Today is the tale of two countries in America

[Value Buy]

We have the Daytona 500 race on the southeast redneck coast, and the Academy Awards on the alt left west coast.

Could we have a more obvious divided political country being represented by polar opposites on any given day, other than on election day? 

[Tennesseer]

Feb 26, 2017 9:37:37 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

We have the Daytona 500 race on the southeast redneck coast, and the Academy Awards on the alt left west coast.

Could we have a more obvious divided political country being represented by polar opposites on any given day, other than on election day? 

From a reply in the link you failed to mention in your opening post (or is it just an uncanny coincidence you and Fox came up with the same thought):

"How about this? Hollywood, the silver screen, famous movie stars.... pure America. Big badass V8 stock cars ripping around a track while we crush beers and wave the stars and bars and listen to a little country music.... pure America. Both of these things contribute to our culture and the story of what makes our country so awesome. Stop trying to get attention by further driving a political wedge between the peoples of this great country. -Sincerely, The Majority of America"

NASCAR vs. Hollywood is a tale of two Americas

[billisonboard]

A bunch of cars doing the same thing 200 times. Awarding people for a wide variety of doing things well including vastly different "best pictures".

Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway is 2.5 miles (4 km) long and a 500-mile race requires 200 laps to complete. However, the race is considered official after half its distance (100 laps and 250 miles (400 km)) has been completed.

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[jkapp]

Feb 26, 2017 10:32:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

A bunch of cars doing the same thing 200 times. Awarding people for a wide variety of doing things well including vastly different "best pictures".

Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway is 2.5 miles (4 km) long and a 500-mile race requires 200 laps to complete. However, the race is considered official after half its distance (100 laps and 250 miles (400 km)) has been completed.

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I think it's more: someone winning a race by how much they spent on a car, and someone winning an Academy award by how much they spent on the Academy

[Value Buy]

Feb 26, 2017 10:13:28 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feb 26, 2017 9:37:37 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

We have the Daytona 500 race on the southeast redneck coast, and the Academy Awards on the alt left west coast.

Could we have a more obvious divided political country being represented by polar opposites on any given day, other than on election day? 

From a reply in the link you failed to mention in your opening post (or is it just an uncanny coincidence you and Fox came up with the same thought):

"How about this? Hollywood, the silver screen, famous movie stars.... pure America. Big badass V8 stock cars ripping around a track while we crush beers and wave the stars and bars and listen to a little country music.... pure America. Both of these things contribute to our culture and the story of what makes our country so awesome. Stop trying to get attention by further driving a political wedge between the peoples of this great country. -Sincerely, The Majority of America"

NASCAR vs. Hollywood is a tale of two Americas

Now when I think, I need a link?
Good to know.
FYI, I got the "thought" reading two different articles in my morning paper, which were on different pages of the paper, and neither article talked about divisiveness of the two groups. The Hollywood Oscar article did ponder if there would be a lot of political talk, but did not mention Daytona 500.
Sorry for expressing an independent thought that we might want to reflect on here.

[thyme4change]

I was wondering if the nomination for Hell or High Water was a way for the academy to say "We see you" to the types of people who may have voted for Trump. Manchester by the Sea's characters may have been Trump supporters too, but it was told with a different voice. The message in Hell or High Water was clear - the system is out to get the poor, forgotten, hard working rural Americans. The banks that hold the loans are the bad guys. Guns are cool. Take care of yourself.

And how many awards will Hell or High Water get? I'd bet zero.

[tallguy]

Feb 26, 2017 9:37:37 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

We have the Daytona 500 race on the southeast redneck coast, and the Academy Awards on the alt left west coast.

Could we have a more obvious divided political country being represented by polar opposites on any given day, other than on election day? 

Well, I for one am a West Coast liberal thinker, and not only have I never seen any of the pictures or performances nominated but consider ANY awards show to be right down there with infomercials, soap operas, and most reality TV as the worst things ever broadcast.  And in fact I had a woman almost break up with me because I refused to even let her watch that stupid trash (the Academy Awards) at my house.  On the other hand, I have on occasion (though more when I was younger) watched stock-car racing.  I go back to the David Pearson, Cale Yarborough, Bobby and Allison, Richard Petty days.  Given a choice between the two...?  

To answer your question, No, I don't consider it a valid line of demarcation. 

[zibazinski]

I could care less about either one.

[OldCoyote]

Geeeees, I feel left out, The last movie I went to was E.T.

[djAdvocate]

please stop saying "alt left".  it is not a thing.

although i agree with the two America's thing, i think it has been going on since the 50's.

it is just out in the open now.  and i think that is wonderful.

[NoNamePerson]

I guess I should rescind my American citizenship since I haven't watched awards shows in who knows how long and have never seen a nascar race. What island should the rest of us move to so this country will be one big STEPFORD citizens place??

[Value Buy]

Feb 26, 2017 21:11:47 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

please stop saying "alt left".  it is not a thing.

although i agree with the two America's thing, i think it has been going on since the 50's.

it is just out in the open now.  and i think that is wonderful.

Sorry, I disagree.
The alt left movement is very alive, and since it lost the election, has lost all semblance of fairness and is in all out attack mode and is using fake news.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 27, 2017 9:20:38 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 26, 2017 21:11:47 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

please stop saying "alt left".  it is not a thing.

although i agree with the two America's thing, i think it has been going on since the 50's.

it is just out in the open now.  and i think that is wonderful.

Sorry, I disagree.
The alt left movement is very alive, and since it lost the election, has lost all semblance of fairness and is in all out attack mode and is using fake news.

when you decide to leave your alt universe let me know.  until then, i shant respond to any more of your ridiculousness.

[dezailoooooo]

Feb 26, 2017 12:36:53 GMT -5 jkapp said:

Feb 26, 2017 10:32:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

A bunch of cars doing the same thing 200 times. Awarding people for a wide variety of doing things well including vastly different "best pictures".

Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway is 2.5 miles (4 km) long and a 500-mile race requires 200 laps to complete. However, the race is considered official after half its distance (100 laps and 250 miles (400 km)) has been completed.

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I think it's more: someone winning a race by how much they spent on a car, and someone winning an Academy award by how much they spent on the Academy

wasn't best picture winner a independent film...Miami based...many actors were amatures...not sure of budget...

[dezailoooooo]

Feb 27, 2017 9:20:38 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 26, 2017 21:11:47 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

please stop saying "alt left".  it is not a thing.

although i agree with the two America's thing, i think it has been going on since the 50's.

it is just out in the open now.  and i think that is wonderful.

Sorry, I disagree.
The alt left movement is very alive, and since it lost the election, has lost all semblance of fairness and is in all out attack mode and is using fake news.

aaahhhh  the old "fake news  " of our POTUS  again...

[ u know u are embarressing your self again...nothing special, just thought u should know...in case u care..if not....well then just carry on...]

[Deleted]

Feb 26, 2017 10:32:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

A bunch of cars doing the same thing 200 times. Awarding people for a wide variety of doing things well including vastly different "best pictures".

Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway is 2.5 miles (4 km) long and a 500-mile race requires 200 laps to complete. However, the race is considered official after half its distance (100 laps and 250 miles (400 km)) has been completed.

BEST PICTURE

Arrival

Fences

Hacksaw Ridge

Hell or High Water

Hidden Figures

La La Land

Lion

Moonlight

Manchester by the Sea

It's all in the presentation. I'm learning from the liberal mainstream media. Here goes... 40 cars traveling at 200+ mph within inches of each other in a death defying show of unscripted driving skill vs standing in front of a camera saying memorized lines under the stress of hot illumination lights.

[Deleted]

Feb 27, 2017 12:01:54 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

Feb 27, 2017 9:20:38 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Sorry, I disagree.
The alt left movement is very alive, and since it lost the election, has lost all semblance of fairness and is in all out attack mode and is using fake news.

aaahhhh  the old "fake news  " of our POTUS  again...

[ u know u are embarressing your self again...nothing special, just thought u should know...in case u care..if not....well then just carry on...]

I remember other media wars with the White House,  Quote;  "Until this point, the conflict had been mostly a one-sided affair, with Fox News hosts promoting tax day “tea parties” that focused protest on the new president, and more recently bringing down the presidential adviser Van Jones through rugged coverage that caught the administration, and other news organizations, off guard. During the health care debate, Fox News has put a megaphone to opponents, some of whom have advanced far-fetched theories about the impact of reform. And even farther out on the edge, the network’s most visible star of the moment, Glenn Beck, has said the president has “a deep-seated hatred for white people.”

Administration officials seemed to have decided that they had had enough.

“We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,” Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, said in an interview with The New York Times."

  The whole media thing seems all so familiar these days.   

www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjju7q887DSAhWM4yYKHeulCJYQFgggMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2009%2F10%2F18%2Fweekinreview%2F18davidcarr.html&usg=AFQjCNGhccMIEdP6l1BbTD4Dij6cpZExTw&bvm=bv.148073327,d.eWE

[dezailoooooo]

Feb 27, 2017 13:26:50 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Feb 27, 2017 12:01:54 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

aaahhhh  the old "fake news  " of our POTUS  again...

[ u know u are embarressing your self again...nothing special, just thought u should know...in case u care..if not....well then just carry on...]

I remember other media wars with the White House,  Quote;  "Until this point, the conflict had been mostly a one-sided affair, with Fox News hosts promoting tax day “tea parties” that focused protest on the new president, and more recently bringing down the presidential adviser Van Jones through rugged coverage that caught the administration, and other news organizations, off guard. During the health care debate, Fox News has put a megaphone to opponents, some of whom have advanced far-fetched theories about the impact of reform. And even farther out on the edge, the network’s most visible star of the moment, Glenn Beck, has said the president has “a deep-seated hatred for white people.”

Administration officials seemed to have decided that they had had enough.

“We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,” Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, said in an interview with The New York Times."

  The whole media thing seems all so familiar these days.   

www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjju7q887DSAhWM4yYKHeulCJYQFgggMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2009%2F10%2F18%2Fweekinreview%2F18davidcarr.html&usg=AFQjCNGhccMIEdP6l1BbTD4Dij6cpZExTw&bvm=bv.148073327,d.eWE

Dioge...the fact is...and u know it is true..if u don't believe me I will go back and list all in order...our new President ,  he lies..purposely...and when caught out , which in todays world a juvenile could discover and prove..either blames the lie on others or refuses to admit to it even as it stares him in the face...he goes out of his way to embaress our long time allies..see Australia, Mexico...even a bit , Canada...all eleven asian allied nations...he's threatening everyone and seems surprised when the countries and their leaders stand up to him.

He is suggesting spending $ big time...$25 Billion for a wall..[not counting the maintenace of] 15,000 new hires of security and immigration folks at a average of $50,000  plus..[looked up new hire salary] plus all the extra costs so associated..vehicles, badges, weapons, office space,computers, etc...and it seems by so many experts really not needed...or even effective in stopping illegaks crossing..plus more have been leaving then coming in..

His attacks now on all media sources..print over the air...as all false...because he doesn't like the reporting they do...even claims the TONE is wrong....Tone....   This is the POTUS...Not some school yard juvenile who fell and skinned his knee...crying about the tone..the "unfair...unfair"......

This media thing is like nothing that happened before...and then he has the gall to come out and complains what a mess he inhabited....Give me a break already...325 million people...a three trillion GDP...there is always problems...especially in a new administration...but his constant crying...his choices of how to solve problems..even problems thatv really aren't there...the possible deportation of millions ..most having been here for two decades or more..living peacefully..fulfilling important jobs..needed to be done in fields in homes...

He says won't deportations won't  happen but gives his agents marching orders to just carry out their job..mandate...find a illegal...and yes there are millions...whoever..criminal or criminal because here illegally..same guilt...deport..kids who are American citizens..same as my and your kids...to be left...just deport the parent...

This is our new Potus and it seems you and millions are fine with him... ...u will make excuses for him with the " it's just Donald being Donald" on his actions and accept him as such...I and others and the media thank the lord do not and they will continue to call him out.

[zibazinski]

Feb 27, 2017 13:15:22 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Feb 26, 2017 10:32:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

A bunch of cars doing the same thing 200 times. Awarding people for a wide variety of doing things well including vastly different "best pictures".

Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway is 2.5 miles (4 km) long and a 500-mile race requires 200 laps to complete. However, the race is considered official after half its distance (100 laps and 250 miles (400 km)) has been completed.

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It's all in the presentation. I'm learning from the liberal mainstream media. Here goes... 40 cars traveling at 200+ mph within inches of each other in a death defying show of unscripted driving skill vs standing in front of a camera saying memorized lines under the stress of hot illumination lights.

Messing that up as well. Stupid mouthpieces.

[Tiny]

Feb 27, 2017 13:15:22 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Feb 26, 2017 10:32:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

A bunch of cars doing the same thing 200 times. Awarding people for a wide variety of doing things well including vastly different "best pictures".

Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway is 2.5 miles (4 km) long and a 500-mile race requires 200 laps to complete. However, the race is considered official after half its distance (100 laps and 250 miles (400 km)) has been completed.

BEST PICTURE

Arrival

Fences

Hacksaw Ridge

Hell or High Water

Hidden Figures

La La Land

Lion

Moonlight

Manchester by the Sea

It's all in the presentation. I'm learning from the liberal mainstream media. Here goes... 40 cars traveling at 200+ mph within inches of each other in a death defying show of unscripted driving skill vs standing in front of a camera saying memorized lines under the stress of hot illumination lights.

you forgot to add the part for Dayton where the spectators wait in fear and anticipation of a fiery death of a driver and possibly the deaths of people in the stands.

And for the Academy awards  it's all about SEX!!!  the spectators are expecting to see beautiful people in beautiful clothes they can fantasize about while waiting with baited breath for a clothing malfunction OR a major star couple break up or some other juicy gossip...

[Virgil Showlion]

Feb 26, 2017 10:32:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

A bunch of cars doing the same thing 200 times. Awarding people for a wide variety of doing things well including vastly different "best pictures".

Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway is 2.5 miles (4 km) long and a 500-mile race requires 200 laps to complete. However, the race is considered official after half its distance (100 laps and 250 miles (400 km)) has been completed.

BEST PICTURE

Arrival

Fences

Hacksaw Ridge

Hell or High Water

Hidden Figures

La La Land

Lion

Moonlight

Manchester by the Sea

Are these actual nominees?

I haven't even heard of any of these, except for "La La Land", and I have no clue what that one's about.

[Virgil Showlion]

Feb 27, 2017 13:15:22 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Feb 26, 2017 10:32:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

A bunch of cars doing the same thing 200 times. Awarding people for a wide variety of doing things well including vastly different "best pictures".

Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway is 2.5 miles (4 km) long and a 500-mile race requires 200 laps to complete. However, the race is considered official after half its distance (100 laps and 250 miles (400 km)) has been completed.

BEST PICTURE

Arrival

Fences

Hacksaw Ridge

Hell or High Water

Hidden Figures

La La Land

Lion

Moonlight

Manchester by the Sea

It's all in the presentation. I'm learning from the liberal mainstream media. Here goes... 40 cars traveling at 200+ mph within inches of each other in a death defying show of unscripted driving skill vs standing in front of a camera saying memorized lines under the stress of hot illumination lights.

Nice try, but you'd still have to pay me good money to watch cars drive around in a circle 200 times.

Of course, you'd also have to pay me good money to watch celebrities accept awards and pontificate for two hours.

If something blows up at either of the two events, I might take a peek.

[tallguy]

Most tracks are oval.  Daytona is technically a tri-oval.  Would that make a difference to you?  Circles would be terrible for racing, so I can understand not wanting to watch that.   

[Virgil Showlion]

Feb 27, 2017 17:13:49 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Most tracks are oval.  Daytona is technically a tri-oval.  Would that make a difference to you?  Circles would be terrible for racing, so I can understand not wanting to watch that.   

What exactly is a tri-oval?

In my mind I'm picturing a 3-leaf clover shape, but I'm pretty sure I've never seen a race track that looks like that.

[Virgil Showlion]

Now if this is the shape of the race track, with the overlapping portions being actual intersections, I could see the race getting interesting.

[billisonboard]

Feb 27, 2017 16:58:12 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Feb 26, 2017 10:32:05 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

A bunch of cars doing the same thing 200 times. Awarding people for a wide variety of doing things well including vastly different "best pictures".

Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway is 2.5 miles (4 km) long and a 500-mile race requires 200 laps to complete. However, the race is considered official after half its distance (100 laps and 250 miles (400 km)) has been completed.

BEST PICTURE

Arrival

Fences

Hacksaw Ridge

Hell or High Water

Hidden Figures

La La Land

Lion

Moonlight

Manchester by the Sea

Are these actual nominees?

I haven't even heard of any of these, except for "La La Land", and I have no clue what that one's about.

I googled and pasted a list that was labeled Best Picture. Beyond that,    Honestly, I don't care about the cars going in circles tri-ovals nor a vote on which this or that was "best"

[tallguy]

Feb 27, 2017 17:23:50 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Feb 27, 2017 17:13:49 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Most tracks are oval.  Daytona is technically a tri-oval.  Would that make a difference to you?  Circles would be terrible for racing, so I can understand not wanting to watch that.   

What exactly is a tri-oval?

In my mind I'm picturing a 3-leaf clover shape, but I'm pretty sure I've never seen a race track that looks like that.

They take the name from the two shapes, triangle and oval.  It is an oval with a bulge on one side so that it resembles a triangle with rounded corners.  One long straightaway and two shorter ones.

[Virgil Showlion]

Feb 27, 2017 17:26:40 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 27, 2017 16:58:12 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Are these actual nominees?

I haven't even heard of any of these, except for "La La Land", and I have no clue what that one's about.

I googled and pasted a list that was labeled Best Picture. Beyond that,    Honestly, I don't care about the cars going in circles tri-ovals nor a vote on which this or that was "best"

Not watching and not caring are my status quo too. But not even hearing about these has me feeling old and disconnected. Unless Hollywood really plumbed the depths of obscurity to find nominees.

Now that I think about it, I seem to recall my parents mentioning they'd seen "Arrival". But still.

[Virgil Showlion]

Feb 27, 2017 17:27:57 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Feb 27, 2017 17:23:50 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

What exactly is a tri-oval?

In my mind I'm picturing a 3-leaf clover shape, but I'm pretty sure I've never seen a race track that looks like that.

They take the name from the two shapes, triangle and oval.  It is an oval with a bulge on one side so that it resembles a triangle with rounded corners.  One long straightaway and two shorter ones.

Gotcha.

I've heard tell the only reason people go to race car rallies is to talk about cars, drink beer, and eat junk food. The actual racing is more like a side attraction to fill in the gaps.

[tallguy]

I haven't set foot in a theater to watch a movie in over 30 years.  Anything I see is well after it would have been eligible for any award.  Even if I cared about any award.