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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 6, 2016 20:43:27 GMT -5
Ok will take all that into consideration !
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 6, 2016 20:47:54 GMT -5
I worked two jobs for awhile after I started at the cop. So not worth it. I couldn't give 100% to either and was exhausted all the time. The final kick in the teeth came when we filed our taxes $1500. I only made $3k in all that time. I basically worked to pay the IRS. I'm never working two jobs again unless it comes down to that or starvation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 21:09:15 GMT -5
I worked two jobs for awhile after I started at the cop. So not worth it. I couldn't give 100% to either and was exhausted all the time. The final kick in the teeth came when we filed our taxes $1500. I only made $3k in all that time. I basically worked to pay the IRS. I'm never working two jobs again unless it comes down to that or starvation. Thanks, Drama. That's what I was trying to warn Carl about. Most of the people I know don't think about the taxes and then get pissed when they owe.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 6, 2016 21:25:57 GMT -5
I get it... I guess it is a bad idea. Better to focus on hitting bonus!
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 6, 2016 21:26:46 GMT -5
So I got my taxes done earlier and my tax lady showed me the tax consequences of no benefits package. So of the 3 jobs I was considering, I have reshuffled the priority list. The one outside of the industry was at the bottom of the list and now it's in the middle because it includes benefits. The sucky part is that the one without benefits is the best fit.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 6, 2016 21:54:27 GMT -5
Carl I think it's good you are looking at options to pay down debt. I would focus on cutting expenses instead of a second job though. I'm guessing the new position might not be a 40 hour a week gig. Keep looking for ways to cut expenses and focus on the bonus. $40k wipes out way more debt than a part time job at a restaurant.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 7, 2016 9:35:30 GMT -5
Working two jobs isn't a totally bad idea, its just not that simple. I did two jobs out of college and it worked out. I was single and not knee deep into my filed yet.
By the time I was working in the cop my list of duties had increased and I couldn't focus on all that and a second job.
I didn't make enough at the second job with what hours I could manage to make it worth it so I quit.
I think it'd be a better idea to come up with a plan for any overtime and a percentage of your bonus to be thrown at debt. Get mrs c on board now so the money isn't "spent" before you even get it.
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Post by suesinfl on Feb 7, 2016 10:01:02 GMT -5
So I got my taxes done earlier and my tax lady showed me the tax consequences of no benefits package. So of the 3 jobs I was considering, I have reshuffled the priority list. The one outside of the industry was at the bottom of the list and now it's in the middle because it includes benefits. The sucky part is that the one without benefits is the best fit. That's a rough decision to make, good luck!
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 7, 2016 17:19:07 GMT -5
Is 22% raise for jumping ship a good raise? Worth it?
Friend is asking me, having second thoughts. He has not resigned yet, plan to tomorrow!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 7, 2016 17:26:45 GMT -5
If I knew what the company did to you, I'd say it's good.
DH took the part time HYVee job. He has a drug test on Wednesday. He's pretty depressed about it but its what is best for us as a family.
He has a initial interview with the recruiter for the dairy on Tuesday morning. I said who knows you may have full time employment before you even start the part time job.
At any rate the part time job eases a lot of pressure. Can't be super picky but we can also do more homework since DH will be bringing in some income.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 7, 2016 17:33:49 GMT -5
If I knew what the company did to you, I'd say it's good. DH took the part time HYVee job. He has a drug test on Wednesday. He's pretty depressed about it but its what is best for us as a family. He has a initial interview with the recruiter for the dairy on Tuesday morning. I said who knows you may have full time employment before you even start the part time job. At any rate the part time job eases a lot of pressure. Can't be super picky but we can also do more homework since DH will be bringing in some income. Got to do what you got to do! Wish him good luck on his interview on Tuesday!
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Post by Works4me on Feb 7, 2016 19:28:17 GMT -5
I can't help thinking with his QA background the HyVee job has the potential to turn into something more.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 7, 2016 23:55:43 GMT -5
My wife and I had a slight disagreement today!
She thinks I am depressed and I need to see a therapist because I am not excited about my new job or salary, and how many people across the country would love to have my salary or how she would like to have that salary.
I am grateful for the job, I thank God every day and I know I am lucky. But like I posted before, for some reason the reaction that is expected of me "extreme happiness" is just not coming. I am still very excited that a good friend will start there with me (he is still on the fence) but that is it.
Maybe it was the roller coaster I was on the 2 weeks before I was offered the job, I don't know. I know I am not depressed, but I am not reacting normally to the job offer. Or is it maybe because I still haven't received a formal offer letter.. I don't know. But like I told my wife : I will fake it till it once I start the job, I am good at that, I will the happiest employee they've ever had.
Just need to figure out all the shit going through my brains..
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Post by Works4me on Feb 8, 2016 1:13:44 GMT -5
Carl - your reaction makes perfect sense to me. This job loss has shown you how fragile everything in life is - how easily you can lose your job through no real fault of your own. Yes, you were able to hustle and get another job lined up ASAP which is due to not only your intrinsic abilities but luck also has a lot to do with it. Unfortunately, or even fortunately, you will never go back to those naive days of thinking if you show up and do your best, all will be right with you and yours in your world.
Yes, you were promoted quickly at your last job but you worked hard and gave it your all. Yet when things became a bit tarnished - by transferring home after a year and then having a bogus sexual harassment claim - they dropped you like you were hot. IMHO, employers allow things like that training issue to exist for circumstances exactly like yours. It allows them to terminate a high risk employee at will and unfortunately, once there is a claim against someone, that person becomes damaged goods because of the risks involved with appearing to have ignored a previous situation in the future. It's not right but it is reality.
The bottom line is this - things will never go back to the way they were. You will never be as comfortable as you were with large house/car/debt payments all at once. You will never trust in the same way again. You will always want and need more of a Plan B, C, D etc. part of that is the tempering of life as you enter your 30's and part of it is your particular life experience. life how on and you will heal but you will never be that trusting again, nor should you.
i can see why both you and your wife are uncomfortable with the changes you going through. Up until the last year or so, everything has gone fairly well in your lives. You fell,in love young, got your educations, married, built careers, created a home, etc - the American Dream personified. Then came the issue of infertility which was the first real hurdle in life which was not your fault and which that the two you personally could do nothing to fix. Next came sudden unemployment and with it, once again, you are face to face with the unfairness of life.
All I can say is to hang in there and keep in keeping on. In spite of the unfairness, life is good.
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Post by geenamercile on Feb 8, 2016 6:00:44 GMT -5
My wife and I had a slight disagreement today! She thinks I am depressed and I need to see a therapist because I am not excited about my new job or salary, and how many people across the country would love to have my salary or how she would like to have that salary. I am grateful for the job, I thank God every day and I know I am lucky. But like I posted before, for some reason the reaction that is expected of me "extreme happiness" is just not coming. I am still very excited that a good friend will start there with me (he is still on the fence) but that is it. Maybe it was the roller coaster I was on the 2 weeks before I was offered the job, I don't know. I know I am not depressed, but I am not reacting normally to the job offer. Or is it maybe because I still haven't received a formal offer letter.. I don't know. But like I told my wife : I will fake it till it once I start the job, I am good at that, I will the happiest employee they've ever had. Just need to figure out all the shit going through my brains.. I'm kind of wondering why you are suppose to be super happy. If life is a roller coast metaphor, you were on the top of a hill with your old job, went down real fast and now you are going back up. I'm not sure you are at a point where you are above where the top of your previous hill was. In other words how are you so much better with the new job, then you were a month and half ago with the old job. In some ways you are just back to that point again, and as others have pointed out you lost some of the rose coloring on your glasses. It isn't the same as when you move from one job, to a better job by choice and you have that feeling of moving up, right now I think you are just feeling like you have regained some of what your lost.
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Post by geenamercile on Feb 8, 2016 6:04:58 GMT -5
Drama- I would hope the part time job might move into something more too. But good luck with your DH and interviews. I'm glad he found another way in with the Dairy. Hopefully he can spin not taking the interview with a, I had a really strong offer and wanted to give you all the professional respect of not wasting your time, but once started realized it wasn't going to work personally (if the dairy has different hours I would use that originally one set of hours were dangled and then changed as my reason and leave it at that. I know that wasn't the only reason he quit but that is the reason I would go with if asked and leave it at that) and I'm really excited to be interviewing with you again.
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Post by kjto1 on Feb 8, 2016 7:36:21 GMT -5
Carl - your reaction makes perfect sense to me. This job loss has shown you how fragile everything in life is - how easily you can lose your job through no real fault of your own. Yes, you were able to hustle and get another job lined up ASAP which is due to not only your intrinsic abilities but luck also has a lot to do with it. Unfortunately, or even fortunately, you will never go back to those naive days of thinking if you show up and do your best, all will be right with you and yours in your world. Yes, you were promoted quickly at your last job but you worked hard and gave it your all. Yet when things became a bit tarnished - by transferring home after a year and then having a bogus sexual harassment claim - they dropped you like you were hot. IMHO, employers allow things like that training issue to exist for circumstances exactly like yours. It allows them to terminate a high risk employee at will and unfortunately, once there is a claim against someone, that person becomes damaged goods because of the risks involved with appearing to have ignored a previous situation in the future. It's not right but it is reality. The bottom line is this - things will never go back to the way they were. You will never be as comfortable as you were with large house/car/debt payments all at once. You will never trust in the same way again. You will always want and need more of a Plan B, C, D etc. part of that is the tempering of life as you enter your 30's and part of it is your particular life experience. life how on and you will heal but you will never be that trusting again, nor should you.
i can see why both you and your wife are uncomfortable with the changes you going through. Up until the last year or so, everything has gone fairly well in your lives. You fell,in love young, got your educations, married, built careers, created a home, etc - the American Dream personified. Then came the issue of infertility which was the first real hurdle in life which was not your fault and which that the two you personally could do nothing to fix. Next came sudden unemployment and with it, once again, you are face to face with the unfairness of life. All I can say is to hang in there and keep in keeping on. In spite of the unfairness, life is good. Follow your gut on whether you think you are depressed or not. And being depressed for the short term is normal - and with the situation you just went through, I think it is normal. I really believe that what I bolded in Works4Sarah's post is true. And I hope it is true - so that you double think before purchases/remodeling/spending. (Actually, I really liked Works4Sarah's whole post.) And, it is a let down, that you weren't able to find your new job on your terms, but needing to take the first decent gig because of the situation you were thrown into.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 8, 2016 9:16:41 GMT -5
I can't help thinking with his QA background the HyVee job has the potential to turn into something more. DH said he hadn't thought of it that way. He said that is a good point. He'll certainly look into inquiring about full time positions/networking. We figure that everyone in Omaha knows OS' reputation. When you got bills to pay you can't really sit around dithering about a job offer. Unfortunately for DH the reputation OS has didn't line up with what he experienced and he needs to find a better fit. It's the same spin I put on why I was looking to jump ship from BT. They are world renowned in some research areas, unfortunately I wasn't hired in any of those. Pay is a no brainer reason, the dairy pays a lot more. He can also say he's not an early morning person, it was made clear to him he wasn't going to be given his preferred shift at OS. If given a choice he'd much prefer working night hours (which is what this job will be) over 4:30 am. Carl you just went thru a major upheaval in your life. A company you busted your ass for railroaded you and on top of that tried to charge you with sexual harassment. Now here you are having to start over again from square one with an entirely different company and new people. There are a lot of unknowns and I also wouldn't blame you if you are a tad paranoid. Being terminated does a number on your psyche. Being and then leaving a toxic environment does a number on your psyche. It's not something you can shake off overnight. How long did you work for your old company again? Two weeks is hardly enough time to have fully processed what happened and move on. BTDT. I lost my job of five years and was out of work. Before I had any time to process that I was launched into the toxic environment at BT. Then before I had a chance to process any of that I landed my position here. Then before I could get settled here DH lost his job. I've been wound tighter than a two cent watch for over a year. It's not that I wasn't happy to get the BT job at first. It's not that I am unhappy here. It's not that I was unhappy when Dh got the OS job. It's that I haven't had a chance to sit down and process everything. I am not someone who can just "snap out of it" and pretend like it never happened. I'm settling in here now but it's taken me three months to start to feel comfortable working with and trusting people again. My confidence still isn't near at the level it was before January 2015. It'll get there but it's not going to happen overnight and screw people who think they know how I should feel.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 8, 2016 9:35:46 GMT -5
My wife and I had a slight disagreement today! She thinks I am depressed and I need to see a therapist because I am not excited about my new job or salary, and how many people across the country would love to have my salary or how she would like to have that salary. I am grateful for the job, I thank God every day and I know I am lucky. But like I posted before, for some reason the reaction that is expected of me "extreme happiness" is just not coming. I am still very excited that a good friend will start there with me (he is still on the fence) but that is it. Maybe it was the roller coaster I was on the 2 weeks before I was offered the job, I don't know. I know I am not depressed, but I am not reacting normally to the job offer. Or is it maybe because I still haven't received a formal offer letter.. I don't know. But like I told my wife : I will fake it till it once I start the job, I am good at that, I will the happiest employee they've ever had. Just need to figure out all the shit going through my brains.. Sounds normal to me. You're cautiously optimistic, for lack of a better phrase. I've said this before - you're not one to lie about your emotions. You could not plaster on the happy face when happy was not there. And you cannot do the happy dance when you cannot find that feeling in your feet. Your American Dream is still alive. But the look of it has altered somewhat. That's not a bad thing. It means you can adapt to change in the future (it will likely not be the last time you or Mrs. C. are looking for work) and can roll with the proverbial punches. After all, having kids means you never stop anticipating what's next, right? So if you can handle this and keep your equilibrium, you've at least gained a bit of practice for the day when the doctor yells out, "IT'S A RUGRAT ANKLE BITER BABY!"
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Post by shanendoah on Feb 8, 2016 11:12:12 GMT -5
TheHaitian - It is possible you are depressed, but it's also not a big deal. Situational depression is something that most adults experience at least once (and often multiple times) throughout their lives. Most do not need therapy for it. Unless it gets to the point where it impacts your ability to live your life (and simply not being through the roof excited about the new job is not impactful) then you just move through it and it will end. The other thing to remember is that you are coming down off a "high" - you've been running on fear and adrenaline for the last few weeks, and now you don't need that adrenaline anymore and it's wearing off, and you have the "shakes" - even if you don't need it for a good reason, you're still coming down. So stop worrying about whether or not you're excited about the job. Print out some of our responses and show them to your wife, so she can understand that you don't need therapy just because you're not over the moon about a salary she would be over the moon for. (Remember, you're in completely different industries with different standards in pay and also what determines success.) Let yourself come down and just "be". You two have enough going on in your lives right now that stressing over whether or not you are happy enough about something is just stress for stress's sake, and that's stupid.
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Post by chen35 on Feb 8, 2016 13:34:48 GMT -5
My wife and I had a slight disagreement today! She thinks I am depressed and I need to see a therapist because I am not excited about my new job or salary, and how many people across the country would love to have my salary or how she would like to have that salary. I am grateful for the job, I thank God every day and I know I am lucky. But like I posted before, for some reason the reaction that is expected of me "extreme happiness" is just not coming. I am still very excited that a good friend will start there with me (he is still on the fence) but that is it. Maybe it was the roller coaster I was on the 2 weeks before I was offered the job, I don't know. I know I am not depressed, but I am not reacting normally to the job offer. Or is it maybe because I still haven't received a formal offer letter.. I don't know. But like I told my wife : I will fake it till it once I start the job, I am good at that, I will the happiest employee they've ever had. Just need to figure out all the shit going through my brains.. You two have been through a lot over the last few years. Therapy couldn't hurt. JMHO.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 8, 2016 14:05:30 GMT -5
I don't think it matters, not sure...
But one of my old bosses and mentors texted me that he got a weird call from my former District Manager. He called him to tell him he heard I accepted in offer with Shaw's.
My old boss was taken by surprised and said: I am not sure but I think so (I used him as a reference so he is aware of the companies I have applied for).
He told him he was happy for me and happy that I was able to land back on my feet quickly like he knew I would. My old boss said it was a weird call because he sounded genuinely happy for me... WTF?
so my old boss called my friend that is also planning on leaving and told him. Because while he told him he knew about me, he did not mention the other guy and we are a close knit of 3.
I am slightly surprised and also not surprised that he knows because it is a small Community and everyone has worked for everyone at some point or another ; and I would not be surprised if someone from the company called and told him.
Per the urgency of his voice my old boss believed he found out today right before he told him; around noon.
Not sure if I should be concerned or not (the whole being black balled thing - I filed the complaint with the commission etc).
Anyway I signed the offer letter and faxed it back with a start date of 02.15.16
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Post by Peace77 on Feb 8, 2016 14:15:02 GMT -5
That's great Carl! (that you got your offer letter in and have a start date)
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 8, 2016 14:25:11 GMT -5
I'm going to one of the jobs I applied for to meet with the big boss. I'll be sure to let you guys know how it went.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Feb 8, 2016 15:46:25 GMT -5
I don't think it matters, not sure... But one of my old bosses and mentors texted me that he got a weird call from my former District Manager. He called him to tell him he heard I accepted in offer with Shaw's. My old boss was taken by surprised and said: I am not sure but I think so (I used him as a reference so he is aware of the companies I have applied for). He told him he was happy for me and happy that I was able to land back on my feet quickly like he knew I would. My old boss said it was a weird call because he sounded genuinely happy for me... WTF? so my old boss called my friend that is also planning on leaving and told him. Because while he told him he knew about me, he did not mention the other guy and we are a close knit of 3. I am slightly surprised and also not surprised that he knows because it is a small Community and everyone has worked for everyone at some point or another ; and I would not be surprised if someone from the company called and told him. Per the urgency of his voice my old boss believed he found out today right before he told him; around noon. Not sure if I should be concerned or not (the whole being black balled thing - I filed the complaint with the commission etc). Anyway I signed the offer letter and faxed it back with a start date of 02.15.16 I don't know all of the details, but I suspect the DM was probably worried you'd sue for wrongful termination or discrimination or some such thing. The fact that you got a comparable job so quickly means a)you weren't harmed too badly by PC's actions and b)you mitigated your damages. So, yes, he is thrilled. Thrilled he is off the hook.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 8, 2016 15:48:04 GMT -5
I don't think it matters, not sure... But one of my old bosses and mentors texted me that he got a weird call from my former District Manager. He called him to tell him he heard I accepted in offer with Shaw's. My old boss was taken by surprised and said: I am not sure but I think so (I used him as a reference so he is aware of the companies I have applied for). He told him he was happy for me and happy that I was able to land back on my feet quickly like he knew I would. My old boss said it was a weird call because he sounded genuinely happy for me... WTF? so my old boss called my friend that is also planning on leaving and told him. Because while he told him he knew about me, he did not mention the other guy and we are a close knit of 3. I am slightly surprised and also not surprised that he knows because it is a small Community and everyone has worked for everyone at some point or another ; and I would not be surprised if someone from the company called and told him. Per the urgency of his voice my old boss believed he found out today right before he told him; around noon. Not sure if I should be concerned or not (the whole being black balled thing - I filed the complaint with the commission etc). Anyway I signed the offer letter and faxed it back with a start date of 02.15.16 I don't know all of the details, but I suspect the DM was probably worried you'd sue for wrongful termination or discrimination or some such thing. The fact that you got a comparable job so quickly means a)you weren't harmed too badly by PC's actions and b)you mitigated your damages. So, yes, he is thrilled. Thrilled he is off the hook. Or he genuinely liked Cawaii and is happy he landed on his feet so fast. Somehow I think cawaii is a very likleable guy in real life.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Feb 8, 2016 15:50:10 GMT -5
I don't know all of the details, but I suspect the DM was probably worried you'd sue for wrongful termination or discrimination or some such thing. The fact that you got a comparable job so quickly means a)you weren't harmed too badly by PC's actions and b)you mitigated your damages. So, yes, he is thrilled. Thrilled he is off the hook. Or he generally liked Cawaii and is happy he landed on his feet so fast. Somehow I think cawaii is a very likleable guy in real life. I do as well. But, I thought this was the guy who was making Carl's life miserable over the past 6 months or so...I could be wrong...
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 8, 2016 15:50:51 GMT -5
Or he generally liked Cawaii and is happy he landed on his feet so fast. Somehow I think cawaii is a very likleable guy in real life. I do as well. But, I thought this was the guy who was making Carl's life miserable over the past 6 months or so...I could be wrong... could be. I can't keep track. even so, that may have been just business.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Feb 8, 2016 15:53:38 GMT -5
I do as well. But, I thought this was the guy who was making Carl's life miserable over the past 6 months or so...I could be wrong... could be. I can't keep track. even so, that may have been just business. It's like you're not even paying attention. What on earth could be more important than the boards??
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 8, 2016 15:54:55 GMT -5
could be. I can't keep track. even so, that may have been just business. It's like you're not even paying attention. What on earth could be more important than the boards?? mea cupla, mea culpa, mea culpa
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