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Post by NastyWoman on Nov 11, 2021 16:32:52 GMT -5
12/3 is my last day. After that I am a lady of leisure ETA: the lady part may be overstating it a bit, but definitely leisure
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Post by TheOtherMe on Nov 11, 2021 18:00:20 GMT -5
Congrats on having an official last day of work.
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 12, 2021 20:55:50 GMT -5
Congrats, joss!! Excited for you and the next adventure!
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Post by bean29 on Nov 15, 2021 13:48:06 GMT -5
OK, so DD was invited to interview on Thursday at 10 am or 11 am. She is supposed to work on Thursday. DD, Her immediate supervisor and Manager are all off today. Her Supervisor has a Funeral out of state (not immediate family), and her boss will be in Atlanta combined business and personal- (his Mom is having surgery). She said 3 people were on the list that applied, but only 2 interview slots were showing. Also she said her supervisor and manager expected the 1st interview to be virtual.
She does not yet know if she will be expected to fly out Wed eve and stay overnight or if she will fly in and out same day. She said the person she knows that asked her to apply said when he got his job out there he expensed his hotel stays until he found a place to live. It is kind of hard to negotiate salary when you don't know what the living expenses will be.
She also said another higher position is open and she would have normally applied for that. That position is in Detroit. The salary for the Detroit position is about what or higher than what she will go for on the lower level Boston Position.
Her boyfriend just got back from Orlando, and is leaving for Pittsburg after work, I think that is business too, so she has not been able to discuss with him as it is coming up so fast. She said she can not discuss with him rn bc he is working.
She asked me if she should notify her bosses. I said yes as the schedule would be impacted. She screen shot the invite to interview and was going to group chat them. It said right on the invite that they would not reschedule interviews.
I just told DH this am that DD applied for a job out east.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Nov 15, 2021 14:03:26 GMT -5
12/3 is my last day. After that I am a lady of leisure ETA: the lady part may be overstating it a bit, but definitely leisure How's your first Monday of retirement?
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Post by NastyWoman on Nov 15, 2021 15:15:59 GMT -5
It is not 12/3 yet so that remains to be seen Knee Deep in Water Chloe - I have spend my morning wishing it already was so as there are a number of issues I really don't want to deal with but I have to. I can't leave them behind for someone else to clean up.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Nov 15, 2021 16:26:07 GMT -5
Debating on if I should say something to our new manager or not. I don't trust this company as far as I can thrown it. Our HR person isn't really an HR person, as in no formal training and she tends to blab so that is out. I don't really know our new manager he hasn't taken the time to really get to know any of us.
I did not trust M as far as I could throw her but I didn't know how bad it really was till B had his exit interview and revealed to us everything HR "knew" about us. She had been building cases against us for months that we were completely unaware of and were coloring our interactions with HR when trying to talk to them about it.
New Manger doesn't seem that way but again too many two faced people here.
I'm also afraid of retaliation. It is a "she said/she said" situation and I can hear in my head how Peacock will spin it to make me sound like a weeney. Even though we just had company wide training that said it doesn't matter what SHE thinks, she created a hostile work environment for ME. What I interpreted that as (and others have also confirmed to me is correct) is what matters.
She is smart enough to not say anything or put anything in writing. She will abuse our workload so if I try to push back she can claim she did that because we needed to prioritze and were "just so busy" and for whatever God forsaken reason she couldn't do any of it herself. Since manager has not been back here ever he wouldn't see through her bull. He's going to take her word for it because she's the most experience and, at least in her brain, "the interim manager".
She's a bully and quickly becoming an even worse tyrant now that she thinks she has power. We're going to have the exact same problems we did with M if this keeps up, we already are to be honest.
So I am not sure what to do. She has more experience and knowledge and is therefore more "valuable" and there are currently two, soon to be three, people she can foist my work onto. Mortgage companies don't take doing the right thing as a payment.
Yet if I don't say anything what message does that send to my kids? Why should Peacock get away with being a sociopath? Even if nothing comes from it, which is likely in this company, at least it is on the radar so when we start losing new people again in 3-6 months they can be like "Oh DQ mentioned this too".
I am sitting on it to think for a couple days. if I do it I am going to do it while Peacock is on vacation next week. R also suggested we both start documenting then demand our one on one in February for our reviews. Then it's all in written record and Peacock won't be able to know which one of us three tattled on her.
Part of my burn out is DH is right. Given that I have spent the last 14 years having to job hop every 3-5 years has left me unstable as far as income and retirement. I have no intention of staying here forever but he agreed the likely best course is for me to keep my head down another couple years and then reevaluate. Right now I do have some senoritity and decent pay. While everyone is on a hiring spree now it doesn't mean they are going to keep all those people long term. Better right now to stick with a known, especially since the hospital is not that far in the rear view mirror.
But I don't know how much I can handle toxic workplace wise before I punch Peacock in the face either. In the last three years I have managed to build up quite the armor and I know part of her hostility towards me is I am not bending over to take it I am pushing back because as far as title goes at the moment.. I am her equal. So she's trying to find new ways to get at me and this time she hit a bulls eye.
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 15, 2021 21:28:45 GMT -5
I don't think 3-5 years is considered job hopping. 5-7 years is the sweet spot to change companies.
Several 1-2 year stints would be different.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Nov 15, 2021 21:43:24 GMT -5
I don't think 3-5 years is considered job hopping. 5-7 years is the sweet spot to change companies. Several 1-2 year stints would be different. It's not hopping my grants ended. It is easily verified if people want to look. It's more the disruptions in income and retirement savings over and over. My income has been like a yo yo. The salary I'm at now I never would have reached at the university for a host of reasons. I have been browsing but Omaha is seriously lagging in the rising salary department. Hopping backwards makes no sense. I know what I'm selling my soul for. I am at the moment keeping to my 5 year plan which would put me at 2023 then evaluate. I don't plan on staying here. Even with a higher starting salary 1-2% raises will force my hand it won't keep up with the next 30+ years inflation. I'm stuck now on what to do about the next 2 years. I suppose I can pray she retires. The job itself is not that bad. The company has it's issues but I'm insulated from a lot of it. Our department is awful. We thought M being gone would solve it. In some ways it did. In other ways it's backfired in spectacular fashion. I've always maintained all three alphas going would be best cause each one is a different flavor of bat shit. Turns out I was right. While it's morally the right thing to do I'm not sure I want to put my stability on the line only to have her win regardless. Or I can keep my head down and bolt when something better appears in a year or two. It's still better than the hospital was. Things CAN be worse. R suggested we document then demand our one on one in person meetings come Feb. We didn't get one this year he wiggled out saying he didn't know us. Policy says we have the right. So then she wouldn't know which of us it is and we have a paper trail.
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Post by justme on Nov 15, 2021 23:47:02 GMT -5
I realize that my experience is in "in" titles that are also damn near universal across companies - but if you're looking update your LinkedIn and at it at least to the middle level of letting recruiters know. Since I've switched to that I've had at least 5 people contact me about jobs. That's in a bit less than a month.
Been on vacation so working on chatting with them, but shocked at how many are messaging me!
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Nov 23, 2021 12:58:15 GMT -5
so for the work related chat, I've got something to ask.
So after I changed jobs 3 years ago, I went from senior X (individual contributor) to director of X and Y (3 in my reporting chain). I got a 40% increase, but I had been very underpaid so it wasn't like a huge leap and I think people with senior X title could hold that salary in a lot of places. But it was a big step up for me in salary and title and I was very pleased with it, overall.
but after a while it seemed my boss wanted me to do all the grunt work as well as the strategic planning, and that she'd take what I had done on conceptual work, maybe put a few tweaks on it and call it her own. At some point I found out she'd initiate supposedly casual "how should we look at this? what are our options? what's our strategie here?" conversations and take all my ideas into meetings with senior leadership as if they were hers. it was galling but it's your boss. Then after I'd been there a year, she started constantly making comments about me like I was a senior x, when I wasn't, but acting like the jobs were the same, but it was very different, a lot more going on. (like all of y) and direct and indirect reports, etc. She left, which was very good for me emotionally, and I absorbed all her job duties until I finally got the promotion. I swallowed alot and remained professional (and acting like I didn't notice she was stealing all my ideas, research, strategic, etc. but I did pull back over time on giving out a lot of ideas!). When she left she started calling me on phone to discuss issues at her new job! After one such nearly hour long call, I determined I wasn't going to do that and was just pretty nondescript the next time she called about her new work issues, not giving out any good ideas really, and she did stop calling after that.
She did linkedin congratulate me about my finally promoted title. we maintain light professional contact. I was thinking we could move on and be in the same network without any issues. I plan to retire soon, so would never compete for a job, maybe for employee? But seems low stakes to maintain the connection. So about a week ago, she emailed me about a job she thought I might be interested in. It's a senior x position. My current title is AVP of x and y, and I lead 3 teams of 2-3 per team, direct/indirect reports. If I had ever told her about wanting to downshift, ok, but since I hadn't! I feel kind of insulted!
Wondering what reframes you might have for me? Or am I right to think this is a bit off?
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 23, 2021 14:58:36 GMT -5
so for the work related chat, I've got something to ask. So after I changed jobs 3 years ago, I went from senior X (individual contributor) to director of X and Y (3 in my reporting chain). I got a 40% increase, but I had been very underpaid so it wasn't like a huge leap and I think people with senior X title could hold that salary in a lot of places. But it was a big step up for me in salary and title and I was very pleased with it, overall. but after a while it seemed my boss wanted me to do all the grunt work as well as the strategic planning, and that she'd take what I had done on conceptual work, maybe put a few tweaks on it and call it her own. At some point I found out she'd initiate supposedly casual "how should we look at this? what are our options? what's our strategie here?" conversations and take all my ideas into meetings with senior leadership as if they were hers. it was galling but it's your boss. Then after I'd been there a year, she started constantly making comments about me like I was a senior x, when I wasn't, but acting like the jobs were the same, but it was very different, a lot more going on. (like all of y) and direct and indirect reports, etc. She left, which was very good for me emotionally, and I absorbed all her job duties until I finally got the promotion. I swallowed alot and remained professional (and acting like I didn't notice she was stealing all my ideas, research, strategic, etc. but I did pull back over time on giving out a lot of ideas!). When she left she started calling me on phone to discuss issues at her new job! After one such nearly hour long call, I determined I wasn't going to do that and was just pretty nondescript the next time she called about her new work issues, not giving out any good ideas really, and she did stop calling after that. She did linkedin congratulate me about my finally promoted title. we maintain light professional contact. I was thinking we could move on and be in the same network without any issues. I plan to retire soon, so would never compete for a job, maybe for employee? But seems low stakes to maintain the connection. So about a week ago, she emailed me about a job she thought I might be interested in. It's a senior x position. My current title is AVP of x and y, and I lead 3 teams of 2-3 per team, direct/indirect reports. If I had ever told her about wanting to downshift, ok, but since I hadn't! I feel kind of insulted! Wondering what reframes you might have for me? Or am I right to think this is a bit off? I'd say off for sure. Whether it's intentional or not you'd have to gage by her other behavior, but doesn't sound like she will have much influence now or going forward so if it's an intentional slight, seems misguided and childish. Easy(ier) to ignore at least. At most I'd respond with- "thanks for thinking of me but I'm not looking to downshift at this point!" Or ignore it and minimally respond going forward.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Nov 23, 2021 16:07:03 GMT -5
so for the work related chat, I've got something to ask. So after I changed jobs 3 years ago, I went from senior X (individual contributor) to director of X and Y (3 in my reporting chain). I got a 40% increase, but I had been very underpaid so it wasn't like a huge leap and I think people with senior X title could hold that salary in a lot of places. But it was a big step up for me in salary and title and I was very pleased with it, overall. but after a while it seemed my boss wanted me to do all the grunt work as well as the strategic planning, and that she'd take what I had done on conceptual work, maybe put a few tweaks on it and call it her own. At some point I found out she'd initiate supposedly casual "how should we look at this? what are our options? what's our strategie here?" conversations and take all my ideas into meetings with senior leadership as if they were hers. it was galling but it's your boss. Then after I'd been there a year, she started constantly making comments about me like I was a senior x, when I wasn't, but acting like the jobs were the same, but it was very different, a lot more going on. (like all of y) and direct and indirect reports, etc. She left, which was very good for me emotionally, and I absorbed all her job duties until I finally got the promotion. I swallowed alot and remained professional (and acting like I didn't notice she was stealing all my ideas, research, strategic, etc. but I did pull back over time on giving out a lot of ideas!). When she left she started calling me on phone to discuss issues at her new job! After one such nearly hour long call, I determined I wasn't going to do that and was just pretty nondescript the next time she called about her new work issues, not giving out any good ideas really, and she did stop calling after that. She did linkedin congratulate me about my finally promoted title. we maintain light professional contact. I was thinking we could move on and be in the same network without any issues. I plan to retire soon, so would never compete for a job, maybe for employee? But seems low stakes to maintain the connection. So about a week ago, she emailed me about a job she thought I might be interested in. It's a senior x position. My current title is AVP of x and y, and I lead 3 teams of 2-3 per team, direct/indirect reports. If I had ever told her about wanting to downshift, ok, but since I hadn't! I feel kind of insulted! Wondering what reframes you might have for me? Or am I right to think this is a bit off? I'd say off for sure. Whether it's intentional or not you'd have to gage by her other behavior, but doesn't sound like she will have much influence now or going forward so if it's an intentional slight, seems misguided and childish. Easy(ier) to ignore at least. At most I'd respond with- "thanks for thinking of me but I'm not looking to downshift at this point!" Or ignore it and minimally respond going forward. oh good one! Wish I had used that, I responded last week, but it's been popping into my head this past week every so often and I think what? I immediately defaulted to pretending I didnt notice anything, like when she was my boss. Just reread my response - could have been made without even clicking into the link, like maybe I didn't even know what she was recommending. I just got a promotion a few months ago, so would be odd for me leave!
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Post by steph08 on Dec 22, 2021 17:49:34 GMT -5
Merry Christmas to me - just signed an offer letter for a new job!
Fully remote, unlimited vacation, cheaper benefits, 21% raise on base salary, plus 10% bonus opportunity.
I have it easy at my current job, but I'm just done here. I just don't have any care left after what they've done over the past several years.
Also Merry Christmas to my boss when I turn in my notice on Monday in the middle of a significant rebranding effort and have two holidays and a vacation day scheduled during my "two weeks notice."
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Dec 22, 2021 17:51:58 GMT -5
Merry Christmas to me - just signed an offer letter for a new job! Fully remote, unlimited vacation, cheaper benefits, 21% raise on base salary, plus 10% bonus opportunity. I have it easy at my current job, but I'm just done here. I just don't have any care left after what they've done over the past several years. Also Merry Christmas to my boss when I turn in my notice on Monday in the middle of a significant rebranding effort and have two holidays and a vacation day scheduled during my "two weeks notice." Brilliant! Congratulations!
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Dec 22, 2021 17:54:45 GMT -5
I'm working on my resume. We will be changing jobs and where we live over the coming summer.
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Post by Opti on Dec 22, 2021 18:33:38 GMT -5
so for the work related chat, I've got something to ask. So after I changed jobs 3 years ago, I went from senior X (individual contributor) to director of X and Y (3 in my reporting chain). I got a 40% increase, but I had been very underpaid so it wasn't like a huge leap and I think people with senior X title could hold that salary in a lot of places. But it was a big step up for me in salary and title and I was very pleased with it, overall. but after a while it seemed my boss wanted me to do all the grunt work as well as the strategic planning, and that she'd take what I had done on conceptual work, maybe put a few tweaks on it and call it her own. At some point I found out she'd initiate supposedly casual "how should we look at this? what are our options? what's our strategie here?" conversations and take all my ideas into meetings with senior leadership as if they were hers. it was galling but it's your boss. Then after I'd been there a year, she started constantly making comments about me like I was a senior x, when I wasn't, but acting like the jobs were the same, but it was very different, a lot more going on. (like all of y) and direct and indirect reports, etc. She left, which was very good for me emotionally, and I absorbed all her job duties until I finally got the promotion. I swallowed alot and remained professional (and acting like I didn't notice she was stealing all my ideas, research, strategic, etc. but I did pull back over time on giving out a lot of ideas!). When she left she started calling me on phone to discuss issues at her new job! After one such nearly hour long call, I determined I wasn't going to do that and was just pretty nondescript the next time she called about her new work issues, not giving out any good ideas really, and she did stop calling after that. She did linkedin congratulate me about my finally promoted title. we maintain light professional contact. I was thinking we could move on and be in the same network without any issues. I plan to retire soon, so would never compete for a job, maybe for employee? But seems low stakes to maintain the connection. So about a week ago, she emailed me about a job she thought I might be interested in. It's a senior x position. My current title is AVP of x and y, and I lead 3 teams of 2-3 per team, direct/indirect reports. If I had ever told her about wanting to downshift, ok, but since I hadn't! I feel kind of insulted! Wondering what reframes you might have for me? Or am I right to think this is a bit off? The beauty of this is, it isn't important to know her motivations because you no longer work with her. A simple thanks for thinking of me, but I am not interested. Or some nice version of Bless Your heart. As a peon, I had a boss who wanted my help, sort of talked me up, but also used me as cover for her own mistakes. Was nothing I could do about it, and it was hell until she left. The only version her management chain knew, was her lies.
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Post by Opti on Dec 22, 2021 18:51:00 GMT -5
I don't think 3-5 years is considered job hopping. 5-7 years is the sweet spot to change companies. Several 1-2 year stints would be different. It's not hopping my grants ended. It is easily verified if people want to look. It's more the disruptions in income and retirement savings over and over. My income has been like a yo yo. The salary I'm at now I never would have reached at the university for a host of reasons. I have been browsing but Omaha is seriously lagging in the rising salary department. Hopping backwards makes no sense. I know what I'm selling my soul for. I am at the moment keeping to my 5 year plan which would put me at 2023 then evaluate. I don't plan on staying here. Even with a higher starting salary 1-2% raises will force my hand it won't keep up with the next 30+ years inflation. I'm stuck now on what to do about the next 2 years. I suppose I can pray she retires. The job itself is not that bad. The company has it's issues but I'm insulated from a lot of it. Our department is awful. We thought M being gone would solve it. In some ways it did. In other ways it's backfired in spectacular fashion. I've always maintained all three alphas going would be best cause each one is a different flavor of bat shit. Turns out I was right. While it's morally the right thing to do I'm not sure I want to put my stability on the line only to have her win regardless. Or I can keep my head down and bolt when something better appears in a year or two. It's still better than the hospital was. Things CAN be worse. R suggested we document then demand our one on one in person meetings come Feb. We didn't get one this year he wiggled out saying he didn't know us. Policy says we have the right. So then she wouldn't know which of us it is and we have a paper trail. Employers are lazy in this age of the internet. Its easier to assume than to know. I got laid off so many times in the IT space I felt like I could start setting a timer for between two and three years to know when a merger, buyout or whatever would come and force me out of my job.
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Post by taz157 on Dec 23, 2021 19:16:28 GMT -5
I'm working on my resume. We will be changing jobs and where we live over the coming summer. Are both of you going to stay in education or want a different industry now? Good luck to both of you!
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Post by Opti on Dec 31, 2021 17:14:19 GMT -5
This is not a good sign. Sent off emails for an administrative position. A reply email, possibly automated, came back saying thank you for applying to "other position". I wonder if that means the other one was already hired, or they expected more applications for "other position".
IDK. I guess I will see what Jan. 3rd and beyond holds.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jan 14, 2022 22:31:08 GMT -5
I'm working on my resume. We will be changing jobs and where we live over the coming summer. Are both of you going to stay in education or want a different industry now? Good luck to both of you! HI! Sorry, I missed responding to this. I am staying in education. DH is eligible for retirement, but he doesn't necessarily want to retire. He doesn't have to work though, so he can be picky about applying for and accepting jobs. As he puts it, it's as much as him interviewing "them" as they are interviewing him.
I did come on to this thread tonight to say I have seriously considered applying for two jobs and slightly considered another four. Another one posted a few days ago though, and I'm absolutely applying to it. It would be amazing. I cannot fathom I will be selected, but I am going to throw my hat in the ring.
Tagging debthaven so she see's this update.
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Post by debthaven on Jan 15, 2022 19:02:35 GMT -5
Knee Deep in Water Chloe my former boss stepped down from her management position in Sept, after 11 years. She's staying, but "only" teaching now. She's either my age or a year younger (not sure), so heading towards retirement. Is that (or another "downward" move) something your DH might enjoy? B said she was sick of the internal politics and the ever-increasing admin tasks. She said she wanted to finish her career doing the job she loved, ie teaching. Just a thought. PS B was never in the public-facing position your DH is in.
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Post by Opti on Jan 17, 2022 14:23:55 GMT -5
Went down the rabbit hole with LinkedIn today. It has really changed, and given all the permission and ad stuff, its obvious its become a money generator selling your info like FB is.
Anyone know if LinkedIn accounts are regularly hacked? My contacts are larger than my network which is quite weird. I don't remember the last time I was on, but I haven't replied to people for some time.
Do you use LinkedIn? What do you find useful or not about it? I have always found it challenging because I am not one dimensional and am looking in different directions. I need employment to survive, but my heart is in the performing arts or finding a way to make my love of cars profitable for me.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 17, 2022 17:05:29 GMT -5
Went down the rabbit hole with LinkedIn today. It has really changed, and given all the permission and ad stuff, its obvious its become a money generator selling your info like FB is. Anyone know if LinkedIn accounts are regularly hacked? My contacts are larger than my network which is quite weird. I don't remember the last time I was on, but I haven't replied to people for some time. Do you use LinkedIn? What do you find useful or not about it? I have always found it challenging because I am not one dimensional and am looking in different directions. I need employment to survive, but my heart is in the performing arts or finding a way to make my love of cars profitable for me. LinkedIn shouldn't be used like Facebook. It's not being one dimensional - it's your professional works online profile. I don't actively post there, but I keep a very loose eye on it to see updates from professional contacts. Look for people at companies you want to work for and past coworkers and managers at new companies to be able to reach out.
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Post by jerseygirl on Jan 17, 2022 18:39:36 GMT -5
I still have a cv from 2019 on linked in and still get job inquiries Check your resume/cv And definitely use linked in to research companies your interested in and find people at the company. Request them to ‘link’ to you You can look up previous colleagues and ask for referrals It’s very helpful and I’ve never heard of anyone being hacked It’s a great networking tool
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Post by Opti on Jan 17, 2022 19:13:46 GMT -5
I need to update it. I used to train job seekers on networking as a volunteer, but current wisdom is always changing. I'm sure PSGCNJ probably has something current on LinkedIn. I am just amazed at some of the settings, but I knew it had been bought and became more commercial. I don't really like ads, even in the rare instance its something I am interested in. There were 5 pages of checked interests that you get signed up for. Do I want to reveal my gender, my age? Warning ad content may be less applicable. (I'm OK with that, although WC making me close ads for enterprise equipment etc. is way weird.) Heck LinkedIn decided to float me some CEO ads simply based on being a co-chair multiple times of a nonprofit. Heck, I never even campaigned to be the head of it. And because I got my old job when I did, I missed some of the good stuff of turning PSGCNJ into a recognized nonprofit but went through many revisions of our 5 day training materials. Reminds me I should volunteer to be one of those learning how to work the tech at church for Zoom services and general service stuff from the laptop.
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Post by steph08 on Jan 17, 2022 20:05:39 GMT -5
I spent a lot of time on LinkedIn while I was looking for a new job.
Some people do use it like Facebook - sharing political posts, selfish, etc. But I would just ignore those posts from my connections and see if any if them mentioned available jobs.
The Jobs board was super helpful and where I found my new opportunity. I also changed my profile as "open to work" and signed up for LinkedIn Premium (or whatever it is called) for a free month to see who was viewing my profile, send Inmail, etc.
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Post by cktc on Jan 19, 2022 20:22:52 GMT -5
LinkedIn is a challenge for career changes. I hid my profile for a year because I didn't want to hurt tourism business by marketing myself in Healthcare. I made a second account for a while then just decided to commit to healthcare and merged the accounts. It's definitely been a better tool for me in healthcare than it ever was for tourism.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 19, 2022 21:11:07 GMT -5
I've been off LinkedIn for awhile. It was 99% graduate students who started stalking me thinking that would get them a recommendation into my lab.
FYI it did not and I found it super creepy.
The career counselor said I'm going to want one now that I'm out. I think I'll do the same and create a new profile. I want to attract recruiters not desperate students.
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Post by Opti on Jan 20, 2022 8:41:32 GMT -5
I've been off LinkedIn for awhile. It was 99% graduate students who started stalking me thinking that would get them a recommendation into my lab. FYI it did not and I found it super creepy. The career counselor said I'm going to want one now that I'm out. I think I'll do the same and create a new profile. I want to attract recruiters not desperate students. Did you accept these people into your network? You will attract the interest you will attract, its commercialized social media. I have to tweak my settings because as expected LinkedIn thought it would be so helpful to send me job openings from all over the US for jobs that do not pay well enough to commute or move. Being a receptionist is not my calling, it's what I was able to get a job as years ago. Certain jobs should auto default to a small mileage band around where the job seeker lives. This is one of them. The auto settings are kind of creepy to me. It looks less like a tool for job search and more like fake news RW websites to me. But I will tweak it and grow my network up to the next tier. Just yet another thing I need to update and learn.
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