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Post by mmhmm on Oct 13, 2015 19:24:57 GMT -5
dudes I am joking....you all are so serious..... ETA- hopefully no one thought my previous idea of eating the bills of cash and then digging them out of the poop later was a serious idea?? (I mean, everyone knows you have to put the cash in a deflated balloon first and then swallow the balloon....correct? ) I'm sorta known to get pretty serious when the ToS is broken, joe. It could cost us the boards. If ProBoards decides we've allowed their rules to be broken and done nothing about it they can close the forums own. Hence, my taking such things pretty seriously. As to your post about hate, I didn't know whether you were serious, or not, so I asked you to let me know where you'd seen it. That's not allowed here, either. Not everyone uses the Report function. Many just post their displeasure here on the forums. If someone is offended we don't want to just ignore that person. We might be able to help, or we might not, but we don't want to just ignore a possible problem.
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Post by joemilitary on Oct 13, 2015 19:30:17 GMT -5
Also, keep in mind this is loony.....IMO she is known to say crazy things that make no sense & stir up trouble....this could be another case of that
I still question whether she really has a "store" or not.....I still remember her idea / plan to let the buyers pay whatever they wanted for the stuff in her store.....
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 13, 2015 20:21:56 GMT -5
There's a lot of jumping to conclusions here. Maybe they're correct conclusions, maybe not. Maybe I didn't read all her posts where she says something more. Loony seems to have a bit of a language barrier, so it's hard to get a story straight out of her. That's par for the course with people who don't speak the language that well.
I quickly searched, and found that there is no asset test for subsidized housing, other than income generating assets. So, this guy could just be paranoid. So what? Not unusual for old people, in my experience, and really not unusual for someone from a country that may be more crooked than ours (and civil forfeiture seeming pretty damn crooked in ours as well).
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Post by Ombud on Oct 13, 2015 22:57:26 GMT -5
gets SS, living in subsidized home. Eating from a food bank. It is free food. All 3 of these are asset tested in CA ... 1 by the feds (SSI), 1 by the county / state (subsidized housing .... I know an elderly widow in subsidized housing & she has to submit bank stmts), 1 by the program but on an honor system (food bank). You must live in a more generous state, Lizard Queen I will continue giving to the food bank even if there are cheaters out there
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Oct 14, 2015 8:57:46 GMT -5
dudes I am joking....you all are so serious.....
ETA- hopefully no one thought my previous idea of eating the bills of cash and then digging them out of the poop later was a serious idea??
(I mean, everyone knows you have to put the cash in a condom "balloon" first and then swallow the balloon....correct? )
I've worked in a prison and a jail, and the answer to your question is no, everyone does not know about the condom balloon. Well, maybe they do, but they ignore it in a panicked attempted to hide stuff from the cops banging on the door and they just open wide and swallow. And yes, I have been around for a few "extractions." Mostly for drugs and jewelry, though.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Oct 14, 2015 9:53:36 GMT -5
dudes I am joking....you all are so serious.....
ETA- hopefully no one thought my previous idea of eating the bills of cash and then digging them out of the poop later was a serious idea??
(I mean, everyone knows you have to put the cash in a condom "balloon" first and then swallow the balloon....correct? )I
I was thinking he would need to convert it to coins before swallowing, but the condom idea sounds better.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 9:55:14 GMT -5
dudes I am joking....you all are so serious.....
ETA- hopefully no one thought my previous idea of eating the bills of cash and then digging them out of the poop later was a serious idea??
(I mean, everyone knows you have to put the cash in a condom "balloon" first and then swallow the balloon....correct? )I
I was thinking he would need to convert it to coins before swallowing, but the condom idea sounds better. 25K in change. That's a lot to swallow!
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Oct 14, 2015 9:56:06 GMT -5
I was thinking he would need to convert it to coins before swallowing, but the condom idea sounds better. 25K in change. That's a lot to swallow! I would get it all in pennies and then stick it up my ass.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Oct 14, 2015 10:03:00 GMT -5
I was thinking he would need to convert it to coins before swallowing, but the condom idea sounds better. 25K in change. That's a lot to swallow! It would probably set off the metal detectors too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 10:10:25 GMT -5
If you go the quarters route that's about 1250 pounds. Walking would be difficult, especially if you went the route Archie is suggesting.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Oct 14, 2015 10:10:43 GMT -5
If you go the quarters route that's about 1250 pounds. Walking would be difficult, especially if you went the route Archie is suggesting. I would do it one at a time, of course.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Oct 14, 2015 10:16:50 GMT -5
I know! Use the cash to buy a $25K rare coin, swallow the coin or put it up your butt, then get on the plane and enjoy the flight.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 14, 2015 10:20:33 GMT -5
I know! Use the cash to buy a $25K rare coin, swallow the coin or put it up your butt, then get on the plane and enjoy the flight. Or some kind of jewel.
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Post by Abby Normal on Oct 14, 2015 10:21:33 GMT -5
Here I was trying to give the guy credit for living on SS and managing his money so well that he had a nest egg to give his GD. Just thought he was paranoid about reporting. But now I tune back in to find out he's paranoid because he's scamming the system. Why am I continually disappointed in people?
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Oct 14, 2015 10:35:54 GMT -5
25K in change. That's a lot to swallow! I would get it all in pennies and then stick it up my ass. Not touching this....not touching any of this.....
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 14, 2015 10:38:52 GMT -5
Here I was trying to give the guy credit for living on SS and managing his money so well that he had a nest egg to give his GD. Just thought he was paranoid about reporting. But now I tune back in to find out he's paranoid because he's scamming the system. Why am I continually disappointed in people? Because we're all zombies!
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 14, 2015 11:37:43 GMT -5
gets SS, living in subsidized home. Eating from a food bank. It is free food. All 3 of these are asset tested in CA ... 1 by the feds (SSI), 1 by the county / state (subsidized housing .... I know an elderly widow in subsidized housing & she has to submit bank stmts), 1 by the program but on an honor system (food bank). You must live in a more generous state, Lizard Queen I will continue giving to the food bank even if there are cheaters out there She calls it SS, but you're saying it's SSI. You may very well be right, but there's no way to know for sure. Loony may not even know. We're getting 2nd-hand information with someone with not the best command of the language giving sketchy details. Yeah, it's shitty to take advantage of the food bank like that. That is probably where he was able to save the money from, adding up monthly over decades. However, I bet there's a lot of people taking advantage of the food bank with too high of a car payment, or getting their hair/nails done all of the time, or stuff like that. When you dig too deeply, you wonder about a lot of people and their priorities.
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Post by grumpyhermit on Oct 14, 2015 11:53:55 GMT -5
Here I was trying to give the guy credit for living on SS and managing his money so well that he had a nest egg to give his GD. Just thought he was paranoid about reporting. But now I tune back in to find out he's paranoid because he's scamming the system. Why am I continually disappointed in people? It rarely fails me - though sometimes even my expectations of how awful people can be aren't low enough.
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Post by Ombud on Oct 14, 2015 12:46:47 GMT -5
You don't get SSA unless you have 40 quarters. As pointed out by another poster, you don't get SSDI unless you've worked 50 quarters. So It Has To Be SSI = fraud! And she's not as dumb as you portray her!#!
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Post by obelisk on Oct 14, 2015 12:52:09 GMT -5
I am confused! What do quarters have to do with pennies?
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Oct 14, 2015 12:56:41 GMT -5
I was thinking he would need to convert it to coins before swallowing, but the condom idea sounds better. 25K in change. That's a lot to swallow! As are her stories!
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Oct 14, 2015 12:59:22 GMT -5
All 3 of these are asset tested in CA ... 1 by the feds (SSI), 1 by the county / state (subsidized housing .... I know an elderly widow in subsidized housing & she has to submit bank stmts), 1 by the program but on an honor system (food bank). You must live in a more generous state, Lizard Queen I will continue giving to the food bank even if there are cheaters out there She calls it SS, but you're saying it's SSI. You may very well be right, but there's no way to know for sure. Loony may not even know. We're getting 2nd-hand information with someone with not the best command of the language giving sketchy details. Yeah, it's shitty to take advantage of the food bank like that. That is probably where he was able to save the money from, adding up monthly over decades. However, I bet there's a lot of people taking advantage of the food bank with too high of a car payment, or getting their hair/nails done all of the time, or stuff like that. When you dig too deeply, you wonder about a lot of people and their priorities. It seems the most extreme cases of frugality combined with cash hoarding always seem to involve people from the former USSR, holocaust survivors and people who lived through the great depression. Someone who is eating from a food bank so he can hoard cash to give to his granddaughter isn't exactly being a good tax-paying citizen, but I don't think that is the main reason my taxes are so high.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 14, 2015 13:04:32 GMT -5
You don't get SSA unless you have 40 quarters. As pointed out by another poster, you don't get SSDI unless you've worked 50 quarters. So It Has To Be SSI = fraud! And she's not as dumb as you portray her!#! How do you know he didn't work 40 quarters? I know plenty of people who work through their 60's. Like I said, did I miss something that Loony said, or is it all conjecture? I'm not even sure she is for real. But a language barrier + cultural differences can explain a lot if she is. I have seen it my entire life. If you don't understand nuance in language, you can come off as rude. If you're caught up in cultural differences, you can come off as ignorant.
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Post by Ombud on Oct 14, 2015 13:08:13 GMT -5
She said he'd arrived at 60, collected SS for 25 yrs, is 85
When I add 60 + 25 = 85. All week long. Not to be snarky
I've done returns for Russians and see this all the time. A lot sharper than they portray themselves as being
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 14, 2015 13:11:26 GMT -5
I found it interesting today when we had a guest speaker who teaches history at a local university who said one of Lincoln's rationale for ending slavery was that it was inherently wrong for anyone to profit off another's sweat. Wonder how he'd view welfare in its many forms?
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Post by souldoubt on Oct 14, 2015 13:15:54 GMT -5
I don't think a lot of how she comes off has to do with nuance in the English language rather she just responds rudely to people at times. With her it's pretty formulaic - ask for advice then when people tell her what she doesn't want to hear and/or ask for more details to give said advice she starts responding rudely. Maybe she is trolling us but considering all the advice she's talked about giving out to other people (medical, legal, etc.) I always hear Benny Hill music playing while envisioning some woman in a nightgown who think she's the sage of her neighborhood. Full on blind leading the blind and at the very least it makes it funner reading these threads.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Oct 14, 2015 13:18:25 GMT -5
She said he'd arrived at 60, collected SS for 25 yrs, is 85 When I add 60 + 25 = 85. All week long. Not to be snarky I've done returns for Russians and see this all the time. A lot sharper than they portray themselves as being In her first post, TLoony does indeed mention he arrived in the US 25 years ago. So I have a question. On what basis is he collection Social Security for 25 years, if he arrived here at age 60? She does not mention the idea that he worked between arriving here and beginning SS. Which is why I though it had to be SSI or SSDI. Living in a subsidized home, and eating from a food bank. So the money he has saved - again, presuming he is not working - is money saved from SSI or SSDI. Isn't that like turning Uncle Sam into your own personal piggy bank?
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Post by Ombud on Oct 14, 2015 13:33:32 GMT -5
And aren't we that piggy bank? I don't want this to be a bash tloonya thread. It should be about the ethics of committing fraud, online help perpetuating it, ect
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 14, 2015 13:34:57 GMT -5
She said he'd arrived at 60, collected SS for 25 yrs, is 85 When I add 60 + 25 = 85. All week long. Not to be snarky I've done returns for Russians and see this all the time. A lot sharper than they portray themselves as being I know, but the government doesn't exactly throw the doors open for 60 year old immigrants, and hand them an SSI check upon arrival, KWIM? He would not collect anything without authorization to live here in the first place, then he would have to qualify somehow. Therefore, I believe he's been saving the money from SS, but it would be impossible for him to have saved it from day one of entering the country. The way I read what she said, he arrived in the country 25 years ago, and has been saving the $$ from his SS--not necessarily getting SS for all of the last 25 years. I could be wrong, and I could be missing something. All I know is that it isn't exactly easy to get permission to come live in the US from Eastern Europe. They did have some lotteries for green cards in the mid-to-late 90's that I know of. Not sure how that would affect eligibility for SSI...
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 14, 2015 13:37:02 GMT -5
I don't think a lot of how she comes off has to do with nuance in the English language rather she just responds rudely to people at times. With her it's pretty formulaic - ask for advice then when people tell her what she doesn't want to hear and/or ask for more details to give said advice she starts responding rudely. Maybe she is trolling us but considering all the advice she's talked about giving out to other people (medical, legal, etc.) I always hear Benny Hill music playing while envisioning some woman in a nightgown who think she's the sage of her neighborhood. Full on blind leading the blind and at the very least it makes it funner reading these threads. I find it f-in hilarious. Now, with Benny Hill music, it would be doubly so.
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