colleagues, we were going to be moving on.  My one colleague wanted to give notice immediately.  She thought everything would be love and light and that we would finish up on good terms and move on.  I said that we don't know how the boss will react and this could get ugly and i will not give notice until i have a signed contract for the new opportunity.  Then after that happened and we did give notice she was stunned by the boss's reaction. Since that time i have learned that how you think someone will react and how they actually do are often 2 completely different things.

[Shooby]

 In the end, killing yourself over high school drama?  Why?  Why?  It's ridiculous.