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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 18, 2015 23:08:12 GMT -5
The facts are interesting. The photo of the boy in cuffs was taken by his sister. The family asked that he be allowed to take the picture with cuffs on at the police station. Then the photo went viral as the family wanted. The family is currently lawyered up to sue the mayor and not the school district. Why? Because the mayor has previously gone on the record against sharia law coming to her city. This entire event was staged and is working out exactly as the family intended. good. it sounds like they are dealing with a bunch of mindless fearbots.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 18, 2015 23:22:51 GMT -5
I'm kinda curious. To what "facts" do you refer, AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP? Where are these "facts" coming from? Are these "facts" from the police, the boy's family, the school, an attorney? I wasn't there so I don't know the real facts. Neither, for that matter, do any of us. We know what we read in the media.
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Post by fishy999 on Sept 18, 2015 23:31:32 GMT -5
The facts are interesting. The photo of the boy in cuffs was taken by his sister. The family asked that he be allowed to take the picture with cuffs on at the police station. Then the photo went viral as the family wanted. The family is currently lawyered up to sue the mayor and not the school district. Why? Because the mayor has previously gone on the record against sharia law coming to her city. This entire event was staged and is working out exactly as the family intended. good. it sounds like they are dealing with a bunch of mindless fearbots. The mayor is a well known Islamaphobe- and it is quite telling that some on the 'right' are coalescing on the narrative that this was an intentional act. Well, if that is true than cops are even dumber that their current records- wasn't a bomb, knew it wasn't, media called it a briefcase when it was more like a cigar box, and they arrested the kid while not evacuating. If it was true in some screwed up world that this was intentional- then guess who won that round.
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Post by fishy999 on Sept 18, 2015 23:34:46 GMT -5
BTW anyone with a lick of sense looking at the picture of the clock/bomb could identify all of the components in less than a minute. Of course if you are some dumbass.........blinky light, bomb, terror!
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Post by Shooby on Sept 19, 2015 2:12:33 GMT -5
The school absolutely did the right thing.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 19, 2015 4:36:11 GMT -5
BTW anyone with a lick of sense looking at the picture of the clock/bomb could identify all of the components in less than a minute. Of course if you are some dumbass.........blinky light, bomb, terror! wrong thinking leads to wrong conclusions. if you are looking for terrorists, you can find them everywhere.
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Post by cameragrrl on Sept 19, 2015 5:12:40 GMT -5
You guys aren't stupid, so stop acting like it. We all know the difference between an alarm clock and a bomb is the explosive. Any digital clock can be used to trigger an explosive agent, but lacking any actual explosive it's just a fucking clock. Oh noes a circuit board, it must be a bomb! Give me a fucking break. Have you opened the phone you carry with you at all times? There's a circuit board and wires in it. Same for your laptop, desktop, the smart board the teacher that confiscated the clock uses, etc. We're surrounded by circuit boards and wires. I don't know if you've looked at US achievement in math, science, and higher ed STEM enrollment lately, but the last thing this country needs is to be discouraging nerds that are in robotics club and like tinkering with simple electronics. #IStandWithAhmed OK, then hook up the same clock device and go through airport security...let us know how that works out for you I've done this, 3-4 times. Not a peep out of airport security. I was carrying 5-6 plastic boards with PCBs, wires and LCD screens. They were demos that we were showing at a trade show. ETA: Any prototype electronics are going to look like a bomb trigger to someone who wants to see it that way. As others have mentioned, how is anyone going to learn about engineering if they can't experiment?
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Sept 19, 2015 7:34:28 GMT -5
BTW anyone with a lick of sense looking at the picture of the clock/bomb could identify all of the components in less than a minute. Of course if you are some dumbass.........blinky light, bomb, terror! wrong thinking leads to wrong conclusions. if you are looking for terrorists, you can find them everywhere. Kind of like people who see dicrimination, sexism, socialism, communism, and a move toward a theocracy all the time I supose.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 19, 2015 8:32:20 GMT -5
Is this on the thread about clocks because time is ticking down on the Huckabee campaign?
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 19, 2015 12:08:57 GMT -5
BTW anyone with a lick of sense looking at the picture of the clock/bomb could identify all of the components in less than a minute. Of course if you are some dumbass.........blinky light, bomb, terror! Exactly. I can see how an English teacher would be concerned. However, the child showed his clock to his engineering student - a person who *should* be able to identify the components. Why did they not call him down and ask him what's going on? Dumbasses!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 19, 2015 12:42:22 GMT -5
The facts are interesting. The photo of the boy in cuffs was taken by his sister. The family asked that he be allowed to take the picture with cuffs on at the police station. Then the photo went viral as the family wanted. The family is currently lawyered up to sue the mayor and not the school district. Why? Because the mayor has previously gone on the record against sharia law coming to her city. This entire event was staged and is working out exactly as the family intended. Got a link, or was that pulled directly from your rectum? Also curious if your new theory is that it was just the family involved, or if you still think the government somehow put them up to it like you alluded to in your first or second post on this thread. I can't decide which narrative I find more hilarious. My personal opinion is that islamists take a sporting delight in humiliating us. I've said before, like minded ideologues don't need coordination or marching orders. Maybe there was some, but there doesn't need to be. Birds of a feather flock together.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 19, 2015 12:43:57 GMT -5
wrong thinking leads to wrong conclusions. if you are looking for terrorists, you can find them everywhere. Kind of like people who see dicrimination, sexism, socialism, communism, and a move toward a theocracy all the time I supose. Bingo.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 19, 2015 12:45:55 GMT -5
The facts are interesting. The photo of the boy in cuffs was taken by his sister. The family asked that he be allowed to take the picture with cuffs on at the police station. Then the photo went viral as the family wanted. The family is currently lawyered up to sue the mayor and not the school district. Why? Because the mayor has previously gone on the record against sharia law coming to her city. This entire event was staged and is working out exactly as the family intended. Got a link, or was that pulled directly from your rectum? Also curious if your new theory is that it was just the family involved, or if you still think the government somehow put them up to it like you alluded to in your first or second post on this thread. I can't decide which narrative I find more hilarious. This is what is referred to as having an original, but well-informed opinion. All the facts are available from links already posted.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 19, 2015 12:54:30 GMT -5
Nobody could have gotten a picture of the child in handcuffs, no matter where said picture was taken, had the police not put the child in handcuffs in the first place. That does not equate to "staged", Paul, no matter how much you might wish it did. Nitpicking. The ENTIRE EVENT was staged, whether or not the police put the kid in handcuffs because they thought he belonged in handcuffs and his sister got permission to take his picture like that, or whether they staged that part of it. The whole point is that this was all scripted by their muslim activist father to go after a mayor that opposes sharia coming to their town. Otherwise, why not sue the school district, or the police? Why go after the mayor. Muslims coming here to colonize the country for islam has a name: Hijrah. The difference between moderate muslims and muslim extremists is the means of dominating the world for islam. The moderates move for hijrah. They don't move anywhere to assimilate and become part of the local culture. When muslims move, they deliberately segregate themselves and seek to change the culture they are quite literally invading. This is what is happening in London, Paris, Minneapolis, and Dearborn. I don't fear hijrah nearly as much as I fear useful idiots for hijrah, though. You know, at some point Americans are going to have to figure out that it is not only not "racist" or "bigoted" or "islamophobic" to embrace their own culture, support common sense controls on immigration, and insist on assimilation, and realize that our very survival depends on it.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 19, 2015 12:57:18 GMT -5
Paul, I'm usually game for your radical threads and tend to agree with your theories on the economy. But you sound like a lunatic right now... like some old white dude polishing his rifle while sitting on the porch of his plantation- style house.
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Post by workpublic on Sept 19, 2015 14:13:36 GMT -5
If the kid was white, christian and named Joe smith would be have been invited to the white house?
And don't try to tell me he wouldn't have been detained in the first place
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Post by b2r on Sept 19, 2015 14:18:49 GMT -5
Of course it has a power source, you can't show your clock to your engineering teacher if it doesn't work. It had small onboard batteries. Baking soda volcanoes are already invented too, but plenty of kids make them to experiment with science. Try to spin this however you want, you're never going to turn a 14 year old nerd into a terrorist without making yourself look like a racist asshole. The school and local police way overreacted here. End of story. Anything beyond that narrative is ridiculous. Egineering Teacher: Cool, but don't show it to anyone else...Go ahead and leave it set to 'alarm' at some point though!
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 19, 2015 14:47:59 GMT -5
... And don't try to tell me he wouldn't have been detained in the first place That would certainly be a waste of time.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 19, 2015 14:50:41 GMT -5
Got a link, or was that pulled directly from your rectum? Also curious if your new theory is that it was just the family involved, or if you still think the government somehow put them up to it like you alluded to in your first or second post on this thread. I can't decide which narrative I find more hilarious. My personal opinion is that islamists take a sporting delight in humiliating us. I've said before, like minded ideologues don't need coordination or marching orders. Maybe there was some, but there doesn't need to be. Birds of a feather flock together. They don't have to take delight in humiliating us. We do a damned good job of this ourselves without their help.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 19, 2015 14:54:19 GMT -5
Of course it has a power source! Most circuit boards do in one way or another. Yes, the clock is already invented. This isn't the point of the exercise. The point is to take a group of electronic pieces and have it do something that you've never made before. Hell, I took an electronics class (first one ever) and got a circuit board to play Ode to Joy as my project. I have an Arduino kit where I've managed to do all kinds of things. I also have a stack of blown out motors from my learning process. I can understand the urge to fiddle with things, even if something was already done. The point is that HE (and I) learned how to do something.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 19, 2015 14:58:17 GMT -5
If the kid was white, christian and named Joe smith would be have been invited to the white house? And don't try to tell me he wouldn't have been detained in the first place Go online and look up Arduino projects and HS and you will see a multitude of projects that are done by engineering classes in HS. The breadth of info out there is incredible, and what kids are learning to do with electronics is waaaay more than what I ever did in HS. And I applaud this. Everything we touch these days has a circuit board in it, and STARTING salaries with this knowledge is in the 6 figures with a 2 year associates degree. We should be celebrating this, not arresting and handcuffing these kids. This is phenomenally short sighted of this school, and doing an incredible disservice to their students.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 15:03:55 GMT -5
"who cares if a 10 year old kid has a bomb trigger? it is useless without explosives."
lol. Bomb class. Good clean fun.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 19, 2015 15:57:46 GMT -5
Nobody could have gotten a picture of the child in handcuffs, no matter where said picture was taken, had the police not put the child in handcuffs in the first place. That does not equate to "staged", Paul, no matter how much you might wish it did. Nitpicking. The ENTIRE EVENT was staged, whether or not the police put the kid in handcuffs because they thought he belonged in handcuffs and his sister got permission to take his picture like that, or whether they staged that part of it. The whole point is that this was all scripted by their muslim activist father to go after a mayor that opposes sharia coming to their town. Otherwise, why not sue the school district, or the police? Why go after the mayor. Muslims coming here to colonize the country for islam has a name: Hijrah. The difference between moderate muslims and muslim extremists is the means of dominating the world for islam. The moderates move for hijrah. They don't move anywhere to assimilate and become part of the local culture. When muslims move, they deliberately segregate themselves and seek to change the culture they are quite literally invading. This is what is happening in London, Paris, Minneapolis, and Dearborn. I don't fear hijrah nearly as much as I fear useful idiots for hijrah, though. You know, at some point Americans are going to have to figure out that it is not only not "racist" or "bigoted" or "islamophobic" to embrace their own culture, support common sense controls on immigration, and insist on assimilation, and realize that our very survival depends on it. No, Paul. Not agreeing with your pronouncements of "fact" is not nitpicking. It's simply seeing things differently than you do. That's not only allowed, it's encouraged. You put out as fact whatever you decide is fact. I don't always agree and, I'm sure, will not do so in future.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 19, 2015 19:53:00 GMT -5
Nitpicking. The ENTIRE EVENT was staged, whether or not the police put the kid in handcuffs because they thought he belonged in handcuffs and his sister got permission to take his picture like that, or whether they staged that part of it. The whole point is that this was all scripted by their muslim activist father to go after a mayor that opposes sharia coming to their town. Otherwise, why not sue the school district, or the police? Why go after the mayor. Muslims coming here to colonize the country for islam has a name: Hijrah. The difference between moderate muslims and muslim extremists is the means of dominating the world for islam. The moderates move for hijrah. They don't move anywhere to assimilate and become part of the local culture. When muslims move, they deliberately segregate themselves and seek to change the culture they are quite literally invading. This is what is happening in London, Paris, Minneapolis, and Dearborn. I don't fear hijrah nearly as much as I fear useful idiots for hijrah, though. You know, at some point Americans are going to have to figure out that it is not only not "racist" or "bigoted" or "islamophobic" to embrace their own culture, support common sense controls on immigration, and insist on assimilation, and realize that our very survival depends on it. No, Paul. Not agreeing with your pronouncements of "fact" is not nitpicking. It's simply seeing things differently than you do. That's not only allowed, it's encouraged. You put out as fact whatever you decide is fact. I don't always agree and, I'm sure, will not do so in future. This is America. You have the right to be wrong.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 19, 2015 20:12:19 GMT -5
No, Paul. Not agreeing with your pronouncements of "fact" is not nitpicking. It's simply seeing things differently than you do. That's not only allowed, it's encouraged. You put out as fact whatever you decide is fact. I don't always agree and, I'm sure, will not do so in future. This is America. You have the right to be wrong. Yes, Paul. We both do.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2015 2:54:36 GMT -5
You're missing the point. Almost anything can be used as a bomb trigger. A bomb trigger is some device that sends an electric charge, usually time delayed or remotely triggered somehow to an explosive agent. This can be used as a bomb trigger and I can pull one off of any lamp, home appliance, or whatever. I can also walk into any hardware store in the country and buy one for about $5. It doesn't have the advantage of being time delayed or remotely triggered, but if I stick the wires into a block of explosives and plug the other end into any electrical socket it will explode. This is also a bomb trigger. Pretty much every house in the country has one. We usually call them alarm clocks. I can buy one in any big box retailer for about $10. All I have to do is pull the plastic case apart and run a wire from the circuit board inside to my explosive. This one has the advantage of being time delayed, but again, isn't remotely triggerable. All three of these are bomb triggers. Pretty much every person in the country carries one in their pocket, including most high school students. All I have to do is pull the case apart and run a wire from the circuit board inside to my explosive. I can use it as either a time delayed device, or I can remotely trigger it by calling the bomb from any other phone in the country. A "bomb trigger" is anything capable of passing an electric charge. Otherwise known as damn near anything. I can pretty much guarantee that I can walk into the bedroom of every single child in the country and find at least three different objects or parts of objects that I could use to trigger an explosive with some very slight, if any, tinkering. All you hysterical weirdos calling this a bomb trigger are giving your own kids bomb triggers every friggin Christmas. They're all over your house. They're inside your car. Your garage is probably full of them. You know what the following is? A remotely detonated bomb trigger with a dead man switch that happens to be covered in bright plastic. It costs $19.99 and Amazon can have it at my house in two days guaranteed. As it turns out there's an epidemic of bomb triggers covered in bright plastic in the US. The Jihadists responsible are especially reprehensible because they're hiding them in children's toys. They're everywhere from electronic toddler pianos to RC cars. I was at my local Target yesterday, they had to have had at least 1,000 bomb triggers available for sale. AT LEAST. They're friggin everywhere. We've code named the areas that aspiring jihadists can stock up on bomb triggers the toy and electronics aisles. Tell your friends, and petition these businesses to put a stop to it before we're all destroyed like the infidels that we are. nah, i didn't miss the point. i was just being obnoxious.
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