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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 21, 2015 18:53:54 GMT -5
That one I am not sure of because I have not watched all of them. They are available for fact checking though via Virgil's Inferno (can't post links here). i have read several reliable sources that claim it doesn't exist. i would be surprised if she were not lying. If the same reliable sources falsely claim that the videos are "selectively edited" then they are not reliable sources.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 21, 2015 18:55:59 GMT -5
i have read several reliable sources that claim it doesn't exist. i would be surprised if she were not lying. If the same reliable sources falsely claim that the videos are "selectively edited" then they are not reliable sources. i don't think so. but i stand by my post, in either case.
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Post by dondub on Sept 21, 2015 19:01:47 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 21, 2015 19:04:55 GMT -5
As I said- it has been a Republican issue. It clearly still was at that time-- the turn I'm referring to is a Democrat not just reluctantly signing it, but doing so wholeheartedly and in agreement with it.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 21, 2015 19:06:05 GMT -5
If the same reliable sources falsely claim that the videos are "selectively edited" then they are not reliable sources. i don't think so. but i stand by my post, in either case. So, your sources just happen to be reliable, but you don't really care?
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Post by dondub on Sept 21, 2015 19:10:08 GMT -5
As I said- it has been a Republican issue. It clearly still was at that time-- the turn I'm referring to is a Democrat not just reluctantly signing it, but doing so wholeheartedly and in agreement with it.
Spin cycle complete. Yes, Clinton sold out his constituencies but NAFTA was all about the Repos and GHWBush was ready to sign it except he lost to Clinton. In the meantime, most if not all Demo groups...labor, consumer advocates, etc. were totally opposed.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 21, 2015 19:11:40 GMT -5
i don't think so. but i stand by my post, in either case. So, your sources just happen to be reliable, but you don't really care? care about what? what you think of them? no. i don't care about what you think of them.
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Post by fishy999 on Sept 21, 2015 20:46:15 GMT -5
Half our country is full of uninformed idiots- I could get a camera and a question list and in one day hand you video of stupid liberals or conservatives that would agree to anything. Meaningless- unless you are a partisan propaganda artist with zero integrity.
Just like these 'sting' videos- if I have a mission to discredit or disparage any person, group, agency, etc. I could bide my time, take a ton of video and edit it with other video into 2 minutes of the most appalling footage ever- truth has nothing to do with it.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 22, 2015 13:09:14 GMT -5
As I said- it has been a Republican issue. It clearly still was at that time-- the turn I'm referring to is a Democrat not just reluctantly signing it, but doing so wholeheartedly and in agreement with it.
Spin cycle complete. Yes, Clinton sold out his constituencies but NAFTA was all about the Repos and GHWBush was ready to sign it except he lost to Clinton. In the meantime, most if not all Demo groups...labor, consumer advocates, etc. were totally opposed. So, am I right, or wrong that Trump's anti-free-trade stance is more traditionally Democrat?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 22, 2015 13:12:15 GMT -5
There's no concrete proof yet, but I just assumed the nano-second I heard the idiot at the Trump rally that he was a liberal plant. There is zero doubt in my mind- it's only a matter of time until it is proven conclusively.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 22, 2015 13:12:43 GMT -5
That one I am not sure of because I have not watched all of them. They are available for fact checking though via Virgil's Inferno (can't post links here). i have read several reliable sources that claim it doesn't exist. i would be surprised if she were not lying. It exists. Your source is wrong. Head over to the inferno.
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Post by dondub on Sept 22, 2015 14:38:35 GMT -5
I'll bet that most of the 40% of Repos that believe Obama is a Muslim are "liberal plants".
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 22, 2015 14:55:49 GMT -5
i have read several reliable sources that claim it doesn't exist. i would be surprised if she were not lying. It exists. Your source is wrong. Head over to the inferno. sources. and no, it doesn't. the video exists*, but the audio she describes doesn't. in addition, her description of what happens is not accurate. edit: she probably won't back-peddle, tho. the truth is ugly enough that most people will forgive her lack of proof. Dante. *edit2: i should say that A video exists. it is not of the event in question, but another event, which is why it is NOT POSSIBLE that the audio is on it. the video which Fiorina CLAIMS to have seen, of an assistant being asked to harvest a fetus brain while it squirms on the table DOES NOT EXIST. clear enough?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 22, 2015 15:35:37 GMT -5
There's no concrete proof yet, but I just assumed the nano-second I heard the idiot at the Trump rally that he was a liberal plant. There is zero doubt in my mind- it's only a matter of time until it is proven conclusively. when someone other than Breitbart picks this up, let me know. ditto for your Carly Was Right stories.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2015 18:03:34 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2015 18:10:18 GMT -5
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Post by dondub on Sept 23, 2015 19:59:39 GMT -5
I'll bet that some of the 54% of the Repos that believe Obama is Muslim are "liberal plants". Is that better?
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2015 20:13:11 GMT -5
Here is the poll paul mentions above. A majority of democrats believe Obama is Christian or at least spiritual. They clearly do not believe Obama is a Muslim. Because the poll image is so large, I am putting it behind the Spoiler button.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2015 20:17:27 GMT -5
give the approval rating of congress, Josef Stalin would probably poll better than Rubio.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2015 20:18:40 GMT -5
Here is the poll paul mentions above. A majority of democrats believe Obama is Christian or at least spiritual. They clearly do not believe Obama is a Muslim. Because the poll image is so large, I am putting it behind the Spoiler button. i looked it up. so, 5-7x as many Republicans think Obama is a Muslim than Democrats. i am not sure how that fact is in any way shocking.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2015 20:19:10 GMT -5
what is an authentic Christian?
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2015 21:24:54 GMT -5
what is an authentic Christian? Give it a read and figure out how many you know. I read the article and know of no one who meets that criteria. And I mean no one. link
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2015 21:43:48 GMT -5
what is an authentic Christian? According the plurality of voters who are unwilling to take Obama at his word that he is a Christian? I don't know. For me, it's the years he spent in Indonesia at the Madrasa, followed by years being mentored by communists and radicals, including terrorists, and under the influence of material written by such intellectuals of the left as Saul Alinski which inspired his "career" as a "community organizer", and his 22 years in a hate-filled, anti-American, black supremacist cult in Chicago whose leader is the man Obama described as his "spiritual father". But I can't speak for everyone else and why they think there might be a reason to question Obama's statements. I will grant that he may believe it himself- that he is a Christian, but that doesn't make him one in the view of a great many people. Do I think he is a Muslim? Probably not. My personal feeling is that Barrack Hussein Obama is the narcissistic wonder boy of communist idealists with daddy issues who really doesn't believe in anything but wielding power because he's felt powerless most of his life as the mixed race son of a single mother who carefully manipulated him, making sure to direct his somewhat understandable rage and anger at America, the Western colonialist powers, and evangelical Christians.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2015 21:46:04 GMT -5
give the approval rating of congress, Josef Stalin would probably poll better than Rubio. And yet the presumptive nominee of the GOP elites, Jeb Bush, does not.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2015 21:50:54 GMT -5
what is an authentic Christian? According the plurality of voters who are unwilling to take Obama at his word that he is a Christian? I don't know. For me, it's the years he spent in Indonesia at the Madrasa, followed by years being mentored by communists and radicals, including terrorists, and under the influence of material written by such intellectuals of the left as Saul Alinski which inspired his "career" as a "community organizer", and his 22 years in a hate-filled, anti-American, black supremacist cult in Chicago whose leader is the man Obama described as his "spiritual father". But I can't speak for everyone else and why they think there might be a reason to question Obama's statements. I will grant that he may believe it himself- that he is a Christian, but that doesn't make him one in the view of a great many people. Do I think he is a Muslim? Probably not. My personal feeling is that Barrack Hussein Obama is the narcissistic wonder boy of communist idealists with daddy issues who really doesn't believe in anything but wielding power because he's felt powerless most of his life as the mixed race son of a single mother who carefully manipulated him, making sure to direct his somewhat understandable rage and anger at America, the Western colonialist powers, and evangelical Christians. Interesting spin take.
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 23, 2015 22:22:48 GMT -5
Trump has announced he is boycotting Fox News. No more interviews. He feels they are not fair to him. Who would have thought he would feel more comfortable with MSNBC than Fox?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 22:53:38 GMT -5
Finally a topic in your wheelhouse... Narcissistic wonder boys...
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 24, 2015 0:03:26 GMT -5
what is an authentic Christian? According the plurality of voters who are unwilling to take Obama at his word that he is a Christian? I don't know. For me, it's the years he spent in Indonesia at the Madrasa, followed by years being mentored by communists and radicals, including terrorists, and under the influence of material written by such intellectuals of the left as Saul Alinski which inspired his "career" as a "community organizer", and his 22 years in a hate-filled, anti-American, black supremacist cult in Chicago whose leader is the man Obama described as his "spiritual father". But I can't speak for everyone else and why they think there might be a reason to question Obama's statements. I will grant that he may believe it himself- that he is a Christian, but that doesn't make him one in the view of a great many people. Do I think he is a Muslim? Probably not. My personal feeling is that Barrack Hussein Obama is the narcissistic wonder boy of communist idealists with daddy issues who really doesn't believe in anything but wielding power because he's felt powerless most of his life as the mixed race son of a single mother who carefully manipulated him, making sure to direct his somewhat understandable rage and anger at America, the Western colonialist powers, and evangelical Christians. ROTFLMAO! You're such a good little Rush-bot. Anyway, you're upset because of his "Islamic ties" AND his church? For the love of god, just pick one and stick with it.
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 24, 2015 8:26:19 GMT -5
Trump is at 31% in the latest Republican poll for Florida.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 24, 2015 12:20:35 GMT -5
what is an authentic Christian? According the plurality of voters who are unwilling to take Obama at his word that he is a Christian? I don't know. For me, it's the years he spent in Indonesia at the Madrasa, followed by years being mentored by communists and radicals, including terrorists, and under the influence of material written by such intellectuals of the left as Saul Alinski which inspired his "career" as a "community organizer", and his 22 years in a hate-filled, anti-American, black supremacist cult in Chicago whose leader is the man Obama described as his "spiritual father". But I can't speak for everyone else and why they think there might be a reason to question Obama's statements. I will grant that he may believe it himself- that he is a Christian, but that doesn't make him one in the view of a great many people. Do I think he is a Muslim? Probably not. My personal feeling is that Barrack Hussein Obama is the narcissistic wonder boy of communist idealists with daddy issues who really doesn't believe in anything but wielding power because he's felt powerless most of his life as the mixed race son of a single mother who carefully manipulated him, making sure to direct his somewhat understandable rage and anger at America, the Western colonialist powers, and evangelical Christians. was Eric Rudolf an authentic Christian?
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