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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 6, 2017 17:44:40 GMT -5
Russian hacking into Democratic files and releasing damaging information in Hillery. I just hope we don't have to go through this everytime there is a difference of opinion of what the Donakld believes and what others feel is correct..better to say nouthing till facts are clearer,,keep tweets to a minimum..stop with the knee jerk reactions that seem to get him in trouble because in most cases so far..his initial reactions are just plain wrong. I don't believe any thinking person would mind have better relations with Russia, Putin but the truth is three Presidents tried and failed..both parties..so for Donald, try again, more power to u , but don't think the forner POTUS were idiots and incompetent..be nice but also be wary...u are now, or soon to be the POTUS ..time to start acting the part..which means being the leader of the most powerful nation in the world and the democratic countries leader and world spokesperson...unless u want to with draw from that position. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ to read complete article click on link below.. www.yahoo.com/news/trump-accepts-u-intelligence-russia-hacking-chief-staff-150842378.html============================================ Trump acknowledges Russia role in U.S. election hacking: aideReuters By Toni Clarke and Dustin Volz ReutersJanuary 8, 2017 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President-elect Donald Trump accepts the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia engaged in cyber attacks during the U.S. presidential election and may take action in response, his incoming chief of staff said on Sunday.Reince Priebus said Trump believed Russia was behind the intrusions into the Democratic Party organizations, although Priebus did not clarify whether the president-elect agreed that the hacks were directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin. "He accepts the fact that this particular case was entities in Russia, so that's not the issue," Priebus said on "Fox News Sunday." It was the first acknowledgment from a senior member of the Republican president-elect's team that Trump had accepted that Russia directed the hacking and subsequent disclosure of Democratic emails during the 2016 presidential election. Trump had rebuffed allegations that Russia was behind the hacks or was trying to help him win, saying the intrusions could have been carried out by China or a 400-pound hacker on his bed. ========================================= It seems now the Donald is upset with the Dems because they allowed easy hacking into their files..still not so p off at the Russians who did the hacking but really p at those who left the door unlocked....understand want to try good / better relations with Putin and hus country but come on already Donald..all we ask, a little but of Presidential doing before the swearing in day..a little bit of competence shown for the doubters among us..asking to much Donald? -------------------- "They are totally embarrassed!" Trump goes on hours-long tweetstorm over Russian hacking Jeremy Berke,Business Insider Sat, Jan 7 9:24 AM PS President-elect Donald Trump said Saturday that the only reason the hacking of the Democratic National Committee is discussed is because Democrats are "totally embarrassed" about their election loss, and he urged friendlier relations with Russia. "Only reason the hacking of the poorly defended DNC is discussed is that the loss by the Dems was so big that they are totally embarrassed!" Trump said as part of a Saturday morning tweetstorm. His comments came a day after the declassification of a US intelligence report that concluded Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, ordered a campaign to influence the US election and hurt Hillary Clinton's chances of winning. Trump pointed to "gross negligence" by the DNC as the reason the hacking took place. He also denied suggestions that the Russian hacking could have affected the election results, saying "there was absolutely no evidence that hacking affected the election results" because voting machines weren't "touched." The US intelligence community's report concluded that Russia — led by Putin — developed a "clear preference for President-elect Trump. But it did not assess the impact that Russian activities had on the election outcome, as Business Insider's Pamela Engel reported. The president-elect further touched on his relationship with Russia, saying that only "stupid people" and "fools" would think that having a good relationship with Russia is "bad.""When I am President, Russia will respect us far more than they do now, and both countries will, perhaps, work together to solve some fo the many great and pressing problems and issues of the WORLD!" he tweeted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Trump now says the Russian hacking had absolutly no affect on the outcome of the recent election...Not sure if he said Russia had nothing to do with the hacking the Dems...I guess if he said it we should just go along and agree just "TRUST ME"....WHAT SAY dONALD SUPPORTERS...NEED SOME HELP HERE. www.yahoo.com/news/trump-declares-hacking-had-no-effect-on-the-outcome-of-the-election-203228969.htmlI believe he did say that the intelligence agencys are doing a good job, people are well dedicated...that seems to be a change...this man changes his mind as some lizards change their color which is fine for most of us but this is going to be our new POTUS.. this not good, no matter how u look at it... www.yahoo.com/news/trump-declares-hacking-had-no-effect-on-the-outcome-of-the-election-203228969.html
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jan 7, 2017 11:13:27 GMT -5
If Trump had lost, and folks on the right started whining about the stolen tax returns and the stolen Access Hollywood tape, would you be discussing what a shame it is that stuff gets stolen and released, or would you be telling them that Trump deserved to loose because of what he did and said?
Yes, cybersecurity is important, and an emphasis on it is long overdue. And yes, our enemies are going to continue using the internet to meddle in our affairs.
But nobody forced Hillary to route work emails to her own server. Nobody forced her to take those speaking fees and say what she said. Nobody forced Huma to route state department emails to a Yahoo account or have them stashed on her husband's computer. I've never had a job where doing that sort of thing wouldn't get me fired. And nobody's going to come home in a box if the sensitive information I have gets out. Hillary and the Democrats were a special kind of stupid when it comes to security, and it does speak to their competence in the job. Seriously, who uses the word 'password' as their password like Podesta did? My 9 year old is smarter than that.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 7, 2017 11:28:57 GMT -5
The election is long over..The Donald is the winner, on Jan 20th will be sworn in as the next POTUS....
and yet with all the information being presented to him of Russian, Putin involvement in interferring with our electorial systems...actually having done this to other countries too, and other hackings of our countrys services.. to try and influence elections for their reasons and benefits...
even his own party leaders have agreed, Russia is guilty of...because he feels it diminishes his victory over the Hillery..she did win the populer vote..[so get over it Donald] , he will diss his own security service, ridicule them as being incompetent thus he is ignoring their input...
better to believe Putin, Russia and wickileaks founder..a fugitive...by dissing our own intelligence agencies he is upsetting the workers there...having top officials leaving and qitting basically saying to the Donald, FU...go perch on it..
all because he thinks that he can control Putin...make nice to Putin....and sell the country out to a less powerful country...one that besides energy..oil, gas..arms..makes, produces nothing the world wants...yet bows down to that man and country...makes little sense to me.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jan 7, 2017 12:06:05 GMT -5
No, it's not in Trump's best interest to shout from the rooftops that Putin (and not the voters) put him in power. I don't remember Obama giving credit to the guy that secretly filmed Romney saying something stupid. And I doubt Hillary would be singing the praises of the guy who stole the Access Hollywood tape if she had won.
But it's also no accident that Trump has a bunch of generals with combat experience in his cabinet. These guys know full well the cost of bad or compromised intelligence. You don't get very far in business without having a good poker face. Let's see what happens.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 7, 2017 13:53:53 GMT -5
No, it's not in Trump's best interest to shout from the rooftops that Putin (and not the voters) put him in power. I don't remember Obama giving credit to the guy that secretly filmed Romney saying something stupid. And I doubt Hillary would be singing the praises of the guy who stole the Access Hollywood tape if she had won. But it's also no accident that Trump has a bunch of generals with combat experience in his cabinet. These guys know full well the cost of bad or compromised intelligence. You don't get very far in business without having a good poker face. Let's see what happens. Don't think there are to many generals that don't have combat experience...well actually now that I think about it..Ike was one...not even sure if he actually served with troops..[[meaning commanding small unit..usually as second / 1st lieutenant..if in Infantry branch , u seve first as commander of platoon...learn from your non coms..] Actually too...Kennedy was getting the advice from all of his military advisors, joint chiefs too, as well as his civilien advisors, cabinets and experts brought in for their expertise..."must invade Mr. President, as soon as possible..yadda. yadda.." and as found out later when Soviet Union disappeared..Castro was ready to go down rather then lose the revelution..not only did he have the warheads for the intermediate weapons..but the tacticke ones..to be used againsy ?Invasion Force, troops, ships...and wanted to use them.[ all happened..oval office at time was recording all conversations on this..] Thankfully Kennedy ignored and came up with the blockade..so combat Generals not always the best for decision making...
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jan 7, 2017 14:08:21 GMT -5
He didn't... Its the CIA who aknowledge that the hacking had no effect on the election outcome....Trump is simply repeating the CIA's own assessment.
Better the enemy you know perhaps? Russia may be short of money...(Since the drop in the price of oil and the expense of the Syrian conflict) ...but the general consensus is that Putin is a very dangerous man.
It may be an idea not to antagonise him by sending destroyers into the Black Sea....or building up the military hardware on the Russian borders. Do we really want anther cold war?....or even a conflict that no-one can win?
Oh please....Do you really think the CIA don't do this?
Welcome to the real world.
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Post by dondub on Jan 7, 2017 14:13:40 GMT -5
First we had the righties thinking Obama was a wuss for not militarily intervening when Putin pushed into Crimea. Now they want us to kiss Putin ass. I wish they would make up their minds.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jan 7, 2017 14:14:11 GMT -5
and if this madness had continued and much of the worlds population was obliterated?
50+ years down the line. Castro is gone and it doesn't even matter.
Its outrageous that it even got to this point in the first place. What the hell were they thinking?
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 7, 2017 14:21:37 GMT -5
He didn't... Its the CIA who aknowledge that the hacking had no effect on the election outcome....Trump is simply repeating the CIA's own assessment. Better the enemy you know perhaps? Russia may be short of money...(Since the drop in the price of oil and the expense of the Syrian conflict) ...but the general consensus is that Putin is a very dangerous man. It may be an idea not to antagonise him by sending destroyers into the Black Sea....or building up the military hardware on the Russian borders. Do we really want anther cold war?....or even a conflict that no-one can win? Oh please....Do you really think the CIA don't do this? Welcome to the real world. Oh I am of the real world..been there and done it in my youth... Yes times are changing but we are still the only Super Power..no Russia is not...As the world changes we most likely will not be as influential as we have been in the past...but as a leader in nations we do get benefits.. To make nice with Putin..[Putin as of now and the foreseeable future is Russia] is fine..possible come to a agreement on some areas of influence..say Syria..Crimia..[maybe] but at same time..to let know continued interference with our allies and ourselves by cyber warfare is over..not to be tolerated or there will be repercussions and we are more then capable to do them..[we are] We are a great power,,only super one, both militarily and economically and no by being strong and standing up where our standings are threatened..no there will not be a shooting war....now will the Donald act that way in his dealings with Putin...don't know..hope so...don't believe so but pray..hope I am wrong.
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Post by kadee79 on Jan 7, 2017 14:24:59 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who said what about influencing the election...they don't KNOW how many people decided one way or the other due to all the malarkey that was put "out there". You would have to have an individual head count and trust that folks answered honestly...that won't ever happen!
And DT keeps saying that the Russians didn't hack any voting machines...no one, to my knowledge, ever said they did! It was influence peddling they were doing to get people to vote for DT rather than any other candidates, especially Hillary since they don't like her much...and maybe even fear her! The fear part is pure speculation on my part.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 7, 2017 14:31:34 GMT -5
and if this madness had continued and much of the worlds population was obliterated? 50+ years down the line. Castro is gone and it doesn't even matter. Its outrageous that it even got to this point in the first place. What the hell were they thinking? On this one...cold war was still in affect and on this one it was Krushev who instigated it by putting the warheads and missles into Cuba..he was removed from power some months later for his wrong decisions, allowed to live out his years in peace..not something that was a guarantee in the Soviet Union at this time.. it was estimated 60 million dead in America..I and family would have been gone..lived in Connecticut...defense plants, air craft..Submarine capital of the world,,,New London....I was a kid..Dad was worried..has spent over two years in Europe , third Army..General Patton..had experienced war..remember he and uncle, cousins and some neighbors sitting around talking...realized I guess nothing really could do...not the time where many average folks had second homes in the boonies to escape too. Does any of these wars ever matter..mine, Nam...now they are our allie...Germany, Japan..our buddies..they start , out of control...believe I had read or seen, can't remember which,,Britain lost 60,000 of their people in one day, one battle..the "Somme"..[that can't be correct..have to look up]Son of a b---h I was correct,,, " The first day on the Somme was, in terms of casualties, also the worst day in the history of the British army, which suffered 57,470 casualties. These occurred mainly on the front between the Albert–Bapaume.."
before battle was over over a million casualties on both sides,,and at Verdun..battled a long time..French / German casualties over time of engagement..600,000 dead,,Soviets second WW..27 million dead....
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 7, 2017 14:42:11 GMT -5
So it's OK for him to invade neighboring countries? Does Hitler come to mind? As the world watched him invade countries.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 7, 2017 15:18:37 GMT -5
The hacking Mr. Pants On Fire claimed didn't exist? That hacking?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 7, 2017 17:17:57 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who said what about influencing the election...they don't KNOW how many people decided one way or the other due to all the malarkey that was put "out there". You would have to have an individual head count and trust that folks answered honestly...that won't ever happen! And DT keeps saying that the Russians didn't hack any voting machines...no one, to my knowledge, ever said they did! It was influence peddling they were doing to get people to vote for DT rather than any other candidates, especially Hillary since they don't like her much...and maybe even fear her! The fear part is pure speculation on my part. Trump desperately wants to protect the idea he won the presidency fair and square based solely upon his ideas and perceived leadership abilities. Trump's ego will not allow him to even question the idea he had help whether he knew about it ahead of time or not.
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Post by Shooby on Jan 7, 2017 17:36:17 GMT -5
I really can't care about this stupid hacking story when your Sec of State and POTUS didn't care for 8 yrs. And, with Obama interfering with Israel. Sorry.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 7, 2017 17:43:23 GMT -5
I really can't care about this stupid hacking story when your Sec of State and POTUS didn't care for 8 yrs. And, with Obama interfering with Israel. Sorry. You will be.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 7, 2017 17:57:18 GMT -5
I really can't care about this stupid hacking story when your Sec of State and POTUS didn't care for 8 yrs. And, with Obama interfering with Israel. Sorry. Huh... POTUS, Sec of State..eight years....think your doing it again....no comprende.....
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 7, 2017 18:10:30 GMT -5
Never mattered to me, I wasn't going to vote for her regardless of anything anyone had to say about her, good or bad. I'm just glad DJ gave me an idea for an alternative I was happy with.
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Post by Shooby on Jan 7, 2017 18:28:00 GMT -5
I really can't care about this stupid hacking story when your Sec of State and POTUS didn't care for 8 yrs. And, with Obama interfering with Israel. Sorry. Huh... POTUS, Sec of State..eight years....think your doing it again....no comprende..... Yes. Hacking. Cyber security. Computers? Yoga emails. Capiche?
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Post by dondub on Jan 7, 2017 18:36:22 GMT -5
That is the genius of the righties....we don't have to care what our guy did because your guy did it. Now we whined about what your team did over and over for eight years (and still are). But now that our team is doing it. Whatevs.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 7, 2017 18:45:29 GMT -5
Huh... POTUS, Sec of State..eight years....think your doing it again....no comprende..... Yes. Hacking. Cyber security. Computers? Yoga emails. Capiche? Not really...more important..u going to watch uconn break their record of 90
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Post by Ryan on Jan 7, 2017 19:24:35 GMT -5
Dems are upset that their own emails were used against them. Not even propoganda, but things they actually said. Oh dear
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Post by Ryan on Jan 7, 2017 19:26:26 GMT -5
You have to love the irony though. HRC deleted a bunch of emails because it would damage her chances at a presidency, then a whole new bunch of emails ended up destroying her (according to her). Life is funny sometimes.
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Post by Opti on Jan 7, 2017 19:30:41 GMT -5
You have to love the irony though. HRC deleted a bunch of emails because it would damage her chances at a presidency, then a whole new bunch of emails ended up destroying her (according to her). Life is funny sometimes. There is no irony. She expected some emails might damage her, and they did. Just not the ones she expected originally that might be used that way.
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Post by Shooby on Jan 7, 2017 19:32:06 GMT -5
That is the genius of the righties....we don't have to care what our guy did because your guy did it. Now we whined about what your team did over and over for eight years (and still are). But now that our team is doing it. Whatevs. Oh i learned that from the Left! Thanks for the lesson!
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Post by Opti on Jan 7, 2017 19:48:15 GMT -5
Dems are upset that their own emails were used against them. Not even propoganda, but things they actually said. Oh dear Are you really ignoring the propaganda that Podesta is into Satan or that there was a Pedophile ring because some crazies decided pizza didn't mean pizza in the emails?
www.salon.com/2016/12/10/pizzagate-explained-everything-you-want-to-know-about-the-comet-ping-pong-pizzeria-conspiracy-theory-but-are-too-afraid-to-search-for-on-reddit/
But a small number of people on message boards like 4chan and Reddit were more interested in seemingly mundane emails about small social gatherings and parties hosted by Podesta and his friends. Specifically, they noticed that these emails mentioned pizza a few times.
Boldly disregarding the simple explanation that the emailers, like most Americans, eat pizza regularly and find it to be an easy food to serve and eat while socializing, self-appointed Internet detectives decided that “pizza” was a complex code for pedophilia. Using this code, Pizzagaters claim, Podesta and his well-heeled pals could brazenly discuss their plans for throwing disgusting sex parties exploiting enslaved children, in between exchanges about Clinton’s campaign strategy and setting up conference calls.
And for all their talk of protecting children, the conspiracy theorists are the reason a man with a gun jeopardized the safety of dozens of people, including children and families, on a Sunday afternoon. They are the reason people are combing the Internet for photos of children to project dark ideas of rape and torture onto. They are the reason men and women in D.C. are fearing for their lives when they show up to work at a restaurant. Conspiracy theories like these seem immune to debunking, and if someone really believes there’s satanic darkness at the heart of this lie, perhaps there’s no measure too extreme for them to take in response.
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Post by Ryan on Jan 7, 2017 19:57:46 GMT -5
You have to love the irony though. HRC deleted a bunch of emails because it would damage her chances at a presidency, then a whole new bunch of emails ended up destroying her (according to her). Life is funny sometimes. There is no irony. She expected some emails might damage her, and they did. Just not the ones she expected originally that might be used that way. Oh it's irony all right! It just bit her in the keister!
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 7, 2017 20:00:01 GMT -5
I don't know of anyone that voted for Trump that said the emails meant a thing to them. They just voted against hil plain and simple. Held their nose while doing so but no way would have voted for her. Dems have no one to blame for this loss but the DNC machine.
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Post by Opti on Jan 7, 2017 20:07:51 GMT -5
I don't know of anyone that voted for Trump that said the emails meant a thing to them. They just voted against hil plain and simple. Held their nose while doing so but no way would have voted for her. Dems have no one to blame for this loss but the DNC machine. The emails might not have meant anything to the Trump voters you knew. But I think it did mean something to some of them. 46% of Trump voters believed at the time this poll was taken that Pizzagate was true. Pedophilia is pretty socially unacceptable. If you believed it was true, I'd be surprised if you voted for Clinton anway.
today.yougov.com/news/2016/12/27/belief-conspiracies-largely-depends-political-iden/
On the other hand, nearly half of Trump supporters give at least some credence to the Pizzagate rumors. In contrast, 57% of Clinton voters say that is definitely not true (some, however, answered that it could be true),
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