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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 12, 2017 19:57:31 GMT -5
Gee, didn't we have a former poster who wished cancer on someone? Hahaha...she wished testicular cancer on me. Umm...I guess the Miss in Miss Tequila didn't clue her in to the fact that I don't have testicles!
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 12, 2017 20:00:38 GMT -5
And as usual, even when you say you cannot say it you do anyway, Calling posters ignorant even though you do not name names is totally wrong here. "An embarrassment (sp corrected) to your self".........is an attack. And the mods and Laura allow it to stand. Shame on them. Would you prefer the term "callous"? You quoted a post that has been removed, therefore, I have no comment
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2017 20:06:55 GMT -5
Ms. T,
In this day and age can you ever be sure?
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Post by Kolt! on Jan 12, 2017 20:18:04 GMT -5
How can anyone remotely think taking health insurance from these group of people a good thing?
Oh right. Those that only care about themselves and will cry wolf and heartache when bad health comes knocking on their door and then complain that they don't have the money to cover it or the appropriate health care.
I realize some people had their insurance prices go up. I get it. But, in some ways it was worth it for those that were being denied over and over again because of health issues. And, one day that person could be you.
This is disgusting. Sure, healthcare reforms needs to be made BUT none that take away insurance from the people that TRULY need it.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 12, 2017 20:20:48 GMT -5
Congress has their own health care program and a pension for life after one term. You think they care about us? Some do but some just work on getting elected again. It's a club. Fall in line with the rest of us. Don't think for yourself or your constituents. Hell did you read the bill (any bill) or just show up for an hour to vote. Do what Paul Ryan tells you to do. Trump will even have to listen to Ryan.
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Post by Kolt! on Jan 12, 2017 20:24:59 GMT -5
It's not just Democrats this is going to hurt. It's everybody.
And the sad truth is...some of the people it even could hurt someday don't care because it was from their side and they'll do anything to defend even the most disgusting acts made by their party.
NOT to say Democrats wouldn't in certain situations either because they would. It's just sad to see that this is what The United States has come to in some regards...it's not about what's best for the people it's about defending The Republican or Democratic names and those that are serving those parties... not caring how it ruins people's lives because at the end of the day.. it's more 'important' to defend their party.
Rather you're a Republican or a Democratic I'm sure we all know someone this will TRULY hurt... veterans, someone really ill, were all going to encounter someone in our lives dealing with these repercussions. And the sad truth is...if someone can't get that health care... they may choose to have to die and be in immense pain even if they could be saved because they get their healthcare stripped from them.
And you know who won't have to worry about it? Those men that enacted this and took this away from people...because their pockets are full and I'm certain they'll never have to make those sad choices for themselves or their loved ones...and in fact get the best health care out there..
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 12, 2017 20:32:45 GMT -5
I support making changes to the ACA to make it better. Sure it didn't work like planned as nothing does. When people are involved you can't figure ahead of time their participation. But to repeal it completely with no plan of your own in sight for 2 years (which has been stated by some Republicans) is stupid.
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Post by Kolt! on Jan 12, 2017 20:37:01 GMT -5
I mean I def support changes as well. But, these ones...these ones are not okay. They need to make changes but find a way to make changes that aren't stripping away healthcare from the people that need it the most.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 12, 2017 20:37:26 GMT -5
Would you prefer the term "callous"? You quoted a post that has been removed, therefore, I have no comment That is a copout.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 12, 2017 20:42:02 GMT -5
Actually it's self preservation. The bias is so blatant that it's not even remotely amusing like it used to be.
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2017 20:55:27 GMT -5
Here in Washington there were a handful of counties that had always voted Demo. They flipped to Trump this time even though he and the Repos were quite clear the ACA was a goner. Good luck!
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Jan 12, 2017 20:55:44 GMT -5
Gee, didn't we have a former poster who wished cancer on someone? Hahaha...she wished testicular cancer on me. Umm...I guess the Miss in Miss Tequila didn't clue her in to the fact that I don't have testicles! Maybe whomever it was thought you Miss Tequila...you know... like I miss eating bacon?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 12, 2017 20:57:01 GMT -5
Hahaha...she wished testicular cancer on me. Umm...I guess the Miss in Miss Tequila didn't clue her in to the fact that I don't have testicles! Maybe whomever it was thought you Miss Tequila...you know... like I miss eating bacon? Hahahaha...
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2017 21:00:46 GMT -5
Here in Seattle Miss Tequila could easily be a drag queen moniker at any of numerous clubs on Capitol Hill.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 12, 2017 21:05:40 GMT -5
I remember that and took the bad wish on miss T personally since I had testicular cancer. I didn't find wishing cancer on anyone funny. BTW I know miss T is a female. Seen pics to prove it. Ok just clean pics with friends. Ask her if she can do a cart wheel?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jan 12, 2017 21:09:51 GMT -5
I remember that and took the bad wish on miss T personally since I had testicular cancer. I didn't find wishing cancer on anyone funny. BTW I know miss T is a female. Seen pics to prove it. Ok just clean pics with friends. Ask her if she can do a cart wheel? Of course I can...as long as you use the term "cartwheel" very loosely....hahaha
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 12, 2017 21:13:56 GMT -5
It looked like half a cartwheel to me. Good thing a few of our board friends were there. I think tequila was involved.
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Post by Sharon on Jan 12, 2017 21:22:38 GMT -5
There are other things in the ACA that most people are totally unaware of, administrative simplification rules. These govern a lot of the electronic portions of claims, claim payments, electronic checking of eligibility etc. These rules are not fun but at least they make everyone follow the same regulations and more or less do things the same way. If these go away you can suddenly start having the various players in the electronic game making their own rules and using their own formats.
Electronic payments for claims was one of the big things that came out of this. Banking regulations even changed to accommodate healthcare payments. There have been many struggles, bumps in the road etc as everyone tries to meet the rules, and figure out just what the rules mean. If these rules go away and everyone starts using their own formats, chaos will ensue. How many people are going to be sent to collections because the doctor got a payment but can't figure out which patient it belongs to.
We handle payments for multiple providers and sometimes we have troubles even figuring out which provider the payment belongs to. We aren't sent a name, because that would be much to easy, we get a number that means something to the insurance company. We have a couple of full time employees whose job it just to make these matches when it is not readily apparent whose getting paid or why.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 12, 2017 21:43:28 GMT -5
It actually makes me sad that a number of people don't "get it" when it comes to problems, until it happens to them.
I guess that's what created "karma".
And just for the record, I don't think anyone should have to do without quality health insurance. But I do wish I could get all of the hours back I've spent on the telephone over the years fighting to either get insurance for DS, or get needed therapies covered. While I never have has a problem with health insurance, I am very familier with that problem as my beautiful late brother was uninsurable, was a diabetic with all of the problems associated with that disease..amputations, eyesight, liver damage...and really was up s creek when it came to care until.. He lived in Boca Raton Florida..and in a meeting with a older Doctor here working for the city..not sure what his position is..Boca is a very wealthy town and back in the day was real big into sugar production..sugar cane..and the shakers and movers of the day wanted their workers to have good medical coverage so set up a fund for that purpose. To make it short..this older doctor, who also was a lawyer, knew were all the bodies were buried, loved fighting the establishment...took a liking to my brother..don't get me wrong , was a advocate for helping all those in need, and got my brother in the program and from then on he was set.. this Doctor went out of his way to make sure he got best treatment, doctors, hospitals...He had a open sore on his foot..typic diabetic problem..the creme to treat it..u used tiny amount..was over $900.00 a tube..after a fight..he got that for him..he was covered as long as he was in Boca..very lucky...but understand what u went through and as much as u want to help, unless u are a Donald or possible a few to be unnamed here..[from what they are indicating] the costs of medical care with out coverage is just impossible to be met..
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 12, 2017 21:49:38 GMT -5
Actually it's self preservation. The bias is so blatant that it's not even remotely amusing like it used to be. Theres no bias..just a fair assessment on the comments and if u don't care for that assessment..well then u say the place is biased...
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 12, 2017 23:14:10 GMT -5
And as usual, even when you say you cannot say it you do anyway, Calling posters ignorant even though you do not name names is totally wrong here. "An embarrassment (sp corrected) to your self".........is an attack. And the mods and Laura allow it to stand. Shame on them. You poor thing you..really having a tough day baby..so sorry,, Actually I was talking to Moon on her thread not referring or mentioning anyone not even close , just agreeing with her assessment of some posters here who she has a hard time understanding their posting etique....and agreed and safely metioned a generic ''wish to how to respond " to some of those..but understanding never really doing so...So what is your problem Value... Please tell me what thread you discussed this topic with Moon. I would like to read her response, because I am really pretty good at betting she did not give you ways to bend the COC. I would be totally shocked if she suggested this. And just so you know, I am not having a bad day, baby.......gee, words almost can hurt
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 12, 2017 23:16:40 GMT -5
Actually it's self preservation. The bias is so blatant that it's not even remotely amusing like it used to be. Theres no bias..just a fair assessment on the comments and if u don't care for that assessment..well then u say the place is biased... I agree with the word Assessment.
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Post by busymom on Jan 12, 2017 23:32:35 GMT -5
This is the one sentence of the article that describes what the GOP did late last night:
"Republicans say they want to replace Obamacare with something better. But in just one night’s votes, they indicated that they are not willing to take a stand to ensure that people with pre-existing conditions, women, children, veterans, young adults, people with disabilities, and struggling families can continue to access the affordable coverage they need going forward."
So, they've basically proven, in one night, they don't care about veterans, children, women, people with preexisting conditions, young adults, nor do they care about the poor. So, who exactly are they FOR?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 12, 2017 23:35:18 GMT -5
This is the one sentence of the article that describes what the GOP did late last night:
"Republicans say they want to replace Obamacare with something better. But in just one night’s votes, they indicated that they are not willing to take a stand to ensure that people with pre-existing conditions, women, children, veterans, young adults, people with disabilities, and struggling families can continue to access the affordable coverage they need going forward."
So, they've basically proven, in one night, they don't care about veterans, children, women, people with preexisting conditions, young adults, nor do they care about the poor. So, who exactly are they FOR?
White, male billionaires. You had to ask?
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 13, 2017 4:00:33 GMT -5
Theres no bias..just a fair assessment on the comments and if u don't care for that assessment..well then u say the place is biased... I agree with the word Assessment. tsk, tsk...not nice....I know your Mom taught u to play nice but u have to do it your way...
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 13, 2017 4:18:40 GMT -5
You poor thing you..really having a tough day baby..so sorry,, Actually I was talking to Moon on her thread not referring or mentioning anyone not even close , just agreeing with her assessment of some posters here who she has a hard time understanding their posting etique....and agreed and safely metioned a generic ''wish to how to respond " to some of those..but understanding never really doing so...So what is your problem Value... Please tell me what thread you discussed this topic with Moon. I would like to read her response, because I am really pretty good at betting she did not give you ways to bend the COC. I would be totally shocked if she suggested this. And just so you know, I am not having a bad day, baby.......gee, words almost can hurt why I play this game I have no idea... Post 21 and 22. On 21 as u can see Moon states her feelingson a topic.......on#22..I quote her and express my thoughts... Just as a wish..not directed at any one specific just at those who she too is not happy with..also realizing here we don't / can't do that..because it would turn the zone into a cahotic mess... So no I didn't seek permission to bend the C of C..in fact there was no need for her to reply at all..didn't expect her to... If this silliness really bothers u...seem it does...suggest PM her..easy to do..she is very accomadating to P M's as long as one doesn't over do it...she has other things on her plate beyond listening to silly yadda, yaddas between posters here.........this complaint of your IMHO is one of those silly ones.......but that is me. Regarding how your day is going...glad to hear that...just seems you were...as some lady friends of mine have mentioned.."a bad hair day"..if I mentioned they seemed out of sorts..
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 13, 2017 4:48:21 GMT -5
tsk, tsk...not nice....I know your Mom taught u to play nice but u have to do it your way... I'm looking on the crystal ball and seeing a poster - not naming any names - who will regale us with her exploits with rich Canadian men. and then go on to tell us all how we suck LoL. I was going to say "and then how she's a feminist because she's single and dating all these rich guys and not doing household chores and stuff" but that would have been over the top. huh...? I am looking at the same crystal ball and have no idea what your yapping about, mind clearing this up so we can agree or disagree with u..?
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Post by Opti on Jan 13, 2017 6:38:38 GMT -5
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Post by Shooby on Jan 13, 2017 7:47:03 GMT -5
Of course, you didn't seem to care that Obamacare passed Without a Single Republican vote. Lol. Tsk tsk, what hypocrisy.
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Post by busymom on Jan 13, 2017 8:28:40 GMT -5
At least the ACA (Obamacare) helped people who had trouble getting insurance otherwise. Name me anything positive that comes from depriving citizens from getting health insurance? (Oh, you have a preexisting condition? No insurance for you!)
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