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Post by zibazinski on Jul 20, 2016 8:44:52 GMT -5
Well, it must just be me then. Probably with all the rules about no public smoking, it's easier not to see any. I can sure smell them though. There was someone on the plane and you could smell them from a ways away. I hope the person next to them was a smoker too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 8:59:43 GMT -5
I know quite a few very intelligent people that either smoke or were past smokers and quit. They say it's as a addictive as heroin, so even if you know it's a dumb thing to do, quitting isn't so easy.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 20, 2016 9:09:25 GMT -5
I smoke in the house because it is just me.Hope you are saving funds for a major renovation when you decide to sell. I agree, your house, your rules but please think of the future also. I will probably die here. House can be sold as is. I'm dead so that won't bother me. Will states what what ever is left is split by the siblings..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 9:13:57 GMT -5
My first husband smoked but he was meticulously clean. (As in: don't walk through the living room/dining room because you'll disturb the fresh vacuum tracks on the rug.) Now I can't even remember where he smoked. It sure wasn't in his car. (We couldn't eat in the car, either.) Maybe he went outside or cleaned up so carefully I never noticed the smell. He undoubtedly smoked at work when he was employed (well before most buildings went smoke-free). I HATED it when I was pregnant and would buy a pack of cigarettes for him on my regular errands. I was sure everyone thought I was going to light one up in the car on the way home. Current DH quit shortly after we met- not because of me but because the price of a pack just got so darn high he couldn't stand paying for them anymore. He'd smoked for over 30 years. He claims that he never really quit; he just kept postponing when he'd smoke his next one. He kept a pack in the freezer for years and eventually threw it out. If I outlive DH I'll be open to a new partner but I think smoking would be a dealbreaker.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 20, 2016 9:14:14 GMT -5
I know quite a few very intelligent people that either smoke or were past smokers and quit. They say it's as a addictive as heroin, so even if you know it's a dumb thing to do, quitting isn't so easy. Coffee/caffeine is addictive. Coffee makes your breath stink and your teeth yellow or brownish, and yet plenty of people happily drink it.
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Post by Opti on Jul 20, 2016 9:23:19 GMT -5
I know quite a few very intelligent people that either smoke or were past smokers and quit. They say it's as a addictive as heroin, so even if you know it's a dumb thing to do, quitting isn't so easy. Coffee/caffeine is addictive. Coffee makes your breath stink and your teeth yellow or brownish, and yet plenty of people happily drink it. I think it depends on how much you drink. I rarely drink more than one cup a day on work days. I could stop pretty easily. On the other pole, a visitor told me yesterday how he typically drinks 8 monster cups a day of coffee. He's not thin either.
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Post by midjd on Jul 20, 2016 9:24:26 GMT -5
DH started smoking at 16. Both his parents (along with pretty much all the adults in his family) were smokers, and he used to be able to pick up cigarettes at the corner store as long as he had a note from his mom... He grew up in the farming part of the county and most of the boys from that elementary school were chewing tobacco by third or fourth grade. This was only 15-20 years ago. After trying the patch, the gum, e-cigs, and a few other methods, he finally quit with the help of Chantix in early 2013. He had one relapse for about a month last year, but went back on Chantix and hasn't had any problems since then. The whole process has been eye-opening... it is very true that no amount of guilt trips or outside pressure is going to flip that switch that makes someone want to quit. I'm not sure if it was the Chantix that did the trick so much as him actually wanting to quit vs. going through the motions. I could have just about killed him when he started up again after almost 2 years, though. He said he really thought he could just smoke one or two every now and then and not turn it into a daily habit. Really?!? (He is smarter than that now!)
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 20, 2016 9:26:23 GMT -5
I assume it's because their parents smoked. That's what I've seen be a bit of a ripple effect. My parents never smoked and both my sister and I did. I'm sure there's lots of exceptions to my comment, but that's what I've seen around me. I'm such a "don't tell me what to do" person, I didn't like the idea of being slave to any habit whatever it was. Saved me lots of money lol Except now, chapstick is in charge of my life.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 9:34:48 GMT -5
DH started smoking at 16. Both his parents (along with pretty much all the adults in his family) were smokers, and he used to be able to pick up cigarettes at the corner store as long as he had a note from his mom... He grew up in the farming part of the county and most of the boys from that elementary school were chewing tobacco by third or fourth grade. This was only 15-20 years ago. After trying the patch, the gum, e-cigs, and a few other methods, he finally quit with the help of Chantix in early 2013. He had one relapse for about a month last year, but went back on Chantix and hasn't had any problems since then. The whole process has been eye-opening... it is very true that no amount of guilt trips or outside pressure is going to flip that switch that makes someone want to quit. I'm not sure if it was the Chantix that did the trick so much as him actually wanting to quit vs. going through the motions. I could have just about killed him when he started up again after almost 2 years, though. He said he really thought he could just smoke one or two every now and then and not turn it into a daily habit. Really?!? (He is smarter than that now!) My ex grew up with parents that both smoked like chimneys and would actually bring cigarettes home for the kids. I was watching an old videotape of one of their camping trips and here were these teen kids all smoking around mom and dad. It was such a striking difference to how I was raised. He had quit for nearly 4 years then decided to have one with the guys at break. WTH? He said it was like tingly lightning bolts went through him and then all the cravings were back almost instantly. He kept it to just smoking at work for a year or so, then quit again for at least a year, then started again when we separated...to spite me...then quit again. I hope he finally is done for good. Not so much that I care about his health, but our son absolutely idolizes him. If he has the same addictive tendencies it could be bad. He ran a marathon last year and is training for another this Fall, so I think he's sticking with the health kick for now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 9:35:32 GMT -5
My parents never smoked and both my sister and I did. I'm sure there's lots of exceptions to my comment, but that's what I've seen around me. I'm such a "don't tell me what to do" person, I didn't like the idea of being slave to any habit whatever it was. Saved me lots of money lol Except now, chapstick is in charge of my life. Diet Pepsi owns my ass.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 20, 2016 9:49:54 GMT -5
... I get the sense that you have never practiced catch and release in dating, which involves loving your single life so much you couldn't compromise it for anyone who didn't add to it exponentially. ... I like the catch and release. For course the trick is realizing you are also a fish to be caught by others as well. It can hurt when released because the other won't compromise when you don't add exponentially to their life.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 20, 2016 9:53:03 GMT -5
I know quite a few very intelligent people that either smoke or were past smokers and quit. They say it's as a addictive as heroin, so even if you know it's a dumb thing to do, quitting isn't so easy. Coffee/caffeine is addictive. Coffee makes your breath stink and your teeth yellow or brownish, and yet plenty of people happily drink it. I'm a huge coffee drinker and an ex-smoker. The difference between the two is breath mints and crest professional white strips can hide the effects of coffee (ask me how I know ) but there is no hiding the smokey smell.
I do think that the brand of cigarettes makes a difference. I have caught a whiff of people that smell AWFUL from smoke and then others that you can't really tell until you are really up close. But if they smoke in their car/house they will smell.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 20, 2016 11:26:04 GMT -5
Educated people can be addicts also. Now I must stay away from this thread it's making me crave a smoke.
Not in my limited experience. I was ashamed when before I just accepted it. Even now I know absolutely no one that smokes. I know a lot of educated people that USED to smoke. Over the years, they have quit. You can add physician, a couple dentists, several scientists, a veterinarian, a couple of CPAs and a few teachers. At this point, most have quit. Most are in my generation (or younger), growing up learning that smoking was bad for you, so that excuse doesn't apply.
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 20, 2016 13:26:51 GMT -5
"I smoke"
Whoa!!!! *kittensaver's imagined world-view of Tennesseer blows to smithereens*
You subject your beloved fur babies to second-hand smoke?
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Post by gs11rmb on Jul 20, 2016 13:28:31 GMT -5
Not in my limited experience. I was ashamed when before I just accepted it. Even now I know absolutely no one that smokes. I know a lot of educated people that USED to smoke. Over the years, they have quit. You can add physician, a couple dentists, several scientists, a veterinarian, a couple of CPAs and a few teachers. At this point, most have quit. Most are in my generation (or younger), growing up learning that smoking was bad for you, so that excuse doesn't apply. I'm 42. I can't think of one person in either my social or professional circles who smokes. On Sunday we got back from 3 days at Fort Walton Beach in Florida and I was shocked by how many people smoked. The hotel allowed smoking in the rooms and at the pools. There were lots of sloppy drunks with cigarettes hanging out of their mouths; it was pretty gross.
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 20, 2016 13:31:46 GMT -5
I'm 42. I can't think of one person in either my social or professional circles who smokes. On Sunday we got back from 3 days at Fort Walton Beach in Florida and I was shocked by how many people smoked. The hotel allowed smoking in the rooms and at the pools. There were lots of sloppy drunks with cigarettes hanging out of their mouths; it was pretty gross.
This is why I refuse to "vacation" in Vegas [my idea of a vacation in Hell]. I know on an intellectual level that the rules are different there, but whenever I go the constant smoke *everywhere* just grosses me out. And makes my lungs hurt
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 20, 2016 14:43:37 GMT -5
"I smoke"
Whoa!!!! *kittensaver's imagined world-view of Tennesseer blows to smithereens*
You subject your beloved fur babies to second-hand smoke?
Yup. And the last indoor cat to die was almost 20 years old. I supposed he could have lived to 50 if I didn't smoke.
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Post by Apple on Jul 20, 2016 17:03:09 GMT -5
I had to think about it a little bit, but even the culture around the blue collar workers has changed quite a bit.
When I first started, several people smoked. By the time I left my last job, I can only think of one smoker who was left (he had quit a few times, but smoked more often than not, the rest had either retired or quit). At my current job, I only know of one smoker so far, and now that he has left his old crew and joined mine, he's cut way down (even though on my crew he could pretty much step out and smoke nearly any time he wanted, the reduced stress and bs has him craving a cigarette much less often).
I would prefer my next SO to be a non-smoker, but it's not a deal breaker for me, as long as they don't smoke in the house. Yes, I'd much rather spend/save the money elsewhere, but it's not on my "you can't bring me happiness if" list.
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