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Post by Pants on May 13, 2016 14:48:55 GMT -5
I agree with Happy for the most part. The segments of the population that tend to support Trump are people who are afraid/angry for one reason or another and long to have a president who will return them to the "good old days" whatever those might be to them. It's human nature to want to find a reason/cause for everything that appears to be going bad in the world/your life. Trump has figured out his target market perfectly by offering up a bounty of scapegoats for them to choose from with the promise he will make it all better. Not everyone who supports Trump thinks that, I agree with that too. My DH likes Trump because "he speaks his mind and tells it like it is". We can't discuss politics anymore because what I see is Trump isn't any different from any other politician. He's telling his target audience exactly what they want to hear. He's just a lot more crass and loudmouth about it. Your DH thinks Trump's racism and misogyny is "telling it like it is"? This may explain some things.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 13, 2016 15:33:44 GMT -5
100 pages!
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Post by Tennesseer on May 13, 2016 15:36:47 GMT -5
Donald 'Norman Bates' Trump. Bizarre. The spokesman who knows Trump best: HimselfThe voice is instantly familiar; the tone, confident, even cocky; the cadence, distinctly Trumpian. The man on the phone vigorously defending Donald Trump says he’s a media spokesman named John Miller, but then he says, “I’m sort of new here,” and “I’m somebody that he knows and I think somebody that he trusts and likes” and even “I’m going to do this a little, part-time, and then, yeah, go on with my life.” A recording obtained by The Washington Post captures what New York reporters and editors who covered Trump’s early career experienced in the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s: calls from Trump’s Manhattan office that resulted in conversations with “John Miller” or “John Barron” — public-relations men who sound precisely like Trump himself — who indeed are Trump, masquerading as an unusually helpful and boastful advocate for himself, according to the journalists and several of Trump’s top aides. The spokesman who knows Trump best: Himself
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on May 13, 2016 16:01:14 GMT -5
Trump has serious personality flaws. He's a narcissist and pathological liar. Can't be trust to run our country.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 14, 2016 21:05:25 GMT -5
Too funny!
Trump is reneging on all his promises and platforms, from "I'm going to build a wall....it's going to be YUGE!" to "I'm calling for a total and complete ban on Muslims!" to Obamacare mandates to H1B visas to minimum wage laws to taxes. He'd been lying through his teeth and his idiot supporters have lapped it all up. Now that he's obliterated all his GOP competition, the truth comes out. "Oh, those were nothing more than suggestions...I didn't really mean it.' He's like a guy hoping to get laid on a Saturday night, and the Trumpeters are like lonely and desperate old spinsters at the bar. "You're the most beautiful woman I've ever seen! Of course I'll still respect you in the morning. Of course I'll wear a condom. Of course I'll call you!" Then, just before daybreak, he slinks out with his shoes held in his tiny hands, leaving her a fake number to a pizzeria and a dose of chlamydia.
And THAT, boys and girls, is the Art of Deal! And they bought it, hook line and sinker. Lol, lol, lol!
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 7:27:18 GMT -5
Too funny!
He's like a guy hoping to get laid on a Saturday night, and the Trumpeters are like lonely and desperate old spinsters at the bar. "You're the most beautiful woman I've ever seen! Of course I'll still respect you in the morning. Of course I'll wear a condom. Of course I'll call you!" Then, just before daybreak, he slinks out with his shoes held in his tiny hands, leaving her a fake number to a pizzeria and a dose of chlamydia.
Lol, lol, lol! Maybe you should rethink those Saturday nights you go to the bar.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 15, 2016 12:03:02 GMT -5
Too funny!
He's like a guy hoping to get laid on a Saturday night, and the Trumpeters are like lonely and desperate old spinsters at the bar. "You're the most beautiful woman I've ever seen! Of course I'll still respect you in the morning. Of course I'll wear a condom. Of course I'll call you!" Then, just before daybreak, he slinks out with his shoes held in his tiny hands, leaving her a fake number to a pizzeria and a dose of chlamydia.
Lol, lol, lol! Maybe you should rethink those Saturday nights you go to the bar. Maybe YOU should start watching the news. He whipped his idiot followers into a frenzy with his PROMISES of a Muslim ban and a Wall. Whipped them into such a frenzy that all other GOP candidates had to drop out due to lack of interest. Now that he has the playing field all to himself, he admits they weren't promises at all....just suggestions. Leaving them holding the bag, because there's nobody else they can vote for.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 15, 2016 12:07:18 GMT -5
Evidently, the Art of the Deal consists of lying to get your own way.
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Post by tallguy on May 15, 2016 12:16:32 GMT -5
Well, of course. That is the Art to it. Otherwise it would just be a Deal.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 15, 2016 12:21:42 GMT -5
Maybe you should rethink those Saturday nights you go to the bar. Maybe YOU should start watching the news. He whipped his idiot followers into a frenzy with his PROMISES of a Muslim ban and a Wall. Whipped them into such a frenzy that all other GOP candidates had to drop out due to lack of interest. Now that he has the playing field all to himself, he admits they weren't promises at all....just suggestions. Leaving them holding the bag, because there's nobody else they can vote for.
but they will probably vote for him anyway, because he is the only one crazy enough to suggest such things.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 15, 2016 12:22:28 GMT -5
Evidently, the Art of the Deal consists of lying to get your own way. that's the thing about snake oil. once you bought it, there are no returns.
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Post by Opti on May 15, 2016 14:49:37 GMT -5
www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vp-shortlist-cruz-palin-152539923.html
Ben Carson says Donald Trump’s list of possible running mates includes some awfully familiar names for anyone who’s followed the 2016 presidential race: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 15, 2016 15:05:34 GMT -5
www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vp-shortlist-cruz-palin-152539923.html
Ben Carson says Donald Trump’s list of possible running mates includes some awfully familiar names for anyone who’s followed the 2016 presidential race: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Christie would be the most obvious choice, but i doubt he will use him in that capacity.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 15, 2016 18:02:01 GMT -5
www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vp-shortlist-cruz-palin-152539923.html
Ben Carson says Donald Trump’s list of possible running mates includes some awfully familiar names for anyone who’s followed the 2016 presidential race: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Christie would be the most obvious choice, but i doubt he will use him in that capacity.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 15, 2016 22:23:39 GMT -5
www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vp-shortlist-cruz-palin-152539923.html
Ben Carson says Donald Trump’s list of possible running mates includes some awfully familiar names for anyone who’s followed the 2016 presidential race: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Oooh, oooh, Palin please. it will be the funniest thing, EVER!
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Post by tallguy on May 15, 2016 22:34:07 GMT -5
And just maybe the cratering of two separate presidential aspirations will mean her removal from the public eye. We can hope, right?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 13:01:16 GMT -5
And just maybe the cratering of two separate presidential aspirations will mean her removal from the public eye. We can hope, right? What if Trump Palin won? I could see Trump being impeached for some reason or die in office. Clinton probably won't be indicted but if her emails were hacked they are out there somewhere. Someone could release something that does hurt her a week before the election. I know that she has weathered everything, so maybe she will weather everything to come.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 16, 2016 13:10:49 GMT -5
those that hate her will never vote for her.
those that are tired of the circus are going to vote for her no matter what, probably.
i don't honestly know the breakdown on the two camps. but i do know this:
these are very well known candidates, so people are somewhat unlikely to change their opinions of them.
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Post by dondub on May 16, 2016 13:47:02 GMT -5
I know that she has weathered everything, so maybe she will weather everything to come.
She has weathered nothing. She bailed on her Alaskan constituents and couldn't even finish 1 term. She bailed on 4 colleges before getting her degree. I see that as a history of NOT being able to weather anything. Not POTUS material in any way, shape, or form. In fact, it says a lot about the Tea Party movement that she has ever been considered anything at all other as the screechy, vacuous bimbo from the frozen tundra that she is.
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Post by tallguy on May 16, 2016 14:10:43 GMT -5
I know that she has weathered everything, so maybe she will weather everything to come.
She has weathered nothing. She bailed on her Alaskan constituents and couldn't even finish 1 term. She bailed on 4 colleges before getting her degree. I see that as a history of NOT being able to weather anything. Not POTUS material in any way, shape, or form. In fact, it says a lot about the Tea Party movement that she has ever been considered anything at all other as the screechy, vacuous bimbo from the frozen tundra that she is. I think that line was referring to Clinton....
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Post by dondub on May 16, 2016 14:59:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 13:00:24 GMT -5
It was strange. something about it reminded me of Trump. tuneless, ham fisted, arrogant.....and entertaining. And very, very politically incorrect.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 13:02:23 GMT -5
Will she be voting in the general election ? If not, who cares, she's French ! it might surprise you to learn that many voters care if we become the laughingstock of the world. if you are not one of them, that is fine- but try to have some perspective. There are also plenty that aren't defined by what a French women says over in France.
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Post by happyhoix on May 17, 2016 13:04:29 GMT -5
I agree with Happy for the most part. The segments of the population that tend to support Trump are people who are afraid/angry for one reason or another and long to have a president who will return them to the "good old days" whatever those might be to them. It's human nature to want to find a reason/cause for everything that appears to be going bad in the world/your life. Trump has figured out his target market perfectly by offering up a bounty of scapegoats for them to choose from with the promise he will make it all better. Not everyone who supports Trump thinks that, I agree with that too. My DH likes Trump because "he speaks his mind and tells it like it is". We can't discuss politics anymore because what I see is Trump isn't any different from any other politician. He's telling his target audience exactly what they want to hear. He's just a lot more crass and loudmouth about it. One of the reasons I voted for him. I'm sick and tired of namby-pamby political correctness getting into everything. Sometimes an illegal alien (or whatever) is just that. No need to butter it up to make it easier to swallow to meet an agenda. I agree that namby pamby political correctness is stupid.
Now, what do you think of a politician who proposes solutions that are self evidently too expensive (a giant wall between us and Mexico) or require magical thinking (making Mexico pay for the wall) or are actually not plans at all, but 'so awesome, so marvelous, everyone is going to love it' (Trumps' proposal for replacing Obamacare with awesomeness).
What do you think of someone who claims to be a conservative Republican proposing a $15 federal minimum wage, proposing that the wealthy pay an even higher amount of taxes than he originally proposed, and being left of the democratic candidate on national security and Wall Street?
Personally I prefer candidates that come up with a platform in line with their party's political philosophy and then sticking with it. You know where you stand with them, and what to expect in the future. Candidates that alter their proposals daily based on the kind of voters he is attempting to appeal to at that moment strike me as to - well - namby pamby - and someone who will be a loose cannon, should he ever get elected.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 13:05:57 GMT -5
Nothing is wrong with him. He doesn't agree with happyhoix's opinion of the political climate. um.....huh? "disagreement" is not the issue here. characterizing someone as evil, mentally ill, or an abuse victim for NOT sharing your perspective is ad hominem. and it is all too common on this board. even NICE PEOPLE here do it, with regularity. i, for one, would like it to stop. The way Happy wrote that post, I got the same impression that OC got. Maybe Swamp didn't see it as empathic. That's how I saw it. Edit; As far as liking things to stop. We all have our wish lists
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 13:17:41 GMT -5
One of the reasons I voted for him. I'm sick and tired of namby-pamby political correctness getting into everything. Sometimes an illegal alien (or whatever) is just that. No need to butter it up to make it easier to swallow to meet an agenda. I agree that namby pamby political correctness is stupid.
Now, what do you think of a politician who proposes solutions that are self evidently too expensive (a giant wall between us and Mexico) or require magical thinking (making Mexico pay for the wall) or are actually not plans at all, but 'so awesome, so marvelous, everyone is going to love it' (Trumps' proposal for replacing Obamacare with awesomeness).
What do you think of someone who claims to be a conservative Republican proposing a $15 federal minimum wage, proposing that the wealthy pay an even higher amount of taxes than he originally proposed, and being left of the democratic candidate on national security and Wall Street?
Personally I prefer candidates that come up with a platform in line with their party's political philosophy and then sticking with it. You know where you stand with them, and what to expect in the future. Candidates that alter their proposals daily based on the kind of voters he is attempting to appeal to at that moment strike me as to - well - namby pamby - and someone who will be a loose cannon, should he ever get elected.
I actually never thought he would do those things, no more than Obama would do all the things he said he would do. I look at him as change. (sound familiar) I don't want another Washington insider. Trump shouldn't replace the ACA with anything. I guess I'm worse than him in that regard.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2016 13:53:09 GMT -5
something about it reminded me of Trump. tuneless, ham fisted, arrogant.....and entertaining. And very, very politically incorrect. i am not a big fan of the expression. i prefer "confrontational".
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2016 13:53:57 GMT -5
um.....huh? "disagreement" is not the issue here. characterizing someone as evil, mentally ill, or an abuse victim for NOT sharing your perspective is ad hominem. and it is all too common on this board. even NICE PEOPLE here do it, with regularity. i, for one, would like it to stop. The way Happy wrote that post, I got the same impression that OC got. Maybe Swamp didn't see it as empathic. That's how I saw it. Edit; As far as liking things to stop. We all have our wish lists let's hear yours.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 14:07:33 GMT -5
And very, very politically incorrect. i am not a big fan of the expression. i prefer "confrontational". LOL, that applies to Trump all right.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 14:09:21 GMT -5
The way Happy wrote that post, I got the same impression that OC got. Maybe Swamp didn't see it as empathic. That's how I saw it. Edit; As far as liking things to stop. We all have our wish lists let's hear yours. The bait dangles.... wait.... wait.... the fish swim's past. Better luck next time.
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