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Post by mmhmm on Dec 1, 2015 2:24:54 GMT -5
I knew Margaret Mitchell and Harper Lee. Drawing a blank on the other two. i only knew one of the four, but between us, we knew three. I knew all four. However, I'm also older than dirt!
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Post by marvholly on Dec 1, 2015 6:34:27 GMT -5
I am a voracous reader & knew 3 of the 4.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Dec 1, 2015 10:44:02 GMT -5
I knew about Lee because of the recent controversy. I'd never heard of the others, but your point was clear enough. Let's be clear: Mr. Cashill's claim isn't that "Dreams of My Father" was Pres. Obama's only popular work, it's that it's his only lucid work. It's the only work where the author demonstrates an awareness of the mechanics of the language. It's the only work where thoughts are structured and flow freely rather than blundering from point to point. Hence unless you're telling me that all of the above authors were hack essayists before and after their one hit, I fail to see the relevance. It seems to me they were competent writers whose other works were decent but simply failed to live up to the dizzying highs of their one masterpiece. The other half of Mr. Cashill's thesis is to establish a profile of Pres. Obama as a chronically sluggish writer and then ask the question of where he found the time to author his piece de resistance during a period in his life where he'd have had precious little time to do so. It's quite possible that you're right and Pres. Obama just is the literary equivalent of a one hit wonder, but I do find Cashill's thesis, speculative though it may be, compelling. 'Intriguing' is perhaps a better word. Pres. Obama has lied about so many things during his campaigns and over the course of his presidency that I owe him no strong presumption of innocence. i never claimed that Cashill claimed that it was his only work. i claimed that he claimed it was GOOD, and that he had no history of good work. would you not agree that this is ALSO true of writers who have NO history, good OR bad? i guess not, or you would not have rebutted me. but my point was that i think Obama is quite capable of good written work, even if Cashill doesn't. i find Cashills analysis highly speculative- but i am disposed against him, given his long history with WND. edit: i guess what i am saying is that i find Cashill a more reliable lair than Obama. I guess that's because there's a little monster in both of them.
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Post by Opti on Dec 1, 2015 11:16:44 GMT -5
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Dec 1, 2015 11:53:09 GMT -5
He's already raised money in a speech for a veteran organization consisting of.....1 person, the founder. Trump is either really stupid or has advisers who are inept.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2015 12:00:04 GMT -5
i think they should go without Trump, or cancel the event entirely.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Dec 1, 2015 12:09:05 GMT -5
I don't think Trump should get away with blackmailing any network. Go on without him. I don't think he's serious about helping the vets. He only thinks about himself. More free publicity and a chance to brag about the good he does.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2015 14:36:39 GMT -5
I don't think Trump should get away with blackmailing any network. Go on without him. I don't think he's serious about helping the vets. He only thinks about himself. More free publicity and a chance to brag about the good he does. if they cave in, it feeds the "Mexico will build my wall" rhetoric. if they don't, it will show him that people don't actually have to do anything he wants. this is not his country. it is ours.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2015 14:47:19 GMT -5
He's already raised money in a speech for a veteran organization consisting of.....1 person, the founder. Trump is either really stupid or has advisers who are inept. ttbomk, i don't think anyone in the media has publicly called him out for this. am i wrong?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Dec 1, 2015 15:31:05 GMT -5
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 2, 2015 8:47:58 GMT -5
Quinipac poll in the national Republican poll, says Trump has increased his lead in the national poll. Trump has spent only $200,000 in funds in his quest for the nomination so far This guy is golden right now. Al Sharpton this morning is concerned Trump will get the black religious vote if Hillary does not get busy. He asked why is Trump the only candidate wooing the black vote this year? This election cycle is turned upside down this year.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 9:09:36 GMT -5
Quinipac poll in the national Republican poll, says Trump has increased his lead in the national poll. Trump has spent only $200,000 in funds in his quest for the nomination so far This guy is golden right now. Al Sharpton this morning is concerned Trump will get the black religious vote if Hillary does not get busy. He asked why is Trump the only candidate wooing the black vote this year? This election cycle is turned upside down this year. Link please. He has spent at least $200,000 in aviation fuel alone.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 2, 2015 10:25:39 GMT -5
Do we want to have the same nitpicking over semantics over "swarms" that we had over "scholarship" or, are we prepared to admit that Donald Trump is now 100% vindicated? BOMBSHELL VIDEO: CBS News Reports "SWARMS" Of Muslims Celebrating In NJ on September 11, 2001Swarms. I guess a whole bunch of people are feeling pretty stupid right about now. I kept quiet because I knew intuitively that we have a SEVERE islamist problem in the United States that's been covered up for DECADES. I just KNEW deep down, he was right. Once again, we're discussing an issue that's "off limits" thanks to Donald Trump.
www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 11:05:39 GMT -5
Donald Trump" "I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down,” the Republican frontrunner told the crowd at a raucous rally in Birmingham, Ala., on Saturday. “And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down.”Trump triples down on claim he saw 'thousands of people' in New Jersey cheering on 9/11From Paul's above link: "Just a couple of blocks away from that Jersey City apartment the F.B.I. raided yesterday and had evidence removed, there is another apartment building, one that investigators told me, quote, was swarming with suspects — suspects who I’m told were cheering on the roof when they saw the planes slam into the Trade Center. Police were called to the building by neighbors and found eight men celebrating, six of them tenants in the building." Breitbart and the poster who posted the above nonsense should be embarrassed. Neither one of them have math skills.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 2, 2015 11:28:40 GMT -5
Quinipac poll in the national Republican poll, says Trump has increased his lead in the national poll. Trump has spent only $200,000 in funds in his quest for the nomination so far This guy is golden right now. Al Sharpton this morning is concerned Trump will get the black religious vote if Hillary does not get busy. He asked why is Trump the only candidate wooing the black vote this year? This election cycle is turned upside down this year. Link please. He has spent at least $200,000 in aviation fuel alone. MSNBC'S Joe Scarborough discussed candidates spending totals this morning. Kasich, Bush and someone else, Rubio? I do not remember, have spent 40 some million so far. Trump and Cruz maybe one other, less than 3 million. Trump spent the least as I stated, and Bush the most. So there you go, no link, so do some homework and get back to me. Sometimes the truth is simply very simple. Did you check the poll or do you need a link there too? If so, check the main page of your internet provider. I am sure it will be there.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 2, 2015 11:30:10 GMT -5
Do we want to have the same nitpicking over semantics over "swarms" that we had over "scholarship" or, are we prepared to admit that Donald Trump is now 100% vindicated? BOMBSHELL VIDEO: CBS News Reports "SWARMS" Of Muslims Celebrating In NJ on September 11, 2001Swarms. I guess a whole bunch of people are feeling pretty stupid right about now. I kept quiet because I knew intuitively that we have a SEVERE islamist problem in the United States that's been covered up for DECADES. I just KNEW deep down, he was right. Once again, we're discussing an issue that's "off limits" thanks to Donald Trump.
www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialRight now I put him at about 3.5% vindicated.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 11:38:39 GMT -5
Link please. He has spent at least $200,000 in aviation fuel alone. MSNBC'S Joe Scarborough discussed candidates spending totals this morning. Kasich, Bush and someone else, Rubio? I do not remember, have spent 40 some million so far. Trump and Cruz maybe one other, less than 3 million. Trump spent the least as I stated, and Bush the most. So there you go, no link, so do some homework and get back to me. Sometimes the truth is simply very simple. Did you check the poll or do you need a link there too? If so, check the main page of your internet provider. I am sure it will be there. An October, 2015 article: Trump not exactly self-funding his campaignETA from another October article: www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-not-spending-campaign-moneyI have no idea how much he has spent from the middle of October to date. But has clearly spent several or more millions and not just $200,000 as you state.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2015 11:57:56 GMT -5
Do we want to have the same nitpicking over semantics over "swarms" that we had over "scholarship" or, are we prepared to admit that Donald Trump is now 100% vindicated? BOMBSHELL VIDEO: CBS News Reports "SWARMS" Of Muslims Celebrating In NJ on September 11, 2001Swarms. I guess a whole bunch of people are feeling pretty stupid right about now. I kept quiet because I knew intuitively that we have a SEVERE islamist problem in the United States that's been covered up for DECADES. I just KNEW deep down, he was right. Once again, we're discussing an issue that's "off limits" thanks to Donald Trump.
www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialum....8 does not equal thousands, Paul. sorry. this vindicates Trump in no way whatsoever. note: i already said, when Trump made the claim, that there were probably "dozens" that celebrated. there were (19) bombers after all. to think they were the only ones here that wanted 911 to happen is just silly. but the claim of THOUSANDS is what is in dispute. the claim that he SAW IT ON TV is also in dispute. he did not see any crowds cheering on rooftops in NJ on TV. sorry, but his story is hogwash. he got confused between one report and another. it is a simple mistake. if he were to man up to it, it would speak volumes for him.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2015 11:59:37 GMT -5
Do we want to have the same nitpicking over semantics over "swarms" that we had over "scholarship" or, are we prepared to admit that Donald Trump is now 100% vindicated? BOMBSHELL VIDEO: CBS News Reports "SWARMS" Of Muslims Celebrating In NJ on September 11, 2001Swarms. I guess a whole bunch of people are feeling pretty stupid right about now. I kept quiet because I knew intuitively that we have a SEVERE islamist problem in the United States that's been covered up for DECADES. I just KNEW deep down, he was right. Once again, we're discussing an issue that's "off limits" thanks to Donald Trump.
www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialRight now I put him at about 3.5% vindicated. i'll agree to 0.35% vindication.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 12:04:53 GMT -5
Do we want to have the same nitpicking over semantics over "swarms" that we had over "scholarship" or, are we prepared to admit that Donald Trump is now 100% vindicated? BOMBSHELL VIDEO: CBS News Reports "SWARMS" Of Muslims Celebrating In NJ on September 11, 2001Swarms. I guess a whole bunch of people are feeling pretty stupid right about now. I kept quiet because I knew intuitively that we have a SEVERE islamist problem in the United States that's been covered up for DECADES. I just KNEW deep down, he was right. Once again, we're discussing an issue that's "off limits" thanks to Donald Trump.
www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialum....8 does not equal thousands, Paul. sorry. this vindicates Trump in no way whatsoever. Trump could not see the 8 people in Jersey City on the roof from his apartment. A number of miles separate the apartment from the roof.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2015 12:08:20 GMT -5
um....8 does not equal thousands, Paul. sorry. this vindicates Trump in no way whatsoever. Trump could not see the 8 people in Jersey City on the roof from his apartment. A number of miles separate the apartment from the roof. i believe he said he "saw it on TV". so, if the report that Breitbart dredged up is what he saw, it in no way reflects what he said.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 12:11:01 GMT -5
Trump could not see the 8 people in Jersey City on the roof from his apartment. A number of miles separate the apartment from the roof. i believe he said he "saw it on TV". so, if the report that Breitbart dredged up is what he saw, it in no way reflects what he said. From his apartment window, Trump said he saw people jumping from the World Trade Center too. How he saw these poor folks from four miles away and through all the smoke and falling debris is beyond comprehension.
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Post by Opti on Dec 2, 2015 12:14:16 GMT -5
IMO Trump is not vindicated at all. The statement was thousands and thousands. That would have been big news had it been true.
I am sick of the lame ass equivalencies which it seems Rush has programmed into people. One example equals everything, even if it logically the correlation of one to the many, almost never is true.
Stop conservative core math!
1 does not equal everyone on the other side 8 does not equal thousands and thousands
Perhaps CNN though, can get away with paying 8 dollars to Trump to be in the debate. After all it equals thousands and thousands which must equal 5 million in conservative core math.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2015 12:28:32 GMT -5
i believe he said he "saw it on TV". so, if the report that Breitbart dredged up is what he saw, it in no way reflects what he said. From his apartment window, Trump said he saw people jumping from the World Trade Center too. How he saw these poor folks from four miles away and through all the smoke and falling debris is beyond comprehension. wait, so it wasn't enough to say he saw it on TV? dear lord, he is a drama whore.
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Post by Opti on Dec 2, 2015 12:30:00 GMT -5
i believe he said he "saw it on TV". so, if the report that Breitbart dredged up is what he saw, it in no way reflects what he said. Trump said he saw people jumping from the World Trade Center too. How he saw these poor folks from four miles away and through all the smoke and falling debris is beyond comprehension. Maybe Trump is having issues with dementia or Alzheimers but does not know it yet. While he exaggerated in the past, I do not remember him being this loose with truth and reality prior to this campaign.
He reminds me of a some patients I have dealt with. They are amazing with the stories and will not acknowledge they were incorrect even if it can be proven.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 2, 2015 12:40:07 GMT -5
From his apartment window, Trump said he saw people jumping from the World Trade Center too. How he saw these poor folks from four miles away and through all the smoke and falling debris is beyond comprehension. wait, so it wasn't enough to say he saw it on TV? dear lord, he is a drama whore. Maybe he has a high powered telescope and has fetish for peeping into other folks high-rise apartments. Watch the video from the link below and look at the view south from his apartment building across Central Park to lower Manhattan (about a quarter way through the video). Trump: 'Many people jumped and I witnessed it' on 9/11Columbus, Ohio (CNN)Donald Trump said Monday that he witnessed people jumping out of the Twin Towers on 9/11 from the view in his apartment. "Many people jumped and I witnessed it, I watched that. I have a view -- a view in my apartment that was specifically aimed at the World Trade Center," Trump said Monday during a rally in Columbus, Ohio. "And I watched those people jump and I watched the second plane hit ... I saw the second plane hit the building and I said, 'Wow that's unbelievable,'" Trump continued. link
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2015 12:46:13 GMT -5
he exaggerates so wildly that people should doubt EVERYTHING he says. unlike Paul.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2015 12:48:40 GMT -5
Trump said he saw people jumping from the World Trade Center too. How he saw these poor folks from four miles away and through all the smoke and falling debris is beyond comprehension. Maybe Trump is having issues with dementia or Alzheimers but does not know it yet. While he exaggerated in the past, I do not remember him being this loose with truth and reality prior to this campaign.
He reminds me of a some patients I have dealt with. They are amazing with the stories and will not acknowledge they were incorrect even if it can be proven.
i think he is basically feeling pretty Godly right now. and wouldn't you? seriously. he has been front runner for PRESIDENT for a good long while now. what would that do to YOUR ego, if you were already a pompous ass to begin with? how would you feel if, every time you exaggerated, your poll numbers went UP? seriously, i am not big on human nature, but i think i know narcissism pretty well. what would a pathological narcissist do?
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 2, 2015 13:49:17 GMT -5
8 people is a swarm? Since when?
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