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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 15, 2015 11:26:29 GMT -5
I didn't read everything before posting, so someone may have said this. Give him whole wheat bread and pasta. It won't put on so much weight. Switching to brown rice from white will keep him fuller longer. As far as milk goes, cut down on it an buy milk with less fat. Maybe just go skim milk all together. Actually, going with a lower fat milk really defeats the purpose of filling a person up with milk. There is not a huge difference in calories between full fat and skim milk (UGH!) but the difference in how well it sates is considerable. Proteins and fats sate a person more than veggies and carbs - they tend to stick around longer and make you feel fuller longer. I used to buy 1-2% milk but TD buys full fat. It wasn't really a hill to die on for me, so I just drink what he likes. I've really noticed a difference.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 11:28:47 GMT -5
It depends on the person! Higher gluten content of whole wheat is not good for everyone!
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Sept 15, 2015 11:33:45 GMT -5
If not at the Y (although I'd be surprised if there wasn't something similar at yours), there are many fitness places geared toward competitive athletes that offer developmentally-appropriate training programs for kids. It's similar to Cross Fit in that it is a mix of weight training and cardio. There were ladder sprints, they pushed tires across the room, they did slalom runs -- all while the older athletes were working out on the sidelines. My kids did these programs starting at 8 or 9 and LOVED them. They saw it as a path toward getting better at sports, but there were always a good number of kids there just for the workout. It will cost more than the Y, but it was worth it, IMHO.
If that won't work, try the more solitary sports -- golf, running, hiking, trail biking. I know you're in Minnesota and you have dreadful winters like I do, but what about kayaking or canoeing? He can then use a rowing machine in the off-season. Has he tried geocaching? That would get him out and moving and is really intellectually-minded. I have teenagers, so I know the attitude thing, but get him working on your yard. Does he clean the barn? Can he ride the horses or at least walk them? Does he mow your expansive lawn? Cross-country skiing? Snow-shoeing? In other words, there are lots of ways to get exercise that don't involve team sports.
For what it's worth, my kids did the recreational swim team thing. One kid loved it. The other wore a long sleeve rash guard and a scuba face mask and complained constantly because he hated the cold water. I was the mean mother who told them they had to do swim team (winter sport) until they could find something else active to replace it with because they were not sitting around playing video games every day. They could use the fitness equipment at the town rec center starting at 13 and both switched to working out then. But, both kids were also playing other sports -- football, soccer, lacrosse, track, etc., so were motivated to stay fit and active.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 11:34:52 GMT -5
I didn't read everything before posting, so someone may have said this. Give him whole wheat bread and pasta. It won't put on so much weight. Switching to brown rice from white will keep him fuller longer. As far as milk goes, cut down on it an buy milk with less fat. Maybe just go skim milk all together. Actually, going with a lower fat milk really defeats the purpose of filling a person up with milk. There is not a huge difference in calories between full fat and skim milk (UGH!) but the difference in how well it sates is considerable. Proteins and fats sate a person more than veggies and carbs - they tend to stick around longer and make you feel fuller longer. I used to buy 1-2% milk but TD buys full fat. It wasn't really a hill to die on for me, so I just drink what he likes. I've really noticed a difference. I did actually go from skim/1% to 2% hoping that would fill him up more. Not sure if it did or not or if the difference there wasn't enough.
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Post by swamp on Sept 15, 2015 11:41:03 GMT -5
You have a farm. He shouldn't have any problem finding things to stay active. Get him out there. He's 13, not 3. No reason he can't help with chores.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 11:48:02 GMT -5
You have a farm. He shouldn't have any problem finding things to stay active. Get him out there. He's 13, not 3. No reason he can't help with chores. Our chores are pretty easy. 5 minutes in the morning and 10 or 15 in the evening. I do need a bunch of trees trimmed, but not sure I want to hand him a chain saw.
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Post by justme on Sept 15, 2015 11:52:22 GMT -5
He's old enough to be in charge of milk rationing. Growing up I only drank apple juice, water, and strawberry milk. I'm pretty sure my parents started making me in charge of consumption earlier than 13. I remember running out some weeks and other weeks where I'd have to take half portions because I had extra earlier in the week. It did mange me rather possessive of the juice but luckily no one else in the house cared if they drank it or not.
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Post by swamp on Sept 15, 2015 11:54:08 GMT -5
You have a farm. He shouldn't have any problem finding things to stay active. Get him out there. He's 13, not 3. No reason he can't help with chores. Our chores are pretty easy. 5 minutes in the morning and 10 or 15 in the evening. I do need a bunch of trees trimmed, but not sure I want to hand him a chain saw. I make the kids use the hand tools while DH and I use the power tools.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 15, 2015 11:54:42 GMT -5
sign him up for football.
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Post by justme on Sept 15, 2015 11:57:06 GMT -5
Oh new chore! He has to keep ask the chickens in a designated area for 60 secs without closing any doors. That should keep him busy running after chickens for a while. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 11:57:34 GMT -5
He's old enough to be in charge of milk rationing. Growing up I only drank apple juice, water, and strawberry milk. I'm pretty sure my parents started making me in charge of consumption earlier than 13. I remember running out some weeks and other weeks where I'd have to take half portions because I had extra earlier in the week. It did mange me rather possessive of the juice but luckily no one else in the house cared if they drank it or not. If I could keep a half gallon in the garage fridge or something that he couldn't use. Otherwise everyone in the house would be out and while I don't drink much, I do use it for some cooking and younger son likes to have cereal or a glass now and then.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Sept 15, 2015 12:00:34 GMT -5
Two thoughts, the allrecipes Christmas Morning muffins are good and you get 18, not 12 like it says. I don't use the fattier milk product it has in the recipe, can't recall if it's half and half or full out cream. Also, I noticed the Great Value greek yogurt (non fat, plain) has more protein than the other brands at the store. Up in the lower 20's per serving IIRC. Good luck, I have the issue of one needing watching and one needing extra calories too but haven't hit a great solution yet either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 12:07:05 GMT -5
Get him tested for Prader-Willi Syndrome.
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Post by saveinla on Sept 15, 2015 12:07:02 GMT -5
MPL , I have a kid like this who used to eat when he was bored - couldn't get him out of that habit until he went to college. He is now at 6-3 and 170 pounds and at 19 is very conscious about eating well and exercising. He still wont join a gym or work out with others, but watches YT videos, has bought some exercise equipment and has learnt a lot of stuff online about flexibility, stretching etc. and I am totally amazed at the transformation. So don't despair if things don't work out right away - sometimes a switch needs to turn on and we all know how teenagers are
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 12:07:26 GMT -5
As far as doing things at home. Six months out of the year it's dark when we get home from work/school. I really need to schedule something for him in the hours between him getting out of school and me leaving work. Swimming works well, but is a pain getting him to after the snow starts to fly. Right now I drop off his bike with him at the school in the morning and he bikes to the Y (or he's supposed to anyhow, it doesn't always work that way).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 12:15:07 GMT -5
Get him tested for Prader-Willi Syndrome. I looked it up, and about the only symptom he really has is the insatiable appetite, but that has pretty much just happened around the same time as growing 5 inches in a year, so I'm guessing puberty is the cause there. Otherwise, he's very tall for his age, was walking at 9 months old, reading at 3. The extreme flexibility he's like polar opposite. He's about as flexible as a tree trunk. Delayed milestones/intellectual delay Excessive sleeping Strabismus ('crossed eyes') Scoliosis (often not detected at birth) Cryptorchidism Speech delay Poor physical coordination Hyperphagia (over-eating) begins between the age of 2 and 8, and continues on throughout adulthood. Note change from feeding difficulties in infancy. Excessive weight gain Sleep disorders Delayed puberty Short stature Obesity Extreme flexibility
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 15, 2015 13:16:15 GMT -5
Way too much milk and cheese. Hot pockets? Seriously? Please don't feed anyone those things. If he really is the only one drinking the milk, then a gallon a week is sufficient and when it's gone, it's gone. Cereal isn't that good for you either. He is eating way too many carbs and way too much dairy. Mayo to boot? Yikes. Please re-think your entire menu. I know what it's like to have a beanpole and the opposite. Not fun. But eating healthy is key and he's not eating healthy. You buy and pay for the food. What there is to eat, there is. Like it or go without. As far as the verbal outbursts in school. That is something I would take very seriously and do whatever it takes to keep him keeping his opinions to himself. Stop with the TV/video game stuff except for weekends and ONLY if there have been no issues with behavior in school. If he wants to be sedentary, then he has to read. Put a kibosh on any inappropriate outbursts at home as well. Immediately correct him and tell him never ever to blurt that out again. I find it pointless to force a child to exercise or play a sport. It just ends up being a pissing contest. But you can control his food intake in your home. Start today.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 15, 2015 13:19:47 GMT -5
sign him up for football
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 15, 2015 13:23:50 GMT -5
Hell no. The insurance companies make enough with my contribution.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 15, 2015 13:25:41 GMT -5
Hell no. The insurance companies make enough with my contribution. But you need one so your kids can be kept in books after your death! ETA - sorry, crossing threads.
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Post by chen35 on Sept 15, 2015 13:28:34 GMT -5
Would he enjoy a trampoline park? My co-worker used a pass to one of those to help his 13 year old lose weight. The kid really wasn't into sports, but loved the trampoline, so it worked...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 13:30:59 GMT -5
I know he doesn't eat great, but he eats like I did when I was his age and honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how to do it differently for myself. I lived off of mac and cheese and frozen pizzas pretty much the first 20 years. My Mom was never home for dinner and just kept the freezer full of those Totinos party pizzas. I also never went out for any kind of sports ever, but I did bike everywhere.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 15, 2015 13:32:07 GMT -5
You could always get him to aspire to be on that AMerican Ninja Warrior thing I got sucked into last weekend. Holy cow those people are strong!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 13:38:43 GMT -5
Would he enjoy a trampoline park? My co-worker used a pass to one of those to help his 13 year old lose weight. The kid really wasn't into sports, but loved the trampoline, so it worked... Probably would love it, but I challenge you to find one within two hours of my house!
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 15, 2015 13:45:13 GMT -5
Would he enjoy a trampoline park? My co-worker used a pass to one of those to help his 13 year old lose weight. The kid really wasn't into sports, but loved the trampoline, so it worked... Probably would love it, but I challenge you to find one within two hours of my house! There's a rock climbing wall and possibly zip line at Children's Museum of La Crosse
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 15, 2015 13:48:49 GMT -5
I know he doesn't eat great, but he eats like I did when I was his age and honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how to do it differently for myself. I lived off of mac and cheese and frozen pizzas pretty much the first 20 years. My Mom was never home for dinner and just kept the freezer full of those Totinos party pizzas. I also never went out for any kind of sports ever, but I did bike everywhere. I think that the ingredients in those things are a lot crappier these days than when we were kids. But, the less processed, the better.
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Post by chen35 on Sept 15, 2015 13:50:12 GMT -5
Would he enjoy a trampoline park? My co-worker used a pass to one of those to help his 13 year old lose weight. The kid really wasn't into sports, but loved the trampoline, so it worked... Probably would love it, but I challenge you to find one within two hours of my house! I would tell you to just get your own trampoline (They are pretty cheap), but that doesn't solve the winter issue. How high are your ceilings?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 15, 2015 13:52:12 GMT -5
Probably would love it, but I challenge you to find one within two hours of my house! I would tell you to just get your own trampoline (They are pretty cheap), but that doesn't solve the winter issue. How high are your ceilings? Not an issue! She's got a barn! And there was a cowboy on the Ninja Warrior thing that was practicing that spider-splits jump thing with a mini-trampoline and bales of hay. She's got the hay right now!
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Post by chen35 on Sept 15, 2015 13:56:56 GMT -5
I would tell you to just get your own trampoline (They are pretty cheap), but that doesn't solve the winter issue. How high are your ceilings? Not an issue! She's got a barn! And there was a cowboy on the Ninja Warrior thing that was practicing that spider-splits jump thing with a mini-trampoline and bales of hay. She's got the hay right now! Perfect! MPL - Has he seen American Ninja Warrior? Would he be interested in stuff like that?
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