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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 26, 2015 12:29:43 GMT -5
i would hope that everyone that supports Trump would read that link, and come to grips with it's implications.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Dec 26, 2015 12:41:31 GMT -5
I can no longer find words to describe Trump. I'm shocked people don't see through his lies. I wish the media would stop playing into his hand of getting free coverage for insulting people and telling lies.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 27, 2015 5:06:07 GMT -5
I can no longer find words to describe Trump. I'm shocked people don't see through his lies. I wish the media would stop playing into his hand of getting free coverage for insulting people and telling lies. They'll stop serving it when you stop drinking it.
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Post by Shooby on Dec 27, 2015 9:30:12 GMT -5
Go Trump Go!
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 27, 2015 12:00:12 GMT -5
I can no longer find words to describe Trump. I'm shocked people don't see through his lies. I wish the media would stop playing into his hand of getting free coverage for insulting people and telling lies. They'll stop serving it when you stop drinking it. that is not going to happen. the public has an undying thirst for lunacy and outrage. Trump is the perfect vehicle for it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 27, 2015 13:25:33 GMT -5
time.com/money/3923629/donald-trump-name-business-failures/i had no idea what a failure Trump was before today. i mean, i knew about the marriages, and the casino, but this guy has been failing since the 80's. spectacularly. he was upside down $4B in the 90's. the one thing i do find impressive is that he is utterly shameless about his failings. why is this article important? because he ALWAYS claims that every venture he is going to get into is going to be a YUGE success. you know, like that wall he wants to build? ever hear of Trump Vodka? how about Trump Airlines? yeah. me neither.
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Post by dondub on Dec 27, 2015 13:33:34 GMT -5
I'm still wondering why the extreme righties think Trump has any conservative bona fides. Why are they selling their souls just to get free admittance to the big top?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 27, 2015 13:43:01 GMT -5
I'm still wondering why the extreme righties think Trump has any conservative bona fides. Why are they selling their souls just to get free admittance to the big top? my money is on: ignorance. they see all of the anti-Muslim blather and they are smitten. but if they scrape below the surface, they will find that he has advocated a 15% surcharge tax for the super wealthy, he has advocated for single payer, he has been pro-choice, he is very much anti-hedge-fund/anti-wall-st, etc. in other words, he is pretty much Giuliani. i would be very much surprised if, having learned all of that, they still vote for him.
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Post by dondub on Dec 27, 2015 13:50:19 GMT -5
So shooby is a closet liberal?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 27, 2015 13:51:50 GMT -5
So shooby is a closet liberal? no. i think Shooby likes his "forthrightness". the only problem is that he LIES all of the time. what good is a "forthright" liar?
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Post by dondub on Dec 27, 2015 14:00:03 GMT -5
If the lies are telling people what they want to hear, it may be soothing to them. He is going to 'make America great again' afterall.
Personally, I think we have been 'great' all along but maybe for different reasons than others.
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Post by Opti on Dec 27, 2015 16:53:37 GMT -5
This might be one his supporters care about:
◾Trump claimed his campaign is “100 percent” self-funded. Nope. At the time, more than 50 percent of his campaign’s funds had come from outside contributors.
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Post by fishy999 on Dec 27, 2015 17:20:44 GMT -5
I'm still wondering why the extreme righties think Trump has any conservative bona fides. Why are they selling their souls just to get free admittance to the big top? my money is on: ignorance. they see all of the anti-Muslim blather and they are smitten. but if they scrape below the surface, they will find that he has advocated a 15% surcharge tax for the super wealthy, he has advocated for single payer, he has been pro-choice, he is very much anti-hedge-fund/anti-wall-st, etc. in other words, he is pretty much Giuliani. i would be very much surprised if, having learned all of that, they still vote for him. Because there are several versions of extreme 'righties'. 1) The scared as hell, no longer white majority, uneducated freakouts 2) The religious 'Obama is a Muslim' and we should be at war with a billion people lunatics, and 3) The very wealthy and business interests (mainstream) that count on them to reduce their taxes and promote their agenda. I would be surprised if they took the time to actually learn that My mother told me after XMAS dinner why she would be voting for Trump in the primary- and she is convinced Obama is a Muslim and terrorists are everywhere- scared to go to the mall. At least she hates Bush
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 30, 2015 8:38:41 GMT -5
I have two thoughts: First, if you study Trump, he has a habit of kicking in doors, and raising hell with the aim of being bought off and going away. And it has worked for him several times- the only time he was notably rebuffed in a major way was the threat to take over American Airlines. So, if this is what he's up to- what's he want? And how does he "go away" and save face-- e.g. how does he not go away a "loser"? Second, Trump has genuinely had it up to here, got in to shake things up- but now sees a real shot at the brass ring, and is in it to win it. I've expressed my reservations about Trump supporters being able to survive the fire swamp of electoral rules and regulations. The prospect of political neophytes making it through to actually get their guy in? Inconceivable! BUT, there's another thought that's been churning in my head for some time now, too-- that Trump's support runs deeper, and is far greater than anyone really has a handle on yet- that it is entirely possible his numbers are being suppressed, that people are lying to pollsters, that revolution is in the air, but it's a quiet burning ember kind of revolution which is going to detonate at the polls where it counts. www.businessinsider.com/trumps-support-is-even-stronger-than-you-think-2015-12 Not enough shitheads in this country I will pray to God for that You do realize Obama was elected and re-elected?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 30, 2015 8:51:09 GMT -5
I'm still wondering why the extreme righties think Trump has any conservative bona fides. Why are they selling their souls just to get free admittance to the big top? The conservative / T.E.A. Party movement feels betrayed by the GOP establishment- and betrayed by the Congress they sent to STOP Obama, and instead they've seen the GOP become a rubber stamp for trillions in new debt, and worse than failing to stop Obama-- they've been complicit in funding his agenda-- much of it out and out illegal and unConstitutional. They're sick of a one-sided media. They're sick of political correctness. They're sick of being push aside for every fringe lunatic / deviant's demand, and run over by a flood of illegal aliens deliberately allowed to come here for the express purpose of overwhelming the indigenous population to cancel out their votes and fundamentally change the country so they can ram through an anti-American, anti-liberty agenda that diminishes the United States politically, economically, and militarily so the US will no longer be an obstacle to the globalists and their one-world government dreams. AMERICANS have reached the tipping point. This election isn't about conservatism, it's about Americanism. It's about patriotism. Trump is not the 'leader' of an angry group of Americans from all walks of life that's sick of their shit, but he's smart enough to have become a candidate into which they can channel their anger.
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Post by Opti on Dec 30, 2015 8:51:35 GMT -5
Not enough shitheads in this country I will pray to God for that You do realize Obama was elected and re-elected? Just like George W. Bush?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 9:13:35 GMT -5
Trump represents at best what, 16% of the public? At best.
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 30, 2015 9:52:21 GMT -5
Trump represents at best what, 16% of the public? At best. That is what we are going to find out with the voting this coming year. I am very curious to find out what my fellow citizens will decide.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2015 10:11:33 GMT -5
Republicans are like maybe 40%? I'm not sure if polls generally ask likely voters, which is an even smaller group... At 30% of 40% we are at like 12%...
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 30, 2015 10:51:57 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for the primaries. Will the GOP voters really pick him in those contests?
When they also have......
Jeb!
Jeb! Jeb! JeB! jEB! JeB! jeB!
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 30, 2015 10:56:21 GMT -5
Deb?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 30, 2015 11:25:44 GMT -5
... and Jeb! I just love it when somebody else acknowledges he's going to win the Republican nomination. For the past few weeks, all day every day it's been "I think Trump may win it." "Yes, Trump." "But maybe Cruz, or Rubio." "Does Carson still have a shot?" "Trump for sure." "Paul might make inroads." "Cruz polls well in Iowa." "I hope it's not Trump, but it's going to be." At first I found everyone's faith in democracy endearing, but now, seeing everybody with their hopes up, I'm beginning to feel pangs of sadness. Demin, at least, seems to be coming around to an acceptance of the inevitable reality. Jeb! is reality.
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Post by gregintenn on Dec 31, 2015 15:06:54 GMT -5
Trump is a manifestation of our reality show/low information voter society.
Why don't you guys let Deb back on here?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 31, 2015 17:24:58 GMT -5
Trump is a manifestation of our reality show/low information voter society. Why don't you guys let Deb back on here? Mr. Trump is a manifestation of fear over where America is headed. Although it may not be an appropriate response, it's certainly an appropriate sentiment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 17:30:27 GMT -5
A fear that Fox News and right wing nutters work very hard to keep whipped to a froth
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Post by gregintenn on Dec 31, 2015 17:58:28 GMT -5
A fear that Fox News and right wing nutters work very hard to keep whipped to a froth I see a LOT of him on ALL media outlets. This makes me suspect that he's in the bag for Hillary. I don't see how one would know for sure until it's too late to do much about it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 31, 2015 20:09:32 GMT -5
Not enough shitheads in this country I will pray to God for that You do realize Obama was elected and re-elected? fuck that example. let's use 2004, instead.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 31, 2015 20:12:20 GMT -5
Trump represents at best what, 16% of the public? At best. about half that. 27% are registered Republicans, 40% like Trump, and 60% of them are committed. that is roughly 1/4 of 27% or 8%.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 20:13:37 GMT -5
I said at best
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