Any of y'all following the Baylor rape scandal?

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I'm curious to see how much attention is it getting from the national media. 

[milee]

Here in Florida, we've got all the news we can handle with watching FSU and how the Tallahassee police department helps the athletic department protect football players. 

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jameis-winston.html?_r=0

Or how FSU players are just behaving badly in general.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/04/22/jameis-winston-has-new-explanation-for-crab-legs-theft-that-could-cause-problems-for-florida-state/

Hm, if you google FSU player punching woman, you get so many different stories, it's hard to choose.  But here are a few:

www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/07/07/fsu-qb-deandre-johnson-suspended-coy-wire.cnn

abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/latest-woman-describes-punch-fsu-player-trial-33283149

www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/7/10/8929919/dalvin-cook-florida-state-football

[Blonde Granny]

I just read an article today on the coach at USC...I think he name is Sarkiskian . Seems he had a little too much to drink and too many meds and behaved like a fool. Said he was going into treatment even though he doesn't think he has a problem.

espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13508272/usc-trojans-coach-steve-sarkisian-seek-treatment-mixing-alcohol-medication

[kittensaver]

Aug 25, 2015 17:33:07 GMT -5 Blonde Granny said:

I just read an article today on the coach at USC...I think he name is Sarkiskian . Seems he had a little too much to drink and too many meds and behaved like a food. Said he was going into treatment even though he doesn't think he has a problem.

espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13508272/usc-trojans-coach-steve-sarkisian-seek-treatment-mixing-alcohol-medication

Everyone knows that the University of $poiled Children (aka the University of $econd Choice, aka Figueroa Tech ) has huge, on-going problems in it's athletic department. Too bad, so sad . . . .

[TheOtherMe]

Since my team used to play in the Big 12 against Baylor (where a men's basketball player murdered a teammate), yes, I have paid attention to the Baylor rape scandal.  I have not heard about it in the national media but on a message board for my team.  We don't like Baylor for many reasons. 

When I visit the message board tonight, I will see about the USC problem. 

[tcu2003]

I've paid attention since my Football team hates Baylor right now and their whiny coach Art. I've seen a ton of news coverage, but I also have a ton of FB friends who are Big 12 alums, so they also post a lot of articles.

My take is Art Briles knew exactly what he was getting in that player, and while I'm horrified and disgusted that the school did a terrible job investigating, I'm unfortunately not surprised. I also find it insulting that he's crying foul and saying he had no idea despite evidence to the contrary. And yet, he's still employed and I don't see that changing.

[tcu2003]

I also love that shortly before the guilty verdict, Baylor coaches said they "expect back" their disgraced (and guilty per a jury) player.

www.texasmonthly.com/article/silence-at-baylor/

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Aug 25, 2015 18:32:22 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Since my team used to play in the Big 12 against Baylor (where a men's basketball player murdered a teammate), yes, I have paid attention to the Baylor rape scandal.  I have not heard about it in the national media but on a message board for my team.  We don't like Baylor for many reasons. 

When I visit the message board tonight, I will see about the USC problem. 

Okay, Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, which one are you?

I'm hoping this gets more traction, honestly. 

This was the second defensive end Baylor had who was busted for rape in a two year period. Tevin Elliott was a serial rapist convicted in 2012, he is serving 20 years now after raping 4 women (that we know about). The incident blowing up now happened in October 2013.

[Wisconsin Beth]

I saw a mention of it in on Slate for an article/podcast.  I don't do podcasts and hadn't seen/heard anything else.  I've seen/read about 5 minutes TOTAL of football from July-now on TV/online/etc..  I did mention to DH last night that there was something going on scandal-wise with Baylor but that was all I had. 

So thank you all for the links. 

and I just realized that my profootballtalk.com tab isn't on up on my permanent tabs anymore.  Probably because I blame it for scripts not working. 

[GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl]

Haven't heard anything here in Boston.

But, then, as you might know, we have our own player issues.  

[muttleynfelix]

I listen to Chicago Sports radio and it has not been mentioned. But we are in a Cubs high right now.

Although they have talked a lot about the Patrick Kane investigation.

[beergut]

Have any of y'all who haven't heard anything googled "Baylor rape scandal" to see what is going on?

[mroped]

I had no idea what or who Baylor is until I read these posts!

Color me stupid but I don't follow sports. Of any kind!!!

[Artemis Windsong]

How much courage did it take for that young woman to come forward, press charges and relate her story to the court?

I have a lot of empathy for her and her family with the amount of stress and anxiety reliving the nightmare and being in court.

I hope they can find some peace and closure removing this miscreant from society.

[Wisconsin Beth]

Aug 26, 2015 17:32:12 GMT -5 beergut said:

Have any of y'all who haven't heard anything googled "Baylor rape scandal" to see what is going on?

1. it's kind of hard to Google something you don't know exists.
2. the first mention of it that I heard was approximately 72 hours ago. 
3. Right now, it's competing with the Duggar shit.  It SHOULD have been reported over a year ago. 
4. I really don't follow college football.  NFL, you betcha.  College football leaves me cold.  Around Dec. I'll be checking in with the Badgers to see how their season went/is going. 

[beergut]

Aug 26, 2015 20:20:27 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

How much courage did it take for that young woman to come forward, press charges and relate her story to the court?

I have a lot of empathy for her and her family with the amount of stress and anxiety reliving the nightmare and being in court.

I hope they can find some peace and closure removing this miscreant from society.

And the school responded by isolating her, refusing to remove the rapist from her classes/study periods, forcing her to change her schedule, and eventually cutting her scholarship and forcing her out of school.

Meanwhile, they kept the rapist in school and on scholarship in the hopes that he would beat the rap and they could get him on the football field. They allowed him to graduate and receive a degree, while they chased his victim out of school. 

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Aug 27, 2015 9:35:58 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

Aug 26, 2015 17:32:12 GMT -5 beergut said:

Have any of y'all who haven't heard anything googled "Baylor rape scandal" to see what is going on?

1. it's kind of hard to Google something you don't know exists.
2. the first mention of it that I heard was approximately 72 hours ago. 
3. Right now, it's competing with the Duggar shit.  It SHOULD have been reported over a year ago. 
4. I really don't follow college football.  NFL, you betcha.  College football leaves me cold.  Around Dec. I'll be checking in with the Badgers to see how their season went/is going. 

This should be a bigger story than Duggar, imo. So, pedophile is caught trying to cheat on his wife, big deal. 

This is a school covering up a rape and trying to get the rapist back onto the field of competition, while they ran his victim out of the school. The Baylor rape case is about more than sports, just like the Steubenville rape case was only tangentially related to sports. 

[milee]

Aug 27, 2015 18:06:46 GMT -5 beergut said:

Aug 26, 2015 20:20:27 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

How much courage did it take for that young woman to come forward, press charges and relate her story to the court?

I have a lot of empathy for her and her family with the amount of stress and anxiety reliving the nightmare and being in court.

I hope they can find some peace and closure removing this miscreant from society.

And the school responded by isolating her, refusing to remove the rapist from her classes/study periods, forcing her to change her schedule, and eventually cutting her scholarship and forcing her out of school.

Meanwhile, they kept the rapist in school and on scholarship in the hopes that he would beat the rap and they could get him on the football field. They allowed him to graduate and receive a degree, while they chased his victim out of school. 

Oh, well that makes sense then. It's good training for how many companies handle sexual harassment, especially when it originates with a valued male "rainmaker" or even just one that's higher up in the ranks. 

And what you describe about a school shutting down a complaining girl so that their star athlete isn't compromised is exactly what happened at FSU. And countless other high schools, colleges and pro sports leagues...

[TheOtherMe]

Aug 25, 2015 22:58:46 GMT -5 beergut said:

Aug 25, 2015 18:32:22 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Since my team used to play in the Big 12 against Baylor (where a men's basketball player murdered a teammate), yes, I have paid attention to the Baylor rape scandal.  I have not heard about it in the national media but on a message board for my team.  We don't like Baylor for many reasons. 

When I visit the message board tonight, I will see about the USC problem. 

Okay, Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, which one are you?

Colorado Buffs all the way!  I don't follow the NFL because all you have to do is watch the last two minutes to determine who is going to win the game. 

I really don't follow the Buffs in football because we stink. 

When we were in the Big 12 and played women's basketball against them, I was watching a game on television and an All American hit an opponent.  She did not get the punishment she deserved, imo. 

Baylor, being the good Baptist institution that they are, also made said player be quiet about her being a lesbian until her playing days were over.  That player was so good that Big 12 fans thought they would win 4 Big 12 championships and more than one national championship.  They only one won national championship while Griner was on the team.

Another lesbian had played on Baylor's previous women's national championship team.  She quit because she could be who she was and play at Baylor.

[Artemis Windsong]

Aug 27, 2015 18:06:46 GMT -5 beergut said:

Aug 26, 2015 20:20:27 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

How much courage did it take for that young woman to come forward, press charges and relate her story to the court?

I have a lot of empathy for her and her family with the amount of stress and anxiety reliving the nightmare and being in court.

I hope they can find some peace and closure removing this miscreant from society.

And the school responded by isolating her, refusing to remove the rapist from her classes/study periods, forcing her to change her schedule, and eventually cutting her scholarship and forcing her out of school.

Meanwhile, they kept the rapist in school and on scholarship in the hopes that he would beat the rap and they could get him on the football field. They allowed him to graduate and receive a degree, while they chased his victim out of school. 

Football field says it all.

I hope she can salvage her life into something spectacular.

[zibazinski]

Aug 27, 2015 9:35:58 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

Aug 26, 2015 17:32:12 GMT -5 beergut said:

Have any of y'all who haven't heard anything googled "Baylor rape scandal" to see what is going on?

1. it's kind of hard to Google something you don't know exists.
2. the first mention of it that I heard was approximately 72 hours ago. 
3. Right now, it's competing with the Duggar shit.  It SHOULD have been reported over a year ago. 
4. I really don't follow college football.  NFL, you betcha.  College football leaves me cold.  Around Dec. I'll be checking in with the Badgers to see how their season went/is going. 

I follow college football and hate pro!!

[beergut]

Aug 27, 2015 18:30:13 GMT -5 milee said:

Aug 27, 2015 18:06:46 GMT -5 beergut said:

And the school responded by isolating her, refusing to remove the rapist from her classes/study periods, forcing her to change her schedule, and eventually cutting her scholarship and forcing her out of school.

Meanwhile, they kept the rapist in school and on scholarship in the hopes that he would beat the rap and they could get him on the football field. They allowed him to graduate and receive a degree, while they chased his victim out of school. 

Oh, well that makes sense then. It's good training for how many companies handle sexual harassment, especially when it originates with a valued male "rainmaker" or even just one that's higher up in the ranks. 

And what you describe about a school shutting down a complaining girl so that their star athlete isn't compromised is exactly what happened at FSU. And countless other high schools, colleges and pro sports leagues...

I call Jameis Winston "Famous Rapist". The fact that he went #1 in the NFL Draft just floors me.

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Aug 27, 2015 18:50:21 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

Aug 27, 2015 18:06:46 GMT -5 beergut said:

And the school responded by isolating her, refusing to remove the rapist from her classes/study periods, forcing her to change her schedule, and eventually cutting her scholarship and forcing her out of school.

Meanwhile, they kept the rapist in school and on scholarship in the hopes that he would beat the rap and they could get him on the football field. They allowed him to graduate and receive a degree, while they chased his victim out of school. 

Football field says it all.

I hope she can salvage her life into something spectacular.

 On the positive side, she is at another university playing on their soccer team. She played extensively last season, and they won the conference title. 

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Aug 27, 2015 18:08:39 GMT -5 beergut said:

Aug 27, 2015 9:35:58 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

1. it's kind of hard to Google something you don't know exists.
2. the first mention of it that I heard was approximately 72 hours ago. 
3. Right now, it's competing with the Duggar shit.  It SHOULD have been reported over a year ago. 
4. I really don't follow college football.  NFL, you betcha.  College football leaves me cold.  Around Dec. I'll be checking in with the Badgers to see how their season went/is going. 

This should be a bigger story than Duggar, imo. So, pedophile is caught trying to cheat on his wife, big deal. 

This is a school covering up a rape and trying to get the rapist back onto the field of competition, while they ran his victim out of the school. The Baylor rape case is about more than sports, just like the Steubenville rape case was only tangentially related to sports. 

Baylor isn't the first school that this has happened at, and it likely won't be the last.  It happened at the last university I worked at too...about 6 years ago, but I really doubt that you heard about it.  However, it was all over the local news in that state.  In that case, someone got paid off and the rapist went on to play ball.

Not saying it is right.  For Baylor, it is a bit more hypocritical considering its religious element.  But for college sports....not unusual.

[Artemis Windsong]

Read a headline that said perp was found guilty.

[tcu2003]

Aug 28, 2015 13:40:05 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

Read a headline that said perp was found guilty.

He was. But there's a big "he said" / "he said" going on between the Baylor coach and the former Boise State coach about whether Baylor's coach new of the potential problems/character issues the student athlete had before the transfer. And everything Baylor did after the arrest, before charges were brought and after charges were brought is still shady.

[beergut]

Aug 28, 2015 10:50:47 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Aug 27, 2015 18:08:39 GMT -5 beergut said:

This should be a bigger story than Duggar, imo. So, pedophile is caught trying to cheat on his wife, big deal. 

This is a school covering up a rape and trying to get the rapist back onto the field of competition, while they ran his victim out of the school. The Baylor rape case is about more than sports, just like the Steubenville rape case was only tangentially related to sports. 

Baylor isn't the first school that this has happened at, and it likely won't be the last.  It happened at the last university I worked at too...about 6 years ago, but I really doubt that you heard about it.  However, it was all over the local news in that state.  In that case, someone got paid off and the rapist went on to play ball.

Not saying it is right.  For Baylor, it is a bit more hypocritical considering its religious element.  But for college sports....not unusual.

I know it isn't the first time this has happened, hell, this is the second time Baylor has had a defensive end arrested for rape in the last 3 years. Tevin Elliott was a serial rapist who was convicted in 2013, he is currently doing 20 years. He raped 4 girls that we know about. 

[beergut]

Aug 28, 2015 14:15:37 GMT -5 tcu2003 said:

Aug 28, 2015 13:40:05 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

Read a headline that said perp was found guilty.

He was. But there's a big "he said" / "he said" going on between the Baylor coach and the former Boise State coach about whether Baylor's coach new of the potential problems/character issues the student athlete had before the transfer. And everything Baylor did after the arrest, before charges were brought and after charges were brought is still shady.

Baylor wants everyone to focus on what happened at Boise State and make that the story. They don't want anyone to talk about what happened AFTER he arrived on campus, when he raped a fellow student-athlete, and then the school and football program did nothing but cover everything up. 

[beergut]

Aug 28, 2015 21:27:52 GMT -5 @tbird said:

crap! 6 months Are you kidding me?

Victim's father said he is satisfied with the criminal sentence, believe it or not.

They are now in touch with a Title IX lawyer, and are preparing to sue the university, as they should. 

[zibazinski]

Glad victim's father is satisfied. I wonder if victim is? I'd hate to be a cop in Tallahassee. Between FSU and A and M, you'd do nothing else.