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Post by NoNamePerson on Sept 20, 2015 16:20:31 GMT -5
Can you condense that down to two paragraphs for us old folks who might not have enough time left to read and comprehend all that. It doesn't take much for my eyes to glaze over and my mind to wander off into the wild blue yonder. Three words: They are nuts. Thanks. I knew you could do it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 16:23:26 GMT -5
So schools that host robotics clubs, have classes in circuit design, and have classrooms full of circuit boards in the friggin smart boards should encourage Americans to fear circuit boards? Was this such a school? Do other students routinely bring homemade circuit boards to this school? Is it normal behaviour or is it an exception? Was this kid a part of a robotics club where bringing an improvised circuit to school was ordinary and expected behaviour, or did he bring it in unexpectedly on a whim? Let me put it this way: if it were up to me, I'd probably allow students to bring homemade circuits into school freely. Having said this, i) I respect school divisions' rights to treat such devices as a threat, ii) requiring students to have permission from a staff member is hardly burdensome, iii) I have no doubt that if the son of a known political radical walked into the middle of a school with an IED and blew your kids to kingdom come, you'd be the red-faced parent on TV cursing the school board for letting it happen. You are too logical to rely on "If". Well not in this case, but usually you are.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 20, 2015 16:25:32 GMT -5
Considering he brought the clock to show his engineering teacher, yeah it sounds like this school probably offers some engineering classes. The school does have engineering classes. Plus the opening post mentions the engineering teacher. Some information about MacArthur High school in which the student attends: The ACE AcademyThe ACE Academy at MacArthur High School strives to provide opportunities for every MacArthur High School student to be a leader in the fields of Architecture, Construction, and Engineering. Our goal is to train, prepare, and certify students for further studies and careers in Architecture, Construction, and Engineering. From an introductory course in their first year, students can choose to advance in upper level classes in each field. From our first to third year of the ACE Academy, enrollment has grown significantly. We now have five teachers and 377 (February 2013) students enrolled in ACE Academy classes. Architecture PathwayThe ACE Academy is open to any student at MacArthur High School who wishes to choose elective courses in architecture, construction, and engineering. Our class sizes in this program are kept to a maximum of about 20 students, in order to facilitate hands-on projects. During their first year, students take Principles of Architecture, Construction, and Engineering. For their second year, students can choose to follow a pathway in one of these fields. In the Architecture pathway, students take Architectural Design during their second year, Advanced Architectural Design in their third year, and have the option to take a Practicum course in their senior year. Our architecture classroom is set up with both hand drawing and computer equipment and software, as well as tables for model building. In upper level classes, students receive instruction in sketching, measured drawings, model building, Revit software, and presentation skills. ETA: Diverse Student PopulationsOur school has significant minority student representation and participation in our programs, and we are working to encourage female students to progress in the courses as well as males. Taking a sample from a teacher's roster in the program, about 47% of the students in the introductory classes come from families where a language other than English is spoken at home. The majority of these students' home languages is Spanish, although languages such as French, Bengali, Nepali, and Urdu are represented as well. In our ACE courses, we have students with backgrounds from countries that include Mexico, El Salvador, Argentina, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria and more. Female as well as minority students are continuing into upper level ACE classes. In our Advanced Architectural Design, five out of nineteen students are currently female. Similarly, our upper level Engineering Design classes have about four out of fourteen female students. Next year, ACE hopes to add Interior Design as an elective, to help encourage more female students to take courses in our ACE Academy. ACE Academy MacArthur High School, Irving ISD
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 16:37:44 GMT -5
Does it really matter if he was treated that way because of his race or because the cop and principal just wanted to for no good reason? I What the school will be teaching is that there is no accountability for those in power.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 20, 2015 17:56:49 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that's not what the kid brought in. Come on, Paul. The police severely overreacted because of the boy's ethnicity. All the lipstick in the world isn't going to make that pig beautiful. I posted the device the kid brought in. I posted about who the boy's father is and we know he got a White House invite from a President very sympathetic to Muslims, and so we know that this entire thing was a PR stunt. The only thing the school did wrong, was to fail to act on their suspicions and take steps to protect the students. To the extent the boy's ethnicity and in particular, his religion, entered in to their decision, that is completely appropriate given the current world situation. Do you know how many people from Germany and Japan were allowed to immigrate- even as refugees- during the war?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 18:37:10 GMT -5
Another winning Republican slogan 'Say Yes to Internment Camps!'
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Sept 20, 2015 20:02:58 GMT -5
Considering he brought the clock to show his engineering teacher, yeah it sounds like this school probably offers some engineering classes. You mean the engineering teacher who told him it looked like a bomb? And "engineering classes" doesn't automatically mean "kids bringing improvised circuits to school", which is particularly obvious in this case. A known political radical? The guy ran for a mayoral position in his home country. No, he ran for the presidency of his country twice. He's gone toe to toe with senators, participated in mock trials of Islam, and generally made a name for himself in defense of his religion. I suppose it's reaching to call that "radical", but let's say "zealous". Why you think I'd be mad at the school board, who has literally nothing to do with the situation, is beyond me. I might possibly be mad at the school administration if the kid had a history of making threats or something, but the school board? Whatever group it is that has authority to dictate what can and can't be brought into the school. In Canada, most of that occurs at the provincial level or at the level of the municipal district.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 20, 2015 20:47:39 GMT -5
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Post by fishy999 on Sept 21, 2015 19:41:58 GMT -5
Still can't blame the kid for anything except maybe not being aware enough of the current political climate in this country. The question I have- is that what the average American thinks a bomb looks like? A box with a numerical LED display on it? Are we that dumb? Bombs count down and make noises Too many people educated by action movies.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 22, 2015 8:56:19 GMT -5
Still can't blame the kid for anything except maybe not being aware enough of the current political climate in this country. The question I have- is that what the average American thinks a bomb looks like? A box with a numerical LED display on it? Are we that dumb? Bombs count down and make noises Too many people educated by action movies. we also think we know what a bomber looks like. equally stupid.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 22, 2015 9:25:56 GMT -5
Still can't blame the kid for anything except maybe not being aware enough of the current political climate in this country. The question I have- is that what the average American thinks a bomb looks like? A box with a numerical LED display on it? Are we that dumb? Bombs count down and make noises Too many people educated by action movies. we also think we know what a bomber looks like. equally stupid. They're all brown. Even Timothy McVeigh.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 22, 2015 9:29:49 GMT -5
we also think we know what a bomber looks like. equally stupid. They're all brown. Even Timothy McVeigh. and this guy:
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 22, 2015 15:05:47 GMT -5
Still can't blame the kid for anything except maybe not being aware enough of the current political climate in this country. The question I have- is that what the average American thinks a bomb looks like? A box with a numerical LED display on it? Are we that dumb? Bombs count down and make noises Too many people educated by action movies. I've already posted examples of bombs and little Ahmed Mohammad's clock side by side and nobody that didn't already know which was which could tell the difference. So, we aren't stupid. As further evidence that we're not stupid, we figured out pretty fast that Obama's White House invitation meant something else was afoot, and lo and behold we figured out the little shit's father is a muslim activist. I think that's what bothers the media and political elite about us crazy right wingers-- we're a lot smarter than a bunch of smug, self-important, political activists, and politicians give us credit for.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 22, 2015 15:15:06 GMT -5
Still can't blame the kid for anything except maybe not being aware enough of the current political climate in this country. The question I have- is that what the average American thinks a bomb looks like? A box with a numerical LED display on it? Are we that dumb? Bombs count down and make noises Too many people educated by action movies. I've already posted examples of bombs and little Ahmed Mohammad's clock side by side and nobody that didn't already know which was which could tell the difference. So, we aren't stupid. As further evidence that we're not stupid, we figured out pretty fast that Obama's White House invitation meant something else was afoot, and lo and behold we figured out the little shit's father is a muslim activist. I think that's what bothers the media and political elite about us crazy right wingers-- we're a lot smarter than a bunch of smug, self-important, political activists, and politicians give us credit for. this reminds me of Bush joking about WMD. not funny.
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Post by garion2003 on Sept 22, 2015 16:19:36 GMT -5
And in other news, the British have created a large bomb, apparently mounted on a rocket:
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 22, 2015 16:58:32 GMT -5
Still can't blame the kid for anything except maybe not being aware enough of the current political climate in this country. The question I have- is that what the average American thinks a bomb looks like? A box with a numerical LED display on it? Are we that dumb? Bombs count down and make noises Too many people educated by action movies. I've already posted examples of bombs and little Ahmed Mohammad's clock side by side and nobody that didn't already know which was which could tell the difference. So, we aren't stupid. As further evidence that we're not stupid, we figured out pretty fast that Obama's White House invitation meant something else was afoot, and lo and behold we figured out the little shit's father is a muslim activist. I think that's what bothers the media and political elite about us crazy right wingers-- we're a lot smarter than a bunch of smug, self-important, political activists, and politicians give us credit for. Not the meme but the analysis.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2015 10:25:52 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2015 11:29:43 GMT -5
anyone want to wager that this "story" is rubbish?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Sept 24, 2015 10:16:32 GMT -5
We now have a clearer picture of what's going on.
On the surface, it seems unlikely that Pres. Obama personally got in touch with Ahmed's father, orchestrated the plot to demonize America's police, and then sat back to watch the plan unfold. But let us consider:
Ahmed cannibalizes a standard alarm clock and marches a suspicious-looking circuit (indistinguishable from a homemade bomb trigger) into his school. He advertises it to everybody and refuses to explain its proper function. Through back channels, Pres. Obama had earlier sent out a classified "person of interest" report to police regarding Ahmed's father, warning them that the man was considered a threat by the DHS.
When police get the call from the school about Ahmed strutting around with what appears to be a bomb, their worst fears materialize. With totally uncharacteristic militancy and harshness, they descend on the boy and drag him away in front of waiting cameras. (Pres. Obama had encouraged Ahmed to run if possible, forcing the police to either kill or violently subdue him, making him the perfect Islamic martyr. Unfortunately for the President, the boy either lost his nerve or never found an opportunity to break away from police.)
With the local courts and media firmly in Pres. Obama's pocket, he easily prohibits the release of any police or media records that might expose his involvement. America, meanwhile, drinks deeply from the "Muslims are being persecuted" poisoned well the President has set out for them. He has made the protectors into the enemy, and the enemy into a martyr. The political left laps at the narrative like thirsty dogs.
But amid all the careful scheming, the President makes one critical mistake. The staffers maintaining his social media feeds assume that his instructions to tweet about the clock at 2:45 PM refer to Washington, D.C. time, but Pres. Obama had intended 2:45 PM Texas time, two hours later. As a result, his "tweet" goes out a full 90 minutes before the photo of Ahmed's clock is made public. The message includes the statement "cool clock!"
On what would the President base such a comment if he hadn't even seen it?
His scheme uncovered, his plans unraveling before his eyes, the President sits back in his chair and pulls the .38 pistol out of the desk drawer in front of him. He's locked in the Oval Office now, his dreams lying in shambles around him. Angry voices shout and fists pound on the doors. "Come out now, Mr. President! We have a warrant for your arrest!"
Pres. Obama weeps gently. He says a prayer to Allah. Puts the gun to his head.
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Post by Opti on Sept 24, 2015 10:38:11 GMT -5
anyone want to wager that this "story" is rubbish? No. Not even worth the effort to prove it wrong.
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Post by fishy999 on Sept 25, 2015 17:50:12 GMT -5
Ahmed cannibalizes a standard alarm clock and marches a suspicious-looking circuit (indistinguishable from a homemade bomb trigger) into his school. He advertises it to everybody and refuses to explain its proper function. Through back channels, Pres. Obama had earlier sent out a classified "person of interest" report to police regarding Ahmed's father, warning them that the man was considered a threat by the DHS. That is the question- and even if true that does not translate to some evil motive. It is plainly few parts- a circuit board, a transformer, a small ribbon cable to a display, an unused 9V battery backup plug typical to alarm clocks- NOT A BOMB. And echoing early posts- EVERYTHING is a bomb trigger if someone wants it to be. No reason for arrest- so if not for the cops, Obama would have not been involved. Time to put the blame where it lies- arresting a child for no good reason. In my day the worst would be getting licks.
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