I was right: President Elect Trump

[djAdvocate]

Aug 26, 2015 21:00:08 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Trump is becoming more imperial like Vladimir Putin by the day.

he actually reminds me a lot of Putin.  a LOT.  i think he is an top down authoritarian, and i really dislike that personality type.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 26, 2015 22:42:44 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

Lol! "China took our jobs?" You clown, you're GIVING China your jobs! Christ, what an ass!

Right?! I wonder if any reporters have gone to Trump tower to see how many illegals he's currently employing as hotel maids, dishwashers, lanscapers, etc? I'm betting it's a chunk.

Of course the conservative lamestream media won't cover something like that. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, just listen to his pretty words, vote like we want you to, and watch nothing change.

the worse they make government work, the better it becomes for corporations.

[dondub]

Ahhhh the point that you have no clue about history nor an ability to read signatures

That's not quite it but keep fumbling away. You're getting closer.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 25, 2015 19:25:10 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oh, it's not bogus. You wish that it were, but it's not. Obama, Hilldebeast, Bill, Warren, Sanders-- there's not a bit of daylight between them ideologically.

I'm specifically referring to the link that explains Hillary's secret thesis wherein she is less than supportive of Alinsky and his methods versus your bogus claim that she is an Alinskyite. You wish it weren't bogus but it is, which is in keeping with a certain percentage of your postings as readily pointed out by the numerous intelligent people here.

I'm also quite positive that Bill, Obama, Sanders, and Warren were not part of my response to your phony Alinsky smear, a long time tactic of the extremist rightwing element in America.

Are you saying that she expressed some disdain for Cloward-Piven, and was more of a "Weather Underground" kind of girl?  

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Donald Trump is a business man. He uses the most profitable business model available to him.  It is not Donald Trump giving our jobs to the Chinese, it is our politicians doing that through bad policy which makes the United States less competitive.  Donald Trump supporters are not stupid.  They're fed up, they're angry, but they're not idiots. That is why the constant droning on about his suits being made (in Mexico was the first claim) wherever are falling flat.  It's well understood why he does this.  What he's proposing is a combination of policy- first, that would make the US more competitive as a place to do business by slashing the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world and removing disincentives to repatriating money earned overseas, and removing incentives for companies to manufacture, process, or assemble products overseas.  Do you realize, there's even talk of sending chickens to China for processing and re-importation to the US?  The same people that killed our dogs, are now going to process our chicken?  No, Donald is on to something here and it's more deeply rooted than mere "populism".  People understand there's a fundamental problem with US policy that requires corrective action.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

www.peoplespunditdaily.com/polls/2015/08/25/gravis-donald-trump-soars-to-40-in-national-republican-nomination-poll/

Gravis: Donald Trump Soars to 40% in National Republican Nomination Poll

In the latest national Republican nomination poll conducted by Gravis Marking for One America News Network, frontrunner Donald Trump has hit the 40% mark. The survey marks the first time since any candidate–let alone the real estate mogul–has broken above the so-called 30% ceiling pundits have pegged him at.

“It’s surprising to see how fast Donald Trump has moved up in the polls since the debate,” Robert Herring, Sr., CEO of One America News Network said in a statement. “Claims by media that Trump peaked in July have proven to be false.”

The Donald’s support has increased nearly 10 percentage points in the crowded GOP field since the previous survey released July 31. Dr. Ben Carson, another political outsider in the race who won the Post GOP Debate Poll conducted by Gravis/OANN, as reported by PPD, has increased 7 points and moved into second with 13.0%.

[happyhoix]

I saw a poll that Trump is gaining with conservative evangelicals, which surprises me.

Trump previously made a lot of pro-choice statements, and in an interview this weekend, while claiming the Bible was his favorite book, couldn't quote anything from it, gave a mush mouth response on whether he liked the old or new testament best, and brushed it all off by saying 'religion is personal.' Came off, to me,  like he was perfectly clueless about the Bible and only saying what he thought he needed to say to court the religious right.

With someone as religious as Huckabee in the race, it's surprising to me that Trump garners any support at all from the devoutly Christian side.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 27, 2015 6:59:08 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I saw a poll that Trump is gaining with conservative evangelicals, which surprises me.

Trump previously made a lot of pro-choice statements, and in an interview this weekend, while claiming the Bible was his favorite book, couldn't quote anything from it, gave a mush mouth response on whether he liked the old or new testament best, and brushed it all off by saying 'religion is personal.' Came off, to me,  like he was perfectly clueless about the Bible and only saying what he thought he needed to say to court the religious right.

With someone as religious as Huckabee in the race, it's surprising to me that Trump garners any support at all from the devoutly Christian side.

That does surprise me.  Most conservative evangelicals I know are split between Huckabee and Cruz- though more seem to be leaning Cruz because of his resume-- which is astonishing.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 27, 2015 6:59:08 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I saw a poll that Trump is gaining with conservative evangelicals, which surprises me.

Trump previously made a lot of pro-choice statements, and in an interview this weekend, while claiming the Bible was his favorite book, couldn't quote anything from it, gave a mush mouth response on whether he liked the old or new testament best, and brushed it all off by saying 'religion is personal.' Came off, to me,  like he was perfectly clueless about the Bible and only saying what he thought he needed to say to court the religious right.

With someone as religious as Huckabee in the race, it's surprising to me that Trump garners any support at all from the devoutly Christian side.

I've never read "War and Peace" but I would agree that it is one of the great books of all time.

[Wisconsin Beth]

Aug 27, 2015 9:59:25 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Aug 27, 2015 6:59:08 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I saw a poll that Trump is gaining with conservative evangelicals, which surprises me.

Trump previously made a lot of pro-choice statements, and in an interview this weekend, while claiming the Bible was his favorite book, couldn't quote anything from it, gave a mush mouth response on whether he liked the old or new testament best, and brushed it all off by saying 'religion is personal.' Came off, to me,  like he was perfectly clueless about the Bible and only saying what he thought he needed to say to court the religious right.

With someone as religious as Huckabee in the race, it's surprising to me that Trump garners any support at all from the devoutly Christian side.

I've never read "War and Peace" but I would agree that it is one of the great books of all time.

I believe there's a difference between Great Books and Favorite Books.  Favorite, to me, is personal.  Great, again to me, is speaking about the actual literature.  I read and enjoy a lot of books that are not going to ever qualify as Great Books. 

ETA - one of my all time favorite books is the 600+ page version of Swiss Family Robinson. 

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Would you call it your favorite and suggest you build your spirituality/beliefs upon it?

[Wisconsin Beth]

I thought this was interesting.  I know Paul doesn't approve of the source but too bad. 

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/08/donald_trump_s_anti_lobbying_rhetoric_is_actually_kind_of_genius.html

There’s almost no chance that Trump or his team has read Greenberg. But if Greenberg is right—and millions of Americans are open to an explicit message against the wealthy donors and fundraisers that dominate American politics—then Trump’s message of financial independence could be his key to a broader constituency.

Public opinion bears this out. According to a June poll from CBS News and the New York Times, 84 percent of Americans say money has “too much influence” in American elections. And 39 percent want “fundamental” changes in our system for funding political campaigns, while 46 percent say it needs complete rebuilding. Republicans terrified of a third-party Trump candidacy should consider this, as well: 58 percent of Americans say that both parties benefit equally from the vast amount of money in political campaigns.

Who better to stop special interests and wealthy corporations than a rich man who doesn’t need their money, who isn’t beholden to either party, and is ready to drive the hardest deal possible? Who better, to millions of disaffected Americans, than Trump?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 27, 2015 10:08:30 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

Aug 27, 2015 9:59:25 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I've never read "War and Peace" but I would agree that it is one of the great books of all time.

I believe there's a difference between Great Books and Favorite Books.  Favorite, to me, is personal.  Great, again to me, is speaking about the actual literature.  I read and enjoy a lot of books that are not going to ever qualify as Great Books. 

ETA - one of my all time favorite books is the 600+ page version of Swiss Family Robinson. 

Fair point. And I agree-- he's blowing smoke about liking the Bible.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 27, 2015 5:30:04 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

www.peoplespunditdaily.com/polls/2015/08/25/gravis-donald-trump-soars-to-40-in-national-republican-nomination-poll/

Gravis: Donald Trump Soars to 40% in National Republican Nomination Poll

In the latest national Republican nomination poll conducted by Gravis Marking for One America News Network, frontrunner Donald Trump has hit the 40% mark. The survey marks the first time since any candidate–let alone the real estate mogul–has broken above the so-called 30% ceiling pundits have pegged him at.

“It’s surprising to see how fast Donald Trump has moved up in the polls since the debate,” Robert Herring, Sr., CEO of One America News Network said in a statement. “Claims by media that Trump peaked in July have proven to be false.”

The Donald’s support has increased nearly 10 percentage points in the crowded GOP field since the previous survey released July 31. Dr. Ben Carson, another political outsider in the race who won the Post GOP Debate Poll conducted by Gravis/OANN, as reported by PPD, has increased 7 points and moved into second with 13.0%.

Gravis is ALSO a legit poll. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 27, 2015 11:34:06 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Aug 27, 2015 5:30:04 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

www.peoplespunditdaily.com/polls/2015/08/25/gravis-donald-trump-soars-to-40-in-national-republican-nomination-poll/

Gravis is ALSO a legit poll. 

Is that sarcasm? I don't know who they are.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 25, 2015 19:28:52 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Aug 25, 2015 19:12:11 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Any thoughts on how reliable PPP polling is?

honestly, i don't care about Trump.  i think he is interesting, as a candidate.  colorful, different.

but i DO like this poll much better.  PPP is legit.  i found it quite interesting that Kasich came in second in this one.  i believe that Carson was second in SC, and Bush in THIRD.  both of these polls were very bad for Bush.

NOTE: NH is kindof a dumb state to pay attention to, imo, as the demographics are not that like the US in general.  NC, NV, and FL are way better.

I think he leads Florida because he's the populist national candidate and there are two native Floridians in the race splitting the vote.  I'm extremely curious about how he would stack up head to head against Rubio or Bush?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Could Trump unite more than the Republican base?  It seems he has much broader appeal.  Interesting read:

Meet The Liberals Who Love Trump
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/meet-the-liberals-who-love-trump-121733.html#.Vd9JyPlViko

“Donald Trump is the biggest gift to the movement for reform since the Supreme Court gave us Citizens United,” said Lessig in a recent interview, referring to the court decision that riled up liberals by granting essentially unlimited campaign contributions from corporate entities. “What he’s saying is absolutely correct, the absolute truth. He has pulled back the curtain.”

As pundits search for the source of Trump’s resilient appeal, reformers say they’ve long known the answer: the constant emphasis on how his staggering wealth immunizes him from insider influence. It has arguably now become the campaign’s most salient theme. “I don’t need anybody’s money. I’m using my own money,” Trump scoffed at his campaign announcement in June. A month later, he told the Wall Street Journal, “When you give [contributions], they do whatever the hell you want them to do.” And primary voters seem spellbound. “The guys who want to give me a million—I said, forget it. Who cares?” Trump recently told a rapt audience. “All of the money that’s going to Hillary, and Jeb, and Scott and Marco? They’re totally controlled. Totally.”

[weltschmerz]

Aug 27, 2015 5:25:09 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Donald Trump is a business man. He uses the most profitable business model available to him.  It is not Donald Trump giving our jobs to the Chinese, it is our politicians doing that through bad policy which makes the United States less competitive.  Donald Trump supporters are not stupid.  They're fed up, they're angry, but they're not idiots. That is why the constant droning on about his suits being made (in Mexico was the first claim) wherever are falling flat.  It's well understood why he does this.  What he's proposing is a combination of policy- first, that would make the US more competitive as a place to do business by slashing the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world and removing disincentives to repatriating money earned overseas, and removing incentives for companies to manufacture, process, or assemble products overseas.  Do you realize, there's even talk of sending chickens to China for processing and re-importation to the US?  The same people that killed our dogs, are now going to process our chicken?  No, Donald is on to something here and it's more deeply rooted than mere "populism".  People understand there's a fundamental problem with US policy that requires corrective action.

Yes, they are. I post with many of them on another board. They're alarmingly stupid. Stupid is an understatement.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 27, 2015 13:03:38 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Aug 27, 2015 5:25:09 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Donald Trump is a business man. He uses the most profitable business model available to him.  It is not Donald Trump giving our jobs to the Chinese, it is our politicians doing that through bad policy which makes the United States less competitive.  Donald Trump supporters are not stupid.  They're fed up, they're angry, but they're not idiots. That is why the constant droning on about his suits being made (in Mexico was the first claim) wherever are falling flat.  It's well understood why he does this.  What he's proposing is a combination of policy- first, that would make the US more competitive as a place to do business by slashing the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world and removing disincentives to repatriating money earned overseas, and removing incentives for companies to manufacture, process, or assemble products overseas.  Do you realize, there's even talk of sending chickens to China for processing and re-importation to the US?  The same people that killed our dogs, are now going to process our chicken?  No, Donald is on to something here and it's more deeply rooted than mere "populism".  People understand there's a fundamental problem with US policy that requires corrective action.

Yes, they are. I post with many of them on another board. They're alarmingly stupid. Stupid is an understatement.

The low information voters don't even know that there's an election cycle coming yet.  People paying attention this early have certain beliefs you may disagree with, but it's dangerous to assume people with whom you disagree can be dismissed as "stupid".  This is the mistake the circular firing squad on the right is making.  The should take note of what Rush said yesterday, because he's right: "So it's a natural protective circle the wagons kind of thing the establishment's doing. In the process, what they always do, when something happens like this they don't understand, they blame all of it on stupidity and anger on the part of their own voters. It ends up their own voters are stupid and mad and they run around and they actually say so. Now, why they think down the road sometime these voters are gonna change their mind and leave Trump or whoever and come back to them after they've been insulted this way makes no sense to me. It makes no common sense."

[Opti]

Aug 27, 2015 12:35:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Could Trump unite more than the Republican base?  It seems he has much broader appeal.  Interesting read:

Meet The Liberals Who Love Trump
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/meet-the-liberals-who-love-trump-121733.html#.Vd9JyPlViko

“Donald Trump is the biggest gift to the movement for reform since the Supreme Court gave us Citizens United,” said Lessig in a recent interview, referring to the court decision that riled up liberals by granting essentially unlimited campaign contributions from corporate entities. “What he’s saying is absolutely correct, the absolute truth. He has pulled back the curtain.”

As pundits search for the source of Trump’s resilient appeal, reformers say they’ve long known the answer: the constant emphasis on how his staggering wealth immunizes him from insider influence. It has arguably now become the campaign’s most salient theme. “I don’t need anybody’s money. I’m using my own money,” Trump scoffed at his campaign announcement in June. A month later, he told the Wall Street Journal, “When you give [contributions], they do whatever the hell you want them to do.” And primary voters seem spellbound. “The guys who want to give me a million—I said, forget it. Who cares?” Trump recently told a rapt audience. “All of the money that’s going to Hillary, and Jeb, and Scott and Marco? They’re totally controlled. Totally.”

I think people are smoking something if they actually believe that. Unless all your earnings are done or protected into a few venues, any rich person is beholden and dependent on the multiple sources from which their income flows. No one assumed Romney couldn't be bought because he was wealthy, yet someone developed this meme because it sells.

Does not mean it is true nor accurate. He can afford to piss some folks off, but his brand is too big too afford pissing lots of people off and for the $$ to keep rolling in.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

Net worth

In April 2011, amidst speculation whether Trump would run as a candidate in the U.S. presidential election of 2012, Politico quoted unnamed sources close to him stating that, if Trump should decide to run for president, he would file "financial disclosure statements that [would] show his net worth [was] in excess of $7 billion with more than $250 million of cash, and very little debt".[54] (Presidential candidates are required to disclose their finances after announcing their intentions to run.) Although Trump did not run as a candidate in the 2012 elections, his professionally prepared 2012 financial disclosure was published in his book stating a $7 billion net worth.[55]

Estimates of Trump's net worth have fluctuated along with real estate valuations: in 2015, Forbes pegged it as $4 billion,[2] while the Bloomberg Billionaires Index (which scrutinized Trump's FEC filings) estimated a net worth of $2.9 billion.[56] On June 16, 2015, just prior to announcing his candidacy for president of the United States, Trump released to the media a one-page prepared financial disclosure statement "from a big accounting firm—one of the most respected"[57] stating a net worth of $8,737,540,000.[58] "I'm really rich", Trump said.[57] Forbes called the nearly $9 billion figure a "100%" exaggeration.[59] In July 2015, the Federal election regulators released new details of Trump's wealth and financial holdings when he became a Republican presidential candidate, reporting that his assets are worth above $1.4 billion, which includes at least $70 million in stocks, and a debt of at least $265 million.[3][4]

Trump claimed in a July 2015 press release, one month after announcing his presidential run, that his "net worth is in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS".[4][60] However, Trump has said in the past that "my net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and with feelings—even my own feelings".[61] Forbes has said that although Trump "shares a lot of information with us that helps us get to the figures we publish", he "consistently pushes for a higher net worth—especially when it comes to the value of his personal brand."[59] Forbes reduced its estimate of Trump's net worth by $125 million following Trump's controversial 2015 remarks about Mexican immigrants, which ended Trump's business contracts with NBCUniversal, Univision, Macy's, Serta, PVH Corporation, and Perfumania.[62]

[weltschmerz]

Aug 27, 2015 13:09:41 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Aug 27, 2015 13:03:38 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Yes, they are. I post with many of them on another board. They're alarmingly stupid. Stupid is an understatement.

The low information voters don't even know that there's an election cycle coming yet.  People paying attention this early have certain beliefs you may disagree with, but it's dangerous to assume people with whom you disagree can be dismissed as "stupid".  This is the mistake the circular firing squad on the right is making.  The should take note of what Rush said yesterday, because he's right: "So it's a natural protective circle the wagons kind of thing the establishment's doing. In the process, what they always do, when something happens like this they don't understand, they blame all of it on stupidity and anger on the part of their own voters. It ends up their own voters are stupid and mad and they run around and they actually say so. Now, why they think down the road sometime these voters are gonna change their mind and leave Trump or whoever and come back to them after they've been insulted this way makes no sense to me. It makes no common sense."

You don't know these people.  They're unbelievably stupid.

[dondub]

Are you saying that she expressed some disdain for Cloward-Piven, and was more of a "Weather Underground" kind of girl?



You're not that good at reading between the lines as there was no there there.

What I was saying is that your calling her an Alinskyite was complete BS as easily discovered from factual sources versus rightwing waggery that smears and lumps in a vainglorious attempt to turn them all into 'Weather Underground' types. Not even a nice try.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 27, 2015 12:35:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Could Trump unite more than the Republican base?  It seems he has much broader appeal.  Interesting read:

Meet The Liberals Who Love Trump
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/meet-the-liberals-who-love-trump-121733.html#.Vd9JyPlViko

“Donald Trump is the biggest gift to the movement for reform since the Supreme Court gave us Citizens United,” said Lessig in a recent interview, referring to the court decision that riled up liberals by granting essentially unlimited campaign contributions from corporate entities. “What he’s saying is absolutely correct, the absolute truth. He has pulled back the curtain.”

As pundits search for the source of Trump’s resilient appeal, reformers say they’ve long known the answer: the constant emphasis on how his staggering wealth immunizes him from insider influence. It has arguably now become the campaign’s most salient theme. “I don’t need anybody’s money. I’m using my own money,” Trump scoffed at his campaign announcement in June. A month later, he told the Wall Street Journal, “When you give [contributions], they do whatever the hell you want them to do.” And primary voters seem spellbound. “The guys who want to give me a million—I said, forget it. Who cares?” Trump recently told a rapt audience. “All of the money that’s going to Hillary, and Jeb, and Scott and Marco? They’re totally controlled. Totally.”

there is a lot of POPULISM in liberalism.  to the extent Trump is POPULIST, he will appeal to liberals.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 27, 2015 14:15:40 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Aug 27, 2015 12:35:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Could Trump unite more than the Republican base?  It seems he has much broader appeal.  Interesting read:

there is a lot of POPULISM in liberalism.  to the extent Trump is POPULIST, he will appeal to liberals.

I wasn't thinking of campaign finance reform- frankly it's something for the wonky big government types in both parties. They might as well call it the incumbent protection bill-- which of course is why it was torpedoed by the court.

However, the political trend of our time- the biggest trend- is that the Democratic (do you like that?) Party, once the party of the working class has totally sold out the mainly white working class in favor of illegal immigrants and multi-national trade deals that frankly suck (and like immigration- I'm all for free trade).  Trump is going to appeal to the Reagan Democrats.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

The ultimate campaign finance reform is to simply shrink the influence of government to the point that it is not worth buying.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 27, 2015 11:57:37 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Aug 27, 2015 11:34:06 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Gravis is ALSO a legit poll. 

Is that sarcasm? I don't know who they are.

no.  i use the sarcasm emoji when i am being sarcastic.  i was being sincere.  Gravis is good.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 27, 2015 14:58:19 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Aug 27, 2015 14:15:40 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

there is a lot of POPULISM in liberalism.  to the extent Trump is POPULIST, he will appeal to liberals.

I wasn't thinking of campaign finance reform- frankly it's something for the wonky big government types in both parties. They might as well call it the incumbent protection bill-- which of course is why it was torpedoed by the court.

However, the political trend of our time- the biggest trend- is that the Democratic (do you like that?) Party, once the party of the working class has totally sold out the mainly white working class in favor of illegal immigrants and multi-national trade deals that frankly suck (and like immigration- I'm all for free trade).  Trump is going to appeal to the Reagan Democrats.

(thanks for the concession, and yes)

i agree with everything you just said.  Reagan was a POPULIST conservative, with some mild libertarian underpinnings.  it is a good combination.

[djAdvocate]

this thing is serious, btw.  Trump is +16% in the latest CNN poll.

Trump has been on top for one month now.  if it goes until November, he is going to be tough to beat in the primaries.

[billisonboard]

Aug 27, 2015 15:08:55 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Aug 27, 2015 11:57:37 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Is that sarcasm? I don't know who they are.

no.  i use the sarcasm emoji when i am being sarcastic.  i was being sincere.  Gravis is good.

If a "C" is good: fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

[Value Buy]

Aug 22, 2015 13:49:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Aug 22, 2015 13:37:42 GMT -5 kent said:

Regarding the size of the crowd. Did Trump actually say there would be 42,000 people attending or was it the unbiased media that said he did and he's delusional because nowhere near that number showed up.  Accordingly, this would PROVE to everyone he's not really that popular.

From what I heard, the original location was in some hotel ballroom or something that could only hold a few hundred and they called to tell the Trump people they couldn't handle the number of people that wanted to attend.

As a result, they scheduled another venue that could hold 10,000 people and, like the first place, it was too small as well so they changed the venue to the stadium which happens to hold around 42,000 people.

And because the setup at Ladd-Peebles Stadium for Trump's visit was concert style, and there is a crowd on the field like a concert, Trump clearly did not fill the stadium because Ladd-Peebles Stadium can hold 150,000 for concerts, folks on the field included.

Ladd-Peebles Stadium

Anyone catch Hillary's big big crowds?
She cannot fill a five thousand capacity gymnasium.
The media does not even bother to show the size of the crowd.
Even with her "hard hitting attacks" of Republicans and the war on women and backing Planned Parenthood clinics, she cannot fill a small gym these days.

Trump is doing just fine so far.