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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 12, 2017 14:41:55 GMT -5
Last night while you were sleeping, the Senate debated and ultimately passed a budget resolution that provides a pathway for Republicans to strip health care coverage away from 30 million Americans without having a single Democratic vote. As the Senate debated the resolution that provides a blueprint to repeal the Affordable Care Act, both Republicans and Democrats had the opportunity to offer a flurry of rapid-fire amendments in a process known as “vote-a-rama.” While these votes are non-binding, the exercise provides an opportunity for senators to show where their colleagues stand on a number of key issues. And the results are not pretty. thinkprogress.org/gop-vote-essential-health-benefits-694a83fbaaf6#.r38f34ah1From no longer protecting people with pre-existing conditions, to making it harder for veterans to access care, it really isn't pretty.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 12, 2017 14:47:23 GMT -5
I have posted that on my personal FB page. Along with the phone number to call your senator.
So it starts..............The "Do Nothing" Republican controlled Congress is finally doing something - working to strip Americans of healthcare coverage...
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 12, 2017 14:51:11 GMT -5
I have posted that on my personal FB page. Along with the phone number to call your senator. So it starts..............The "Do Nothing" Republican controlled Congress is finally doing something - working to strip Americans of healthcare coverage... I expected nothing less from that bunch. "I've got mine. The rest of you can piss off!"
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Post by Shooby on Jan 12, 2017 15:40:37 GMT -5
I wasnt sleeping.
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2017 15:41:38 GMT -5
Gloating keep you awake?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 12, 2017 15:47:41 GMT -5
because............. TRANSPARENCY!
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Post by Shooby on Jan 12, 2017 15:47:47 GMT -5
Hells yeah
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Post by Tiny on Jan 12, 2017 15:49:16 GMT -5
LOL! I liked the way the senator's interviewed about the over night voting, were all like - "These votes mean nothing!" and how they laughed that it was unimportant to the bigger picture - brushing off the reporters rather condescendingly - because EVERYONE knows the voting they did was meaningless.
Um, aside from the obvious... doesn't that brush off beg the question of why are we paying them to WASTE TIME on frivolous sessions/voting/etc
I'm also concerned that once Trump becomes president he'll be spending a lot of time on Social Media... which is a huge time waster. As an employee I'm discouraged from spending too much time on the internet and/or my phone. How much 'work' will Trump actually be doing if he's responding to ever tom, dick, and harry that's posting unpleasant things about him
Sounds like we've got a lot of government wasting time and MY money.... oh wait... that's what the republicans were complaining about the Democrats....
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Post by Shooby on Jan 12, 2017 15:50:25 GMT -5
He might need to tweet his NCAA brackets while on the golf course.
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2017 15:51:27 GMT -5
Trump cares very little about golf.
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Post by Shooby on Jan 12, 2017 15:54:23 GMT -5
I know, right?!
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Post by busymom on Jan 12, 2017 15:57:39 GMT -5
I do not have the words to express what I feel about the GOP right now. (Actually, I have some, but I'd get banned...)
There is nothing more cowardly than stripping health care from those who need it the most. Especially those with preexisting conditions who have no other good options. GOP: party of the Christians, my a$$. Any good Christian knows you're supposed to take care of your neighbor the same as yourself. The only God the GOP worships is this:
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Post by Shooby on Jan 12, 2017 15:59:12 GMT -5
Oh ok. Lol!!!!
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 12, 2017 16:00:41 GMT -5
LOL! I liked the way the senator's interviewed about the over night voting, were all like - "These votes mean nothing!" and how they laughed that it was unimportant to the bigger picture - brushing off the reporters rather condescendingly - because EVERYONE knows the voting they did was meaningless.
Um, aside from the obvious... doesn't that brush off beg the question of why are we paying them to WASTE TIME on frivolous sessions/voting/etc
I'm also concerned that once Trump becomes president he'll be spending a lot of time on Social Media... which is a huge time waster. As an employee I'm discouraged from spending too much time on the internet and/or my phone. How much 'work' will Trump actually be doing if he's responding to ever tom, dick, and harry that's posting unpleasant things about him
Sounds like we've got a lot of government wasting time and MY money.... oh wait... that's what the republicans were complaining about the Democrats.... Except that now we know how they'll vote when it DOES count.
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Post by busymom on Jan 12, 2017 16:05:09 GMT -5
You'll stop laughing Shooby, if you have a relative who has a preexisting condition. I've spents hours each year fighting with insurance companies for DS when he was little. You really think it's a joke to get your kid coverage? You'd better hope & pray that denial of coverage never happens to someone you love. It's no joke. It's reality. It's evil. And, it's wrong.
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Post by kadee79 on Jan 12, 2017 16:21:54 GMT -5
Let's not forget that we have choices in 2 yrs....and we can over-turn then what they do today or until then!!! IF you vote for the right people!
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Post by Tiny on Jan 12, 2017 17:22:47 GMT -5
I do not have the words to express what I feel about the GOP right now. (Actually, I have some, but I'd get banned...)
There is nothing more cowardly than stripping health care from those who need it the most. Especially those with preexisting conditions who have no other good options. GOP: party of the Christians, my a$$. Any good Christian knows you're supposed to take care of your neighbor the same as yourself. The only God the GOP worships is this:
And that's what they are doing... they are taking care of their neighbors (who look like them, talk like them, and act like them). People who AREN"T "like you" <-- the generic you ARE NOT your neighbors. It's perfectly Christian. I don't believe Christianity "reads" the Old Testament as being "all inclusive" when it mentions "one's neighbors"...
Christianity (and most religions) aren't really about Justice or Fairness for HUMANS they are about the deals humans have made with the god(s) .
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Post by Tiny on Jan 12, 2017 17:32:15 GMT -5
You'll stop laughing Shooby , if you have a relative who has a preexisting condition. I've spents hours each year fighting with insurance companies for DS when he was little. You really think it's a joke to get your kid coverage? You'd better hope & pray that denial of coverage never happens to someone you love. It's no joke. It's reality. It's evil. And, it's wrong. Yes, I have an unemployable friend with some live long serious conditions and if she looses her heathcare coverage OR if she has to pay much more for it - she will have to face some tough choices - like going to the doctor she cannot pay OR staying home and hoping her respiratory difficulties pass magically by themselves (they NEVER do) and then try to figure out who foots the bill for the ambulance and hospital stay she'll need. Or, if she does go to the ER, get's patched up enough to be sent home - and then struggles at home until she either dies or takes another ambulance ride back to the hospital...
At least with her current sort of expensive ACA coverage - she hesitates less to go to the doctor when she's having a lot of trouble breathing (her current inhalers and nebulizer treatments aren't working so well), who then prescribes the meds that keep her OUT of the ER/Hospital.
Yeah, I can't wait until she's un-insurable under the new plan(s) or coverage is totally beyond her (and her families) ability to pay.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2017 17:34:07 GMT -5
He might need to tweet his NCAA brackets while on the golf course. Much like his presidency will be.
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Post by movingforward on Jan 12, 2017 18:07:55 GMT -5
You'll stop laughing Shooby , if you have a relative who has a preexisting condition. I've spents hours each year fighting with insurance companies for DS when he was little. You really think it's a joke to get your kid coverage? You'd better hope & pray that denial of coverage never happens to someone you love. It's no joke. It's reality. It's evil. And, it's wrong. Apparently, it is all a joke as long as it doesn't affect them personally. It is unimaginable to me that someone would laugh about people losing healthcare coverage. Talk about cold... Well, many that will lose their healthcare voted for these people. They knew getting rid of Obamacare was going to be the first order of business. I just don't get it.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jan 12, 2017 18:16:12 GMT -5
I wish for the people who are laughing about this, or think it's good in some way, to have it happen to themselves.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jan 12, 2017 18:56:12 GMT -5
I wish for the people who are laughing about this, or think it's good in some way, to have it happen to themselves. I thought I was the only one who had these feelings. From day 1 I have felt that the ONLY healthcare plan we should offer to the lawmakers is the one the are willing to provide to the people of this country (who do pay for theirs). How much do you want to bet that these "make 'Murica great again" senators would have thought twice about their wonderful voting last night...
Last night, Republicans:
blocked an amendment that would have protected people with pre-existing conditions blocked an amendment that makes it easier for young people to stay on their parent’s plans until they are 26 blocked an amendment allowing contraception to be covered under health insurance blocked an amendment protecting the expansion of Medicaid blocked an amendment that would make it easier for children to be covered under Medicare/CHIP blocked an amendment that would make it harder to keep veterans from getting coverage from the VA
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Post by moon/Laura on Jan 12, 2017 18:59:23 GMT -5
Well, I guess I wouldn't *really* wish it on anyone.. But it's really easy for people to sit on their holier than thou pedestals and laugh at others' misfortune - until it happens to them.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 12, 2017 19:05:36 GMT -5
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Post by busymom on Jan 12, 2017 19:17:04 GMT -5
It actually makes me sad that a number of people don't "get it" when it comes to problems, until it happens to them.
I guess that's what created "karma".
And just for the record, I don't think anyone should have to do without quality health insurance. But I do wish I could get all of the hours back I've spent on the telephone over the years fighting to either get insurance for DS, or get needed therapies covered.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 12, 2017 19:27:06 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 12, 2017 19:32:20 GMT -5
I wish for the people who are laughing about this, or think it's good in some way, to have it happen to themselves. I wish for them the most painful, untreatable form of cancer. The kind that makes it impossible to work so they lose their job and their healthcare. Something slow and painful that will give them lots of time to think about humerous it is not to have access to medical treatment while living in the richest country in the world.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 12, 2017 19:36:43 GMT -5
Gee, didn't we have a former poster who wished cancer on someone?
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Post by moon/Laura on Jan 12, 2017 19:48:05 GMT -5
zibazinski - "He gets a pass because he's special." Sorry, but you don't know jack on this. You have NO IDEA about the things that go on behind the scenes, so please stop assuming. As far as the "ignorant" statement goes, I don't happen to think it's all that insulting to comment that people don't really know the facts or the ramifications involved here. I'll include myself in that, even.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 12, 2017 19:53:33 GMT -5
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