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Post by workpublic on Mar 14, 2011 15:08:11 GMT -5
They cannot be trusted to honor any agreements they make. is it a cultural thing?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 14, 2011 15:09:40 GMT -5
Krikitt, no I am just saying we should not be friends with a terrorist nation. I despise their tactics "Never again, unless we do it." Their atrocities against their neighbors are not justified. Their restraint against their neighbors is unjustified. They should retake Gaza and the Golan Heights-- they are well within their rights to do so. The land for peace deal where they voluntarily gave up the strategic and tactical advantage to their enemies has been broken too many times to count. I suspect Israel is merciful because they know they are just being baited into a fight with a weaker enemy that is going to scream of the injustice of it all if and when Israel ever really strikes back.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 14, 2011 15:28:53 GMT -5
dezi, You'd better be careful. Keep posting like that and people will start to think you are literate and have learned to use Spell Check. [It's ally not "allie"]. But, assuming that you wrote that all yourself and were not quoting, I'll give you an Exalt. [Those who don't understand the strategic value of Israel to US foreign policy are just really, really dense and won't understand no matter how completely and simply you explain it to them.] Appreciate that Safe, yes all by my lonesome, every now and then. ally/allie, OK will remember that, guess spell check missed it. As I said , I do have questions, possible a thread on them and sit back and get the ideas of posters as far as what I may be missing, since I don't think Natanahue has the time to answer me as to what he really is after here. Support for the country though , even with the questions, as strong ever and anyones. More so now especially since al jazeer did a recent poll in Europe, the UK, support of the Israelis vs Palastinians, and while the governments are giving the support in most cases to the State, according to the polls they did, lets say they are not fudging the returns, the Europeon populace are coming back in many ways different then their leaders and country's views toward the State, and being good politicians that they are, that does not bode well for the state as far as support of.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 14, 2011 15:38:47 GMT -5
Krikitt, no I am just saying we should not be friends with a terrorist nation. I despise their tactics "Never again, unless we do it." Their atrocities against their neighbors are not justified. Their restraint against their neighbors is unjustified. They should retake Gaza and the Golan Heights-- they are well within their rights to do so. The land for peace deal where they voluntarily gave up the strategic and tactical advantage to their enemies has been broken too many times to count. I suspect Israel is merciful because they know they are just being baited into a fight with a weaker enemy that is going to scream of the injustice of it all if and when Israel ever really strikes back. Palm , they still have the Golan, Gaza, there is some who feel that they could have gotten something back there rather then just moving out of the area unilaterally as they did, but don't think they would want to go back to what was,m especially after all the moving of the settlers that went on and their homes and businesses.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 14, 2011 15:40:14 GMT -5
They cannot be trusted to honor any agreements they make. is it a cultural thing? ooohhhh, I get a little " damn kikes " feeling here...am I mistaken?
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Post by Bluerobin on Mar 14, 2011 15:47:56 GMT -5
Krickitt, I am saying that without the 7' tall 350 pound big brother (the US), Israel might just have to learn to get along with their neighbors. Yes, I firmly believe this might happen if Palestine were equally armed. Israell is just a bully nation (terrorist) that does unspeakable things to their neighbors who are not as well armed. This is a regional problem, which does not concern us. It is time to let them fend for themselves and see what happens.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 14, 2011 19:50:22 GMT -5
Krickitt, I am saying that without the 7' tall 350 pound big brother (the US), Israel might just have to learn to get along with their neighbors. Yes, I firmly believe this might happen if Palestine were equally armed. Israell is just a bully nation (terrorist) that does unspeakable things to their neighbors who are not as well armed. This is a regional problem, which does not concern us. It is time to let them fend for themselves and see what happens. You do know that they have 200 plus little Nucs you know and it's been said, UK folks have been known to use this term, as others, they are , can be rather "stiff necked " in their dealings at times....
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Post by henryclay on Mar 14, 2011 20:35:05 GMT -5
A short video about the family. A dsughter was not home. She came right after it happened and found her family massacred. The video is raw. You may not want to see it. www.myisrael.org.il/action/739
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 14, 2011 21:02:41 GMT -5
A short video about the family. A dsughter was not home. She came right after it happened and found her family massacred. The video is raw. You may not want to see it. www.myisrael.org.il/action/739What can one say....
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 14, 2011 22:06:48 GMT -5
I don't know, but maybe the following.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 14, 2011 22:41:34 GMT -5
I don't know, but maybe the following. And we comments like that, and another earlier here by another, it just emphasizes the importance of Israel doing everything in their power to stay a home for Jews, a Jewish Stat, not a secular one, where every Jew in the world , if necessary would be welcome. With all their faults, and they have them, as do all peoples and Nations, ours included when dealing with others, if you would like a list of ours, ones in my service I saw and participated in , and the recent one in Afghanistan where 7 teens were killed, the 100's of thousands Iraqis who died, the babies who were lost due to our blockade, what ever the reason, , all nations , when on a mission, the same. In Israel, before the fence that is being built, how many families were blown apart , destroyed , as this one was destroyed, on buses, at passover dinners at hotels, during lunch time , dinner time, and people complain it is a disgrace for building it. "unspeakable things to their neighbors who are not as well armed.", If you want to discuss unspeakable things..PM, I can tell you about unspeakable things, "who are not as well armed.", do you think these things are ball games , one wants a fair playing field, and if they were so armed , you realize what the responses would be, no holds barred, a game this is not, and to make judgments if you have never been in country, there as patrols go out, things like this happen, and I see your actually excusing it, insinuating, " it's a bad thing however..." and you are making judgments on the latest sound bytes when you really have no clue.
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Post by Bluerobin on Mar 15, 2011 7:35:39 GMT -5
Dezi, if we didn't support this terrorist nation, and if their neighbors were equally armed, they would learn to get along. Our constant support of Israel has cost us a great deal in the region and worldwide. It is time for Israel to adjust and start being a good neighbor.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 15, 2011 8:07:07 GMT -5
Dezi, I am seeing a new side to you. A more almost, but not quite, Conservative side, but definitely a more open minded side. It is nice.
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Post by henryclay on Mar 15, 2011 9:51:27 GMT -5
"......... Dezi, I am seeing a new side to you......"
Shhhhhhh! Keep quiet doggone it! Let's enjoy it while it lasts.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 15, 2011 13:16:55 GMT -5
We don't often agree, but on this one-- we do. I am a supporter of www.ifcj.org International Fellowship of Christians and Jews (boy that name has to keep Louis Farakahn up at night) -- you might consider it.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 15, 2011 13:17:48 GMT -5
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 15, 2011 13:28:42 GMT -5
If we are so concerned about the Muslims here why did we let them in the country? This sure happened before Obama was president, so who did that? But once they are here and citizens then their religion is protected like any other. We likely have made a mistake letting them in but now its a bit late to shut the door. Europe is also finding that out. So do you change the laws to protect all religions but theirs?? That is not the issue from what little I know but rather our government law enforcement groups would like to see more co-operation with Muslims and Law Enforcement. There has been some of that recently but not enough to satisfy Congressman King and others who are pushing this issue for the Muslims to ferret out the radicals in their community...... Tough issue to deal with on all sides because of the Internet and links with Islamic Terrorists around the world.. I think it's been the same with Blacks not cooperating with police in many neighborhoods, same with Chinese Americans, the have their own Mafia type crime gangs, at one time called Tongs I believe and today just gangs of newly arrived young thugs who terrorize their communities , the Japanese crime families, and I am wondering the same with other Orientals and even the Latin areas.
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