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Post by NancysSummerSip on Sept 15, 2015 13:57:48 GMT -5
Would he enjoy a trampoline park? My co-worker used a pass to one of those to help his 13 year old lose weight. The kid really wasn't into sports, but loved the trampoline, so it worked... Probably would love it, but I challenge you to find one within two hours of my house! I would not suggest you buy one of the large ones for your yard (your homeowner's insurer would have a fit) but what about one of the small ones? I've used one for exercise. It's easy on the joints and he won't bounce high enough to hit the ceiling or fly off it. If you do not want to look at new equipment, I'd check eBay or Craigslist for used sporting gear. That way, he can try new sports without you spending a fortune. And while I agree with Zib that food choices in your house are yours (your money, your shopping), there's a fine line between discipline and food warfare. It's a kitchen table, not a battlefield. If you turn food into a weapon, then every meal becomes miserable. You can use the "do it because I say so" logic all you want. And sometimes it even works. Not with food, though. Take it from someone who was the best sneak eater ever. If I could beat the grownups at that game, your son can, too. This is the age where his food choices get set for life. Sure, he could suddenly change in a year or so and become the healthiest eater on Mother Earth, and do it all by himself. Good influences happen all the time and come from all kinds of places. But the most effective positive force comes from the people he spends the most time with, and the ones who give him the most positive feedback.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 13:59:02 GMT -5
Probably would love it, but I challenge you to find one within two hours of my house! There's a rock climbing wall and possibly zip line at Children's Museum of La Crosse That place is really geared towards a lot younger kids. I'm not even sure they'd let him do the wall at 13. The college in town does real rock climbing up Sugarloaf every Tuesday (or Wednesday?) evening. You just show up and they rig you up to prevent death. We've done that a couple times, but he doesn't get very high before freaking out and giving up.
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Post by cronewitch on Sept 15, 2015 13:59:14 GMT -5
We split firewood by hand when we own a log splitter as exercise. Winter give the kid a show shovel, I liked to make paths in the snow as a teen when we had snow. When I was 17 my dad put me on a meat and veggie only diet and I lost weight. This was before Atkins but dad invented it living in a work camp with all you could eat food and he gained weight living on pies and things. I still got school lunch so not totally diet and went to the store at lunch to buy candy and orange juice and still lost 20lbs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 13:59:20 GMT -5
Not an issue! She's got a barn! And there was a cowboy on the Ninja Warrior thing that was practicing that spider-splits jump thing with a mini-trampoline and bales of hay. She's got the hay right now! Perfect! MPL - Has he seen American Ninja Warrior? Would he be interested in stuff like that? Nope. I don't think so anyhow. I've never seen it and have no idea what it is.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Sept 15, 2015 14:05:48 GMT -5
Cold turkey milk? He would just die. He has been making an effort to cut back. He'll ask me to rinse his glass out and fill it with water after his first glass at dinner. He can't fill his own water glass?
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Sept 15, 2015 14:06:26 GMT -5
So what? It's not how high he climbs. It's the fact that he does it at all. I don't like heights. I'd freak out, too. At least at first. But instead of letting him give up in defeat, you let him know he did a good job based on what he achieved. And make a date to return on a specific date. Doesn't have to be the next day or even the next week. And make a deal with him to climb a bit higher the next time - maybe to the next ledge or outcropping, or whatever. And in return, he gets a non-food treat: maybe if he likes apps or computer games, then agree to let him buy one or two.
FWIW, I don't have an issue with bribery when it comes to getting kids to do your bidding. I would not use food in this case, however.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 14:11:58 GMT -5
Cold turkey milk? He would just die. He has been making an effort to cut back. He'll ask me to rinse his glass out and fill it with water after his first glass at dinner. He can't fill his own water glass? Yes, he can, but the way it always works out for dinner is the boys sit at the bar and I'm on the kitchen side. I usually don't sit down to eat and am the one on the sink/stove/fridge side, so if anyone needs something I grab it.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Sept 15, 2015 14:12:03 GMT -5
Honestly, the only way to keep him not eating garbage is to not let garbage in the house.
He will eat when he's hungry enough. It doesn't sound like he eats any vegetables from what I read. Normally I'd say "boys will be boys" and they'll figure it out when they are an adult. But he seems to be having a lot of food issues and that comes from a poor diet.
If he won't do green salads, there are infinite numbers of quinoa, wheat berry, and cous cous salads that you can sneak veggies into, top with some meat if you want, and other nutritious food. It has to start a home, and with Mom IMO.
100% whole wheat bread, pasta, etc.
You can encourage veggie snacking with hummus or low fat ranch dip.
What if you guys went on walks together after dinner for some exercise? You can do that in the dark.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 15, 2015 14:13:00 GMT -5
MPL - Has he seen American Ninja Warrior? Would he be interested in stuff like that? Nope. I don't think so anyhow. I've never seen it and have no idea what it is.
I caught it on Esquire over the weekend (I didn't know we HAD Esquire up to that point) and it's people running this hard obstacle course in various cities. The top 15 finishers move on to the Vegas Finals, which is 4 sections. Apparently no one's EVER finished the 4th section - I haven't seen the finale yet so based on teh screams of the announcers in the commercials, someone might have done it. Prize is a million dollars.
Section 1 of the Vegas finals using 6 'stools' to cross over water. 2nd one was using a mini trampoline to jump onto a wooden propeller blade and transition to a rope, then swing over to the wall. 3rd part was sliding down a silk rope zip line sort of thing. 4th was this jumping spider-splits thing where you jump off a min-trampoline and use your hands and feet to move across (and up) a hallway that's about 5 feet or so wide. 5th was crossing another set of 6 posts set in a spiral shape and then swinging over to to the finish point. 6th was getting up a curved wall face, 7th was crossing 3 of those flippy things you see in teh water parks and final was crossing 3 trapeze type bars (each higher than the last and separated by about 5 feet) and jumping onto a rope wall, climbing the rope wall and then smacking the buzzer. All in less than 2 minutes and 30 seconds. Oh and most of this is over a pool of water and if you so much as dip a finger or toe in the water, you're out.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Sept 15, 2015 14:13:11 GMT -5
He can't fill his own water glass? Yes, he can, but the way it always works out for dinner is the boys sit at the bar and I'm on the kitchen side. I usually don't sit down to eat and am the one on the sink/stove/fridge side, so if anyone needs something I grab it. Ok, this is a red flag for me. You all need to sit down and have a family meal together.
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Post by swamp on Sept 15, 2015 14:13:40 GMT -5
Do you have a Wii?
Just Dance is really fun.
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Post by chen35 on Sept 15, 2015 14:15:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 14:17:49 GMT -5
What if you guys went on walks together after dinner for some exercise? You can do that in the dark. We do this quite a bit. I walk every night and if we get home early enough I make the boys walk or bike along. Younger son goes to bed at 7 or 7:30 though, so often it's just me. He won't walk by himself, and it's probably not the safest anyhow. We don't have much of a shoulder on the road and while there isn't a lot of traffic often it's people going 65 mph and headed home from the bar a few miles down the road.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 14:18:59 GMT -5
Do you have a Wii?
Just Dance is really fun. We do have a Wii. I'll have to look into that. All we have is the sports games and Mario Galaxy...and maybe a zombie killing game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 14:20:20 GMT -5
Yes, he can, but the way it always works out for dinner is the boys sit at the bar and I'm on the kitchen side. I usually don't sit down to eat and am the one on the sink/stove/fridge side, so if anyone needs something I grab it. Ok, this is a red flag for me. You all need to sit down and have a family meal together. There is like 100 things I should be doing everyday. I'm trying, but time is pretty tight.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 15, 2015 14:24:53 GMT -5
Honestly, the only way to keep him not eating garbage is to not let garbage in the house.
We do this for DH. I let him talk me into buying some Coke at Sam's since I've been drinking a ton of it to keep awake at work since the baby has kept me up lately. Before the end of the day DH had drank FIVE cans of pop. He admitted it was a bad idea to bring a case of it into the house. We won't be doing that again. Back to purchasing the occassional one from the gas station on the way home. He's been doing really well with the no pop thing so it was amazing to both of us how fast his habits did a 180 once he had regular access again. If he can't not drink 4 gallons of milk at a time then no more 4 gallons of milk in the house. You may both end up surprised at how much better he starts to feel when he isn't digesting that much dairy at a time. And get rid of the Hot Pockets. Those things are TERRIBLE for you. That's probably a big source of indigestion as well if they are a regular part of his diet. I remember they came out wit the story that Hot Pockets were being recalled for tainted meat. My first thought was "Hot Pockets has actual meat inside them?"
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Post by The Captain on Sept 15, 2015 14:26:09 GMT -5
Ummm, guys - remember - this kid can't do a somersault. You throw American Ninja Warriors at him and he's gonna say no way in hell can I do that.
(says the woman, who says there's no way in hell I can do that stuff).
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Post by The Captain on Sept 15, 2015 14:30:04 GMT -5
How about boxing/kickboxing.
Just need a jump-rope and a little brother dummy to beat. Maybe gloves if you start using some force.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 14:30:12 GMT -5
Honestly, the only way to keep him not eating garbage is to not let garbage in the house.
We do this for DH. I let him talk me into buying some Coke at Sam's since I've been drinking a ton of it to keep awake at work since the baby has kept me up lately. Before the end of the day DH had drank FIVE cans of pop. He admitted it was a bad idea to bring a case of it into the house. We won't be doing that again. Back to purchasing the occassional one from the gas station on the way home. He's been doing really well with the no pop thing so it was amazing to both of us how fast his habits did a 180 once he had regular access again. If he can't not drink 4 gallons of milk at a time then no more 4 gallons of milk in the house. You may both end up surprised at how much better he starts to feel when he isn't digesting that much dairy at a time. And get rid of the Hot Pockets. Those things are TERRIBLE for you. That's probably a big source of indigestion as well if they are a regular part of his diet. I remember they came out wit the story that Hot Pockets were being recalled for tainted meat. My first thought was "Hot Pockets has actual meat inside them?" <MPL hides the box from her jalepeno chicken one>
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 15, 2015 14:31:10 GMT -5
Ummm, guys - remember - this kid can't do a somersault. You throw American Ninja Warriors at him and he's gonna say no way in hell can I do that. (says the woman, who says there's no way in hell I can do that stuff). Yeah I know, I know. But it's really amazing to see what these people can do. Lord knows I coudln't do it, even when I was younger and in better shape.
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Post by t-dog on Sept 15, 2015 14:32:42 GMT -5
ok I am only on page 1, but darn, we could not have more different kids. My 12.5 year old is 4'7" and only 67 pounds. He is the MOST athletic kid I have ever met. I bought him a step tracker so I could teach him that he needs to eat MORE to gain weight (he is desperately trying to break 70 lbs).
Where they seem to coincide is the gut issues. Mine for a year on and off with no pattern complained of diahrrea and stomach aches. After pushing his doctor for a referral (GP thought he was just "backed up" and needed a good poop cleanout) to a GI specialist he was diagnosed with Chron's disease. So all the food (mine tends to go first for fruit or veggies) was of no benefit because he wasn't absorbing any of the nutrients. Now with a grain free diet he has grown 1.5 inches and put on 3.5 pounds in 10 months.
Push the Dr. for a more complete workup just to assure there is nothing physical going on. FYI - my boy also confuses boredome with hunger, could that be part of the problem?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 15, 2015 14:33:11 GMT -5
Honestly, the only way to keep him not eating garbage is to not let garbage in the house.
We do this for DH. I let him talk me into buying some Coke at Sam's since I've been drinking a ton of it to keep awake at work since the baby has kept me up lately. Before the end of the day DH had drank FIVE cans of pop. He admitted it was a bad idea to bring a case of it into the house. We won't be doing that again. Back to purchasing the occassional one from the gas station on the way home. He's been doing really well with the no pop thing so it was amazing to both of us how fast his habits did a 180 once he had regular access again. If he can't not drink 4 gallons of milk at a time then no more 4 gallons of milk in the house. You may both end up surprised at how much better he starts to feel when he isn't digesting that much dairy at a time. And get rid of the Hot Pockets. Those things are TERRIBLE for you. That's probably a big source of indigestion as well if they are a regular part of his diet. I remember they came out wit the story that Hot Pockets were being recalled for tainted meat. My first thought was "Hot Pockets has actual meat inside them?" <MPL hides the box from her jalepeno chicken one> So we're back to "the kitchen is a lab and veggies are a tool to be used with his mad science skills!" "FOOLS! I'LL SHOW YOU ALL!" whoops, sorry, starting channeling.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Sept 15, 2015 14:35:39 GMT -5
Ok, this is a red flag for me. You all need to sit down and have a family meal together. There is like 100 things I should be doing everyday. I'm trying, but time is pretty tight. I know. I'm not trying to be mean.
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Post by chen35 on Sept 15, 2015 14:36:00 GMT -5
Ummm, guys - remember - this kid can't do a somersault. You throw American Ninja Warriors at him and he's gonna say no way in hell can I do that. (says the woman, who says there's no way in hell I can do that stuff). Yeah I know, I know. But it's really amazing to see what these people can do. Lord knows I coudln't do it, even when I was younger and in better shape. I couldn't do it either, but it's incredibly motivating, and looks really fun. If he could be motivated to try some modified stunts, it could really help. Doing a summersault at school with other kids watching is way more humiliating, in my experience. And yes, I mean my experience because I couldn't do a summersault either!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 15, 2015 14:42:42 GMT -5
ok I am only on page 1, but darn, we could not have more different kids. My 12.5 year old is 4'7" and only 67 pounds. He is the MOST athletic kid I have ever met. I bought him a step tracker so I could teach him that he needs to eat MORE to gain weight (he is desperately trying to break 70 lbs).
Where they seem to coincide is the gut issues. Mine for a year on and off with no pattern complained of diahrrea and stomach aches. After pushing his doctor for a referral (GP thought he was just "backed up" and needed a good poop cleanout) to a GI specialist he was diagnosed with Chron's disease. So all the food (mine tends to go first for fruit or veggies) was of no benefit because he wasn't absorbing any of the nutrients. Now with a grain free diet he has grown 1.5 inches and put on 3.5 pounds in 10 months.
Push the Dr. for a more complete workup just to assure there is nothing physical going on. FYI - my boy also confuses boredome with hunger, could that be part of the problem? This isn't a bad idea, MPL......has the doctor done any blood work on him? If not, insist so and ask if they can run a thyroid panel on him. It doesn't sound like he's been getting very complete exams and the increasing hypertension in a 13 year old does not bode well. I'm kind of surprised that this didn't send up a red flag to his doctor. And honestly, don't buy the crap. If it doesn't come into the house, it's more difficult for him to scrounge and eat. One of the things that I used to do when I was in school was have a LOT prepped in the fridge and ready to grab and eat. For instance, I would clean and bag up carrots and celery sticks to munch on for something crunchy to add to my lunch. It took awhile, but if it was easily available, I ate it.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 15, 2015 14:43:07 GMT -5
What about something like theatre? You get pretty good exercise building sets and being a techie.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 14:50:53 GMT -5
ok I am only on page 1, but darn, we could not have more different kids. My 12.5 year old is 4'7" and only 67 pounds. He is the MOST athletic kid I have ever met. I bought him a step tracker so I could teach him that he needs to eat MORE to gain weight (he is desperately trying to break 70 lbs).
Where they seem to coincide is the gut issues. Mine for a year on and off with no pattern complained of diahrrea and stomach aches. After pushing his doctor for a referral (GP thought he was just "backed up" and needed a good poop cleanout) to a GI specialist he was diagnosed with Chron's disease. So all the food (mine tends to go first for fruit or veggies) was of no benefit because he wasn't absorbing any of the nutrients. Now with a grain free diet he has grown 1.5 inches and put on 3.5 pounds in 10 months.
Push the Dr. for a more complete workup just to assure there is nothing physical going on. FYI - my boy also confuses boredome with hunger, could that be part of the problem? This isn't a bad idea, MPL......has the doctor done any blood work on him? If not, insist so and ask if they can run a thyroid panel on him. It doesn't sound like he's been getting very complete exams and the increasing hypertension in a 13 year old does not bode well. I'm kind of surprised that this didn't send up a red flag to his doctor. And honestly, don't buy the crap. If it doesn't come into the house, it's more difficult for him to scrounge and eat. One of the things that I used to do when I was in school was have a LOT prepped in the fridge and ready to grab and eat. For instance, I would clean and bag up carrots and celery sticks to munch on for something crunchy to add to my lunch. It took awhile, but if it was easily available, I ate it. I think I am going to take him back to the doctor and this time ask for nutrition counseling. I don't know if he really has high blood pressure. The last physical the doctor commented it was "slightly elevated". I just went and checked online for his last visit and it says 124/77. He was in that day because he was covered in hives and had a fever of 102. He's never had any blood work at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 14:59:43 GMT -5
There is like 100 things I should be doing everyday. I'm trying, but time is pretty tight. I know. I'm not trying to be mean. When I was married we had sit down meals in the dining room almost every night. Now, getting them fed is the primary goal. I'm also happy that they're swimming so much now because baths even every other night for younger doesn't happen.
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Post by t-dog on Sept 15, 2015 15:04:47 GMT -5
Would he enjoy a trampoline park? My co-worker used a pass to one of those to help his 13 year old lose weight. The kid really wasn't into sports, but loved the trampoline, so it worked... Probably would love it, but I challenge you to find one within two hours of my house! For $200 I got a 12 foot trampoline and its right outside my backdoor. Kids use it ALL the time, mine least but his friends are on it, so he jumps too.
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Post by t-dog on Sept 15, 2015 15:07:29 GMT -5
Seriously, I think the first step is a complete medical check.
Otherwise to get him moving get him a step tracker and make him walk the farm until he has 5000 steps in a day. When that gets easy up it to 7500 steps.
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