Why toxic jobs environment?

[tloonya]

What is this toxic jobs you all are talking about?

I had worked in about 5 different companies. All huge and famous

but I had never had ANY issues with anyone.

I was told at my first company 'we are professionals and our goal is

to keep client satisfied no matter how much effort it takes!'

and I got the point.

I had never stayed late at work but if I had to I would.

I had never got one issue with anyone because I kept work separate

from personal. Always friendly and professional. Never an issue.

You go to work to work. Not to party or anything else. If you make a friend

be friends after work.

What makes people get into such issues at work? I don't get it.

Though my very best friend got in trouble at work. Bitch manager.

However if my friend wasn't sticking her 4D boobs into men's faces...

and dressed more professionally I think bitch manager wouldn't BE a bitch!

[zibazinski]

I worked in a school system. Toxic from the head on down. 

[sarcasticgirl]

my husband was in a position where the sales people were making promises and selling work that his research team couldn't deliver. They had set parameters on what they could sell and the time frames but wouldn't follow it and no one was holding the sales accountable. His workload almost tripled, his team got smaller and he was expected to work 80 plus hours a week on SALARY based on a 40 hour work week and put out a quality product. if any mistake was made they were screamed at and threatened. if they missed an impossible deadline that someone in sales promised, they were reprimanded, not sales. The company is actually losing money and is a sinking ship because of this... THIS IS TOXIC. 


My department is heading towards being Toxic. Recently, I sat in a meeting with my manager and supervisor when my supervisor flat out LIED in front of me, about me. Saying that something was my idea... when it was in fact a direct order from her. I promptly corrected her and said I had the backup in writing to prove that I had a direct instruction from the supervisor to do something, that I wasn't doing it because I just felt like it. My supervisor makes tons of mistakes and blames the workers in my department. She throws us under the bus in a heart beat to make herself look good. The other supervisor is lazy and lets things sit on his desk for days on end and when he is asked about it, he says he delegated it to someone, names their name... and says that he'll get it back from that person and take care of it himself. ALL LIES... lies to cover their own mistakes and blame someone else. This is TOXIC. 

If you worked in a corporate world and never worked overtime, i'd say you were extremely lucky. In the past few years the economy has changed so much, at least here in Chicago... everyone I know works overtime... Hours on a weekend aren't uncommon, neither are late nights in the office. employers are getting more hours of work out of salaried employees instead of hiring additional people. I work a lot of hours... but my overtime is curtailed because I am hourly and get paid OT pay. I have coworkers that are salaried that are expected to work 12 hours a day if needed to get things done. If I work 10 hours, I get asked what I'm working on. If they changed me to salary, they wouldn't care one bit. 

[endofera]

Here are a few things I've experienced over the last 40 years of working:

1.  The Screamer.  A boss who screams at the top of his lungs at someone who made a mistake in an accounting report.  A totally fixable mistake which didn't really warrant being screamed at.  Uncomfortable for everyone within hearing.  This happens a few times and it everyone is walking on eggshells dreading the next time.  Angry boss man stays on while the workers come and go like a revolving door.

2.  The Chaos-loving Boss Lady.  A boss who makes it her business to listen in on employees conversations, read employees emails, make a point of telling employees to stay away from the copier because she is copying something that they can't see because it is confidential, snoops in desk drawers after hours, butts into areas of the business that aren't her responsibility, stirs things up with mean comments about people, revels happily and loudly if she finds a mistake that someone has made, even if it is something as mild as a misfiled bill.

3.  The Weird Partner.  Offers to walk you to the parking garage when you work late.  Which is worse, walking with him or taking your chances on an attack by a stranger.

4.  The egotistical narcissist.  Regularly asks your opinion but gets angry if it isn't the same as his and will make a snide comment if you don't weigh in. So you give your opinion and get shot down, don't give an opinion at all and get shot down, agree with his opinion and ding ding ding - we have a winner.  Smiles all around. 

[tloonya]

There is no reason for any of you to stay in this environment.

As soon as you have gotten screamed at - start looking for another job,

however I can see that for years each of you had been putting up with

this and done nothing.

And if bad boss is treating everyone poorly - why not to get group complain

into HR about it?

[sarcasticgirl]

Mar 13, 2016 11:58:47 GMT -5 tloonya said:

however I can see that for years each of you had been putting up with

this and done nothing.

And if bad boss is treating everyone poorly - why not to get group complain

into HR about it?

That is pretty amazing that you can see that each of us have been putting up with this for years and have done nothing. Quite amazing since I've been in my department with these people for LESS THAN 6 months and i explicitly said these were "RECENT" occurrences.   Oh, and a complaint was filed. FYI. i wonder how you didn't see that?!?!?! 


You're post should have been titled "explain to me a toxic job so I can make wild assumptions based on next to nothing and blame it on you. for some reason, this makes me feel better about myself!"

[tloonya]

Mar 13, 2016 12:08:50 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

Mar 13, 2016 11:58:47 GMT -5 tloonya said:

however I can see that for years each of you had been putting up with

this and done nothing.

And if bad boss is treating everyone poorly - why not to get group complain

into HR about it?

That is pretty amazing that you can see that each of us have been putting up with this for years and have done nothing. Quite amazing since I've been in my department with these people for LESS THAN 6 months and i explicitly said these were "RECENT" occurrences.   Oh, and a complaint was filed. FYI. i wonder how you didn't see that?!?!?! 


You're post should have been titled "explain to me a toxic job so I can make wild assumptions based on next to nothing and blame it on you. for some reason, this makes me feel better about myself!"

You said about your husband. And you. And you are trying to argue. How long your husband dealing with his stuff? It seems for decades from your post. So...

Re-read your post. It was not mentioned "RECENT"

Complained filed wasn't mentioned either.

And you being wonder how you didn't see that?!?!?!...I am also wondering now.

HOW haven't I seen THAT?

[sarcasticgirl]

Mar 13, 2016 12:24:44 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 13, 2016 12:08:50 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

That is pretty amazing that you can see that each of us have been putting up with this for years and have done nothing. Quite amazing since I've been in my department with these people for LESS THAN 6 months and i explicitly said these were "RECENT" occurrences.   Oh, and a complaint was filed. FYI. i wonder how you didn't see that?!?!?! 


You're post should have been titled "explain to me a toxic job so I can make wild assumptions based on next to nothing and blame it on you. for some reason, this makes me feel better about myself!"

You said about your husband. And you. And you are trying to argue. How long your husband dealing with his stuff? It seems for decades from your post. So...

Re-read your post. It was not mentioned "RECENT"

Complained filed wasn't mentioned either.

And you being wonder how you didn't see that?!?!?!...I am also wondering now.

HOW haven't I seen THAT?

The changes to my husbands hours and conditions have happened in the last 3-6 months. You ASSUMED that it has been decades. my husband has only been with this company for 3 years, the company was bought by another company after he'd been there for about a year- a year in a half.  My husband isn't even 40 years old... he isn't even old enough to have worked a professional job for DECADES. 

I can't tailor my posts to what incorrect ASSUMPTIONS you might make based on you lack of knowledge for a situation. You never asked a single person how long they had worked in their position or what actions they had taken. you decided to make it all up on your own.    


I just re- read my post... OMG, look... it says the word RECENTLY, perhaps you should re-read my post!

"My department is heading towards being Toxic. Recently, I sat in a meeting with my manager and supervisor when my supervisor flat out LIED in front of me"

[sarcasticgirl]

Curious, what single word in my post indicated that these situation have been going on for decades? I am really curious as to how any word written could be comprehended in such a manner. 

[tloonya]

Mar 13, 2016 12:41:38 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

Curious, what single word in my post indicated that these situation have been going on for decades? I am really curious as to how any word written could be comprehended in such a manner. 

my husband was in a position where the sales people were making promises and selling work that his research team couldn't deliver. They had set parameters on what they could sell and the time frames but wouldn't follow it and no one was holding the sales accountable. His workload almost tripled, his team got smaller and he was expected to work 80 plus hours a week on SALARY based on a 40 hour work week and put out a quality product. if any mistake was made they were screamed at and threatened. if they missed an impossible deadline that someone in sales promised, they were reprimanded, not sales. The company is actually losing money and is a sinking ship because of this... THIS IS TOXIC.

Everything is written above made me think of years of working.

Even you said 3 years later - still - 3 years of abuse is worth not quitting?

With triple load and stress for same money?

I written my post for people to look at themselves and maybe to realize -

no one deserves to be treated like this at work.

There is a description of 4 toxic bosses in my thread by someone else.

HOW and WHY is 4 bad bosses had happened to endofera?

I think people do attract certain people. It needs to be stopped.

[sarcasticgirl]

You made the assumption that it was years and years of abuse. I cannot help that you like to assume all kinds of things that aren't true.

Again, I said this particular situation with my husband was going on for 3-6 months. Again repeating what I wrote... his company was bought after 1.5 by another company. So for 1.5 he was fine. After 1.5 things started going downhill but only recent got bad.

And he did quit. In fact in another thread you said we were financial morons. Because who quits a job without another one lined up in this economy. - to paraphrase..

So he was a moron for quitting... but you ask why would he stay working for a company that treats people that way.

Make up your mind exactly how you want to pass judgement already

Or try and little introspection of your own.


Eta: spelling correction

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[zibazinski]

If you have bills to pay and dependents to care for you don't just up and quit. Sometimes you have to suck it up and deal as best you can.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I carry our benefits. If I had quit boys town we would have been stuck paying a fortune. We could not qualify for the exchange on DHs income alone. I also would not have been able to collect unemployment, quiting disqualifies you.

So I had to stick it out till I found another job. Took me four months.

My first clue I made a mistake was they isolated me. I was only allowed to talk to other people thru them. 

Second was how they refused to let me handle the mice despite the fact I've been an animal tech for a decade and completed training in less than an hour

Third was how the department treated me. I was a social pariah and found out there was a lot of bad blood between my bosses and others.

 

Fourth was how they conducted their research. I saw quickly that it was going no where and never would. I'd be collecting crap control data for the duration of my stay.  They weren't utilizing me at all.

I found out later thyve screwed other people investigators and conducted shady research.  It would have eventually become a black spot on my record too.

I took the job because I was unemployed and we needed benefits and a second income. I'd been on over 50 interviews by that point. I didn't want to wait for more.

I didn't stop looking though. In a perfect world I would have passed or quit sooner but I live in the real world and these decisions aren't so black and white.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Mar 13, 2016 12:55:31 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 13, 2016 12:41:38 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

Curious, what single word in my post indicated that these situation have been going on for decades? I am really curious as to how any word written could be comprehended in such a manner. 

my husband was in a position where the sales people were making promises and selling work that his research team couldn't deliver. They had set parameters on what they could sell and the time frames but wouldn't follow it and no one was holding the sales accountable. His workload almost tripled, his team got smaller and he was expected to work 80 plus hours a week on SALARY based on a 40 hour work week and put out a quality product. if any mistake was made they were screamed at and threatened. if they missed an impossible deadline that someone in sales promised, they were reprimanded, not sales. The company is actually losing money and is a sinking ship because of this... THIS IS TOXIC.

Everything is written above made me think of years of working.

Even you said 3 years later - still - 3 years of abuse is worth not quitting?

With triple load and stress for same money?

I written my post for people to look at themselves and maybe to realize -

no one deserves to be treated like this at work.

There is a description of 4 toxic bosses in my thread by someone else.

HOW and WHY is 4 bad bosses had happened to endofera?

I think people do attract certain people. It needs to be stopped.

Sometimes, it takes time to get yourself out of a toxic environment and find a safe landing.  It took me about 8 months to see mine, and another 4 to get out of it.

You really do have to take time to figure out the best way to extricate yourself without harming yourself.  It took my boss 3 years to get us out of a toxic environment that was caused by a new chair after 11 years of running one of the most successful programs in the US.  

[sarcasticgirl]

Mar 13, 2016 13:15:33 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

If you have bills to pay and dependents to care for you don't just up and quit. Sometimes you have to suck it up and deal as best you can.

Yup, sometimes you just have to put on your grow up pants and deal. Everyone deals with shitty coworkers and bosses. And often HR doesn't care if your boss is an ass so long as they aren't breaking laws.
Often, Homelessness and starvation are a much bigger stressor than a toxic work environment

I get why my DH quit. He was heaving anxiety attacks and chest pains so he walked.
I certainly am not going to quit and give up my awesome benefits and my growing pay because I have an insecure unintelligent boss.

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[Lizard Queen]

You put up if you have to.  There aren't a ton of decent jobs that are actually attainable in every city.  In my case, I had great vacation time, and my boss was great.  She put a damper on the bullies, and not everyone was terrible--just a few.  I left shortly after my boss did, as the bullies started getting worse/more demanding.  It was not easy, as I was the higher earner.  Now, I haven't gotten another job yet and may take a while to get back up to the salary I used to make.  So, it's not as simple as you make it seem

[tloonya]

Mar 13, 2016 13:22:06 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

You put up if you have to.  There aren't a ton of decent jobs that are actually attainable in every city.  In my case, I had great vacation time, and my boss was great.  She put a damper on the bullies, and not everyone was terrible--just a few.  I left shortly after my boss did, as the bullies started getting worse/more demanding.  It was not easy, as I was the higher earner.  Now, I haven't gotten another job yet and may take a while to get back up to the salary I used to make.  So, it's not as simple as you make it seem

Of course it is horrible time to quit the job that is toxic before you found a new one!

I am just saying that no one who are complaining about their bosses and stuff

mentioned that they are looking to get out of the situation.

In you case how can an adult be bullied?

[tloonya]

Mar 13, 2016 13:20:56 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

 

I didn't stop looking though. In a perfect world I would have passed or quit sooner but I live in the real world and these decisions aren't so black and white.

This is exactly what I was looking for and wondering about.

[Lizard Queen]

Mar 13, 2016 13:41:17 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 13, 2016 13:22:06 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

You put up if you have to.  There aren't a ton of decent jobs that are actually attainable in every city.  In my case, I had great vacation time, and my boss was great.  She put a damper on the bullies, and not everyone was terrible--just a few.  I left shortly after my boss did, as the bullies started getting worse/more demanding.  It was not easy, as I was the higher earner.  Now, I haven't gotten another job yet and may take a while to get back up to the salary I used to make.  So, it's not as simple as you make it seem

Of course it is horrible time to quit the job that is toxic before you found a new one!

I am just saying that no one who are complaining about their bosses and stuff

mentioned that they are looking to get out of the situation.

In you case how can an adult be bullied?

I'm not sure bully is the best word for it, but it works for a one word description.  My case, gossiping (about everyone, not just me), coworkers demanding that I do things as if I were an underling, snide remarks (about anyone, not usually about me), constant complaining to the boss (about everything, not just me), undermining my cause to the boss, so that I didn't get the help that was needed/promised.  I guess it was mostly a toxic work environment, but some directly affected me and the ability to do my work.  The new controller couldn't stand one of them, but the CFO wasn't around much, and had the bullies' ear.  I really disliked most of that job anyway.  I tried to make it into something I didn't mind doing, but the bullies pushed it in the direction that I disliked the most.  My quitting ensured that they got the crap work, at least for a while. 

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Mar 13, 2016 13:41:17 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 13, 2016 13:22:06 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

You put up if you have to.  There aren't a ton of decent jobs that are actually attainable in every city.  In my case, I had great vacation time, and my boss was great.  She put a damper on the bullies, and not everyone was terrible--just a few.  I left shortly after my boss did, as the bullies started getting worse/more demanding.  It was not easy, as I was the higher earner.  Now, I haven't gotten another job yet and may take a while to get back up to the salary I used to make.  So, it's not as simple as you make it seem

Of course it is horrible time to quit the job that is toxic before you found a new one!

I am just saying that no one who are complaining about their bosses and stuff

mentioned that they are looking to get out of the situation.

In you case how can an adult be bullied?

Of course you don't!  Most people do not announce that they are looking for another job when they are.  

Adults can can be bullied.  It is usually done by a person in power to one that has less power.  Not a difficult concept.

[sarcasticgirl]

Mar 13, 2016 14:03:41 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Mar 13, 2016 13:41:17 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Of course it is horrible time to quit the job that is toxic before you found a new one!

I am just saying that no one who are complaining about their bosses and stuff

mentioned that they are looking to get out of the situation.

In you case how can an adult be bullied?

Of course you don't!  Most people do not announce that they are looking for another job when they are.  

Adults can can be bullied.  It is usually done by a person in power to one that has less power.  Not a difficult concept.

Especially when No one asks!

I am working with a recruiter right now to find a better opportunity. DH has been looking for a year. He scheduled an appt. With a career counselor and resume writing service before he quit... but quit before his appt. He kept the appt. And gets his revamped resume on Wednesday. has a phone interview next week as well.

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[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Mar 13, 2016 13:41:17 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 13, 2016 13:22:06 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

You put up if you have to.  There aren't a ton of decent jobs that are actually attainable in every city.  In my case, I had great vacation time, and my boss was great.  She put a damper on the bullies, and not everyone was terrible--just a few.  I left shortly after my boss did, as the bullies started getting worse/more demanding.  It was not easy, as I was the higher earner.  Now, I haven't gotten another job yet and may take a while to get back up to the salary I used to make.  So, it's not as simple as you make it seem

Of course it is horrible time to quit the job that is toxic before you found a new one!

I am just saying that no one who are complaining about their bosses and stuff

mentioned that they are looking to get out of the situation.

In you case how can an adult be bullied?

Easy. My BT boss threatened to not give me a good reference when I announced I was leaving. Most people really need a good reference and can't afford to leave that job off So they do as they are told.

In my case I could flip them the bird and come out unscathed.  My references are impeccable and I had just come off a job I held for five years. I didn't need my four month stint at BT for anything.

They are also know for using their connections to ruin people's opportunities if you don't play ball. They will neglect to turn in paperwork leaving you still employed with them.  They are so bad several previous employees had to escalate things to the director of HR before they could escape.

I didn't show my hand until I had a start date and signed contract with UNMC. Before that they held all the cards creating a situation ripe for abuse.

[zibazinski]

Mar 13, 2016 14:40:57 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Mar 13, 2016 13:41:17 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Of course it is horrible time to quit the job that is toxic before you found a new one!

I am just saying that no one who are complaining about their bosses and stuff

mentioned that they are looking to get out of the situation.

In you case how can an adult be bullied?

Easy. My BT boss threatened to not give me a good reference when I announced I was leaving. Most people really need a good reference and can't afford to leave that job off So they do as they are told.

In my case I could flip them the bird and come out unscathed.  My references are impeccable and I had just come off a job I held for five years. I didn't need my four month stint at BT for anything.

They are also know for using their connections to ruin people's opportunities if you don't play ball. They will neglect to turn in paperwork leaving you still employed with them.  They are so bad several previous employees had to escalate things to the director of HR before they could escape.

I didn't show my hand until I had a start date and signed contract with UNMC. Before that they held all the cards creating a situation ripe for abuse.

Sure gives a different impression of Boys Town than Father Flanagans.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I worked for a very small part of it. I'm told the other research departments are totally different.  Their clinical research is world renowned.  I wouldn't have minded working there.

My former bosses are academci bad apples.  Not the first I've encountered and doubt they were the last.

They are the last ones I'll ever work for directly though if I can avoid it.

[Deleted]

Mar 13, 2016 10:46:30 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

I worked in a school system. Toxic from the head on down. 

I once skimmed a German-language job review site (wish I could remember the name but it was similar to GlassDoor.com) and the subject line of one review of my employer read, "Der Fisch Stinkt vom Kopf" (the fish stinks from the head). Even better in German!

I've been in a few toxic environments.  In general, I've loved my work and been respected by my colleagues; I even served 2 terms on the Board of my professional society.  I've still ended up in a couple of dysfunctional environments with people who are now on my extremely short list of people I never want to work with again.  My own personal list of dealbreakers includes tantrums, lies, general inability to be trusted, and inflexibility. 

As for why people put up with it:  it's not always easy to find a job in your field in your area.  You may even be so beaten down from being screamed at and put down or from working 70-hour weeks that a productive job search is impossible.  My last job, I worked for a passive-aggressive boss I realized I couldn't trust and my last day in the office was a week after calling my husband on a Friday and saying, "I think I'm going to quit my job on Monday".  That was after 38 years of working and saving, though, living an a LCOL area with a husband collecting SS and a son finished with college and out of the house.  It's not an option for everyone.

[gregintenn]

Mar 13, 2016 11:58:47 GMT -5 tloonya said:

There is no reason for any of you to stay in this environment.

As soon as you have gotten screamed at - start looking for another job,

however I can see that for years each of you had been putting up with

this and done nothing.

And if bad boss is treating everyone poorly - why not to get group complain

into HR about it?

I've been working at the same place for 23 years. The moment I get screamed at, somebody's gonna be missing a few teeth.

[bean29]

Mar 13, 2016 11:58:47 GMT -5 tloonya said:

There is no reason for any of you to stay in this environment.

As soon as you have gotten screamed at - start looking for another job,

however I can see that for years each of you had been putting up with

this and done nothing.

And if bad boss is treating everyone poorly - why not to get group complain

into HR about it?

I pretty much like my job and my co-workers, but some days/weeks it just demands so much of me I want something easier.

That said, I am an Accountant by trade, simply changing jobs won't give be less work. My working conditions and demands would be similar. Some accountants make more than me but their tax and accounting knowledge is broader than mine.

I can't ask for more $$. We will go on our line of credit this week to pay our Federal taxes. Maybe in one more year things will be better, but we had a lot of building repairs that were costly and we built a few buildings which required us to put about 30% down + we remodeled & added on to others. Occupancy is the best we have seen in 10 years so things should be looking much better in a year or so.

I do have a temperamental boss, he takes on too much himself, but he has family not pulling their full weight. Still, when I need something from him, I get it...so you just take it in stride.

I made it through my crunch. I will still have a busy 4 days next week, but the next 2 mos. should be easier.

[happyhoix]

Mar 13, 2016 13:41:17 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 13, 2016 13:22:06 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

You put up if you have to.  There aren't a ton of decent jobs that are actually attainable in every city.  In my case, I had great vacation time, and my boss was great.  She put a damper on the bullies, and not everyone was terrible--just a few.  I left shortly after my boss did, as the bullies started getting worse/more demanding.  It was not easy, as I was the higher earner.  Now, I haven't gotten another job yet and may take a while to get back up to the salary I used to make.  So, it's not as simple as you make it seem

Of course it is horrible time to quit the job that is toxic before you found a new one!

I am just saying that no one who are complaining about their bosses and stuff

mentioned that they are looking to get out of the situation.

In you case how can an adult be bullied?

I had a Boss from Hell for a while. If you went to HR and said anything about it, he lied and claimed you were making stuff up. Or, if you were a woman, that you were 'hysterical.'  He was careful to keep his bullying to verbal abuse so there was never a written record of what he said, so it was always a he said/she said situation.

In my 40 years of experience, companies tend to side with the most valuable person, so generally if there is a disagreement between a manager and his direct report and there is no evidence to prove the case one way or another, HR doesn't do much except document the complaint. What made it harder was HR was two states away in the corporate office and not present day to day in our branch office to witness the poisonous work atmosphere the boss was creating.

It finally took a big enough complaint about him that HR came to visit the site for several days and interviewed every manager. I guess that finally demonstrated that the Boss was bad (how could so many managers be lying about the same thing?) and they removed him from the job. But it took us about 4 years to get to that point. I was searching for a new job the whole four years, but I work in kind of a specialized job and there usually aren't many available in our town, and I didn't want to relocate the whole family to move.

[tloonya]

Mar 13, 2016 19:44:30 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Mar 13, 2016 11:58:47 GMT -5 tloonya said:

There is no reason for any of you to stay in this environment.

As soon as you have gotten screamed at - start looking for another job,

however I can see that for years each of you had been putting up with

this and done nothing.

And if bad boss is treating everyone poorly - why not to get group complain

into HR about it?

I've been working at the same place for 23 years. The moment I get screamed at, somebody's gonna be missing a few teeth.

Yeah...I can't get yelled at as well. I just can't! Not even with Xanax in my teeth! What am I supposed to do? Not to carry weapons!

[NancysSummerSip]

4. The egotistical narcissist. Regularly asks your opinion but gets angry if it isn't the same as his and will make a snide comment if you don't weigh in. So you give your opinion and get shot down, don't give an opinion at all and get shot down, agree with his opinion and ding ding ding - we have a winner. Smiles all around.

Describes my last office manager perfectly. Nothing made her happy, unless she was one-upping everyone around her. And FWIW, I was looking for a new job before I got laid off two months ago. Still looking, and while I am not happy about it, at least I am mentally and emotionally in a better place at the moment.

And as Zib pointed out:

If you have bills to pay and dependents to care for you don't just up and quit. Sometimes you have to suck it up and deal as best you can.

You do what you have to do at times when people depend on you. You don't have to like it or enjoy it. But you keep looking to do better.