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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 1, 2016 12:32:04 GMT -5
Paul said : I was at Sunrise (Ft. Lauderdale), Jacksonville, and Kissimmee. They were not hotel conference rooms. Trump had to move AZ to a larger venue. The 1,000 person room you are referring to was a one-off event having to do with the fine print in the agreement and there was 8,000 overflow.dj said: i would go, if he ever shows up here. of course, i was the guy who went to the Extreme Elvis show, and Dread Zeppelin (a band that plays reggae covers of Zep tunes with an Elvis impersonator on lead vocals), even though i don't particularly like Elvis. but i love me a spectacle. bring it on!!!!! the less worried i am about him as a presidential candidate, the more i want to go.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 1, 2016 12:32:53 GMT -5
All we need to knw is that he has great immigration policies...the greatest ever.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 1, 2016 12:33:39 GMT -5
... he is clearly in over his head. he has no coherent ideas- nothing practical. just nationalistic fantasies. True enough, but what percentage of the voters want that nationalistic fantasy instead of a coherent policy? That is what makes me nervous.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 1, 2016 12:34:26 GMT -5
Does Trump even know that vast areas of the border will not accommodate a wall? does he know that a great number of "illegals" arrive here via air? Does he know that in the last few years, we've had more Mexicans LEAVE our country rather than 'flood across the borders' into it?
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 1, 2016 12:34:40 GMT -5
does he know that a great number of "illegals" arrive here via air? The wall will be high and huuuge. Don't forget beautiful also.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Sept 1, 2016 12:36:46 GMT -5
Yes beautiful and built by under paid illegals.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 1, 2016 12:36:49 GMT -5
... he is clearly in over his head. he has no coherent ideas- nothing practical. just nationalistic fantasies. True enough, but what percentage of the voters want that nationalistic fantasy instead of a coherent policy? That is what makes me nervous. i share your anxiety. i think the answer is about 40%, which is about 10x what it "should" be. i am starting to really love Walter Lippmann.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 1, 2016 12:37:45 GMT -5
does he know that a great number of "illegals" arrive here via air? Does he know that in the last few years, we've had more Mexicans LEAVE our country rather than 'flood across the borders' into it?
i don't think he knows it, because he doesn't believe it. he has all kinds of irrational beliefs. we have known that since the birther craziness.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 1, 2016 13:55:57 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 1, 2016 14:13:59 GMT -5
i read that book cover to cover in 2003. i found it very unnerving. it punctured my idealism, and it has been slowly leaking ever since.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 1, 2016 15:12:27 GMT -5
if this is any indication, i would say he is done for: Ann Coulter ✔ @anncoulter
I hear Churchill had a nice turn of phrase, but Trump's immigration speech is the most magnificent speech ever given. 7:25 PM - 31 Aug 2016 Ann Coulter thinks his speech was better than any Churchill ever gave, but half of Trumps Hispanic Advisory board is quitting.
One says he doesn't want to be part of a 'scam.'
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-hispanic-leaders-arizona-immigration-227615
Well, I guess we know how important Hispanics are to Trump, so I guess he won't care.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 1, 2016 15:30:49 GMT -5
Paul said : I was at Sunrise (Ft. Lauderdale), Jacksonville, and Kissimmee. They were not hotel conference rooms. Trump had to move AZ to a larger venue. The 1,000 person room you are referring to was a one-off event having to do with the fine print in the agreement and there was 8,000 overflow.
We all know about the poster and his keen eye for actual folks attending Trump events. The poster was also (allegedly) at the Donald Trump Mobile Alabama, Ladd-Peebles football stadium (seating 43,000 people) event. We all know what the poster said about how many people were in attendance. To paraphrase his post: "The stadium was full and just as many people were outside the stadium wanting to get in."
Pictures don't lie.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 1, 2016 17:34:05 GMT -5
if this is any indication, i would say he is done for: Ann Coulter ✔ @anncoulter
I hear Churchill had a nice turn of phrase, but Trump's immigration speech is the most magnificent speech ever given. 7:25 PM - 31 Aug 2016 Ann Coulter thinks his speech was better than any Churchill ever gave, but half of Trumps Hispanic Advisory board is quitting.
One says he doesn't want to be part of a 'scam.'
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-hispanic-leaders-arizona-immigration-227615
Well, I guess we know how important Hispanics are to Trump, so I guess he won't care.
But...but...he was photographed with a Taco Bowl! How can that be?
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Post by dezailoooooo on Sept 2, 2016 22:06:47 GMT -5
All we need to knw is that he has great immigration policies...the greatest ever. with out the immigrants..just about from the get go,,beyond Plymouth..james town...the country as we know it doesn't exhist. It seems as if decendents of earlier immigrants say mid to late 1800's feel they are superior to those who came later..if they came from say ireland..so many because of the potato famine , and were greeted by signs off "Irish wanted" and worse..or eastern europe..the same. that they came legally is just by chance..country was welcoming them ....truth is the Donald is out of place today since illegals for the most part are not entering in great #'s today..actually in many cases more are going home then entering...the illegals are important in our food trades...poultry raising,slautering..same as in animal slautering...raising and harvesting of crops...all menial jobs... I was in hospital / rehab overeight weeks....my care givers were all from the islands..so many outstanding..some adequate..some not very good...but thank g-d for their being there...were they legal ? I believe so..worked for major corporation but if u think I cared one way or another..forget it. There are bigger problems facing us them illegals...and as far as feeling the country is weaker as the Donald claims ..going down hill,,needing to come back? Such BS that is..Those who feel that way if not actual the losers of our society..granted that is to harsh and many have been dealt wrong hands, whether factories closing..moving overseas...but many too have not put the time in to educate themselves adequatly for todays economies in the states.. Should penalties have been levied on those companies who packed up full stock and barrel to move overseas then bring product back to states to sell to their own old employees? Absolutly..same thing that profits made overseas and parked in off shore banks should be taxed when brought back home for new factories..but not at usery rates as they are today.. ..commonsense should be in vogue..something that escapes us as one of the major political parties continues to pander to demi gods as their leader and their legislators ..their big claim to fame is their continuing to lay claim to the word no. The other side is not blameless..they could have been more foregiving and cooperative when they controlled both houses and the executive branch...but for most of us..both sides..the Donald is a embarressment..did not have to be..hopefully after Nov 8th we won't face such a farce for a very long time. j[--town..the country as it is , doesn't exhist
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Post by tallguy on Sept 2, 2016 22:32:28 GMT -5
Like the bumper sticker I saw yesterday:
Vote Democratic -------------------- We're Not Perfect But They're Nuts
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Post by dezailoooooo on Sept 3, 2016 9:52:33 GMT -5
Like the bumper sticker I saw yesterday: Vote Democratic -------------------- We're Not Perfect But They're Nuts ooohhhhh...love it , want one....oh, forgot..not driving anymore...wheel chair maybe...?
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 3, 2016 10:37:24 GMT -5
Like the bumper sticker I saw yesterday: Vote Democratic -------------------- We're Not Perfect But They're Nuts ooohhhhh...love it , want one....oh, forgot..not driving anymore...wheel chair maybe...? You have a warning 'Coming Thru-Out Of My Way' horn on that thing?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 3, 2016 13:32:29 GMT -5
Like the bumper sticker I saw yesterday: Vote Democratic -------------------- We're Not Perfect But They're Nuts That, in a nutshell, is why I still count myself a Democrat. i think Maine is quite interesting this year. i doubt Trump has much of a chance, but he has had some favorable polling. the same people that elected LePaige TWICE will come out for him. how many more?
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Post by dezailoooooo on Sept 3, 2016 14:53:06 GMT -5
ooohhhhh...love it , want one....oh, forgot..not driving anymore...wheel chair maybe...? You have a warning 'Coming Thru-Out Of My Way' horn on that thing? actually Tenn I have two of them..one a heavy one with large wheels I can move around myself in the house...don't use much unless in kitchen..standing to long..if get tired will use a bit and second one is much lighter..my care giver will push me a bit and easy to put in car ..[trunk]...I am not able to move around in it my self..usually will use to get to doctors office..longer distance..shorter , I will walk myself..with help from hemi walker...
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 3, 2016 20:03:32 GMT -5
i think Maine is quite interesting this year. i doubt Trump has much of a chance, but he has had some favorable polling. the same people that elected LePaige TWICE will come out for him. how many more? He doesn't have a chance in the First District. I don't think he will win in the north either, but he does have a chance by the numbers. The only way that embarrassment of a governor got elected was because the vote was badly split three ways, but you are right, the dingbats that like LePage will vote Trump. actually, the more i look at this, it is really only one poll that has him ahead (three polls by the same agency), and Clinton's numbers have come up with every revision. it seems like i would be playing low odds to bet on him. keep us posted? PS: any chance of impeachment? i hear he is basically a shut-in now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 21:04:36 GMT -5
Like the bumper sticker I saw yesterday: Vote Democratic -------------------- We're Not Perfect But They're Nuts I could believe that bumper sticker only if they hadn't been nutty enough to crown Hillary their reigning champion for a seat in the White House. If they'd've voted her to be queen of 'The Big House'... my feelings might be different. Both sides are Nuts. Democrats AND Republicans.
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Post by tallguy on Sept 3, 2016 21:31:16 GMT -5
Whatever you or anyone else thinks about her personally, she is at least qualified and will take the job seriously. She is thus MILES ahead of Trump on both counts. She's not perfect, but she's not nuts. Trump is, as are those who are setting aside both logic and reason to support him. Props to those Republicans who are setting aside party interests to put national interests first in working against him. Some will vote for Hillary, some won't. But they know that they can't vote for Trump. He has been described as a "unique danger" and "a disaster waiting to happen" among other things. I can't imagine what it truly says about this country if over 40% of the voting public believes this narcissistic blowhard could make ANYTHING better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 22:48:12 GMT -5
Whatever you or anyone else thinks about her personally, she is at least qualified and will take the job seriously. She is thus MILES ahead of Trump on both counts. She's not perfect, but she's not nuts. Trump is, as are those who are setting aside both logic and reason to support him. Props to those Republicans who are setting aside party interests to put national interests first in working against him. Some will vote for Hillary, some won't. But they know that they can't vote for Trump. He has been described as a "unique danger" and "a disaster waiting to happen" among other things. I can't imagine what it truly says about this country if over 40% of the voting public believes this narcissistic blowhard could make ANYTHING better. That's just it... she's NOT qualified. She's no more qualified than Trump is.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Sept 3, 2016 23:06:48 GMT -5
Whatever you or anyone else thinks about her personally, she is at least qualified and will take the job seriously. She is thus MILES ahead of Trump on both counts. She's not perfect, but she's not nuts. Trump is, as are those who are setting aside both logic and reason to support him. Props to those Republicans who are setting aside party interests to put national interests first in working against him. Some will vote for Hillary, some won't. But they know that they can't vote for Trump. He has been described as a "unique danger" and "a disaster waiting to happen" among other things. I can't imagine what it truly says about this country if over 40% of the voting public believes this narcissistic blowhard could make ANYTHING better. couldn't have said it any better beyond the fact that for what ever reason..I am not worried ,[ beyond what others might do while she is in office..see things like 9/11..a osama type, financial world collapse, deadly disease outbreak, terrorist mass destruction attack and such...]....about Hillery being top dog...as far as the bad things mentioned , there I would have concerns no matter who is in office. I really want a level headed individual in that chair...someone like Kennedy..Bay of Pigs..all his people, experts, military, Bobby too..calling for invasion...[We found out when soviet Union collapsed and they were talking to us..there were not only stratigic Nucs there..[ the big ones] but also the tacticle ones too]..used in the field..troop concentrations..ships together in invasion formation and Castro was willing to use before he allowed his over throw..] estimated 60 million UPS casualties..forgetting no more Soviet union and who knows what in Europe... but his level headed response..paraphrasing.. "Lets try a blockade first folks..we can always committ suicide..that option always with us.."\ thats the type of POTUS I want in that round office... I do remember that time..my uncles, Dad being very up tight..all combat vets of ww2...Dad , third army..Patton..uncles , Phillipines..Europe..
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Post by tallguy on Sept 3, 2016 23:42:03 GMT -5
Whatever you or anyone else thinks about her personally, she is at least qualified and will take the job seriously. She is thus MILES ahead of Trump on both counts. She's not perfect, but she's not nuts. Trump is, as are those who are setting aside both logic and reason to support him. Props to those Republicans who are setting aside party interests to put national interests first in working against him. Some will vote for Hillary, some won't. But they know that they can't vote for Trump. He has been described as a "unique danger" and "a disaster waiting to happen" among other things. I can't imagine what it truly says about this country if over 40% of the voting public believes this narcissistic blowhard could make ANYTHING better. That's just it... she's NOT qualified. She's no more qualified than Trump is. Your dislike is clouding your judgment. Donald Trump is the worst, most unqualified, most "unsuited-to-the-position" candidate that has been put forth by any major party at least in our lifetimes. If my knowledge of U.S. history between the Civil War and World War II extended further into losing presidential candidates I'm sure that statement could also be extended into that time frame as well. And not only is he a horrible candidate, he doesn't even want the job! Or at least doesn't want to be bothered with the details of actually doing it. When Trump began talking about his run, he was generally considered a joke candidate. He should still be. He offers zero substance, and zero real thought. I don't want the joke to be on us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 1:55:34 GMT -5
That's just it... she's NOT qualified. She's no more qualified than Trump is. Your dislike is clouding your judgment. Donald Trump is the worst, most unqualified, most "unsuited-to-the-position" candidate that has been put forth by any major party at least in our lifetimes. If my knowledge of U.S. history between the Civil War and World War II extended further into losing presidential candidates I'm sure that statement could also be extended into that time frame as well. And not only is he a horrible candidate, he doesn't even want the job! Or at least doesn't want to be bothered with the details of actually doing it. When Trump began talking about his run, he was generally considered a joke candidate. He should still be. He offers zero substance, and zero real thought. I don't want the joke to be on us. Bolded: Correction --- Your dislike of Trump is clouding your judgement (and you show that dislike in the rest of this very post)... otherwise you wouldn't see her as a viable candidate either. You'd be in the same boat as I am... liking neither of them and wanting neither of them... but understanding that Trump is just a smidgen less bad than Hillary. It's still like the decision of "would you rather be stabbed or shot?" though. In a perfect world NEITHER would happen... Underlined: Donald is actually second worst. The honor of Worst in that category is reserved for Hillary Clinton.
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Post by tallguy on Sept 4, 2016 2:02:50 GMT -5
If any of that is true then why do so many Republican leaders and officials agree with me? The man has to be pretty far gone to have so many in his own party repudiate his candidacy. Doubly so considering the current polarization in the system.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 4, 2016 2:06:10 GMT -5
Clinton is clearly qualified for the position. some have argued she is the most qualified candidate of our generation. anyone claiming otherwise is not being objective, or using standards that are not generally used for evaluating presidents. aka making shit up.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 4, 2016 8:58:19 GMT -5
Your dislike is clouding your judgment. Donald Trump is the worst, most unqualified, most "unsuited-to-the-position" candidate that has been put forth by any major party at least in our lifetimes. If my knowledge of U.S. history between the Civil War and World War II extended further into losing presidential candidates I'm sure that statement could also be extended into that time frame as well. And not only is he a horrible candidate, he doesn't even want the job! Or at least doesn't want to be bothered with the details of actually doing it. When Trump began talking about his run, he was generally considered a joke candidate. He should still be. He offers zero substance, and zero real thought. I don't want the joke to be on us. Except you weren't talking about Donald Trump, you were talking about Hillary Clinton. And Hillary is most certainly not qualified to run the country. She wasn't qualified in her previous job which is why she got fired. Does giving away state secrets, ambassadors dead because of faulty judgement, etc... From what job was Hillary Clinton fired?
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Post by tallguy on Sept 4, 2016 9:15:30 GMT -5
Your dislike is clouding your judgment. Donald Trump is the worst, most unqualified, most "unsuited-to-the-position" candidate that has been put forth by any major party at least in our lifetimes. If my knowledge of U.S. history between the Civil War and World War II extended further into losing presidential candidates I'm sure that statement could also be extended into that time frame as well. And not only is he a horrible candidate, he doesn't even want the job! Or at least doesn't want to be bothered with the details of actually doing it. When Trump began talking about his run, he was generally considered a joke candidate. He should still be. He offers zero substance, and zero real thought. I don't want the joke to be on us. Except you weren't talking about Donald Trump, you were talking about Hillary Clinton. And Hillary is most certainly not qualified to run the country. She wasn't qualified in her previous job which is why she got fired. Does giving away state secrets, ambassadors dead because of faulty judgement, etc... Uh, no, I wasn't. But you go on believing and spouting right-wing talking points. It's certainly the easier path to take.
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