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Post by beergut on Feb 27, 2016 16:19:03 GMT -5
GF's oldest son, the Marine, is finishing up his tour.
His wife has moved back home, and is staying with her parents for a few weeks while he gets everything settled up at the base, and then they'll move into an apartment in the area. They have three dogs, so his wife took two dogs to stay with her at her parents' house (where they have two dogs of their own, so four dogs total). The other dog is staying at GF's house right now.
This dog, a 1 yr old golden retriever, has a bad habit of chewing on and tearing things up. She recently tore up one of the 14YO's sneakers.
Yesterday, she apparently chewed up two Chukkas sandals that belonged to the 17YO. These are her favorite sandals that she owns, and they cost about $100.
Oldest son says he can't afford to pay for a new pair of sandals for her, and she should just put all of her shoes and sandals up where the dog can't get to them.
I'm of the opinion that since he and his wife both work, they can find a way to scrape up $100 to replace the sandals.
Boarding the dog would cost a hell of a lot more than $100, and since their dog destroyed 17YO's property, I think he should make good on it.
What do you think?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 16:21:00 GMT -5
Why were sandles where dog could get them? If you don't want dog, send him back. If you take dog, take responsibility for dog.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 27, 2016 16:32:44 GMT -5
Which ever adult in your home paid for the sneakers and sandals should be the one asking for the payback. If it is the mother of both the 7YO and 17YO, then she should make the call. If you paid for the two pair of shoes, and the children are not biologically yours, then the mother should pay you back if her son will not.
In the mean time, all shoes kept out of dog's way. Give the dog something else to chew on such as a bone.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Feb 27, 2016 16:35:20 GMT -5
He should replace the girls shoes and apologise to her... for the damage his dog did. Its an upheaval for him, his wife and animals...... but its also an upheaval for those who are putting them up until they get sorted. They must not take advantage of their hosts who are trying to do them a favour.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 16:37:29 GMT -5
Did he warn the family of the dog's penchant to chew up shoes? If he did and they still agreed to take the dog it's on them. If he didn't it's on him.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Feb 27, 2016 16:38:11 GMT -5
Ooohh...this has a lot of sides to it.
If I'm going to agree to having an animal (or toddler) in my home, then it's my responsibility to take care of my stuff. If I make six figures, I'm probably not going to ask some one making in the $30K/year range for money. If I'm trying to teach my child to be responsible, I'd let the natural consequence take place.
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Post by giramomma on Feb 27, 2016 16:55:07 GMT -5
This dog, a 1 yr old golden retriever, has a bad habit of chewing on and tearing things up. She recently tore up one of the 14YO's sneakers. Yesterday, she apparently chewed up two Chukkas sandals that belonged to the 17YO. These are her favorite sandals that she owns, and they cost about $100. The dog has chewed through TWO pairs? What was everything thinking? That the sneakers were a fluke and the sandals were totally safe because they weren't sneakers? Why does the 17 yo deserve to have her shoes replaced and not the 14yo? I think all parties are equally at fault. I think the oldest son and his wife should put $50 towards a new pair of sandals. And with moving into an apartment, likely need a security deposit, plus rent, plus $$ for other things, I could see how an extra $100 could be an issue.
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Post by swamp on Feb 27, 2016 17:58:08 GMT -5
If it was my dog, I would pay to replace whatever s/he ate.
I have had labs. They chew everything, so I'm not surprised this happened.
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Post by obelisk on Feb 27, 2016 18:03:30 GMT -5
GF's oldest son, the Marine, is finishing up his tour. His wife has moved back home, and is staying with her parents for a few weeks while he gets everything settled up at the base, and then they'll move into an apartment in the area. They have three dogs, so his wife took two dogs to stay with her at her parents' house (where they have two dogs of their own, so four dogs total). The other dog is staying at GF's house right now. This dog, a 1 yr old golden retriever, has a bad habit of chewing on and tearing things up. She recently tore up one of the 14YO's sneakers. Yesterday, she apparently chewed up two Chukkas sandals that belonged to the 17YO. These are her favorite sandals that she owns, and they cost about $100. Oldest son says he can't afford to pay for a new pair of sandals for her, and she should just put all of her shoes and sandals up where the dog can't get to them. I'm of the opinion that since he and his wife both work, they can find a way to scrape up $100 to replace the sandals. Boarding the dog would cost a hell of a lot more than $100, and since their dog destroyed 17YO's property, I think he should make good on it. What do you think? The owner of the dog should pay. Moving forward the household the dog resides in is responsible.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Feb 27, 2016 18:13:42 GMT -5
Is this the same 17 yr old that is spending money for a prom dress? I keep getting all these 17 yr olds confused.
My dog chews up your crap I pay to replace. Period.
But then I'm not a good YM're and I would have boarded my friggin' dogs in the first place. Sometimes cheap just doesn't pay
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Feb 27, 2016 18:14:04 GMT -5
The dog owner should pay. The dog sitters should keep in mind that moving an animal out of the environment he/she is used to may cause some acting out. They should keep an eye on the dog accordingly. My dog never chews on anything that doesn't belong to him - but that's in my home. If he was out of his element, he may very well act out. I'd expect to pay for it if he did.
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Post by beergut on Feb 27, 2016 18:32:55 GMT -5
Ooohh...this has a lot of sides to it.
If I'm going to agree to having an animal (or toddler) in my home, then it's my responsibility to take care of my stuff. If I make six figures, I'm probably not going to ask some one making in the $30K/year range for money. If I'm trying to teach my child to be responsible, I'd let the natural consequence take place.
I don't see how someone's income is relevant when talking about damage done to someone else. If a person on welfare smashes into your car, should they say, "You make more than I do, therefore you shouldn't ask me to fix your car"?
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Post by beergut on Feb 27, 2016 18:34:14 GMT -5
Is this the same 17 yr old that is spending money for a prom dress? I keep getting all these 17 yr olds confused.
My dog chews up your crap I pay to replace. Period.
But then I'm not a good YM're and I would have boarded my friggin' dogs in the first place. Sometimes cheap just doesn't pay Same 17YO There is 17YO, 16YO, and 14YO in this house
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Post by beergut on Feb 27, 2016 18:35:22 GMT -5
Did he warn the family of the dog's penchant to chew up shoes? If he did and they still agreed to take the dog it's on them. If he didn't it's on him. I'm not sure. It is his wife's dog. Knowing her, she probably didn't say anything.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Feb 27, 2016 18:37:35 GMT -5
Did the 17YO agree to watch the dog, or was it someone else in the household? She could have been more responsible with her stuff, but I would be annoyed (especially at that age) if my mom agreed to watch my brother's dog, and then everyone told me to just suck it up when the dog destroyed something that mattered to me. I think either the brother, the mom, or a combination of the two should try to compensate her in some way (not necessarily with new $100 shoes, especially if they can't afford it).
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 27, 2016 18:54:18 GMT -5
Yes he should but does not mean he will.... So ask girlfriend to cough up the money to keep the peace!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 18:57:05 GMT -5
Why don't boys sneakers matter?
What does gf think?
Is son required to pay for anything the dog chews? Regardless of whether or not the people watching him are taking proper care that the puppy can't reach things he should not?
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Post by Ombud on Feb 27, 2016 19:24:41 GMT -5
I'm a bad YM. No he should not pay as: ♤ someone living in the house agreed to take the dogs. That person is responsible. ♡ It's family, don't look for reimbursement ◇ $100 sandals is wasteful, dumb if you can't afford to lose them
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Post by NoNamePerson on Feb 27, 2016 19:28:06 GMT -5
Next time someone wants to use you as cheap boarding house for their dogs there is that little word NO that works every time. No chewed up shoes and shit about who pays for what. Problem solved.
And don't feel bad about saying NO, they will keep asking people till someone say yes and then the cycle starts all over about shoes and shit
ETA: But cycle is at someone else's house~~
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 19:43:57 GMT -5
Let's be clear. This isn't a dog. This is a puppy. One doesn't take a puppy without understanding what that entails, I would hope.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 20:04:10 GMT -5
If my dog wrecked my younger siblings shoes I'd feel obligated to replace them, but I don't think he should HAVE to. I do think Mom should since she agreed to take the puppy in. I agree with the pp that stated that there is a lot of blame to go around here though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 20:32:36 GMT -5
If I took a dog into my home that I didn't know well, I'd keep things put away while I learned how he/she behaves. If I had kids at home, I'd tell them to keep their things away from where the dog can get them if they don't want anything to happen to it. Imo, that's my responsibility to protect my stuff and the dog, so no I wouldn't ask the owner to replace. If the dog was too much for me, I would tell the owner they had to come get it though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 20:45:02 GMT -5
If I took a dog into my home that I didn't know well, I'd keep things put away while I learned how he/she behaves. If I had kids at home, I'd tell them to keep their things away from where the dog can get them if they don't want anything to happen to it. Imo, that's my responsibility to protect my stuff and the dog, so no I wouldn't ask the owner to replace. If the dog was too much for me, I would tell the owner they had to come get it though. I think the owner has a responsibility to point out any behavioural issues the dog has so the favour granter can make an informed choice. The fact that this is the one dog that didn't go to the wife's parents makes me think her parents, though they love dogs, said no way.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Feb 27, 2016 21:00:09 GMT -5
Ooohh...this has a lot of sides to it.
If I'm going to agree to having an animal (or toddler) in my home, then it's my responsibility to take care of my stuff. If I make six figures, I'm probably not going to ask some one making in the $30K/year range for money. If I'm trying to teach my child to be responsible, I'd let the natural consequence take place.
If I am doing YOU a favor by watching YOUR dog, and your dog destroys my property - you better at least try to make it up to me instead of telling me what I should or should not have done.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 27, 2016 21:10:50 GMT -5
Swap dogs and ask for a non-chewer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 21:14:06 GMT -5
What is GF saying? Who chose the puppy to go to her house? Has no one there every raised a puppy? Did the daughter know the puppy already ate a shoe?
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Post by Angel! on Feb 27, 2016 21:31:09 GMT -5
They agreed to take the puppy. Puppies chew shoes. The puppy already chewed up a shoe. Common sense tells you to put the shoes away.
Now as a pet owner I would offer to replace them to be nice. If I was the pet sitter, I would admit it was own stupidity and not ask for money for the shoes.
My answer might change had the puppy destroyed something that couldn't be put away such as furniture or carpet. But in this case the shoes should have been put away.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 27, 2016 21:47:31 GMT -5
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Post by beergut on Feb 27, 2016 22:48:18 GMT -5
Did the 17YO agree to watch the dog, or was it someone else in the household? She could have been more responsible with her stuff, but I would be annoyed (especially at that age) if my mom agreed to watch my brother's dog, and then everyone told me to just suck it up when the dog destroyed something that mattered to me. I think either the brother, the mom, or a combination of the two should try to compensate her in some way (not necessarily with new $100 shoes, especially if they can't afford it). I believe GF agreed to watch the dog as a favor to her son. 17YO would let the dog sleep in her room. From what I understand, 17YO talked to her older brother on the phone yesterday, explained what happened, and he said he couldn't replace her shoes.
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Post by beergut on Feb 27, 2016 22:51:59 GMT -5
Next time someone wants to use you as cheap boarding house for their dogs there is that little word NO that works every time. No chewed up shoes and shit about who pays for what. Problem solved.
And don't feel bad about saying NO, they will keep asking people till someone say yes and then the cycle starts all over about shoes and shit
ETA: But cycle is at someone else's house~~ If you only knew.... GF and I had an argument about her taking in the dog. She took in the dog because she wanted to help out her son. She told me that "she'd look like a real b*tch" if her DIL's parents took in two dogs, and she refused to take in one and help out. I explained to her that if she has a problem telling her DIL 'no' that she should leave it up to me, I have no problem whatsoever saying that word.
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