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What is wrong with thinking the different races are different and that is okay?
I do not think there is anything wrong with a black woman being hurt because none of her sons married a black woman. I think that is a very understandable thing. Why do people want color blindness?
I think blacks would do better if they acted as a collective. For example, tell some company, Coca-cola maybe, that they are 20% of the population and expect Coke to have 20% of its executives be black and 20% of its drivers to be black, etc. Quit depending on laws to provide fairness and quit expecting people to change their views because they are told to.
After Coke, tell Apple then Boeing, etc. If they don't hire then boycott the company. Blacks are an economic power in America.
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Post by mroped on Jul 10, 2015 18:27:16 GMT -5
Ones color, religion, sex, age or political afiliation are absolutely irelevant to me. However I do make an effort to be extra nice if we could say that, towards older people especially veterans. My father taught me that you should size/ judge a person based on their actions and nothing else. Back home there was some animosity towards the gypsies and dad told me once that " a gypsie is a gypsie by behavior and not by the color of his skin!"
I tend to be a bit biased as in "completely and utterly dislike" lazy, liars, and cheats. If that makes me racist then so be it:I am a big one!
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Post by mroped on Jul 10, 2015 18:32:59 GMT -5
And just to throw a monkey wrench in: there are scholarships of all kinds out there for those in college. Anybody can apply for and get one as long as you are compliant with some stipulations/conditions. There are no scholarships saying "blacks need not apply!" But there are scholarships that are saying "blacks only!" How is that for equality? Or discrimination if I may?
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 10, 2015 18:34:31 GMT -5
Are we talking Khan played by Ricardo Montalban? Isnt he Hispanic?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 12, 2015 8:49:42 GMT -5
Just to clarify: I believe Mr. Metta's grievance is that he would prefer Khan in the new Star Trek series to be played by an Indian actor, rather than the very white Mr. Cumberbatch. It begs the question of whether he'd be complaining about a non-white character being portrayed as the villain had the producers elected to do so, but I digress.
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Just to clarify: I believe Mr. Metta's grievance is that he would prefer Khan in the new Star Trek series to be played by an Indian actor, rather than the very white Mr. Cumberbatch. It begs the question of whether he'd be complaining about a non-white character being portrayed as the villain had the producers elected to do so, but I digress. Isn't "Khan" an Indian name? I think he wants Indians to be played by Indians.
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I think there is way too much emphasis on we are all the same. I think if some races would look out for themselves a bit more they would be better off. I think that is one of the reasons Hispanics do so well. I think they see themselves as part of a group or community and look out for others in that community.
I was listening to a radio show on community banks and black banks. The show spoke of a study that had rampant soft racism against blacks when they applied for loans, nothing huge, but tougher questions and less friendly loan officers. If banks could specialize in loaning to blacks or Hispanics, etc, they could better serve those communities, but that would be discriminatory and illegal. A lot of people are going to say that banks should treat all the same, but apparently that is not happening. Laws against discrimination just push some views below the surface and some just do not realize they even have those views. I think if you asked the loan officers above, they would deny racism.
I think what America needs is a combination of assimilation and diversity. I do not know the perfect mix, but I think saying we are all the same is not accurate and is not working for many.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 12, 2015 9:38:54 GMT -5
Just to clarify: I believe Mr. Metta's grievance is that he would prefer Khan in the new Star Trek series to be played by an Indian actor, rather than the very white Mr. Cumberbatch. It begs the question of whether he'd be complaining about a non-white character being portrayed as the villain had the producers elected to do so, but I digress. Isn't "Khan" an Indian name? I think he wants Indians to be played by Indians. "Khan" means "Lord" in a wide range of Altaic languages. As a name, it would definitely suggest somebody darker-skinned, although not necessarily an Indian. Regarding "Khan" the character, I don't know where he originates per Star Trek lore. I thought he was a genetically-engineered "master race" -type zealot from another planet, found adrift in space or something. I generally don't "get" Mr. Metta's arguments. He's decrying "racism" as actions/attitudes white Americans don't engage in rather than actions/attitudes they do engage in, and producers not casting a dark-skinned actor as "Khan" is an example of this racism by inaction.
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Isn't "Khan" an Indian name? I think he wants Indians to be played by Indians. "Khan" means "Lord" in a wide range of Altaic languages. As a name, it would definitely suggest somebody darker-skinned, although not necessarily an Indian. Regarding "Khan" the character, I don't know where he originates per Star Trek lore. I thought he was a genetically-engineered "master race" -type zealot from another planet, found adrift in space or something. I generally don't "get" Mr. Metta's arguments. He's decrying "racism" as actions/attitudes white Americans don't engage in rather than actions/attitudes they do engage in, and producers not casting a dark-skinned actor as "Khan" is an example of this racism by inaction. Excluding someone because of skin color is kind of racist. Khan the character probably originates for some Altaic range, not necessarily India though. You can tell that by his name.
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... Regarding "Khan" the character, I don't know where he originates per Star Trek lore. I thought he was a genetically-engineered "master race" -type zealot from another planet, found adrift in space or something. ... The character once controlled more than a quarter of the Earth during the Eugenics Wars of the 1990s.[1] After being revived from suspended animation in 2267 by the crew of the USS Enterprise, Khan attempts to capture the starship, but is thwarted by James T. Kirk and exiled on Ceti Alpha V to create a new society with his people. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 12, 2015 9:43:49 GMT -5
The show spoke of a study that had rampant soft racism against blacks when they applied for loans, nothing huge, but tougher questions and less friendly loan officers. Which obviously indicates a problem. The question is: can we isolate the specific cause of the problem? Are the tellers giving black customers the gears because they innately don't like blacks, or do black customers have an appreciably higher rate of missing payments and defaulting on loans? I don't know either way, but did the study even look into that question?
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The show spoke of a study that had rampant soft racism against blacks when they applied for loans, nothing huge, but tougher questions and less friendly loan officers. Which obviously indicates a problem. The question is: can we isolate the specific cause of the problem? Are the tellers giving black customers the gears because they innately don't like blacks, or do black customers have an appreciably higher rate of missing payments and defaulting on loans? I don't know either way, but did the study even look into that question? It was about community banks and what is lost by not having black owned banks. The show itself was not about racism so much as what is lost by losing community banking.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 12, 2015 9:55:55 GMT -5
... Regarding "Khan" the character, I don't know where he originates per Star Trek lore. I thought he was a genetically-engineered "master race" -type zealot from another planet, found adrift in space or something. ... The character once controlled more than a quarter of the Earth during the Eugenics Wars of the 1990s.[1] After being revived from suspended animation in 2267 by the crew of the USS Enterprise, Khan attempts to capture the starship, but is thwarted by James T. Kirk and exiled on Ceti Alpha V to create a new society with his people. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Noonien_Singh Your article cites the controversy as well: www.mtv.com/news/1715752/star-trek-khan-comic-darkness/What I find particularly amusing is that the only comment in the article is a woman insistently claiming that 'Latino' isn't an ethnicity. Take that, djAdvocate!
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 12, 2015 9:57:37 GMT -5
The show spoke of a study that had rampant soft racism against blacks when they applied for loans, nothing huge, but tougher questions and less friendly loan officers. Which obviously indicates a problem. The question is: can we isolate the specific cause of the problem? Are the tellers giving black customers the gears because they innately don't like blacks, or do black customers have an appreciably higher rate of missing payments and defaulting on loans? I don't know either way, but did the study even look into that question? Is "an appreciably higher rate of missing payments and defaulting on loans" a product of skin color or economic circumstance?
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Which obviously indicates a problem. The question is: can we isolate the specific cause of the problem? Are the tellers giving black customers the gears because they innately don't like blacks, or do black customers have an appreciably higher rate of missing payments and defaulting on loans? I don't know either way, but did the study even look into that question? It was about community banks and what is lost by not having black owned banks. The show itself was not about racism so much as what is lost by losing community banking. What solutions did it propose for fixing it? Who specifically would the government give capital to in order to start up black-owned community banks, and what standards/safeguards would be put in place to ensure the banks would be well-managed and fair to customers?
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It was about community banks and what is lost by not having black owned banks. The show itself was not about racism so much as what is lost by losing community banking. What solutions did it propose for fixing it? Who specifically would the government give capital to in order to start up black-owned community banks, and what standards/safeguards would be put in place to ensure the banks would be well-managed and fair to customers? I do not think the government needs to give capital in order to start up black owned community banks. The last bank fiasco led to government putting in obligations for banks to follow that many small and medium sized banks did not need. It just led to more cost for them and the larger banks were better able to accept the costs. What is needed is not more government but less government in many cases and probably in this case. As far as being fair to customers , I think capitalism is something we might want to try again instead of government management and ten billion rules. You have to have some regulations, but letting failures fail and not propping them up is important. How did the government ensure the banks in the radio show (the ones that discriminated based solely on color) were well-managed and fair to customers
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 12, 2015 10:17:22 GMT -5
Which obviously indicates a problem. The question is: can we isolate the specific cause of the problem? Are the tellers giving black customers the gears because they innately don't like blacks, or do black customers have an appreciably higher rate of missing payments and defaulting on loans? I don't know either way, but did the study even look into that question? Is "an appreciably higher rate of missing payments and defaulting on loans" a product of skin color or economic circumstance? Correlation doesn't care. Firstly, race happens to be one of the easiest data to associate with a loan applicant, and if there's a meaningful difference between the parameters of the two groups (black vs. non-black), race very naturally becomes a discriminant for risk. After the experience of a long career, a loan officer may have accrued 'flags' in his/her mind: "Always double-check people wearing mismatched socks, people that can't stop fidgeting, and young black men, because these groups have proven to be a huge lending risk." Secondly, if a correlation exists, one could argue that black Americans get the gears because they present loan applications that are (statistically speaking) weaker and more worthy of scrutiny than white Americans. If such a disparity exists, the study would have to send in control groups with roughly identical wage/credit statistics to account for it. I don't know if they actually did this.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 12, 2015 10:19:55 GMT -5
What solutions did it propose for fixing it? Who specifically would the government give capital to in order to start up black-owned community banks, and what standards/safeguards would be put in place to ensure the banks would be well-managed and fair to customers? I do not think the government needs to give capital in order to start up black owned community banks. The last bank fiasco led to government putting in obligations for banks to follow that many small and medium sized banks did not need. It just led to more cost for them and the larger banks were better able to accept the costs. What is needed is not more government but less government in many cases and probably in this case. As far as being fair to customers , I think capitalism is something we might want to try again instead of government management and ten billion rules. You have to have some regulations, but letting failures fail and not propping them up is important. How did the government ensure the banks in the radio show (the ones that discriminated based solely on color) were well-managed and fair to customers I guess that's my point, though. How do we fix this? Presumably it's a problem because black people aren't going out and starting up black-owned community banks. If the government offering capital for new community banks isn't the answer, what was the radio commentator asking people to do about it?
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Post by joemilitary on Jul 12, 2015 10:23:26 GMT -5
So this is not about issues I have with a NASCAR race?
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I do not think the government needs to give capital in order to start up black owned community banks. The last bank fiasco led to government putting in obligations for banks to follow that many small and medium sized banks did not need. It just led to more cost for them and the larger banks were better able to accept the costs. What is needed is not more government but less government in many cases and probably in this case. As far as being fair to customers , I think capitalism is something we might want to try again instead of government management and ten billion rules. You have to have some regulations, but letting failures fail and not propping them up is important. How did the government ensure the banks in the radio show (the ones that discriminated based solely on color) were well-managed and fair to customers I guess that's my point, though. How do we fix this? Presumably it's a problem because black people aren't going out and starting up black-owned community banks. If the government offering capital for new community banks isn't the answer, what was the radio commentator asking people to do about it? I do not think the radio show offered a solution of if it did I did not hear it. My solution would be to get rid of overwhelming huge banks. More banks owning fewer branches would offer more diversity. That could be accomplished by lesser government not more government. Don't let the big banks make the rules, they make rules that work for them and against competition. The new rules after 08 were not needed by many medium sized banks, but they have to absorb the costs of implementing and running them. Big banks get to spread the cost out over larger areas and benefit from being big. And remember it was the big banks not the medium sized banks that need the rules because they are the ones that broke things and were to big to fail.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 12, 2015 11:23:52 GMT -5
Is "an appreciably higher rate of missing payments and defaulting on loans" a product of skin color or economic circumstance? Correlation doesn't care. Firstly, race happens to be one of the easiest data to associate with a loan applicant, and if there's a meaningful difference between the parameters of the two groups (black vs. non-black), race very naturally becomes a discriminant for risk. After the experience of a long career, a loan officer may have accrued 'flags' in his/her mind: "Always double-check people wearing mismatched socks, people that can't stop fidgeting, and young black men, because these groups have proven to be a huge lending risk." ... A person wears mismatched socks due to personal inattention to detail. Even a person who is colorblind can develop strategies to ensure they do not wear mismatched stocks. Fidgeting is a little tricky because it might be a neurological problem. Other than that, an individual can work to overcome that nervous habit. Nothing a person born black can do to change that. For that reason, a professional should not act in a way that red flag might indicate they should (i.e., treat the applicant differently based solely on skin color).
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Jul 12, 2015 12:27:34 GMT -5
I find it hard to swallow. We elected a black president, so at least 50% of us are not completely racist. I have black neighbors, have had black co-workers, have black friends and my niece is dating a black man. My cousin has a bi-racial grandchild. The owner of my company has 2 black step grandchildren, a partner in a CPA firm I deal with has 3 bi-racial grandchildren. Milwaukee may be the most segregated city in the US, but I live in a Milwaukee County suburb that has (I think) 30% minority residents. My kids friendships really seem to be colorblind and blind to religious differences. My daughter has indian friends, black friends, Muslim friends, Sikh friends, Mexican Friends, puerto rican friends and white friends. Our kids who grew up in an imperfect changing America our our future and they see the people not the differences. As our families grow and include individuals of more diverse backgrounds we become less willing to allow discrimination and racism. I have very little ability or power to affect conditions in the inner city. How we fund inner city schools is lacking (state support would provide more $$ resources). Public transportation and job creation need attention too. I can't remember when I didn't associate the confederate flag with racism, but John Stewart did instigate us to speak up and demand change. The events of the last year have also focused us on disparity in how drug convictions are handled. It may take another 10-15 years but we will get there. You missed the point of his article - he said that when he starts to talk about race, white people get defensive because they, themselves are not racist, and because they don't see the day to day racism that black people can see. He and his wife have been looking for a new church for their family (3 small kids) and he said while he liked one particular church, it was mostly white, and his wife noticed that, while his kids were playing with the rest of the kids, the mother of one of the little white girls got a disturbed look on her face when his son started playing with her little girl. This is a nice church, with good Christian people who would no doubt all (including this woman) state they are not racist, and yet that happened. We (whites) don't see that kind of subtle racism. Yes, overt racism has significantly declined, but I agree with the author (and my friend) that subtle racism is still all around us. And therein lies the question...did she really see a look or was the person expecting to see "a look" and therefore saw it. If seems that many people think white people are racist, "even if they don't know it or don't mean to be," which leads to a person thinking that is the case no matter what happens or doesn't happen. So it is easy to claim "subtle racism," even when it doesn't exist. I'm not saying it doesn't, but thinking that it's going to happen is like thinking that the non-white neighbor is going to fit into some preconceived stereotype to the point that a person will see it whether it is true or not.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Jul 12, 2015 12:42:20 GMT -5
I think going forward that more of the focus needs to be on unconscious bias, because that's how most racism, sexism, ageism, etc presents itself these days. And being aware of privilege helps too, and helps you combat it. It's not to say that any particular individual is to blame for their privilege, but understanding that you have it can help improve your empathy for other people's situations, and hopefully help figure out how to combat it in the long run. It also helps to be aware that teaching a mistrust of non-white people is the same type of prejudice as teaching people to mistrust white people (although only one of those is usually discussed). I've lived in areas that were predominantly non-white and the racism toward white people was far from subtle. Most people didn't seem to have an issue and it would be unfair to claim that whole area was discriminatory....but it definitely existed. I've not heard anybody claim racism has completely disappeared, but I've heard far too many people complain about it only coming from white people and dismissing it from other groups because they feel that "white people have a privilege they don't realize they have and are really racist, even without realizing it." Some even go so far as to argue non-white people can't really be racist or at least can't act on it because they don't have the institutional power to do so (the author seems to hint at this belief). I learned a long time ago that racism is racism and some people will see it whether it exist or not, while others will be completely oblivious to it. However, there is a very real difference between real vs perceived....and determining the difference sometimes doesn't matter because whether it is real or not, it is hard to change the mind of the person with the perception either way.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Jul 12, 2015 12:56:16 GMT -5
Yes, I agree. I think the lack of upward mobility is more a function of poverty than race.
And I think that plays into policing as well.
I think police in high crime, predominantly poor areas are naturally "tougher" and more likely to "hassle" people.
The problem is those neighborhoods are also predominantly black.
I've seen studies that show having the police force match the communities they police doesn't help much in that regard. I've brought up this question before, especially in the context of people complaining that police are more likely to act differently toward non-white people. The question was about the thought that systemic racism exist among police and my question was that maybe the reason having more discussions about racism aren't working is because maybe (just maybe) that isn't the problem. Are police treating people differently based on skin color or are they acting differently in higher crime areas that happened to be predominantly non-white? I'm not arguing racism doesn't exist at all, I'm arguing if that is the main culprit for the issue. People far too often discuss issues with generational poverty in the inner cities, but why isn't that same discussion had about more rural area? My guess (and it's only a guess) is that politicians don't have the same political motivation to do so. Of course if somebody talked about poverty in rural areas without talking about inner cities, they would probably be called racist...but is somebody doesn't talk about poverty in rural area, they get a pass for not talking about it and probably could explain it away that inner city poverty affects more people. Is the issues of discussing poverty among inner cities, while seemingly ignoring rural area poverty racially motivated...I can't really say, but an argument could be made about it whether it is true or not.
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Post by buystoys on Jul 12, 2015 13:22:17 GMT -5
You missed the point of his article - he said that when he starts to talk about race, white people get defensive because they, themselves are not racist, and because they don't see the day to day racism that black people can see. He and his wife have been looking for a new church for their family (3 small kids) and he said while he liked one particular church, it was mostly white, and his wife noticed that, while his kids were playing with the rest of the kids, the mother of one of the little white girls got a disturbed look on her face when his son started playing with her little girl. This is a nice church, with good Christian people who would no doubt all (including this woman) state they are not racist, and yet that happened. We (whites) don't see that kind of subtle racism. Yes, overt racism has significantly declined, but I agree with the author (and my friend) that subtle racism is still all around us. And therein lies the question...did she really see a look or was the person expecting to see "a look" and therefore saw it. If seems that many people think white people are racist, "even if they don't know it or don't mean to be," which leads to a person thinking that is the case no matter what happens or doesn't happen. So it is easy to claim "subtle racism," even when it doesn't exist. I'm not saying it doesn't, but thinking that it's going to happen is like thinking that the non-white neighbor is going to fit into some preconceived stereotype to the point that a person will see it whether it is true or not. I'll share a personal story here. I went out with a couple of girls I worked with several years ago. We had a blast and stayed out until the wee hours of the morning. The following Monday, I commented that I wasn't able to keep up with them. One of the girls gave me a strange look and asked me why. I said, "You are all 10-15 years younger than I am. I'm out of practice and I think my party gene is broken." She got a sheepish look on her face and said, "I thought you were saying that because we're all black." You know what? I hadn't even thought about that until she mentioned it. (There was more to the conversation, but that was the basic message.) Needless to say, I was not completely comfortable with those girls after that. I felt like I had to be super careful about what I said so they wouldn't take it the wrong way. It seemed like it didn't matter that I didn't see any issue(s) with their skin color, since they expected it to be an issue it was. It really saddened me, but I can only control my own views.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 12, 2015 13:53:06 GMT -5
In the context of video games, I've seen some complaints about characters in those as well.
Recently, the Witcher 3 was criticized for having an all white cast.
What some people fail to realize is that The Witcher series was developed by a polish developer. Not every country has the racial diversity or history of the U.S, but some seem to demand that international developers cater to American social norms and demographics.
Personally, I think the latter is more "bigoted" but that's just me.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 12, 2015 13:55:21 GMT -5
I do not think the government needs to give capital in order to start up black owned community banks. The last bank fiasco led to government putting in obligations for banks to follow that many small and medium sized banks did not need. It just led to more cost for them and the larger banks were better able to accept the costs. What is needed is not more government but less government in many cases and probably in this case. As far as being fair to customers , I think capitalism is something we might want to try again instead of government management and ten billion rules. You have to have some regulations, but letting failures fail and not propping them up is important. How did the government ensure the banks in the radio show (the ones that discriminated based solely on color) were well-managed and fair to customers I guess that's my point, though. How do we fix this? Presumably it's a problem because black people aren't going out and starting up black-owned community banks. If the government offering capital for new community banks isn't the answer, what was the radio commentator asking people to do about it? That's the question of the day.
IF we accept there is massive, systemic, institutional racism, what can your average, work a day white person, supposed to do about it? I'd be interested to hear theories.
Short of picking up an moving to a black neighborhood, I don't see much I could do about it personally.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Jul 12, 2015 14:13:22 GMT -5
I find it ironic (although there may be some truth to it) that the author seems to believe that part of the problem is too many people are concerned with white people's feelings being too fragile when discussing racism, while completely ignoring the reality that white people often need to be concerned about avoiding even the perception of saying something that might somehow be considered offensive in some way. Maybe the same issues that the author views when trying to discuss racism with a white person is the exact same issues as a white person trying to discuss his or her view with a non-white person...maybe both are trying to avoid offending each other, while also wanting to avoid being called racist or "angry."
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Jul 12, 2015 14:17:21 GMT -5
What is wrong with thinking the different races are different and that is okay? I do not think there is anything wrong with a black woman being hurt because none of her sons married a black woman. I think that is a very understandable thing. Why do people want color blindness? I think blacks would do better if they acted as a collective. For example, tell some company, Coca-cola maybe, that they are 20% of the population and expect Coke to have 20% of its executives be black and 20% of its drivers to be black, etc. Quit depending on laws to provide fairness and quit expecting people to change their views because they are told to. After Coke, tell Apple then Boeing, etc. If they don't hire then boycott the company. Blacks are an economic power in America. Sounds like a great way to promote racism and more separation. When people start using strong arm tactics to promote and "us vs them" mentality, it usually doesn't seem to end well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 15:03:55 GMT -5
What is wrong with thinking the different races are different and that is okay? I do not think there is anything wrong with a black woman being hurt because none of her sons married a black woman. I think that is a very understandable thing. Why do people want color blindness? I think blacks would do better if they acted as a collective. For example, tell some company, Coca-cola maybe, that they are 20% of the population and expect Coke to have 20% of its executives be black and 20% of its drivers to be black, etc. Quit depending on laws to provide fairness and quit expecting people to change their views because they are told to. After Coke, tell Apple then Boeing, etc. If they don't hire then boycott the company. Blacks are an economic power in America. Sounds like a great way to promote racism and more separation. When people start using strong arm tactics to promote and "us vs them" mentality, it usually doesn't seem to end well. maybe that is because you are white and don't want them to have more of the economic pie? Idk. I think acting from power is better then wanting the law to change people's behavior.
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