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Post by giramomma on Feb 10, 2024 10:45:19 GMT -5
I've taken a break from looking.
The last interview I was on around the holidays. It was for a newish position, and some folks had been in the unit for about 5-7 years. It was pretty clear they had little experience and I was shocked at how behind the times they were in the field we both work in.
You can't hire someone with 3x the experience to report to you. And they did not indicate it was really more of a junior position.
This was the job, where I got rejected for my skill set per my rejection letter. and they never even asked me about my skill set. (Technical skills was for the third interview, which I didn't get).
I also didn't like the fact that the person that did the hiring didn't sit in on the interviews. Yet other people i would have barely worked with did.
IF they could have offered me the highest salary in the range, it also would have been a 10% pay cut.
This is what I mean, by folks in positions to hire not getting their poop together.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 10, 2024 10:54:07 GMT -5
I got quite a bit out of my coach. I mainly hired her to get me out of the defeated mindset I had at the time because I knew I needed to leave but couldn't get myself over the hump.
I landed my current job a couple weeks after our last session.
I've had problems here but that's not her fault. That's just corporate America and I've accepted that in science most managers are NOT people persons and that reflects in their style
The career coach helped me develop a road map of what I value in my work and what are deal-breakers. It's made me better at interviewing and also helped me have the confidence to say things aren't working time to go.
She also identified areas I need to work on if I want to transition out of lab work. Now that my personal life is settling down I want to start directing energy those places.
And skills I already have that may get me out.
It isn't her fault the first outside job I picked lately got frozen. Her advice did land me an interview outside a lab but I'd already accepted my current one.
I do kick myself for not going but that was all five minutes after MIL died. I give myself grave for sliding backwards and not exploring my options. The fact I was standing at the time was huge.
When looking I did not want one that did middle school type personality tests and would shoe horn me into boxes. I made sure that I found one who offered a free consult before paying so I could see if we geled.
I got a lot out of it in my opinion. She can't control the job market.
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Post by azucena on Feb 10, 2024 11:00:50 GMT -5
Ava - check with the college you graduated from as most offer career placement help for their graduates even years after the fact. Might also give you a network.
A few of us here, myself included, have proofread resumes for each other. If you're interested, we can make that happen via IM and email. You can delete our your identifying information (name/address/etc) for safety if you want.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 10, 2024 11:02:23 GMT -5
I took a break too. Outside resumes are going down the internet black hole.
The one I was shooting for at my current place is frozen due to yet another reorg.
Based on the employee survey I dodged a bullet not getting into micro. We have problems but damn. I think I'll take ours over theirs.
Thanks to said survey they are pushing development plans so I think I'm going to milk that focusing mainly on soft skills.
My temper tantrum won me the opportunity to brush up a major lab skill so I'm going to milk that too.
I was asked if I'd be interested in someone's position when they leave in July.
Not getting my hopes up BUT the fact that I'm now not the scourge of the lab raised my eyebrow. I'd be willing to accept it that would be a decent pay bump and move me up a career level which in turn would open more doors to other positions elsewhere.
I just don't have enough spoons to hunt right now and despite what they say there isn't much hiring at my level around here.
If I wanted to do warehouse, retail or go back to being a server sure. But I don't. It is nice to know though if the poop hit the fan I could probably easily go back to waiting tables and make okay money.
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Post by Opti on Feb 10, 2024 12:59:39 GMT -5
I wish you luck DQ.
All I am really getting is some extra training from my supervisor at this point. I said nothing when the boss mentioned the openings at other branches at my level, because why would I want to pay more to commute to another office far away? Sure, I escape somewhere I am not appreciated, but I need less outgo not more. I still make less than when I left the other place 3rd quarter 2021.
My supervisor is less than happy as well. She said to me, for her you're old and I am brown. Neither is incorrect but it is far from all we are. My supervisor is good with the temperamental printers we use for some printing among other things. But I don't know if the boss really cares or notices given the stories she tells herself and us almost every day. She thinks technology is the province of the young because she prefers to learn as little as possible. The boss found some pens in an unexpected place, and I think was about to take my supervisor to task when she was told her new hire had put them there. Suddenly it was OK and then of course time to sing the praises of her newest hire.
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Post by swamp on Feb 10, 2024 15:39:55 GMT -5
Ok, so yesterday I took another look at the internal jobs website for current employer. I was on hold on the phone and I browsed out of boredom, thinking I'll find nothing. Then I see it. A job I would like to get. It's for the Audit department. I have a CPA certificate and I would love to be able to use it. The pay grade is the same as mine. Location the same. It's a hybrid job, though it asks for the employee to be on site several times a week. Right now I go in once a week. As long as it's not fully in person, I don't mind going to the office more days. My qualifications match the job. I have a CPA, I have a Master, I have a Bachelor in Accounting. I have experience in the industry. The only thing I don't have is 2 years of experience in a similar role. I feel that would be a deal breaker. But I'm going to try for the job. I will email the HR rep. in charge of this posting and explain that I'm very motivated for this job. I will say that although I don't have the experience, my work is somewhat related and I think I can learn quickly. I really want this one. Same location, same pay grade, same PTO, same benefits, hybrid job, and in the Audit department, which is where I want to be. Apply anyway. Stretch your current experience to cover some of the qualifications. women generally look at the requirements for a job, have 90% of them, and immediately think they aren’t qualified. Men meet 50% of the requirements and immediately assume they are qualified. Don’t undersell yourself.
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Post by Ava on Feb 11, 2024 20:52:20 GMT -5
I have my application and resume ready to go for tomorrow morning. I haven't sent it yet because I thought it would look weird to apply on a Sunday night, from my work computer. Maybe I'm overthinking it.
The idea was to apply to a bunch of places; a couple of job placement agencies, a local bank, etc.
I haven't done it yet.
Somewhat, I'm overwhelmed. I haven't job hunted in 12 years. Besides, I want to give this internal job a chance before I start looking at new places. In a way, I feel like I'm shortchanging myself with just one application. I need to move from current position ASAP. One application a week won't cut it. At least now I have a complete resume and I can apply to several places next weekend if this doesn't pan out.
It would be better for me to remain with the same company. Looking at salaries posted, it would be difficult to make the same money I make there. And it's not like I make that much. After so many years out of the job market, it's shocking to see how little the pay is for positions that ask for years of experience, plus advanced education. We're talking around $65,000 a year for an experienced accountant with a Bachelor's, maybe a Master's and, gasp, sometimes even a CPA certification.
Anyway, I'll hit send on the application tomorrow morning before I start working.
I hope I have a chance in the Audit department. Would be great.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 12, 2024 10:53:37 GMT -5
It's a start Ava! It always feels overwhelming. It iwll get better.
Good luck!
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Post by seriousthistime on Feb 12, 2024 11:50:20 GMT -5
Apply anyway. Stretch your current experience to cover some of the qualifications. women generally look at the requirements for a job, have 90% of them, and immediately think they aren’t qualified. Men meet 50% of the requirements and immediately assume they are qualified. Don’t undersell yourself. For my last job, the application process had me rating my skills in various areas. I would have rated myself relatively low (2 out of 5) in a couple of areas and upon discussing it with friends, they pointed out the skill I had in almost identical areas that would lead to a higher score. After their convincing, I rated myself a 4 out of 5 in those areas. I got the job, and got a significant promotion 2 years later. I guess I must have had the needed qualifications.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 13, 2024 9:09:39 GMT -5
The job I applied for internally popped back up now that the reorg is done. The hiring manager reached out and asked me if I was still interested and let me know I'd need to fill out a new application since it's under a different manager.
So that's what I did.
I was venting to DH a bit about the whole career level thing. I said we seem to be playing the "you can't get credit if you don't have credit" game here. I can't get a "promotion" because I haven't "paid my dues" they are pushing me to take positions that are at my level.
Well the problem is the only jobs at my level are here and in micro. It irritates me that apparently once you are an internal candidate your resume goes out the window the only thing that matters is what they hired you in as. I freaking left the university because of this.
We'll see I guess.
My other plan is big IF it was an actual serious proposition about if I would be interested in D's position and I could get it then I am at the level I "want" to be and that would open up more positions I could apply to at that level. So I could take that which would be a pay bump too and hang around for a couple more years continuing to apply elsewhere.
Ugh. I just don't like working period. I feel like humans weren't meant to be in a constant rat race to the bottom.
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Post by giramomma on Feb 13, 2024 13:11:55 GMT -5
There's a job I could apply for. I could keep my supervisor out of it.
Right up my alley. I come with most of the skills.
The top of the pay bracket is 10K less than I am making now.
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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 13, 2024 13:26:20 GMT -5
There's a job I could apply for. I could keep my supervisor out of it. Right up my alley. I come with most of the skills. The top of the pay bracket is 10K less than I am making now. That's frustrating. I'd still apply to get more info, but it would have to be everything and more with a real potential for growth to take the pay cut.
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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 13, 2024 13:30:14 GMT -5
Just heard that the company I was at for 15 years sold to a competitor. Its not in the news yet, so must have just been announced. Not that the door was really open, but now the doors burned down. Guess I should be glad I didn't stay, or didn't go back. Just gotta move forward.
Essentially every place I have ever worked is out of business.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 13, 2024 13:34:38 GMT -5
Just heard that the company I was at for 15 years sold to a competitor. Its not in the news yet, so must have just been announced. Not that the door was really open, but now the doors burned down. Guess I should be glad I didn't stay, or didn't go back. Just gotta move forward. Essentially every place I have ever worked is out of business. Yikes! Keep Swimming Rae! You always find something good eventually.
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Post by Opti on Feb 13, 2024 14:26:27 GMT -5
Just heard that the company I was at for 15 years sold to a competitor. Its not in the news yet, so must have just been announced. Not that the door was really open, but now the doors burned down. Guess I should be glad I didn't stay, or didn't go back. Just gotta move forward. Essentially every place I have ever worked is out of business. Maybe it just means you were no longer meant to be there, or their time was past.
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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 13, 2024 15:15:31 GMT -5
Just heard that the company I was at for 15 years sold to a competitor. Its not in the news yet, so must have just been announced. Not that the door was really open, but now the doors burned down. Guess I should be glad I didn't stay, or didn't go back. Just gotta move forward. Essentially every place I have ever worked is out of business. Yikes! Keep Swimming Rae! You always find something good eventually. I'm not there now - I left in August 2022 or so, and then went out on my own in October of last year. But just one of those places that seemed like it would last.
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Post by chen35 on Feb 14, 2024 18:58:54 GMT -5
Just heard that the company I was at for 15 years sold to a competitor. Its not in the news yet, so must have just been announced. Not that the door was really open, but now the doors burned down. Guess I should be glad I didn't stay, or didn't go back. Just gotta move forward. Essentially every place I have ever worked is out of business. The place you were at when we met up? I’m sorry. It’s nice to feel like you have a place like that as a backup plan.
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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 15, 2024 0:17:23 GMT -5
Just heard that the company I was at for 15 years sold to a competitor. Its not in the news yet, so must have just been announced. Not that the door was really open, but now the doors burned down. Guess I should be glad I didn't stay, or didn't go back. Just gotta move forward. Essentially every place I have ever worked is out of business. The place you were at when we met up? I’m sorry. It’s nice to feel like you have a place like that as a backup plan. Yep. It is weird. I was always frustrated with something there. Super frustrated usually. But I almost always felt like it was as good as a mortgage company could get.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 15, 2024 11:55:44 GMT -5
well, I'm jumping back in to aggressively looking for a new spot. I posted yesterday in another thread, and then took the rest of the day to not think about it at all. I have a call with a recruiter tomorrow afternoon, I've already sent her my resume. for those that don't follow the 'what are you doing?' thread, here's what I said yesterday. decision is made, just need to find the next adventure before leaving the current one. ugh. time to light a fire under my ass and find a new job. just had a 1:1 with my boss, and he did some digging while he was in town when I was on vacation. apparently, 5% of our bonus is tied to meeting the metric of being in the office 2x/wk. BUT, it's not just about me - it's a group metric. so I can't just make the decision that my time is worth whatever I lose in a bonus, I'd be screwing over the whole team out of it. that's not okay, and I don't want to be doing that. guess I'll be doing a deep dive into all those emails I get from LinkedIn. yeah, even my boss said he doesn't know where this push is coming from. and, that he's not looking forward to having to backfill all the stuff I actually do since it's a lot different than the rest of the team - I have ALL of the US packaging sites. my teammates have upstream manufacturing, so theirs involves a lot of actual pharma processing. oh, and none of them do product or market launches b/c that's all on the finished drug products. I'm really kind of on my own little island with what I do. well, keep your fingers crossed for me as I search. this is all such BS.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 15, 2024 12:34:35 GMT -5
Yay I got a round one interview with the manager for that internal position. Fingers crossed.
I really leaned into all the advice the career coach gave me and carefully crafted my resume focused on wording it to fully highlight my soft skills. For this particular position it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.
And I actually do like regulatory. I like order, I like rules. I like knowing that things/people are safe. I wanted to try for an IACUC certifier at the university but there was never a position open for it.
I believe I would enjoy this job and it would get me off the bench which has been a half formed goal of mine since I got my essential worker letter in 2020.
Also hoping this is a type of job that is not going to be super duper starry eyed over a master's or a PhD. That has come back to bite me in the ass more times than I can count and I am sick of it. I'd like to not be knocked out of the running by a 20 something who has a master's but no other work experience yet again.
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Post by Ava on Feb 15, 2024 21:02:42 GMT -5
Best of luck to everyone who's job hunting.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 15, 2024 21:08:11 GMT -5
Then I decided to take a leap and respond to a recruiter on LinkedIn. It's for a LIMs management job.
8-5 Monday through Friday.
Depending on what they want It's not a leap for me.
I'd like to see salary and possibly an employer name. At a certain distance It's not worth the drive if it's what I make or less. Certain areas here are death traps as far as traffic goes.
No thank you. While I'm frustrated in my current job I REALLY like my 7 minute commute. They'd have to make it worth my while to drive further into Omaha again.
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Post by Ava on Feb 15, 2024 21:17:38 GMT -5
I feel like a turtle in the job search front.
I kept tweaking my resume and I didn't have it ready until yesterday late afternoon.
I was aware there's a different process for internal candidates at current company. A few months ago, HR sent an email saying to not apply through the website. But I didn't remember if you had to send an email to the HR rep in charge of the posting, or directly to the hiring manager.
So, in order to avoid stepping on any toes, I sent an email to the HR rep late Wednesday. I attached my resume, explained I'm an internal candidate, and asked her if I should send the resume to her or to the hiring manager. It was a very short email. I haven't heard back so far. My email just requires a yes or no kind of answer.
If I don't hear back by end of day tomorrow, I'll just apply to the website on Tuesday, after the long weekend.
And I hope I get organized enough to go to the library on Saturday and start applying to external jobs. I don't want to be frantic and/or desperate, but I need to start moving this search forward.
My current job environment is very hostile and stressful. I call myself lucky that it hasn't had any big repercussions on my mental or physical health so far. But it's just a matter of time and I'm already struggling with feeling tired all the time and wanting to sleep a lot. Need to move on.
I would like to apply to a small local bank, and then reach out to two job placement agencies this Saturday. I hope no website asks for a cover letter. I don't even have one and I don't want to waste even more hours now crafting a cover letter. They are mostly things of the past, but I know some companies still ask for one in your application.
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Post by Ava on Feb 15, 2024 21:20:15 GMT -5
Then I decided to take a leap and respond to a recruiter on LinkedIn. It's for a LIMs management job. 8-5 Monday through Friday. Depending on what they want It's not a leap for me. I'd like to see salary and possibly an employer name. At a certain distance It's not worth the drive if it's what I make or less. Certain areas here are death traps as far as traffic goes. No thank you. While I'm frustrated in my current job I REALLY like my 7 minute commute. They'd have to make it worth my while to drive further into Omaha again. It's hard to give up a 7-minute commute. I still remember when I had that, and it was great. Then they moved the office, and I had a 50–60-minute commute each way. Now we mostly work from home, but I rather work at a worksite that's close by, instead of being home by myself all day. Good luck and I hope you get positive information from the recruiter.
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Post by daisylu on Feb 16, 2024 7:51:04 GMT -5
Yay I got a round one interview with the manager for that internal position. Fingers crossed. I really leaned into all the advice the career coach gave me and carefully crafted my resume focused on wording it to fully highlight my soft skills. For this particular position it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. And I actually do like regulatory. I like order, I like rules. I like knowing that things/people are safe. I wanted to try for an IACUC certifier at the university but there was never a position open for it. I believe I would enjoy this job and it would get me off the bench which has been a half formed goal of mine since I got my essential worker letter in 2020. Also hoping this is a type of job that is not going to be super duper starry eyed over a master's or a PhD. That has come back to bite me in the ass more times than I can count and I am sick of it. I'd like to not be knocked out of the running by a 20 something who has a master's but no other work experience yet again. In regards to the bolded, DS (22) was diagnosed as ADHD at 3 years old and that describes him to a T. I already knew before the testing and still had to fight his pediatrician on meds. I have had to advocate for him because between the your generation and his everybody was trying to medicate their kids, but I KNEW my kid needed it. What 6YO you know has to read directions on a toy or watch before they will play with it? I believe you mentioned it before in regards to yourself.
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 16, 2024 13:45:08 GMT -5
Yay I got a round one interview with the manager for that internal position. Fingers crossed. I really leaned into all the advice the career coach gave me and carefully crafted my resume focused on wording it to fully highlight my soft skills. For this particular position it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. And I actually do like regulatory. I like order, I like rules. I like knowing that things/people are safe. I wanted to try for an IACUC certifier at the university but there was never a position open for it. I believe I would enjoy this job and it would get me off the bench which has been a half formed goal of mine since I got my essential worker letter in 2020. Also hoping this is a type of job that is not going to be super duper starry eyed over a master's or a PhD. That has come back to bite me in the ass more times than I can count and I am sick of it. I'd like to not be knocked out of the running by a 20 something who has a master's but no other work experience yet again. In regards to the bolded, DS (22) was diagnosed as ADHD at 3 years old and that describes him to a T. I already knew before the testing and still had to fight his pediatrician on meds. I have had to advocate for him because between the your generation and his everybody was trying to medicate their kids, but I KNEW my kid needed it. What 6YO you know has to read directions on a toy or watch before they will play with it?
I believe you mentioned it before in regards to yourself. DGS1 (he is older now but he was like that at 6yo) but then again he has been diagnosed with severe ADHD as well. Fortunately they haven't experienced the meds shortage we have seen here in the US.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 16, 2024 13:52:47 GMT -5
Random segway but Archie was copying my dad trying to read the directions to the new Hot Wheels race track they got him for Christmas. I asked Archie what they said and he goes "I don't know!" Typical.
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Post by Ava on Feb 16, 2024 21:34:44 GMT -5
My manager called me today. It's gotten so bad that when I see his name on the screen, I immediately ask myself "what is he going to recriminate me for now?". Because that's all I get, recriminations and complaints.
But it was about the yearly evaluation I had in December, before I left on vacation. Back then, he said I had a "Meets most expectations". The next day after I came from vacation, he changed it to "Does not meet expectations".
Since they generally give bonuses and announce raises in early February, I thought I hadn't gotten anything this year. Well, today he called me to let me know I got a 2.7% raise and 8.5% of salary as a bonus. My target bonus is 10% of salary. We didn't talk much. I said "ok", he said "we all got less money this year", which I know is a lie, so I asked him if he needed anything else. He said no, and we hang up.
I was already convinced I got nothing, so it is a pleasant surprise.
I applied today for that internal job, since I never got an answer from the HR rep.
I will begin applying for external jobs, but I'm very unmotivated to see how low salaries are. It would be better for me to remain with this company, obviously in another department, so I can keep current salary. So if I don't get this one, I'll keep looking because there are other jobs in the company I could apply for.
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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 16, 2024 21:50:50 GMT -5
I don't mean to stop you from applying but with a 'does not meet expectations' eval I think an internal transfer will be an uphill battle. I would focus your energy on external jobs.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 17, 2024 9:05:51 GMT -5
Ava I know in my company if you are rated below expectations, are on a PIP or anyhow that indicates you're not performing your current job you are automatically disqualified for any internal positions.
They also here automatically talk to your current boss. You can't say no I'd rather not use him here is another reference.
If that is the case here your boss is going to be honest about your current performance.
You can apply but don't be shocked at no response.
I think you're time with this company is at an end. You need to focus on external positions where you can lean on other references and cut your boss out.
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