This is just rude!

[alabamagal]

I saw this posted a few places, and this girl is getting attention, but this is just plain rude!

It was pomp and no consequence for a Pennsylvania high school student who took her her diploma and just kept on walking.



Each of the graduates of Parkland High School in Allentown came on stage when their names were called and returned to their assigned seats... except for Tayler Michelle Gray.



In a video that has gone viral this week, Gray proudly accepts her diploma and walks off the stage just like all the other students, poses for the official photo and then walked past her seat and out the door.



“I wanted to go spend the time with my family, than just sit there. I was way too excited, so I had to do what I had to do and keep going,” she told Inside Edition.

www.yahoo.com/news/cap-gone-teen-causes-social-185600455.html



Plus if they are doing it alphabetically, all those poor people whose names begin with Z have been last in everything their entire life!  And she seems to be proud that she made it to Applebees before the rest of the crowd.

I was shocked at my son's fiance's graduation a couple years ago.  It was the May graduation at a large 20,000 student state university held in the football stadium.  I had to get leave my house at 4am and drive 4 hours (there were NO hotel rooms in the small college town even though I tried to book 3 months in advance) to get there, and I was certainly going to stay until the end.  There were graduates arriving late and leaving early.  The other ones I have attended have been in the basketball stadium and I did not see this so much.

[thyme4change]

Graduation ceremonies are so dull. My parents were secretly thrilled that they couldn't get tickets to my niece's graduation. They flew across the country, and hung out, and when my sister, niece, BIL etc got home from the ceremony they all went to dinner and ate cake and stuff.

[MJ2.0]

While I agree it's super rude, graduation ceremonies are kinda long. Plus what can you do to this girl? She already graduated and she didn't break ny laws.

[ArchietheDragon]

going viral has jumped the shark. A highschool girl walking has capture the attention of the American people? can we just stop it already?







as an aside, on a scale of one to ten how old and grumpy do I sound?

[thyme4change]

Jun 17, 2016 15:53:17 GMT -5 @sroo4 said:

My HS had insurance against these kind of shenanigans.  You didn't get your diploma at graduation,  it was mailed 2 weeks later.   They were very upfront about it and told us that any and all infractions during graduation would face consequences up to and including in school suspension post graduation.   

I'm sure it kept more than one kid from being an ass. 

How does a post school detention work? Even if it goes on your "permanent record" you have probably already been accepted to college, and they won't give a shit if the principal calls them and tells them they wore shorts under their grad robe even though it was strictly forbidden.

Also, leaving quietly doesn't seem quite as rude as what some do. Yelling, streaking, spraying shaving cream - that is rude. Walking out the side door? Who knows maybe she had to poop but would rather the internet thinks she is selfish than talk about the discomfort of IBS.

[MJ2.0]

Jun 17, 2016 16:08:02 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

going viral has jumped the shark. A highschool girl walking has capture the attention of the American people? can we just stop it already?







as an aside, on a scale of one to ten how old and grumpy do I sound?

HEY MISTER WILSOOOOOOOOOON!!!!

[alabamagal]

If she didn't want to stay she should have skipped it.  I don't think anyone gives out the actual diplomas at graduation.  

I am old and grumpy too.

[alabamagal]

Jun 17, 2016 16:17:31 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Jun 17, 2016 15:53:17 GMT -5 @sroo4 said:

My HS had insurance against these kind of shenanigans.  You didn't get your diploma at graduation,  it was mailed 2 weeks later.   They were very upfront about it and told us that any and all infractions during graduation would face consequences up to and including in school suspension post graduation.   

I'm sure it kept more than one kid from being an ass. 

How does a post school detention work? Even if it goes on your "permanent record" you have probably already been accepted to college, and they won't give a shit if the principal calls them and tells them they wore shorts under their grad robe even though it was strictly forbidden.

Also, leaving quietly doesn't seem quite as rude as what some do. Yelling, streaking, spraying shaving cream - that is rude. Walking out the side door? Who knows maybe she had to poop but would rather the internet thinks she is selfish than talk about the discomfort of IBS.

She was heading to Applebees to beat the post-graduation rush.

[MJ2.0]

I don't understand why she or anyone would rush to go to Applebee's.

[milee]

What is rude and selfish is being inconsiderate of people's time and natural desire not to be tortured with interminable boredom - like having a 3 or 4 hour ceremony that people feel pressured to sit through.  

I didn't see the video, but if all she did was keep walking and not sit down, there's nothing rude about that.  If people want others to sit through an entire ceremony, they should create a ceremony that's interesting and mercifully brief. 

[Kolt!]

and what about those with the letter Z as their last name? 

they have to sit through the enter A-Z and be considerate. i personally think if one person has to they all should. nobody should have to be punished simply because their last name is z. 

why should the letter a get to leave within 30 minutes and the letter z have to wait 4 hours? 

[ners]

I was very impressed with my nephews high school graduation.  There were around 650 graduates.  They kept the speeches short.  It took about 45 minutes to read thru the names.  If the guest would have kept quiet like they had been asked it would have gone a little quicker.  Entire event about an hour and half. Started 

I think as someone's who name started with Z in high school this was rude.  If you do not want to sit thru the ceremony just do not attend.

[milee]

Again, why punish anybody?  Why are we OK with ceremonies that have gotten so out of control? Are we so desperate to have our child's name called out in a public venue that we'll patiently sit through anything? Seriously?

I can't be the only person who thinks this is not just unpleasant, it's insane.  We're not talking about receiving the Nobel Prize here (although I'm betting that the Nobel ceremony isn't 3+ hours).  Graduating from high school - and for most of us, college - is something that is expected and normal.  It's nice and fun to celebrate, but what person thinks celebration = 3+ hour ceremony? 

Stop the madness.  Instead of getting upset at people not wanting to sit through this BS, let's redesign the ceremonies so they're survivable.  Time to pitch the current model and try something new.

[Kolt!]

I mean I can agree with things needing to be revamped but I still think what she did was rude as the rest of her classmates had to sit through the ceremony. They didn't get up before her and leave. 

I was an R and I'd been very irritated if someone with a G left in the middle of it. I didn't want to be there just as much as them. But I was considerate of everyone before R and considerate of everyone after R. As this person should have been as well. 

If she didn't want to walk that's one thing. Don't go. But if you're there don't be inconsiderate of the rest. 

She wanted her two minutes of standing on the stage and people to cheer her on but she wasn't willing to be considerate of the other's that got on that stage that day too. 

[justme]

Jun 17, 2016 16:34:35 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

I don't understand why she or anyone would rush to go to Applebee's.

Me either.

Though I went there with my parents after my hs graduation for a piná colada (night graduation, ate before) and those dummies sat two in front of me saying happy hour buy one get one.

I mean I wasn't still wearing my graduation robe but not sure why they thought the person there with her parents was old enough to drink liquor.

They were delicious!

[thyme4change]

I don't recall going to any graduation that was alphabetical. In my high school we reporting to our home room, and then filed in by class, but we weren't given an order within that class. I was very near last and neither my first name nor last name is anywhere near z. My husband was dead last at his college graduation, which was cool because EVERYONE cheered. Maybe his law school was alphabetical, I don't remember, that day was an insane burden. I've been to 3 college graduations in the past 4 years - all random.

[Tiny]

Meh. I've 'graduated' college lots of times 1984 (community college), 1991 (community college), 1995 (really big University) and yeah I did 'walk across the stage' for all of the ceremonies and I did stay till the end (since getting the 'diploma' meant it was nearly the end - another 20 to 30 minutes of my time)... and at each of them (small under 100 students) and big (several thousand) some newly minted graduates got their "diploma" and immediately left. Who cares if the person in the video left early. By the time they are handing out 'diplomas' all the speakers have spoken, and the bands have played, and it's all pretty much over. Big deal.

I've attended a lot of community college graduations where there were always a few people who left after getting their 'diploma' - I would suspect the only way the missing handful of grads would be noticeable would be if the class size is small - say 50 or few grads... when someone walks out it might actually be noticed. When a few grads out of hundreds or thousands leaves early - it's barely noticed.

I suspect that for the most part the majority of grads and their guests stay til the end. When the majority of grads/guest form a stream to the exit BEFORE the end of the ceremony - then it would be a 'shame' and a 'disgrace'.

[Kolt!]

Jun 17, 2016 17:57:34 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I don't recall going to any graduation that was alphabetical. In my high school we reporting to our home room, and then filed in by class, but we weren't given an order within that class. I was very near last and neither my first name nor last name is anywhere near z. My husband was dead last at his college graduation, which was cool because EVERYONE cheered. Maybe his law school was alphabetical, I don't remember, that day was an insane burden. I've been to 3 college graduations in the past 4 years - all random.

Interesting. I've never had a graduation that wasn't A-Z nor been to one that wasn't A-Z and I've been to quite a lot.

Either way same concept. The last person shouldn't have to sit through it all and have to be considerate. Everyone should have to be just as considerate of their classmates from the first to the last one. 

[Tiny]

The graduations I've been involved in were ordered by the level/type of degree (or 'school' within the university) and then people more or less alphabetical within each of those groups.

[milee]

I still don't understand why it would matter one iota if some random person sat there while your name or your child's name was called.   

If a person knew you and felt it was worth sitting through the ceremony, they'd stay.  But why would you care if someone who you may or may not know and may or may not care about stays or goes?  If it's just about random bodies packing the seats to watch you in all your glory, we should just pay homeless people to fill the seats and clap uproariously for everybody, then you'd feel validated and nobody has to suffer without just compensation.

I detect a little bit of - I suffered so you should, too - in the posts where people want to make sure that everybody has to sit through this...

[Kolt!]

I just personally don't think it's right that one person has to stay until the end and another can just go get their diploma then leave whereas other's are expected to stay an hour or so more. I find it very inconsiderate. The rest of those people sat and watched you get your diploma but you can't have the same consideration for everyone else. 

If they don't want to sit through it then they shouldn't go. 

[Kolt!]

Jun 17, 2016 18:02:34 GMT -5 milee said:

I still don't understand why it would matter one iota if some random person sat there while your name or your child's name was called.   

If a person knew you and felt it was worth sitting through the ceremony, they'd stay.  But why would you care if someone who you may or may not know and may or may not care about stays or goes?  If it's just about random bodies packing the seats to watch you in all your glory, we should just pay homeless people to fill the seats and clap uproariously for everybody, then you'd feel validated and nobody has to suffer without just compensation.

I detect a little bit of - I suffered so you should, too - in the posts where people want to make sure that everybody has to sit through this...

Exactly. If one person has to suffer they all should. Sorry not sorry. lmao. 

A person shouldn't get to leave just because they were fortunate enough to get lucky enough to be called sooner and I just also find it to be disrespectful to leave. Everyone was there watching you get your diploma the least a person can do is be respectful to the other's that graduated that day. 

[Tiny]

Jun 17, 2016 18:02:34 GMT -5 milee said:

I still don't understand why it would matter one iota if some random person sat there while your name or your child's name was called.   

If a person knew you and felt it was worth sitting through the ceremony, they'd stay.  But why would you care if someone who you may or may not know and may or may not care about stays or goes?  If it's just about random bodies packing the seats to watch you in all your glory, we should just pay homeless people to fill the seats and clap uproariously for everybody, then you'd feel validated and nobody has to suffer without just compensation.

I detect a little bit of - I suffered so you should, too - in the posts where people want to make sure that everybody has to sit through this...

I agree.   Like I said I've graduated lots of times and for me - the whole ritual of getting the diploma had next to nothing to do with rest of the grads (and their guests)... I had NO idea who they were.   What did matter was if I had friends graduating (so I could cheer for them)  my guests in the audience.   I could have been the last person to walk the stage with a handful of passed out drunk grads in the chairs and it would still have been OK for me - my friends/family were there cheering.     And for what it's worth most graduations request NO cheering for individual students - especially when there's 2K of them...   

By the time you get to the diplomas - it's mostly over.  Or maybe they have changed the ceremony?  Are there more speakers or band playing the school fight song (or maybe a nice interlude of orchestral music) after the diplomas are handed out?  Isn't there just the closing ceremony (Hey! Thanks for coming! Have a safe trip home!  and then the grads march out to some sort of music?

[Kolt!]

You get a little bitter when your school has always done A-Z and you're forever called last in every thing from the moment you start school until the ending. 

That included in class when papers would be handed back and people are free to leave class or leave the school early because there name starts with A and then you sit around waiting until the ending every time. 

A person with the letter Z shouldn't have to sit through a 4 hour ceremony just as much as the person with the letter A. 

[Sharon]

If you aren't willing to sit through the entire ceremony then don't go.  It is is rude and distracting to everyone to have people coming and going.  I almost didn't get to see my DD walk across the stage at high school graduation because the people in the row in front of us were standing up moving around to let someone out who wanted to leave.  I think it was the same lady who stood up yelled and raised her shirt up, to flash her kid, when they walked across the stage.

[Tiny]

Jun 17, 2016 18:12:02 GMT -5 Kolt! said:

You get a little bitter when your school has always done A-Z and you're forever called last in every thing from the moment you start school until the ending. 

That included in class when papers would be handed back and people are free to leave class or leave the school early because there name starts with A and then you sit around waiting until the ending every time. 

A person with the letter Z shouldn't have to sit through a 4 hour ceremony just as much as the person with the letter A. 

OK, you have a point there. I hated grade school. Same 28 kids for 8 years. I knew who I was going to sit next to each and every year. The nuns didn't vary from the seating plan... It was pretty awful.    Thankfully I went to a bigger high school, community college and Big University.   They tend to mix things up with the alphabet OR atleast  alphabetize within groups so you might not always be first or last.

[Kolt!]

Jun 17, 2016 18:15:05 GMT -5 Sharon said:

If you aren't willing to sit through the entire ceremony then don't go.  It is is rude and distracting to everyone to have people coming and going.  I almost didn't get to see my DD walk across the stage at high school graduation because the people in the row in front of us were standing up moving around to let someone out who wanted to leave.  I think it was the same lady who stood up yelled and raised her shirt up, to flash her kid, when they walked across the stage.

That's another thing you let one person leave and another and it does become distracting. If you say that people can leave after walking you get families walking out and other kids walking out. 

Then you struggle to hear or see the stage as well. 

[alabamagal]

Well if everyone started leaving in the middle and the guests started leaving in the middle, there would be a bunch of commotion. And then those sitting might actually miss the moment that their family member walked across the stage.

No one is ever required to go to the ceremony. If you don't want to sit through it, don't go.

[Kolt!]

Jun 17, 2016 18:15:55 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Jun 17, 2016 18:12:02 GMT -5 Kolt! said:

You get a little bitter when your school has always done A-Z and you're forever called last in every thing from the moment you start school until the ending. 

That included in class when papers would be handed back and people are free to leave class or leave the school early because there name starts with A and then you sit around waiting until the ending every time. 

A person with the letter Z shouldn't have to sit through a 4 hour ceremony just as much as the person with the letter A. 

OK, you have a point there. I hated grade school. Same 28 kids for 8 years. I knew who I was going to sit next to each and every year. The nuns didn't vary from the seating plan... It was pretty awful.    Thankfully I went to a bigger high school, community college and Big University.   They tend to mix things up with the alphabet OR atleast  alphabetize within groups so you might not always be first or last.

My high school class had 793 kids graduate and they still did everything by A-Z. All of my teachers in the classrooms did the same thing as well. 

My community college graduation has done everything A-Z too. Of course we were separated into graduation times based on what degrees we got but it went A-Z still. 

My university degree next year is going to be A-Z again. 

I can't get away from it! 

[MJ2.0]

My hs graduation was class officers, then National Honor society, then alphabetical. College had people alternating between A-L or M and M or N-Z. So first person A, second person M. I thought that was awesome.