Another " I'm selling my house thread"

[zibazinski]

May 2, 2017 13:26:31 GMT -5 WholeLottaNothin said:

I told DH after we closed on our house last year (first house we ever bought) that I am never ever doing this again. I have heard that it is easier if you can pay for it all in cash as then you don't have to deal with all the bank crapola, but that does not seem likely to happen in my lifetime

Slightly easier but not a whole lot. It's a pita.

[Iggy aka IG]

Agreed, WholeLottaNothin.  As morbid as it sounds, DH said we are going to die at the new house.  Either on the land itself, or the way down from it. 

I still have yet to meet someone who enjoys the moving process....

[zibazinski]

I haven't even gotten to the moving part. I say that this house will be my dying house. Unless I go to a nursing home-then I'm basically dead anyway.

[countrygirl2]

We buy cash and its always saved us a bundle and the closings are pretty easy. But he also inspects and we buy as is,

we never ask for anything fixed.

I am talking with realtor, we are thinking of withdrawing the duplex till those people are moved out then putting it up

for sale again.  The days on market matter and after a time will be getting low ball offers, he will let me know.

We are having the outside power washed and painted, very reasonable, DH said cheaper then him going down and doing

it, so that will help.   

We will get there.  We got one unit rental payment, don't get the other till the 5th anymore, told him I wonder if we will

get it, he said if not let it go.  It's more important to him to have them leave then the money, we shall see.  Maybe I

am anticipating problems that won't happen, we hope not. 

[Iggy aka IG]

May 2, 2017 14:25:06 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

I haven't even gotten to the moving part. I say that this house will be my dying house. Unless I go to a nursing home-then I'm basically dead anyway.

I liked your OP.  Not for the dying part, but you know. 

[countrygirl2]

I doubt this will be our last house. If hubby goes first and I'm old can't care for all this to big.

Me, I will move to town somewhere. Doubt we could ever get our money out of this so will

just continue to enjoy it while we can. If hubby is alive too he will never move, will make

it very hard on me.

Just have to see what happens, not worrying about it. If we stay in later years will just

have to spend money for help, he will throw a fit.

[NastyWoman]

May 2, 2017 13:48:13 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Agreed, WholeLottaNothin .  As morbid as it sounds, DH said we are going to die at the new house.  Either on the land itself, or the way down from it. 

I still have yet to meet someone who enjoys the moving process....

 and believe me, practice does not make it better. I have moved over two dozen times and I hate it with a passion! Still there may be another, international, move in my future since DS2 and his family moved to Europe leaving me without family on this continent. I'll give it a number of years and if by then they have no plans of moving back, I may well decide to retire in Europe where 90+% of my family lives...

[Iggy aka IG]

May 5, 2017 1:20:21 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

May 2, 2017 13:48:13 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Agreed, WholeLottaNothin .  As morbid as it sounds, DH said we are going to die at the new house.  Either on the land itself, or the way down from it. 

I still have yet to meet someone who enjoys the moving process....

 and believe me, practice does not make it better. I have moved over two dozen times and I hate it with a passion! Still there may be another, international, move in my future since DS2 and his family moved to Europe leaving me without family on this continent. I'll give it a number of years and if by then they have no plans of moving back, I may well decide to retire in Europe where 90+% of my family lives...

Moving to Europe sounds exciting. 

I haven't had time to actually stop and think about it, but I seem to remember hiring people to both help pack and move me when I was single the past, um..... 4 times I think?  11 1/2 years ago. DH and his friend moved our stuff into our now former home, and he did most of the current move himself.  Only at the last minute, the night before, did I finally put a shout out on FB for help for him.  There was no way I was going to help move couches (each has two recliner chairs), kitchen table, etc.  By the last day we were both so stressed, we each ended up getting sick, and I went to the ER w/ my asthma last week.  NEVER again.  When we close on our new house later this month, I'm going to start a FB "move in" event.  We have a storage unit, 2 trailers, and a shed full of stuff to deal with.  DH and his pride will have to deal with it.

[NastyWoman]

May 5, 2017 12:28:48 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

May 5, 2017 1:20:21 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

 and believe me, practice does not make it better. I have moved over two dozen times and I hate it with a passion! Still there may be another, international, move in my future since DS2 and his family moved to Europe leaving me without family on this continent. I'll give it a number of years and if by then they have no plans of moving back, I may well decide to retire in Europe where 90+% of my family lives...

Moving to Europe sounds exciting. 

Only after all the stuff is unpacked. I get tired just thinking about it. If it happens this would be my 9th international move and, believe me, moving inside a country is nothing compared to this. And I would be doing this one alone (=limited to no help on this side of the puddle).

Whatever, my current timeline is 4-5 years from now so I am not going to worry about it just yet.

[Iggy aka IG]

May 5, 2017 12:34:50 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

May 5, 2017 12:28:48 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

Moving to Europe sounds exciting. 

Only after all the stuff is unpacked. I get tired just thinking about it. If it happens this would be my 9th international move and, believe me, moving inside a country is nothing compared to this. And I would be doing this one alone (=limited to no help on this side of the puddle).

Whatever, my current timeline is 4-5 years from now so I am not going to worry about it just yet.

How does that work, exactly?  What method do you ship your belongings?  Is there a weight limit?  Do you self-impose limits?  Agreed-doing so alone would stink.  I'd probably make up a story in my head, of being royalty or something, setting off to a new land...

[NastyWoman]

Iggy, it is a multiple step process that mirrors the in-country moves for the most part. Since the cost (which is in the low five figures) is tied to both weight and size I whave to get rid of as much as I possibly can bear. But so many of my possessions are tied to parts of my life that this is very, very hard. I picture of a wall hanging bought while living in the Far East is not by any means of the imagination the same as the wall hanging.  You get what I am saying though.

Then I have to find ta couple of international moving companies which are not only good at moving things but are also good at all the customs/freight forwarding stuff involved. Since my previous moves were company sponsored I never had to do this before... Next comes the "homeless" period of a couple of months. Things are packed and on a truck on its way to a ship, house "surrendered", and you fly to the next location where, unless you have friends and/or family living there already, you get to figure out how to meet this country's requirements (not sure I will move to my home country due to tax complications). Get insurance (health and everything else) etc., etc., etc. And then you get to find a new place, wait for your stuff, buy what you couldn't take but need anyway (anything electrical like washer, dryer, vacuum, and so on). Unpack, collapse and wonder why in the H*ll you ever decided to do this to yourself. The last step is fun → rebuild your life in a new place. New things to see and do , people to meet.

[Iggy aka IG]

May 5, 2017 13:27:20 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Iggy, it is a multiple step process that mirrors the in-country moves for the most part. Since the cost (which is in the low five figures) is tied to both weight and size I whave to get rid of as much as I possibly can bear. But so many of my possessions are tied to parts of my life that this is very, very hard. I picture of a wall hanging bought while living in the Far East is not by any means of the imagination the same as the wall hanging.  You get what I am saying though.

Then I have to find ta couple of international moving companies which are not only good at moving things but are also good at all the customs/freight forwarding stuff involved. Since my previous moves were company sponsored I never had to do this before... Next comes the "homeless" period of a couple of months. Things are packed and on a truck on its way to a ship, house "surrendered", and you fly to the next location where, unless you have friends and/or family living there already, you get to figure out how to meet this country's requirements (not sure I will move to my home country due to tax complications). Get insurance (health and everything else) etc., etc., etc. And then you get to find a new place, wait for your stuff, buy what you couldn't take but need anyway (anything electrical like washer, dryer, vacuum, and so on). Unpack, collapse and wonder why in the H*ll you ever decided to do this to yourself. The last step is fun → rebuild your life in a new place. New things to see and do , people to meet.

What an amazing ordeal!  Which country have you found to be the most "difficult" country to deal with thus far?

[countrygirl2]

Oh my, my elderly renter called and the guy power washing the house was hooked onto her water and used it for 4 hours.

She apparently called the realtor and wanted to know if he was going to pay for it.  Unbelievable!  I was not real nice, I

said just send me the bill, but while your at it is your son going to pay this months rent?  We were thinking of just letting

it go, not now.  Oh, he hasn't paid it yet, I said maybe I will get it today.  As hubby says a pressure washer uses very little

water, so she could have made over $400 by not doing that.  Oh well. She is moving in with her son till she finishes paying

off her car then buying a 5th wheel to live in!!  Wait till she sees what the rent costs.

Then she says, I bought all new furniture just a little over 4 years ago and now have to sell it.  I said you know I told you

over 4 years ago we were going to sell this place and kept it way longer then we intended, well yes she knew that.

And the other lady is sick, dealing with cancer on her face and I think a biopsy on her breast.  But sadly that has been her

life, dealing with sick and blind mom, dad sick, or something ever since I'm known her.  She doesn't need to be living

alone anyway, this lady has been taking her to the doctor and is in her 80's and can't do it any longer.  Her daughter

in New York, who is well off wants her to come there.  NO way is she going to do that.  So another daughter is trying to

find her a place in town.  Hard headed old people, her son can't, has kids, dogs, and like a house to chaotic for her, she

is only 69.

So I checked on them, they are moving but I know they don't want to.  Good thing I gave them notice or nothing would

have happened.

[NastyWoman]

They each have their own challenges but in some way the US is the most difficult to deal with because there is a fair amount of xenophbia that is displayed by the officials you need to deal with- more so than in other countries.

ETA: keep in mind this is coming from someone who very much likes living here (in CA) so I don't think I am overly hash

[zibazinski]

Fascinating. Considering most people just waltz in here it must be to legally come in that's the hassle.

[NastyWoman]

May 5, 2017 17:01:28 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Fascinating. Considering most people just waltz in here it must be to legally come in that's the hassle.

Zib, if I learned one thing from the time we moved back for a few years, it is how little people know about the difficulties foreigners face in their country.  I only found out because our move back was temporary so our kids attended an international school. Talking to their friends' parents sure opened my eyes. I had no clue!!! And I know I was not less aware/dumber than others in their respective home countries → and I did ask people in subsequent countries.

[seriousthistime]

Today I get the keys to the new place!  I meet up with the sellers, who rented back for a month.  I finally get to move some things into the new place.  The movers come later this week to move the big pieces.  

Hurray!

[countrygirl2]

The realtor, broker, and I decided to withdraw the property from the market until the renters move. He said they

are going to be a problem if we show it and that they both had apartments absolutely stuffed. I could see that from

the pictures, they were clean as far as you could see but stuffed.

Also not being able to put a lockbox is very limiting. I'm going to turn off gas and water when they move and leave

electric on and leave a light or two on. Hubby is driving down and looking the place over after they move, we may

all go and take the motorhome to stay in, shall see.

We are having the outside powerwashed and repainted, its time.  He is even taking the shutters off and doing them

too and caulking everywhere that needs it, so it will show better.  So on the market again June 1 or very close to it.

[Iggy aka IG]

Congratulations, seriousthistime!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheOtherMe]

May 5, 2017 17:01:28 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Fascinating. Considering Smost people just waltz in here it must be to legally come in that's the hassle.

Nephew is married to a Ukranian citizen.  She was in the US on a student visa when they met.  They were married in the US, which our Senator's office said was the smartest thing they did in the process of getting her here legally.

It was a nightmare of paperwork and I got the ball rolling with the Senator to assist.  They ended up being apart for about 5 months, which to a newlywed is a lifetime.  She is here now with a green card and has a good job.

[Iggy aka IG]

The appraisal for our new home is scheduled for this Friday.  WOOT WOOT!

Does anyone know how long after the appraisal process is complete closing is possible?  (If no other contingencies or documents are required or left to process.)

[zibazinski]

May 10, 2017 10:40:02 GMT -5 Iggy aka IG said:

The appraisal for our new home is scheduled for this Friday.  WOOT WOOT!

Does anyone know how long after the appraisal process is complete closing is possible?  (If no other contingencies or documents are required or left to process.)

Depends on what else they can find to harass you about. I'm getting emails that are totally unclear as to what she is asking me to do or for. The head guy says everything is all set. WTF?

[Iggy aka IG]

Text from realtor:  Are you guys okay with closing the afternoon of the 26th?

HELLZ YEAH!

[countrygirl2]

We offered on a small house, looks really good outside, but its in poor condition,

has a newer roof, vinyl siding, and newer windows, but had leaked before and the

ceiling on the front porch they just put vinyl over the whatever was there and its

wavy.

Inside, floors need leveled, we would put in a new furnace and central air, had

window AC's about $5000 plus upgrade for electric for the AC, maybe another $500

with hubby doing it himself.  Hubby said he can look and see if the floors could be

leveled better, why people don't do that in these old houses is amazing to us, that

would be the first thing we did.

1 bedroom but could be 2, the second had no closet so they could not list it as

2.  It would hold a twin bed or crib, we would put in a stand alone closet and it

also could take a chest of drawers.  They had used it as an office.  Needs a couple

new light fixtures.  The caulking around the tub fixed. 

It does have a nice garage.  We lowballed it, all cash, as is.  On this one we put

in inspections as we want to make sure the floor problem is not because of

termites, that's the only inspection.  We do not expect to get it as on this one

we will not offer more.  That is our one and only offer.  It is overpriced for even

the average by almost $14 a square foot.  Would be nice to have, location is

across from city park, one house a house away has a shed falling in.  The city

here is getting very aggressive in demolishing and cleaning up so they

may work on that.

[busymom]

Good luck countrygirl2!  Hope the inspection goes well. 

[countrygirl2]

We doubt they even accept it, we put it in yesterday afternoon, and no response. Like I said its lowball,

but honestly its just not worth more then we offered, however, I do expect it to be rejected. All we will

look at is termite damage if any.

We now own 6 places up here, the ones for sale now are just overpriced. I don't blame people

for trying to get money out of them but when places have been on the market for over 300

days and not sold there are problems. But many are determined to "get out of it what we have

in it". I have heard that over and over. Sometimes the layout is so poor or the place so small its

just not going to happen. And then it has to be a credit worthy person who can buy it. But that's

just part of the game.

I wouldn't mind to pay more but here might be hard to resell a really nice house, especially like

our own.  We know we will never get out of it what we have in it.

[countrygirl2]

No, they countered but way high. I told hubby we encounter one like that again we just won't offer.

I'm sure they found the offer insulting, poor folks. They did a lot to it but did not do a lot of basic things

that needed done. So we said no more.

Even all the walls need redone, the living room had soft places in the paneling was afraid to push

on it, leaks or termites??  They should have sold it with furniture in it, it looked nice in the pictures.

Just a shabby fix up, yet looked really nice on the outside.  If it had been better we would have

offered more.

Will keep our eyes open, a decent one comes on the market occasionally.

[Deleted]

May 20, 2017 17:09:22 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

No, they countered but way high. I told hubby we encounter one like that again we just won't offer.

I'm sure they found the offer insulting, poor folks. They did a lot to it but did not do a lot of basic things

that needed done. So we said no more.

Even all the walls need redone, the living room had soft places in the paneling was afraid to push

on it, leaks or termites??  They should have sold it with furniture in it, it looked nice in the pictures.

Just a shabby fix up, yet looked really nice on the outside.  If it had been better we would have

offered more.

Will keep our eyes open, a decent one comes on the market occasionally.

I thought you guys were getting out of the rental business.  

[countrygirl2]

In Texas, we are. We likely are going down June 6th or so and do

some work on the duplex. Ladies are to be out June 1, they are both

moving now.

I know the front unit is in shabby condition, we need to see what we

need to do it. Already had the outside painted.  DD is wanting to go

down and run around so we may take the motorhome and do that,

while hubby drives his truck and tool trailer down, we shall see.

It will be sold no matter what we get, just keep reducing it till its sold.

A guy owes me $1500 to finish paying a lot off and travel trailer, it will

be gone this year. That gets us out of the Houston area completely.

Then we have a lot at Frisco, Texas worth $30k, offered it to the renters

with the mobile on it, they are going to try and get a loan. Hope they

can, they have been there for years and years. That will get us out of

Texas.

We have 6 up here and may get a couple more.  Have a couple months

to get one on the market will be next year before we have the next

ready.  We are wanting to get 1 or 2 more in better condition to rent

then we quit, or may after these 2, who knows.

[Iggy aka IG]

Spoke w/ our loan officer (who is also a friend) yesterday.  She said our loan is still at the company.  I told her we'll see.  She's all, nooooo!  You've been my positive rock during this whole thing!  I told her I cannot help it.  Then this happened:

Loan officer:  What time is your closing Friday?
Iggy:  2 PM.  Sparky confirmed earlier.
LO:  Really?  I thought it was at 1:30?
This resulted in 5 group text exchanges between Sparky, Mr. Iggy and myself.



This is the stuff that has me on my last nerve. 

My book shall be titled:

Buying a Home:  The American Dream My A$$