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Post by formerroomate99 on Jan 9, 2017 13:42:27 GMT -5
It was a 50 year old social worker with a master's degree. She was in charge of a lot of people, not a worker bee. And I was a teenager at the time and she knew it. well, coming from a more recent liberal, i find this view DEPLORABLE. so, you have that, i guess. i am sure it doesn't balance it out, but it is something. It would never occur to me to think you have that view DJ. But the fact that a person like this was running a home for wayward teens basically guaranteed that the cycle of poverty would continue. And seeing someone like that in a position of power made me think twice about going into that line of work, which was likely her intention. This is why people on the right just want to get rid of the welfare state. It isn't because we want people to suffer. It is because we see it as causing more suffering in the long run, by encouraging self destructive behavior. And this is why I laugh every time you make blanket statements about liberals being more accepting of other viewpoints. They aren't. What happened to me is fairly common.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 9, 2017 13:47:49 GMT -5
well, coming from a more recent liberal, i find this view DEPLORABLE. so, you have that, i guess. i am sure it doesn't balance it out, but it is something. It would never occur to me to think you have that view DJ. But the fact that a person like this was running a home for wayward teens basically guaranteed that the cycle of poverty would continue. And seeing someone like that in a position of power made me think twice about going into that line of work, which was likely her intention. This is why people on the right just want to get rid of the welfare state. It isn't because we want people to suffer. It is because we see it as causing more suffering in the long run, by encouraging self destructive behavior. And this is why I laugh every time you make blanket statements about liberals being more accepting of other viewpoints. They aren't. What happened to me is fairly common. i believe this is GENERALLY true. in fact, i consider it a PROBLEM with liberalism. we tend to tolerate shit we should not tolerate.
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Post by dondub on Jan 9, 2017 14:02:15 GMT -5
Obama was called a racist on this forum just last week.
But like GEL said...no one is all that sure of the definition anymore.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 9, 2017 14:06:05 GMT -5
it has a pretty clear definition. you are a racist if you believe one race is superior to the other, and you advocate for retaining that superiority.
but you are right, most racists don't recognize that definition. they seem to think that calling out racism is racist. it isn't.
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Post by dondub on Jan 9, 2017 14:07:02 GMT -5
Surprised that poster is unaware of what that 'Muslim issue' means.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 9, 2017 14:07:47 GMT -5
i think that over half believe that Obama is a Muslim, and 1/3 think he is not a US citizen. those are the people i am calling "deplorables". it's deplorable to think someone is muslim? if they aren't a Muslim? yes.wow, that's terrible. why would it be bad to think someone is of a given faith? that's a good thing to ask the millions who have brought up this accusation, as if it were something BAD. like....President Trump.There's nothing wrong with being of that faith. How is it a perjorative (sic)? it isn't. thanks for twisting my milquetoast post into a bigoted fever dream. i just love this board.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 9, 2017 14:10:28 GMT -5
it's deplorable to think someone is muslim? if they aren't a Muslim? yes.wow, that's terrible. why would it be bad to think someone is of a given faith? that's a good thing to ask the millions who have brought up this accusation, as if it were something BAD. like....President Trump.There's nothing wrong with being of that faith. How is it a perjorative (sic)? it isn't. thanks for twisting my milquetoast post into a bigoted fever dream. i just love this board. Well, it is easier to twist someone's words than to acknowledge the truth.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 9, 2017 14:14:50 GMT -5
it isn't. thanks for twisting my milquetoast post into a bigoted fever dream. i just love this board. Well, it is easier to twist someone's words than to acknowledge the truth. if this is any indication of how the next four years are going to go, i had better keep working on preparing my liferaft.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 9, 2017 14:18:33 GMT -5
it has a pretty clear definition. you are a racist if you believe one race is superior to the other, and you advocate for retaining that superiority. but you are right, most racists don't recognize that definition. they seem to think that calling out racism is racist. it isn't. i agree with your definition. I think that being called a racist is less meaningful because too many on the left have thrown the accusation at people with 0% racist motivation or intention. i have stated unequivocally, that it is WRONG to call President Trump voters de facto racist. i never have been a fan of guilt by association.
For example, if you opposed Obama's plan for America, you're a racist. If you want to cut welfare, you must be racist, etc. it loses the sting and just ticks people off to be called racist, when nothing they are doing or saying is racist. it think that's the crux of where people are coming from. could be. there could be other reasons as well, but i don't share your propensity for speculation.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 9, 2017 14:20:44 GMT -5
Well, it is easier to twist someone's words than to acknowledge the truth. WTF are you talking about? So is it good or bad to think someone belongs to a certain faith? Why? I mean, I guess there might be a few faiths that people would universally think are bad (Satanism? Mansonism?) but generally, I find that someone's faith tends to inform their views on the world. i think the real problem is that those that were saying Obama was a Muslim considered it an insult.
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Post by dondub on Jan 9, 2017 14:27:41 GMT -5
Not just an insult. It was another way to convince folks he was anti-American and not one of us.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 9, 2017 14:34:41 GMT -5
never overused...to be one..to acknowledge it and be proud to be known as one...better u then I...as far as useless, well it puts into a better context of where u are coming from so now when ever a zibazinski post is seen readers know that u are a self admitted racist and take your message as they like... According to zibazinski it seems value fits that bill too.... In the 80's, I was accused of being racist and a nazi for daring to suggest that welfare for life wasn't a good idea. It didn't matter that I hadn't mentioned race and that we both knew that there are just as many white people on welfare as any other race. This is how certain people on the left try to silence anyone who disagrees with them. And this is why charges of racism don't mean anything anymore. And it is too bad that the left has cried wolf too many times. Real racism is out there, and it hurts a lot of innocent people. not trying to silence any one...self admitted..no apologies for it..guess its "real racism" not sure they are so innocent.. In todays world that it's still out there and by many of influence is in a way surprising.. from my standpoint a shame but it is what it is and to have them known..not such a bad thing IMHO..that they are here among us I could do without personally, but that too is the way of the world I guess..
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 11, 2017 1:34:31 GMT -5
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thanks fuck right off.
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