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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 15, 2011 10:19:21 GMT -5
WASHINGTON — Call it an above-the-fray strategy. Other political news of note With another short-term budget bill on horizon, patience dwindles By week’s end, Congress is expected to (again) re-up funding for the federal government to (again) avert a government shutdown … for another three weeks. Obama's team seeks new ways to fire up base US general: Taliban's military momentum stalls On high-profile issues, Obama keeps a low profile Barbour aide leaves over 'dark humor' e-mail . . On hot issues that Democrats and Republicans have found cause to fret about — from spending reductions to state labor disputes — President Barack Obama is keeping a low profile. Democrats such as Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia want him more publicly engaged in budget negotiations in Congress; some lawmakers want him to denounce Republican proposed program cuts. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., and others in the party want him to go to Wisconsin to stand in solidarity with public unions fighting to retain their bargaining rights. Some lawmakers in both parties want him to take a greater lead against Libya's Moammar Gadhafi. They want him leading the country; they don't want him serving as a cable commentator for the issue of the day," he said. President on budget: Congress' domain www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42070631/ns/politics-white_house/
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 15, 2011 10:22:54 GMT -5
"What I've done is, every day I talk to my team," the president said, responding directly to criticism that he has been absent from the debate. "I give them instructions in terms of how they can participate in the negotiations, indicate what's acceptable, indicate what's not acceptable."On high-profile issues, Obama keeps a low profile = AWOL
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 15, 2011 10:35:15 GMT -5
WASHINGTON — Call it an above-the-fray strategy. Other political news of note With another short-term budget bill on horizon, patience dwindles By week’s end, Congress is expected to (again) re-up funding for the federal government to (again) avert a government shutdown … for another three weeks. Obama's team seeks new ways to fire up base US general: Taliban's military momentum stalls On high-profile issues, Obama keeps a low profile Barbour aide leaves over 'dark humor' e-mail . . On hot issues that Democrats and Republicans have found cause to fret about — from spending reductions to state labor disputes — President Barrack Obama is keeping a low profile. Democrats such as Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia want him more publicly engaged in budget negotiations in Congress; some lawmakers want him to denounce Republican proposed program cuts. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., and others in the party want him to go to Wisconsin to stand in solidarity with public unions fighting to retain their bargaining rights. Some lawmakers in both parties want him to take a greater lead against Libya's Moammar Gadhafi. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42070631/ns/politics-white_house/I think on the budget extension , he has asked for a three week extension....both sides to keep working at it. Possible not till they have had it semi worked out and if at a impasse, then steps in, and gets involved. I can understand that. Once he is involved and at a impasse, then where do you go? No where. I would hold off the criticism for a while as to when and how deep to get involved, both sides have a lot of bashing of each other to get over as they work toward a solution, President, for me, let the underlings do the bashing. As far as denouncing...for what reason, for Democrats they are kind of stupid on this idea, President is smarter, I hope , then to get into that. Time later if necessary if at a impasse, They aren't there yet, hopefully they won't be. Going to WI, why, he has said what he has to say. Possible, in fact definitely, when the campaigning for 2012, sure, it's a issue. Now it's been settled, for a while yet. Gadafi, till other countries join in , NATO, they will never get action UN, China, Russia will veto, with now the OK with the Arab League, but to do it with out a consensus, Europe, Arab nations, even if we did 70 % of the flying and implementation of what they say, he is doing all he can. IMHO ;D
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 15, 2011 10:41:05 GMT -5
Republicans predict Obama will easily exceed the record $750 million he raised for the 2008 race, even without a competitive Democratic primary. When it comes to energizing the Democratic base and turning out the vote, however, Obama will sorely miss one person: George W. Bush. His unpopularity helped cripple GOP nominee John McCain's efforts to overtake Obama in 2008. A few days before the election, Bush's disapproval rating hit a record 70 percent in the Pew Research Center survey. A declining number of likely voters, meanwhile, felt McCain would take the country in a different direction. Whatever problems the eventual 2012 Republican nominee may have, Bush will be a distant memory. Obama will have to find a new punching bag, and new incentives, to fire up his base. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42087827/ns/politics-decision_2012/#
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 15, 2011 13:02:03 GMT -5
Gee P.I., you sound like you expected something different this time. Obama only leaps to action on national hot-button issues like a belligerent Harvard Professor getting arrested by a Cambridge police officer.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 15, 2011 13:06:51 GMT -5
Gee P.I., you sound like you expected something different this time. Obama only leaps to action on national hot-button issues like a belligerent Harvard Professor getting arrested by a Cambridge police officer.Don't forget Obama got a briefing from the Pentagon on how Pfc Manning is being treated in the USMC Brig at Quantico, VA......Pfc Manning thinks the Marine Guards don't like him and are being mean to him... Or he may be practicing to say something on Thursday 17 March for all of us of the Irish heritage...
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 15, 2011 13:36:00 GMT -5
Or he may be practicing to say something on Thursday 17 March for all of us of the Irish heritage... Now that's damned important business there. Everybody wants to be Irish on St. Paddy's Day!!
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 15, 2011 13:46:06 GMT -5
Or he may be practicing to say something on Thursday 17 March for all of us of the Irish heritage... Now that's damned important business there. Everybody wants to be Irish on St. Paddy's Day!! I knew some who don't want to be Irish on Thursday but BTW we don't want them either..
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 15, 2011 14:04:29 GMT -5
Now that's damned important business there. Everybody wants to be Irish on St. Paddy's Day!! I knew some who don't want to be Irish on Thursday but BTW we don't want them either.. I'll drink to that
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Mar 15, 2011 14:51:10 GMT -5
...what's green and sits outside all day?
(pati 'o furniture) ;D
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 28, 2011 11:38:27 GMT -5
Re: Where's Presidential Leadership By Obama?
Simple answer there is none IMHO but will we see Obama's leadership displayed tonight when he gives us an update on the Libyan Conflict aka Odyssey Dawn?? Don't hold your breath and I will pass on watching that ambiguous TelePrompTer reading and be tuned into Versus watching Chicago vs Detroit hockey game..
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 28, 2011 13:00:44 GMT -5
Gee P.I., you sound like you expected something different this time. Obama only leaps to action on national hot-button issues like a belligerent Harvard Professor getting arrested by a Cambridge police officer. And to quote a fellow poster here, Obama did achieve the major coup of taking down Big Yogurt, something we really needed during these trying times of economic and political strife...
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 28, 2011 13:57:00 GMT -5
And to quote a fellow poster here, Obama did achieve the major coup of taking down Big Yogurt, something we really needed during these trying times of economic and political strife...
You are absolutely correct Ed, ,my bad for forgetting that accomplishment by Obama...tough to stay up to date with what he is doing these days since all the news out here is about Libya, Japan and Barry Bonds...nothing much about Obama except he missed the brackets this year.
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 28, 2011 14:09:15 GMT -5
And to quote a fellow poster here, Obama did achieve the major coup of taking down Big Yogurt, something we really needed during these trying times of economic and political strife... You are absolutely correct Ed, ,my bad for forgetting that accomplishment by Obama...tough to stay up to date with what he is doing these days since all the news out here is about Libya, Japan and Barry Bonds...nothing much about Obama except he missed the brackets this year. Well, don't expect much in the way of leadership from Barry since the golfing weather is getting better and the Final Four is on...
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 28, 2011 14:19:57 GMT -5
Well, don't expect much in the way of leadership from Barry since the golfing weather is getting better and the Final Four is on...
The other Barry is NOT doing too well either his name is Bonds, Barry Bonds and was definitely shaken and stirred today as his ex girl friend testified about his drug use ...my guess her name was crossed off his little black book..
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 28, 2011 14:30:00 GMT -5
So I guess some here are saying Obama sucks because I....yadda, yadda ?? Ok, just checking to see if anything is new.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 28, 2011 15:18:08 GMT -5
Reuters) - Only 17 percent of Americans see President Barack Obama as a strong and decisive military leader, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll taken after the United States and its allies began bombing Libya. Nearly half of those polled view Obama as a cautious and consultative commander-in-chief and more than a third see him as indecisive in military matters. Obama was widely criticized in 2009 for his months-long consultations with senior aides and military chiefs on whether to send more troops to Afghanistan. Critics called it dithering, but he said such a big decision required careful deliberation. He eventually dispatched 30,000 more troops Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama is struggling to fashion a coherent Middle East policy that can span the launching of military action in Libya and a hesitant response to repression elsewhere. It has not been easy to strike a balance between pragmatism and principle, with diverging U.S. national interests at stake in each conflict and an overworked Middle East policy team absorbed with crisis management. "On a senior level there is a serious challenge on how to navigate all of this," said Brian Katulis, a Middle East expert at the Center for American Progress. "They are doing the best that they can, but even folks in the White House and the National Security Council only have 24 hours in a day." Stung by accusations that it has sent mixed messages on Middle East events, the White House has said it is putting together a new, overarching strategy that will set out basic principles of U.S. policy toward the region www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/24/us-libya-usa-poll-idUSTRE72N1JN20110324
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 28, 2011 15:29:44 GMT -5
So I guess some here are saying Obama sucks because I....yadda, yadda ?? Ok, just checking to see if anything is new. No, nothing is new, Obama still sucks...
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 28, 2011 15:30:22 GMT -5
And yet the policy seems to be working. I'll take a deliberative manner over the shoot first think later style of GW that got us ensnared in Iraq, and almost lost Afghanistan, for that matter.
You are probably correct Demi but you must admit only 17% are with Obama is a concern by the Administration...he is deliberate but I think runs into trouble when he tries to sell his foreign policies to the country...so let's give him the benefit of the doubt and see how he does on TV tonight...or you can recap it for us tomorrow AM in case some of old timers doze off or forget our Geritol and Danon Yogurt deserts..
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Mar 28, 2011 15:32:36 GMT -5
It's called being presidential, not the Red Neck Cowboy pubs seem to want. Calm, cool, watching developments, not being a slave to or even paying attention to Fox 24/7 vomit. And Libya is NOT illegal duh, and is working PERFECTLY. The convolutions the Pub/Fox/Rev. Moon dupes go through to biotch NO MATTER WHAT....what a disaster for the country this Murdoch/Moon foreign propaganda is. Pffffft!!
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 28, 2011 15:42:22 GMT -5
It's called being presidential, not the Red Neck Cowboy pubs seem to want. Calm, cool, watching developments, not being a slave to or even paying attention to Fox 24/7 vomit. And Libya is NOT illegal duh, and is working PERFECTLY. The convolutions the Pub/Fox/Rev. Moon dupes go through to biotch NO MATTER WHAT....what a disaster for the country this Murdoch/Moon foreign propaganda is. Pffffft!!
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 28, 2011 15:45:50 GMT -5
No, nothing is new, Obama still sucks...[/quote][/color]
C'mon now Ed you know Obama has a lot on his plate these days. Didn't you know as a reformed heavy smoker his appetite has grown considerably and is eating lots of pasta and yogurt while watching the teams who made it to the final four and he is getting his arm in shape to throw out a baseball on opening day ..he wants to get it over the plate and look as good as George W. Bush when tossing a baseball...too bad he isn't into hockey and then he would have something in common with DMBIII and yours truly..
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 28, 2011 15:48:09 GMT -5
I know, that's true. It's golf season AND Final Four, we should know not to bother Barry with running the country until these things are out of the way...on the other hand, he is looking pretty slim these days, I wonder if he is back on cocaine again?
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 28, 2011 16:41:47 GMT -5
"I wonder if he is back on cocaine again? " ?? Link please, thanks
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Mar 28, 2011 16:53:41 GMT -5
My, isn't that disingenuous? Or do you have a link that specifically states 17% of "people are with Obama?" Let's see, even this website: "Warmonger Obama’s Libya war has lowest approval of any military operation polled by Gallup in four decades" (http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2011/03/24/warmonger-obama%E2%80%99s-libya-war-has-lowest-approval-of-any-military-operation-polled-by-gallup-in-four-decades/) says "only 47% approve of this war." Thats 47, not 17, BTW. Oh, and www.factcheck.org/2010/01/president-obamas-vacation-days/Q: Has President Obama taken more vacation time than his predecessors? A: According to one count, Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush spent more time on "vacation" during their first year than President Obama did. Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton spent less time on "vacation." I see a couple of posters are still buttsore over their heroes being the king and prince of vacationing Presidents. Just an FYI, nobody's forgotten who took all those vacations and situations like this just showcase your partisian hypocrisy and sour grapitude.
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Post by henryclay on Mar 28, 2011 17:30:01 GMT -5
"............."I wonder if he is back on cocaine again? " ?? Link please, thanks ........." I gather from that comment there are still people who won't admit he has already told about his, , , (some of his), , , cocaine use. . I did a google search and got over half a million hits on it. Here's one. "......... The Washington Post raises the pre-emptive question of the senator's direct confession (in his intimate memoir, "Dreams of My Father") that he used cocaine and marijuana in high school and college. ......" abcnews.go.com/Politics/BothSidesAllSides/story?id=2773754&page=1
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 28, 2011 19:05:15 GMT -5
"............."I wonder if he is back on cocaine again? " ?? Link please, thanks ........." I gather from that comment there are still people who won't admit he has already told about his, , , (some of his), , , cocaine use. . I did a goggle search and got over half a million hits on it. Here's one. "......... The Washington Post raises the pre-eruptive question of the senator's direct confession (in his intimate memoir, "Dreams of My Father") that he used cocaine and marijuana in high school and college. ......" abcnews.go.com/Politics/BothSidesAllSides/story?id=2773754&page=1Ok so he is a man of the world, me too..definitly in my time, not any more , not for years, but I wonder if it's the cost, a neighbor told me the price , is a occasional user hell she is in her 60's, knows what she is doing, I would never pay it, use to get a oz for $35-, that I could afford, and snorted some lines once, only thing I remember of it was , no high, butt he worst post nasal drip I ever had in my life , though cleared my nostrils, smell very intense for a while. At least he didn't say he didn't inhale with the dope, I like a honest man.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 28, 2011 20:11:45 GMT -5
My, isn't that disingenuous? Or do you have a link that specifically states 17% of "people are with Obama?" Reuters) - Only 17 percent of Americans see President Barack Obama as a strong and decisive military leader, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll taken after the United States and its allies began bombing Libya. www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/24/us-libya-usa-poll-idUSTRE72N1JN20110324I see a couple of posters are still buttsore over their heroes being the king and prince of vacationing Presidents. Just an FYI, nobody's forgotten who took all those vacations and situations like this just showcase your partisian hypocrisy and sour grapitude. Who are these couple of posters Ma'am..care to give us names. Are they the same ones you called @#^&*% or &*^% coming out their *&%*?? So we can respond to all of your pathetic vile and gutter talk.. And your link is dated January 2010 Ma'am in case you missed it this is 2011... President Obama’s Vacation Days
January 11, 2010And FYI the subject of this thread is "Where's Presidential Leadership by Obama"
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Post by workpublic on Mar 28, 2011 20:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by verrip1 on Mar 28, 2011 20:19:48 GMT -5
Wow, dez. If I'd have know you could get $35 an ounce blow, I'd have become your friend long ago.
Well, actually, I don't do any drugs anymore. Even pot. I had to stop when I did too many lines one night and had to go in for sinus surgery.
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