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Post by billisonboard on Nov 23, 2016 21:36:34 GMT -5
... Sure am glad to find out that several people, women even, have commitment enough to protest ... ... two months from now when it becomes convenient enough for their otherwise busy schedules. Sudge commitment! really?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 23, 2016 21:46:50 GMT -5
Protests are scheduled on Jan 19 and 20. The one on the 19th is an anti-Trump protest. The Jan 20 Women's March on Washington (WMW) is also slated in large cities all over the country. I know several women planning to participate. Is the women's march in Washington on the 20th or 21st? I am seeing conflicting dates. Any women's march on the 20th would conflict with the inauguration probably at the same location.. linkMy. mistake Tenn, The anti Trump march (of which I know little) is the 20th The WMW is the 21st. Thanks for the catch. I'll correct my post.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 23, 2016 21:49:02 GMT -5
Is the women's march in Washington on the 20th or 21st? I am seeing conflicting dates. Any women's march on the 20th would conflict with the inauguration probably at the same location.. linkMy. mistake Tenn, The anti Trump march (of which I know little) is the 19th The WMW is the 21st. Thanks for the catch. I'll correct my post. I just don't want you to miss it!!!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 23, 2016 21:50:13 GMT -5
Protests are scheduled on Jan 19 and 20. The one on the 19th is an anti-Trump protest. The Jan 20 Women's March on Washington (WMW) is also slated in large cities all over the country. I know several women planning to participate. Sure am glad to find out that several people, women even, have commitment enough to protest ... ... two months from now when it becomes convenient enough for their otherwise busy schedules. Sudge commitment! " women even". Yeah, even women. two months from now when it becomes convenient enough for their otherwise busy schedules. Yeah, the weather is SO much milder in January.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 23, 2016 21:50:43 GMT -5
My. mistake Tenn, The anti Trump march (of which I know little) is the 19th The WMW is the 21st. Thanks for the catch. I'll correct my post. I just don't want you to miss it!!! No worries. Flight booked for the 20th.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 23, 2016 21:52:10 GMT -5
Protests are scheduled on Jan 19 and 20. The one on the 19th is an anti-Trump protest. The Jan 20 Women's March on Washington (WMW) is also slated in large cities all over the country. I know several women planning to participate. Sure am glad to find out that several people, women even, have commitment enough to protest ... ... two months from now when it becomes convenient enough for their otherwise busy schedules. Sudge commitment! Aren't you one of the folks who think it's stupid to protest now? I think it's stupid to protest now because protests won't stop Trump from being sworn into office.
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Post by steff on Nov 23, 2016 21:52:23 GMT -5
Protests are scheduled on Jan 19 and 20. The one on the 19th is an anti-Trump protest. The Jan 20 Women's March on Washington (WMW) is also slated in large cities all over the country. I know several women planning to participate. Sure am glad to find out that several people, women even, have commitment enough to protest ... ... two months from now when it becomes convenient enough for their otherwise busy schedules. Sudge commitment! And how do you know none of us have done anything else so far to show our protest? Fact is, you fucking don't. You don't have a clue what anyone here has done or hasn't done so far. How do you know we haven't taken other actions to show how we feel? You don't. How do you know we haven't donated money to causes that Trump will kill off? You don't. Fact is, you don't know shit about what any woman here has or hasn't done or what their schedules look like. And don't worry, we aren't marching for you. we're marching for OURSELVES.
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Post by verrip1 on Nov 23, 2016 21:55:27 GMT -5
Jungle drums say natives are restless!!! And touchy.
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Post by steff on Nov 23, 2016 21:57:41 GMT -5
And I also use my money to protest. If a local business supported Trump, I don't shop there. National companies supported him? I don't buy their products. Just like my A&M and Nascar post. They only want my money anyway, but guess what, they both just lost a long term customer. $100s spent on stuff that they won't get anymore. And I won't be the only one to show my protest thru my spending habits. Mine may just be a drop in a bucket, but I won't be the only drop in that rapidly filling bucket.
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Post by steff on Nov 23, 2016 21:58:10 GMT -5
Jungle drums say natives are restless!!! And touchy. Again, yet another request from me for that fuck you smiley face. and I got way more important things to get done tonight instead of listening to fucking bullshit and insults. I'm going to go work on Thanksgiving and be thankful that we're a Liberal family and I won't have to deal with any Trumpfucktards at my table tomorrow.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 23, 2016 22:35:42 GMT -5
Sure am glad to find out that several people, women even, have commitment enough to protest ... ... two months from now when it becomes convenient enough for their otherwise busy schedules. Sudge commitment! Aren't you one of the folks who think it's stupid to protest now? I think it's stupid to protest now because protests won't stop Trump from being sworn into office. No, I certainly am not one of those people. You are entitled to your opinion. And I'm entitled to mine. For sis and I, it is about calling attention to, and protesting the appointment of a white nationalist into a position of power. This appointment doesn't require Congressional approval, so the only avenue is to pressure Congress to speak out and to protest. My own representative already has signed a joint statement condemning the appointment. This is about speaking out against the normalization of racism, white supremacy and facism.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 23, 2016 22:37:19 GMT -5
Jungle drums say natives are restless!!! And touchy. Yawn.... Is that the best you can do? I've been baited by the best....
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 24, 2016 0:04:29 GMT -5
Aren't you one of the folks who think it's stupid to protest now? I think it's stupid to protest now because protests won't stop Trump from being sworn into office. No, I certainly am not one of those people. You are entitled to your opinion. And I'm entitled to mine. For sis and I, it is about calling attention to, and protesting the appointment of a white nationalist into a position of power. This appointment doesn't require Congressional approval, so the only avenue is to pressure Congress to speak out and to protest. My own representative already has signed a joint statement condemning the appointment. This is about speaking out against the normalization of racism, white supremacy and facism. GG-I was addressing verip1 and not you.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 24, 2016 0:05:50 GMT -5
No, I certainly am not one of those people. You are entitled to your opinion. And I'm entitled to mine. For sis and I, it is about calling attention to, and protesting the appointment of a white nationalist into a position of power. This appointment doesn't require Congressional approval, so the only avenue is to pressure Congress to speak out and to protest. My own representative already has signed a joint statement condemning the appointment. This is about speaking out against the normalization of racism, white supremacy and facism. GG-I was addressing verip1 and not you. Ok, got it Tenn. Thanks for tne clarification....
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Post by verrip1 on Nov 24, 2016 1:25:40 GMT -5
No, I certainly am not one of those people. You are entitled to your opinion. And I'm entitled to mine. For sis and I, it is about calling attention to, and protesting the appointment of a white nationalist into a position of power. This appointment doesn't require Congressional approval, so the only avenue is to pressure Congress to speak out and to protest. My own representative already has signed a joint statement condemning the appointment. This is about speaking out against the normalization of racism, white supremacy and facism. GG-I was addressing verip1 and not you. I see lefties can be so reactionary as to eat their own on a simple misunderstanding. Engorge on, dudes. It's feasting time!
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Post by steff on Nov 24, 2016 1:34:48 GMT -5
www.amazon.com/dp/B01N67D8HO/ref=tsm_1_fb_lkthe comments & reviews Will this ornament keep all of it's pre-holiday promises? Answer: It's already backing off jailing my Elf on a Shelf. By Jake on November 24, 2016 Only the promise to imprison all blue ornaments. The tree will be protected at all times by a gingerbread wall. The Lollipop Guild will pay for that wall. The wall will be decorated with white icing ONLY. By TallOrangeAngry on November 24, 2016 Yes. It is already groping women as we speak By Amazon Customer on November 24, 2016 1.0 out of 5 starsThis isn't what we ordered. WTH? By Tacitus Lector on November 23, 2016 My office puts up a tree every year and we pool resources to get a really nice ornament, usually on the pricey side. For example, 8 years ago we got a really nice, hand crafted ornament from Hawaii. We liked it so much, we decided to get another one just like it 4 years later. Well, this year we all got together and chose a sedate, classy ornament from a shop in New York. My New York friends swore by their work and so we voted and chose it. But then this red and gold POS showed up in the mail and we can't figure out why! We went through the vote hat again and we definitely voted for the New York piece with overwhelming numbers. I'm a bit worried that our manager, who thinks he's special and soooo sELECTIVE, might have gone over our heads and ordered this one instead. It turns out we can't get a refund and now we're stuck with the ugly thing. We put it on the side of the tree facing the wall, but it must be bewitched or something because it keeps reappearing at the top of the tree every morning! We found our angel topper in the corner crying. We don't know what happened and she says she's afraid to tell us =/ " My brother and father can hang it up just fine, but when my mother and I try By BSPhD on November 23, 2016 Every time I try to hang it on the branch, it yells "WRONG!" No matter which branch I try, it's "WRONG!" My brother and father can hang it up just fine, but when my mother and I try, it's just "WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!" Also, in the middle of the night, I'll hear it loudly yell "SHE'S A FOUR." When I go into the living room to investigate, our angel tree-topper will be on the floor and a naked Barbie will be at the top of the tree. OMG I needed a good laugh. Go read the others.
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Post by verrip1 on Nov 24, 2016 1:44:01 GMT -5
Jungle drums say natives are restless!!! And touchy. Again, yet another request from me for that fuck you smiley face. and I got way more important things to get done tonight instead of listening to fucking bullshit and insults. I'm going to go work on Thanksgiving and be thankful that we're a Liberal family and I won't have to deal with any Trumpfucktards at my table tomorrow. Don't worry. We all knew what your reaction would be. Enjoy the rush!!!! Then come to the realization that Hillary lost. Boo fucking hoo.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 25, 2016 23:37:08 GMT -5
My mom, sis in law & I are talking about doing the Women's March in Atlanta. Two friends have already said they will be at the one in Seattle. Several others are thinking about it. None have ever orotested before (all middle aged or older) My sister and I have already booked flights to DC (paid for by ourselves). Staying at the home of her niece who has decided to join us. Sis has two neighbors who are going to the one in Denver... GG: Everything you need to know about the post-inauguration Women’s March on Washington
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 26, 2016 0:01:54 GMT -5
Thanks Tenn. I already have that - and more. When I asked Sis if her niece understood why we were coming, she said ' "Yep, and she's joining us"..... More of my friends and neighbors have indicatec they will be demstrating in Seattle. None (myself included) have ever participated in a political protest before
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 26, 2016 0:04:04 GMT -5
Again, yet another request from me for that fuck you smiley face. and I got way more important things to get done tonight instead of listening to fucking bullshit and insults. I'm going to go work on Thanksgiving and be thankful that we're a Liberal family and I won't have to deal with any Trumpfucktards at my table tomorrow. Don't worry. We all knew what your reaction would be. Enjoy the rush!!!! Then come to the realization that Hillary lost. Boo fucking hoo. It must be eating you that Hillary won tne popular vote by 2 million. Even with the help of the Russians, Wikileaks and partisans in tne FBI your guy could not win the popular vote.. ROFL!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 1:47:54 GMT -5
Not that I wanted EITHER of them to win, but... "won the popular vote" is totally and wholly irrelevant.
If "popular vote" mattered; California, Texas, Florida, and New York State COULD decide for the whole country (if enough voters voted in those three states and other states had low enough turnout).
Is that what you want for the country?
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 26, 2016 7:24:36 GMT -5
How is this counting the votes still going on? What a system.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 7:50:52 GMT -5
Not that I wanted EITHER of them to win, but... "won the popular vote" is totally and wholly irrelevant. If "popular vote" mattered; California, Texas, Florida, and New York State COULD decide for the whole country (if enough voters voted in those three states and other states had low enough turnout). Is that what you want for the country? The areas that voted for Clinton control 65% of the economic output in this country. You want them to continually have their representation stolen? I was brought up under Rand, the only irony in a shrug actually happening is that it wouldn't come from the 'conservatives'... there needs to be some fix.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 26, 2016 9:55:03 GMT -5
How is this counting the votes still going on? What a system. One group are those where there was some issue with the person being eligible to vote so states are carefully considering their right to vote instead of quickly accepting or rejecting their ballot. Another are votes of military personnel stationed overseas who mailed their ballots on election day. What a system.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 26, 2016 10:03:50 GMT -5
Bizarre. It's not like no one knew the military voted. I remember there being issues the last election with the military votes.
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Post by buystoys on Nov 26, 2016 10:35:54 GMT -5
Not that I wanted EITHER of them to win, but... "won the popular vote" is totally and wholly irrelevant. If "popular vote" mattered; California, Texas, Florida, and New York State COULD decide for the whole country (if enough voters voted in those three states and other states had low enough turnout). Is that what you want for the country? The areas that voted for Clinton control 65% of the economic output in this country. You want them to continually have their representation stolen? I was brought up under Rand, the only irony in a shrug actually happening is that it wouldn't come from the 'conservatives'... there needs to be some fix. Do you have a link for this? I just looked at these two sites and came up with 50%. Presidential resultsGDP by state Thanks!
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Post by tallguy on Nov 26, 2016 14:19:41 GMT -5
From the fivethirtyeight link: That led me back to something else I had seen once. As of the end of 2014, Wal-Mart was the largest employer (excluding government and military) in 20 different states. In looking through that data, eighteen of those states voted for Trump in this election. Only two, Illinois and Virginia, voted for Clinton. Those two can probably be explained by the number of high-paying industries and jobs in those states, but look at the other eighteen: AL, AZ, AR, FL, GA, KY, LA, MS, MO, MT, NC, OH, OK, SC, TN, TX, WV, WY. It is almost a Who's Who list of the poorest states, with only a couple of exceptions. Again: Of thirty states won by Trump, eighteen of them have Wal-Mart as their largest employer. Of twenty states won by Clinton, only two have Wal-Mart as their largest employer. That tells me a couple of things. One is that better-educated, more optimistic, and upwardly-mobile workers are not going for Trump to any great degree. So yes, I agree with the thesis.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 26, 2016 14:24:31 GMT -5
Well, that makes sense. Although we seem to think everyone has a college degree that's not the case.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 22:47:35 GMT -5
Not that I wanted EITHER of them to win, but... "won the popular vote" is totally and wholly irrelevant. If "popular vote" mattered; California, Texas, Florida, and New York State COULD decide for the whole country (if enough voters voted in those three states and other states had low enough turnout). Is that what you want for the country? The areas that voted for Clinton control 65% of the economic output in this country. You want them to continually have their representation stolen? I was brought up under Rand, the only irony in a shrug actually happening is that it wouldn't come from the 'conservatives'... there needs to be some fix. Stolen? No. But it shouldn't grossly steal the representation from the whole rest of the country either. That's why instead of scrapping the Electoral College, it should be revamped, as I suggested somewhere else: - Keep how the number of "Electors" is calculated the same (1 "Elector" for every Senator and Representative).
- Convert the "Electors" to simple variables in a formula (no more human electors, removes the possibility of "faithless electors")
- Grant "Electors" to states as a percentage of total "country-wide" votes, not to exceed 10% of the total. Yes, it would take away 0.2% of California's "Electors", BUT the "winning side" would have already lost their current 10.2% TOTAL with provision #4 anyway, because I guarantee that the state is NOT "100% Democrat".
- Remove the "winner take all" provision from ALL states that have it. State "Electors" to be proportionally divided among the top THREE candidates.
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