Their, there and they are aka they're

[naughtybear]

Is this difficult to grasp or am I just expecting too much out of people?

[Chocolate Lover]

Your expecting way too much out of them.




(It hurt me to type that and leave it that way)

[weltschmerz]

Jan 5, 2017 17:20:33 GMT -5 naughtybear said:

Is this difficult to grasp or am I just expecting too much out of people?

Drives me nuts! English is my third language, and if I can grasp it, why can't native English speakers?

[movingforward]

Every now and then I will type really fast and use it wrong.  Not because I don't know but because I am typing faster than my brain.  It drives me crazy. I can't leave it that way and I always go back in real quick and edit. 

[sesfw]

Somehow I think spelling and definitions have gone to the pit of obsolescence along with cursive writing.

To, too, two are more examples

[naughtybear]

I guess even if I am typing it as the wrong one my brain sees it and I correct it. I think some (a large amount by what I see) just really doesn't get it.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

And spell check won't help if you don't know grammar. 

[movingforward]

Jan 5, 2017 17:37:20 GMT -5 sesfw said:

Somehow I think spelling and definitions have gone to the pit of obsolescence along with cursive writing.

To, too, two are more examples

That one REALLY drives me crazy and I see people in my office using it wrong all the time.  It is one thing on a message board (maybe someone isn't thinking all that clearly) but in an office email.  No, just no!

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Easy to avoid. Use to, also and 2. 

[movingforward]

While we are on the subject...I always say "X and I went to the movies" (example). I was always taught this is correct but IRL, on television, on this board, etc. I hear people saying "me and X." Did something change in the proper English language and I just missed it?  This drives me nuts! I hear educated people saying it ALL the time.  It is annoying as hell. 

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I was taught this.

X went to the movies.
I went to the movies.
So together it is X and I went to the movies. Me didn't go to the movies.

[moon/Laura]

Jan 5, 2017 17:38:20 GMT -5 naughtybear said:

I guess even if I am typing it as the wrong one my brain sees it and I correct it. I think some (a large amount by what I see) just really doesn't get it.

Don't get it, not doesn't.

He (singular) doesn't get it.
Some (plural) don't get it.

Sorry. I had to.

[naughtybear]

HAHAh, I was scarfing down kung pao chicken and will admit to not proof reading that. I will also admit that it was a particular post on here that post was aimed at (hence messing up the singular vs plural) . I had to go back and read that because I was like wth was I trying to say there.

[suesinfl]

Jan 5, 2017 17:50:57 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

I was taught this.

X went to the movies.
I went to the movies.
So together it is X and I went to the movies. Me didn't go to the movies.

This is exactly how I learned distinguish the difference.

[weltschmerz]

Jan 5, 2017 17:50:57 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

I was taught this.

X went to the movies.
I went to the movies.
So together it is X and I went to the movies. Me didn't go to the movies.

Yep. Take the other person out of the sentence and see if it still makes sense.

[movingforward]

Jan 5, 2017 17:50:57 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

I was taught this.

X went to the movies.
I went to the movies.
So together it is X and I went to the movies. Me didn't go to the movies.

Same here but I hear people saying me all over the place and putting it first and then the other person's name. 

[naughtybear]

No, it was used twice and both times were different but the wrong one. It made me laugh, then cry a little for the English language (just joking on that) I see it daily enough on FB for me to think are we not teaching this anymore?

[suesinfl]

I worked with a few people that were English language Nazis. Of course they all had a master's degree in English so that helped me a lot. Plus I think all the reading I do also has helped. 

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I'm surprised I got this right since I'm an engineer who can't spell (thank you spell check) and never had an English grammar class. 

[dannylion]

Jan 5, 2017 17:47:13 GMT -5 movingforward said:

While we are on the subject...I always say "X and I went to the movies" (example). I was always taught this is correct but IRL, on television, on this board, etc. I hear people saying "me and X." Did something change in the proper English language and I just missed it?  This drives me nuts! I hear educated people saying it ALL the time.  It is annoying as hell. 

This was apparently a big deal in education at some point.   There is a cohort of people were harangued about the incorrectness of using "me and X" as the subject of a sentence to the point that they seem to have become traumatized about using "X and me" at any time even when it is correct. They have come to believe that only "X and I" is ever correct in any context.  Thus, we have people proudly declaring that "Mortimer gave the buggy whip to X and I" or "Dorcas told X and I about the sale on smoked eels" and similar solecisms, believing they are speaking correctly.   Sets my teeth on edge.  One of my favorite shows (Mythbusters) was guilty of this.  It made me sad. 

[rob base]

Axially it's knot two hard a concept

[movingforward]

Jan 5, 2017 18:16:47 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Jan 5, 2017 17:47:13 GMT -5 movingforward said:

While we are on the subject...I always say "X and I went to the movies" (example). I was always taught this is correct but IRL, on television, on this board, etc. I hear people saying "me and X." Did something change in the proper English language and I just missed it?  This drives me nuts! I hear educated people saying it ALL the time.  It is annoying as hell. 

This was apparently a big deal in education at some point.   There is a cohort of people were harangued about the incorrectness of using "me and X" as the subject of a sentence to the point that they seem to have become traumatized about using "X and me" at any time even when it is correct. They have come to believe that only "X and I" is ever correct in any context.  Thus, we have people proudly declaring that "Mortimer gave the buggy whip to X and I" or "Dorcas told X and I about the sale on smoked eels" and similar solecisms, believing they are speaking correctly.   Sets my teeth on edge.  One of my favorite shows (Mythbusters) was guilty of this.  It made me sad. 

No, I know there are appropriate times to use the word me over I but I hear people using the word me when it is completely incorrect (or maybe I am just incorrect ). 

[rob base]

Also axially it's AKA (Caps) & knot aka (lowercase)

I mean, everyone knows (or should know) acronyms are usually capitalized ...like NASA.

This really irritates me. This is basic stuff people.

[moon/Laura]

Unless you're Rob, who likes to act "ignant" (to coin a phrase an old friend used to use) on purpose.

My Dad, especially, used to zap me when I'd ask "Can I go ride my bike?"

I don't know. Are you able to ride your bike?

What he wanted me ask was "May I" (permission) rather than "Can I" (ability to).

[dannylion]

Jan 5, 2017 18:21:34 GMT -5 movingforward said:

Jan 5, 2017 18:16:47 GMT -5 dannylion said:

This was apparently a big deal in education at some point.   There is a cohort of people were harangued about the incorrectness of using "me and X" as the subject of a sentence to the point that they seem to have become traumatized about using "X and me" at any time even when it is correct. They have come to believe that only "X and I" is ever correct in any context.  Thus, we have people proudly declaring that "Mortimer gave the buggy whip to X and I" or "Dorcas told X and I about the sale on smoked eels" and similar solecisms, believing they are speaking correctly.   Sets my teeth on edge.  One of my favorite shows (Mythbusters) was guilty of this.  It made me sad. 

No, I know there are appropriate times to use the word me over I but I hear people using the word me when it is completely incorrect (or maybe I am just incorrect ). 

Oh, I knew you understood that. I was just pointing out that at some point the problem you mentioned was actually addressed by educators, but the result of addressing the problem was to create another problem that is equally annoying. Maybe there is a certain segment of the population that is genetically predisposed to being unable to distinguish between subject and object or between when to use "me" and when to use "I". Or maybe they're just stupid and can't help it and we should just pity them.

[naughtybear]

Eating my kung pao chicken took precedence over typing with two hands and tapping that shift key after the first time.

[rob base]

May bee the peeps typing "there, their, they're" were eat ting sum thing two.....

[alabamagal]

What r u peeps talkin bout?

[naughtybear]

Naw, they be consistent, they ain't be eating their kung pao chicken. Same people on my FB feed day in and day out, they be not knowing they grammar.

[cronewitch]

I wasn't educated as a child. My parents didn't care, teachers problem, not their job to educate me. I didn't learn to read past a 2nd grade level until 6th grade. I took remedial math, history and English but the classes didn't catch me up at all they just gave easy work to keep you out of the hard classes. Remedial English for example had us read paperback books and give oral book reports. I was 11th grade so could read then so read one or two books a day until they kicked me back to non remedial English. That English gave me detention every day for flunking test but never actually taught anything.

So I was almost 50 before the internet and grammar people started correcting people and explaining these rules. I started learning spelling after word processors had spell check. Now I am 68 and getting up to not so bad but still remember a worker teasing me for using your instead of you're because I teased him about using semi-weekly when he meant bi-weekly and he thanked me so I wrote your welcome.

They should teach this stuff in school but they don't at least they don't to all the kids. I moved every year so missed some because it wasn't taught the same time in all schools. I was in college before I found out what a square root was. They gave me remedial math that didn't teach that in 9th grade then didn't require math in high school if you took bookkeeping it counted as a math.

I finished a degree in accounting and passed the CPA exam when my mom asked if I was learning disabled at age 43. I asked why she asked and she said because I never learned to spell. My IQ is not low and if they schools didn't teach me this stuff I expect a lot of people weren't taught it either.