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Post by Ombud on Oct 14, 2015 13:39:06 GMT -5
Actually I used to work getting them on it for health services. So you've got an aged immigrant without any English. Easy grant To let you know how easily abused, had someone get off the plane from Lebanon, straight to hospital for minor procedure, granted 2 months later & you paid for it
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 14, 2015 13:48:17 GMT -5
Actually I used to work getting them on it for health services. So you've got an aged immigrant without any English. Easy grant To let you know how easily abused, had someone get off the plane from Lebanon, straight to hospital for minor procedure, granted 2 months later & you paid for it How did they get into the country in the first place? And don't they have to be a resident alien, at least?
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Post by dannylion on Oct 14, 2015 13:56:42 GMT -5
Actually I used to work getting them on it for health services. So you've got an aged immigrant without any English. Easy grant To let you know how easily abused, had someone get off the plane from Lebanon, straight to hospital for minor procedure, granted 2 months later & you paid for it How did they get into the country in the first place? And don't they have to be a resident alien, at least? Probably on the coattails of younger family members. Also, 25 years ago, if you were a certain cohort of immigrant from the FSU, the red carpet was out for you.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Oct 14, 2015 13:59:08 GMT -5
Did he seek asylum? Do we give SS to folks granted asylum?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 14, 2015 14:01:07 GMT -5
it's not like we're ever going to know. Loony is not noted for giving updates when something is over.
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Post by The Captain on Oct 14, 2015 14:02:24 GMT -5
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Ombud
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Post by Ombud on Oct 14, 2015 14:10:10 GMT -5
Actually I used to work getting them on it for health services. So you've got an aged immigrant without any English. Easy grant To let you know how easily abused, had someone get off the plane from Lebanon, straight to hospital for minor procedure, granted 2 months later & you paid for it How did they get into the country in the first place? And don't they have to be a resident alien, at least? Airplane to SFO. They don't come by boat. Visitors visa from a country they view as hostily. "Intent to reside" once here.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Oct 14, 2015 14:16:05 GMT -5
Actually I used to work getting them on it for health services. So you've got an aged immigrant without any English. Easy grant To let you know how easily abused, had someone get off the plane from Lebanon, straight to hospital for minor procedure, granted 2 months later & you paid for it So, is part of the reason you are so upset about this is because you helped this type of thing occur? Like a reformed smoker has the least sympathy for a smoker.
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Post by Ombud on Oct 14, 2015 14:17:27 GMT -5
No. I just hate fraud.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Oct 14, 2015 14:18:31 GMT -5
but you did help immagrants beat the system.
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Post by Ombud on Oct 14, 2015 14:19:45 GMT -5
Of course. Either on county dole or federal dole. Feds have deeper pockets
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Oct 14, 2015 14:20:51 GMT -5
Of course. Either on county dole or federal dole. Feds have deeper pockets I can see why you would be bitter. That is a hard cross to bear.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Oct 14, 2015 14:23:31 GMT -5
My friends in college who came to the US in the 80s with their parents from Soviet countries all got lucky through some sort of lottery. I was just thinking about how my one friend who would tell me crazy stories like how when he first came here he would take all of the ketchup packets from fast food restaurants because he could. He was 8ish and just excited to see that much ketchup. We started hanging out because at one point he was thinking about going to grad school and getting a PhD in biology (what I did), but instead he got one of those finance jobs. I bet he will pay more in taxes than I will earn this year.
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Post by Ombud on Oct 14, 2015 14:25:45 GMT -5
Of course. Either on county dole or federal dole. Feds have deeper pockets I can see why you would be bitter. That is a hard cross to bear. I'm not bitter. It's just fraud. Last I read fraud was still illegal. No value judgement. No degree of wrong attached.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Oct 14, 2015 14:27:30 GMT -5
I can see why you would be bitter. That is a hard cross to bear. I'm not bitter. It's just fraud. Last I read fraud was still illegal. No value judgement. No degree of wrong attached lots of things are illegal. Fraud is your thing. I get it.
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Post by tloonya on Oct 15, 2015 11:50:36 GMT -5
there are a lot of h8ers on here Nevermind them. If moderator can say 'you are rude as fuck' - what do you expect from anyone else? BTW DH came home with money and sending you kudos for making him a nervous wreck!
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Post by tloonya on Oct 15, 2015 12:00:44 GMT -5
There's a lot of jumping to conclusions here. Maybe they're correct conclusions, maybe not. Maybe I didn't read all her posts where she says something more. Loony seems to have a bit of a language barrier, so it's hard to get a story straight out of her. That's par for the course with people who don't speak the language that well. I quickly searched, and found that there is no asset test for subsidized housing, other than income generating assets. So, this guy could just be paranoid. So what? Not unusual for old people, in my experience, and really not unusual for someone from a country that may be more crooked than ours (and civil forfeiture seeming pretty damn crooked in ours as well). You know that all of my Russian clients are spending their foodstamps on food they don't need because they are afraid if there is $20 left - next month 'they' will take them away? And I had seen $2400 balance on other nationalities cards. Because NO ONE told them this crazy story! So paranoid indeed. And I am not really sure how pops got into the subsidized housing accept his wife was ill for years. He took care of her until her passing. How did he get any other gov help I don't know. Maybe because no one will employ 60 years old non English speaking foreigner? However he was saving and saved. The money he got from government for food or watevers. I am still thinking he is as paranoid as a lot of people here. So. Thanks for participation.
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Post by tloonya on Oct 15, 2015 12:01:57 GMT -5
25K in change. That's a lot to swallow! As are her stories! So swallow whatever you can and spit out the rest.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Oct 15, 2015 12:21:50 GMT -5
So now that you got the big bucks...what are you going to do with the money? Inquiring minds wanna know!
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Post by tloonya on Oct 15, 2015 12:25:27 GMT -5
So now that you got the big bucks...what are you going to do with the money? Inquiring minds wanna know! Definitely something illegal.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Oct 15, 2015 12:29:02 GMT -5
So now that you got the big bucks...what are you going to do with the money? Inquiring minds wanna know! Definitely something illegal. That's fine. But stash most of it for later. Just use a bit for that illegal fun, whatever it is.
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Post by tloonya on Oct 15, 2015 12:30:46 GMT -5
OK, I see that thread got you going.
Different scenario. Let's see what is illegal in this one.
My husband who worked in this country for 25 years were sending his father $100 per month so pop wouldn't eat from the food bank.
25 years later pops called son and asked to come over. When son came over pop said he saved all the money son sent him and now wants son to get it because he is 85 and might die soon.
What is wrong with this picture? Go wild. Please.
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Post by midjd on Oct 15, 2015 12:34:00 GMT -5
Is pop receiving need-based federal or state aid that is subject to an asset test?
If so, it's fraud.
If not, it's probably fine.
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Post by tloonya on Oct 15, 2015 12:34:58 GMT -5
Definitely something illegal. That's fine. But stash most of it for later. Just use a bit for that illegal fun, whatever it is. Only legal fun is cheap.
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Post by tloonya on Oct 15, 2015 12:40:53 GMT -5
Is pop receiving need-based federal or state aid that is subject to an asset test? If so, it's fraud. If not, it's probably fine. You are in a wrong thread. And yes pop received need based assistance. As all others in his 12 stories home.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 15, 2015 12:47:07 GMT -5
Is pop receiving need-based federal or state aid that is subject to an asset test? If so, it's fraud. If not, it's probably fine. You are in a wrong thread. And yes pop received need based assistance. As all others in his 12 stories home. How is it the wrong thread? You are just repeating the same scenario with different words. Have father give his son the $25,000 dollars cash. Son goes to a bank in father's local area and opens an account in the son's name and deposits the money. Son can then buy something worth $25,000 or not. Banks reports the deposit and son simply states he had saved loose change for many, many years. Let the Government prove otherwise.
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Post by tloonya on Oct 15, 2015 13:00:29 GMT -5
You are in a wrong thread. And yes pop received need based assistance. As all others in his 12 stories home. How is it the wrong thread? You are just repeating the same scenario with different words. Have father give his son the $25,000 dollars cash. Son goes to a bank in father's local area and opens an account in the son's name and deposits the money. Son can then buy something worth $25,000 or not. Banks reports the deposit and son simply states he had saved loose change for many, many years. Let the Government prove otherwise. So will Government prove otherwise? And WHY is it even supposed to be proven? How was 85 years old immigrant know that there will be an issues? He felt like a hero by saving his son's money for him.
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Post by souldoubt on Oct 15, 2015 13:11:00 GMT -5
If I go to another country whether to visit or live I'm supposed to follow the laws of that country. Claiming ignorance of the law isn't an excuse. Also I believe you said that 85 year old man has been here for 20+ years. This isn't jury duty where he can get out of it by saying he doesn't understand English well enough to be there.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 15, 2015 13:44:16 GMT -5
If it is your husband's money then why is your in law going to such great lengths to avoid the banks?
Just have DH open a bank account and have his father deposit the money.
Beats flying/walking around with $25k in cash and hoping nothing happens. If something happens good luck ever getting that money back.
If he does it by wire/bank transfer it ensures it all gets to your husband.
He's making it overly complicated and the more complicated you make it the more shit can go wrong. Keep it simple stupid.
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Post by Ombud on Oct 15, 2015 14:21:29 GMT -5
And yes pop received need based assistance It's fraud and he has a right to be worried. Won't get locked up but will lose his 'need based assistance' as there is no need. You are both intelligent and know that
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