I was much happier on the Politics board in 2012

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Jan 10, 2017 0:34:08 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 9, 2017 23:46:18 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Actually it's not.

i'm done arguing about this:

www.snopes.com/donald-President Trump/

First and foremost: Snopes is a bad source if you want to convince someone of truth or fact in your favor.

Secondly: Even though it's a seriously flawed source, Your beloved Snopes says this:

One of those documents was Frederick Trump's March 1896 naturalization form [PDF, page 7], on which his signature was rendered "Trump."

According to my handy calculator, 1896 predates Donald Trump's birth, in 1946, by 50 years


And then there's this little gem at the end of that same Snopes article:

At any rate, neither Trump nor his father ever bore the surname President Trump

So... as I said... Donald Trump never has been Donald President Trump.


Since you are "done arguing this" and posted verification, that YOU approve of, that I'm right... does that mean you acquiesce?

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Jan 10, 2017 0:53:07 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 10, 2017 0:47:57 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Not opinion.

Raul Castro
Charles Manson

Just to name two.

decorum was a very careful choice of words, Richard.

i stand by it.

and again, it is my opinion, so it is not your place to refute it.

you have yours, i have mine.

You are free to call what you post "opinion" if you like. I wasn't taking issue with that. What I posted wasn't opinion. There are many people much less deserving of decorum than Trump. Simple fact.

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Jan 10, 2017 0:55:34 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 10, 2017 0:52:20 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

I wasn't referring to Trump's sense of class.  And I think you know that I don't mean it in a "classist" (rich vs. poor, lord vs. serf, or lower vs. middle vs. upper) way... but in the class that a gentleman shows when he tips his hat, or holds the door for a lady, or otherwise shows that he understands civility... something that anyone can do, regardless of their "station" in life.

i know what you mean.  and again, i stand by what i said.

if i show class, it is ONLY for some purpose.  there is no purpose it showing class to a poop throwing orangutan, Richard.  he will just keep throwing poop.

But do you need to throw poop back?

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 1:05:54 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jan 10, 2017 0:55:34 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i know what you mean.  and again, i stand by what i said.

if i show class, it is ONLY for some purpose.  there is no purpose it showing class to a poop throwing orangutan, Richard.  he will just keep throwing poop.

But do you need to throw poop back?

it beats the hell out of what i would LIKE to do.

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Jan 10, 2017 1:07:59 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:05:54 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

But do you need to throw poop back?

it beats the hell out of what i would LIKE to do.

Of that I have no doubt.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 0:52:20 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jan 10, 2017 0:04:10 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

begging your pardon, but i find the very IDEA of class loathsome.

as to any other word you would like to substitute for class, i think we have covered most of them.

he has no comity, no decorum, and no basic respect for others, so i have none for him. 

you and zib?  sure.  you have boundaries.  you have some sense of decency.  he has none.

I wasn't referring to Trump's sense of class. And I think you know that I don't mean it in a "classist" (rich vs. poor, lord vs. serf, or lower vs. middle vs. upper) way... but in the class that a gentleman shows when he tips his hat, or holds the door for a lady, or otherwise shows that he understands civility... something that anyone can do, regardless of their "station" in life.

dude.  here is the exchange again:

you: There are others much less worthy than him
me: your opinion, not mine.

ok, so you are claiming the first thing is NOT your opinion.  fine.  then how about this:

you: There are others much less worthy than him
me: NOT IN MY OPINION.

end of discussion.  i am no longer making claims about what you THINK is opinion. 

sheesh.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 1:03:14 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jan 10, 2017 0:34:08 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i'm done arguing about this:

www.snopes.com/donald-President Trump/

First and foremost: Snopes is a bad source if you want to convince someone of truth or fact in your favor.

does it make you happy to think i care what your opinion of Snopes is?

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 1:03:14 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

So... as I said... Donald Trump never has been Donald President Trump.

sure he has.  i call him that at least a few times a day. 

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Jan 10, 2017 1:16:33 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:03:14 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

So... as I said... Donald Trump never has been Donald President Trump.

sure he has.  i call him that at least a few times a day. 

If I called you a 300 year old mermaid named Susan... would that make you a 300 year old mermaid named Susan?


I didn't say "he's never been CALLED" I said "he's never BEEN".

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Jan 10, 2017 1:15:24 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:03:14 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

First and foremost: Snopes is a bad source if you want to convince someone of truth or fact in your favor.

does it make you happy to think i care what your opinion of Snopes is?

Doesn't make me happy or sad... I was simply just pointing out a fact. If you want to convince someone of the truth, it's best to use an inerrantly reliable source... something that Snopes is definitely and provably not.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 1:20:46 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:16:33 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

sure he has.  i call him that at least a few times a day. 

If I called you a 300 year old mermaid named Susan... would that make you a 300 year old mermaid named Susan?


I didn't say "he's never been CALLED" I said "he's never BEEN".

darn.  you did say that, didn't you?

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 1:22:49 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:15:24 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

does it make you happy to think i care what your opinion of Snopes is?

Doesn't make me happy or sad... I was simply just pointing out a fact. If you want to convince someone of the truth, it's best to use an inerrantly reliable source... something that Snopes is definitely and provably not.

to be useful in this case, they only have to be more reliable than President Trump.

they are. 

[NastyWoman]

Jan 10, 2017 1:27:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:22:49 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Doesn't make me happy or sad... I was simply just pointing out a fact. If you want to convince someone of the truth, it's best to use an inerrantly reliable source... something that Snopes is definitely and provably not.

to be useful in this case, they only have to be more reliable than President Trump.

they are. 

now THAT is setting the bar low! Or is it just something that's impossible? I'm leaning toward the latter.

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Jan 10, 2017 1:27:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:22:49 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Doesn't make me happy or sad... I was simply just pointing out a fact. If you want to convince someone of the truth, it's best to use an inerrantly reliable source... something that Snopes is definitely and provably not.

to be useful in this case, they only have to be more reliable than Trump.

they are. 

Your average bookie is more reliable than Trump... so that's not saying much for Snopes.




*yes, I freely admit I changed your quote to reflect his actual name.

[dezailoooooo]

Jan 10, 2017 0:34:08 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 9, 2017 23:46:18 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Actually it's not.

i'm done arguing about this:

www.snopes.com/donald-President Trump/

thanks for posting that snopes article..had no clue..really too, no interest, in why the "President Trump" by some..just thought a way for the non supporters to diss the man..kind of like my " the Donald"...now know there was a reason behind it...not really important but nice to know..as far as my "the Donald"..I think it has a nice ring to it...

[Green Eyed Lady]

A 300 year old mermaid named Susan?

[zibazinski]

Susan is a lovely name.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 10:25:44 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

A 300 year old mermaid named Susan?

if it made a better acronym, i would use it.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 10:47:29 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Susan is a lovely name.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 4:46:02 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:27:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

to be useful in this case, they only have to be more reliable than President Trump.

they are. 

Your average bookie is more reliable than Trump... so that's not saying much for Snopes.




*yes, I freely admit I changed your quote to reflect his actual name.

thanks for letting me know, so i could change it back.

edit: i would advise you to not do that in the future, if you don't want me changing your posts to my spelling.    i was nice.  this time.

[Virgil Showlion]

Jan 10, 2017 1:05:54 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jan 10, 2017 0:55:34 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i know what you mean.  and again, i stand by what i said.

if i show class, it is ONLY for some purpose.  there is no purpose it showing class to a poop throwing orangutan, Richard.  he will just keep throwing poop.

But do you need to throw poop back?

I miss the old, principled DJ.

"When did we get so SMALL as a nation? Or is it that we were always small, and now feel at home flying that freak flag?"
   - DJ, 2013

[djAdvocate]

Jan 10, 2017 11:39:33 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:05:54 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

But do you need to throw poop back?

I miss the old, principled DJ.

"When did we get so SMALL as a nation? Or is it that we were always small, and now feel at home flying that freak flag?"
   - DJ, 2013

what you mean is that you miss the foolish sentimentalism that beguiles the reality of America.

miss away.

[Virgil Showlion]

Jan 10, 2017 11:42:32 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 10, 2017 11:39:33 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I miss the old, principled DJ.

"When did we get so SMALL as a nation? Or is it that we were always small, and now feel at home flying that freak flag?"
   - DJ, 2013

what you mean is that you miss the foolish sentimentalism that beguiles the reality of America.

miss away.

"Never be a cynic, even a gentle one. Never help out a sneer, even at the devil."
   - Vachel Lindsay

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 9, 2017 16:16:20 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

I can't believe how long these ex president bastards live sucking off the great medical care, secret service protection, and salaries. There needs to be a limit to all of it. As well as the politicians.

Are you suggesting that at some point we euthanize them?

[dondub]

Let's face it. Zibi hates anyone receiving a check from the govt. and actors that exercise their 1st amendment rights.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 9, 2017 22:36:27 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jan 9, 2017 15:55:55 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

You'd have to be blind not to see the possibility. GOP voters are principled. If Trump and the GOP don't deliver on immigration and border security, the repeal of ObamaCare, better trade deals, and tax reform-- the White House, the House, and the Senate will be gone so fast their heads will spin.

If GOP voters were Principled, NONE of the 17 that ran would have been nominated... including Trump.

Trump won because he unabashedly promoted the precise issues that voters had been sending the GOP to Washington to address since 1980. And not coincidentally, Trump won states the GOP hasn't won since the 1980's. And if Trump doesn't deliver, it's hello GOP 2008. This wasn't actually a point I was making to start a discussion or an argument. It's a statement of fact.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 10, 2017 0:55:34 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 10, 2017 0:52:20 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

I wasn't referring to Trump's sense of class.  And I think you know that I don't mean it in a "classist" (rich vs. poor, lord vs. serf, or lower vs. middle vs. upper) way... but in the class that a gentleman shows when he tips his hat, or holds the door for a lady, or otherwise shows that he understands civility... something that anyone can do, regardless of their "station" in life.

i know what you mean.  and again, i stand by what i said.

if i show class, it is ONLY for some purpose.  there is no purpose it showing class to a poop throwing orangutan, Richard.  he will just keep throwing poop.

When Trump pins a woman down and rapes her, biting her lower lip to keep control over her-- call me.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 10, 2017 1:22:49 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jan 10, 2017 1:15:24 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

does it make you happy to think i care what your opinion of Snopes is?

Doesn't make me happy or sad... I was simply just pointing out a fact. If you want to convince someone of the truth, it's best to use an inerrantly reliable source... something that Snopes is definitely and provably not.

It's not an "opinion". Snopes IS what it is.

[mroped]

Jan 10, 2017 12:48:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jan 10, 2017 0:55:34 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i know what you mean.  and again, i stand by what i said.

if i show class, it is ONLY for some purpose.  there is no purpose it showing class to a poop throwing orangutan, Richard.  he will just keep throwing poop.

When Trump pins a woman down and rapes her, biting her lower lip to keep control over her-- call me.

Based on his past and latest behavior, that is not out of question!
Slim chance as it may be but c'mon, we are talking about a man that takes pride in doing stupid things!

(looks like you researched the orangutans sexual behavior. Makes me wonder how many people find time for that or similar subjects but fail to research the individual they are about to elect as their president?! I guess there it goes something like "Thanks God for Fox News!"
And that's how we end up here!)

[zibazinski]

Jan 10, 2017 12:33:16 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jan 9, 2017 16:16:20 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

I can't believe how long these ex president bastards live sucking off the great medical care, secret service protection, and salaries. There needs to be a limit to all of it. As well as the politicians.

Are you suggesting that at some point we euthanize them?

No but all the perks should end after ten years max.