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Post by honeysalt on Jun 14, 2015 22:35:30 GMT -5
If I ever date again, my rule will be fully adult brain. If legal works for you, go with that. I have not yet been attracted to people younger than me, but I did have a wonderful fling with a man in his forties when I was in my mid twenties. So, who knows? I might have a similar experience with a younger person in my forties.
Monogamous relationships with people of the opposite sex who are in a similar age range can work well, but they often fail. Other arrangements can work well also.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 3:16:00 GMT -5
I just introduce myself as Mrs. Robinson I'm sorry my evil twin is on keyboard today. And this is a serious discussion so I have sent her to the back forty with the goats and chickens!! Coo coo cachoo.
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Post by joemilitary on Jun 15, 2015 10:43:18 GMT -5
I think the main question is----does Opti put out on the first date?
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 11:16:39 GMT -5
I think the main question is----does Opti put out on the first date? Ooh! Inquiring minds want to know!
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 11:18:56 GMT -5
Young guys aren't as experienced anyway. You want to be going after the older ones. But not too old.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 15, 2015 11:40:21 GMT -5
Young guys aren't as experienced anyway. You want to be going after the older ones. But not too old. ahem, my 25-year-old was VERY good... much better than the older ones I've been with.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 15, 2015 11:41:27 GMT -5
Young guys aren't as experienced anyway. You want to be going after the older ones. But not too old. They make up for it in enthusiasm.
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Post by milee on Jun 15, 2015 11:51:53 GMT -5
I hate to burst your bubble, but being impressed with your car isn't the same thing as being so impressed with you that he is willing to bridge the age gap for more than a one-nighter. 2 x 20 is 40 and he is looking for Mommy. 2 x 30 is 60 and he is looking for money. My friends and I were just talking about this the other day and we think there's some sort of culture shift that's been happening that somehow makes the 40 something fit women appealing to the younger guys. Maybe because the term "cougar" has become popular and it's not such a crazy idea, but it seems like for some of the younger guys - 20s and 30s - older women must hold some sort of appeal. I'm nothing special looking, but I am fit, and over the last few years have had more 20-30 year old guys try to pick me up than I did in my 30s. Same for most of my friends. Granted, most of my friends are really attractive, so probably appeal to any man that's breathing no matter what the age. But there seems to be some sort of unspoken thing out there where the young guys are now kind of intrigued by the fit 40 somethings... and not in remotely a mommy kind of way.
On the other hand, my 60+ year old friends tell me that most of the guys that seem interested in them are looking for a "nurse with a purse".
As for the OP, commission sales is all about making a personal connection. And cell phone sales is very much a high pressure commission sales thing. Any person selling cell phones is going to be your "instant best friend". If you didn't have a car, they'd be talking to you about your pets or hobbies. None of this necessarily indicates interest in you. It's only after you get the business out of the way (sign up for a plan) that you'd be able to see if he keeps talking to you. But given that your post on trying to find money to pay your car insurance mentioned that you're in the red each month already, committing to a phone plan might not be a good idea right now.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 15, 2015 11:53:40 GMT -5
I hate to burst your bubble, but being impressed with your car isn't the same thing as being so impressed with you that he is willing to bridge the age gap for more than a one-nighter. 2 x 20 is 40 and he is looking for Mommy. 2 x 30 is 60 and he is looking for money. My friends and I were just talking about this the other day and we think there's some sort of culture shift that's been happening that somehow makes the 40 something fit women appealing to the younger guys. Maybe because the term "cougar" has become popular and it's not such a crazy idea, but it seems like for some of the younger guys - 20s and 30s - older women must hold some sort of appeal. I'm nothing special looking, but I am fit, and over the last few years have had more 20-30 year old guys try to pick me up than I did in my 30s. Same for most of my friends. Granted, most of my friends are really attractive, so probably appeal to any man that's breathing no matter what the age. But there seems to be some sort of unspoken thing out there where the young guys are now kind of intrigued by the fit 40 somethings... and not in remotely a mommy kind of way.
On the other hand, my 60+ year old friends tell me that most of the guys that seem interested in them are looking for a "nurse with a purse".
As for the OP, commission sales is all about making a personal connection. And cell phone sales is very much a high pressure commission sales thing. Any person selling cell phones is going to be your "instant best friend". If you didn't have a car, they'd be talking to you about your pets or hobbies. None of this necessarily indicates interest in you. It's only after you get the business out of the way (sign up for a plan) that you'd be able to see if he keeps talking to you. But given that your post on trying to find money to pay your car insurance mentioned that you're in the red each month already, committing to a phone plan might not be a good idea right now.
women peak sexually in their 30s to 40s, men peak sexually in their 20s to early 30s... hormonally it makes perfect sense.
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Post by milee on Jun 15, 2015 12:25:18 GMT -5
My friends and I were just talking about this the other day and we think there's some sort of culture shift that's been happening that somehow makes the 40 something fit women appealing to the younger guys. Maybe because the term "cougar" has become popular and it's not such a crazy idea, but it seems like for some of the younger guys - 20s and 30s - older women must hold some sort of appeal. I'm nothing special looking, but I am fit, and over the last few years have had more 20-30 year old guys try to pick me up than I did in my 30s. Same for most of my friends. Granted, most of my friends are really attractive, so probably appeal to any man that's breathing no matter what the age. But there seems to be some sort of unspoken thing out there where the young guys are now kind of intrigued by the fit 40 somethings... and not in remotely a mommy kind of way.
On the other hand, my 60+ year old friends tell me that most of the guys that seem interested in them are looking for a "nurse with a purse".
As for the OP, commission sales is all about making a personal connection. And cell phone sales is very much a high pressure commission sales thing. Any person selling cell phones is going to be your "instant best friend". If you didn't have a car, they'd be talking to you about your pets or hobbies. None of this necessarily indicates interest in you. It's only after you get the business out of the way (sign up for a plan) that you'd be able to see if he keeps talking to you. But given that your post on trying to find money to pay your car insurance mentioned that you're in the red each month already, committing to a phone plan might not be a good idea right now.
women peak sexually in their 30s to 40s, men peak sexually in their 20s to early 30s... hormonally it makes perfect sense. Yeah, but since when did guys' behavior regarding women make perfect sense?
Obviously kidding, but there's some truth to that as well. If guys were logical about their dating, then they'd be chasing not the 9 or 10 airhead but the 6 or 7 fully employed chick with the house and 401k who will be so happy to have them that she'll do all sorts of weird and wonderful things that the 9 or 10 will want cash up front for. We don't need studies to show us that this is not how the vast majority of dating works...
As for the 40 something women thing, maybe in the past guys have found older women attractive but haven't acted on that because it wasn't as socially acceptable as it is now? No idea, but it's still surprising to me when it happens. Especially when they're obviously hot enough that they shouldn't be having any issues attracting women of their same age if that's what they wanted.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 15, 2015 12:30:26 GMT -5
women peak sexually in their 30s to 40s, men peak sexually in their 20s to early 30s... hormonally it makes perfect sense. Yeah, but since when did guys' behavior regarding women make perfect sense?
Obviously kidding, but there's some truth to that as well. If guys were logical about their dating, then they'd be chasing not the 9 or 10 airhead but the 6 or 7 fully employed chick with the house and 401k who will be so happy to have them that she'll do all sorts of weird and wonderful things that the 9 or 10 will want cash up front for. We don't need studies to show us that this is not how the vast majority of dating works...
As for the 40 something women thing, maybe in the past guys have found older women attractive but haven't acted on that because it wasn't as socially acceptable as it is now? No idea, but it's still surprising to me when it happens. Especially when they're obviously hot enough that they shouldn't be having any issues attracting women of their same age if that's what they wanted.
maybe young guys think a 40-something woman is less likely to want marriage, a house with a picket fence, and 1.5 kids than a woman their age... especially if the woman has already had her kids, is in shape, and isup for a light and fun relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 12:49:13 GMT -5
Yeah, but since when did guys' behavior regarding women make perfect sense?
Obviously kidding, but there's some truth to that as well. If guys were logical about their dating, then they'd be chasing not the 9 or 10 airhead but the 6 or 7 fully employed chick with the house and 401k who will be so happy to have them that she'll do all sorts of weird and wonderful things that the 9 or 10 will want cash up front for. We don't need studies to show us that this is not how the vast majority of dating works...
As for the 40 something women thing, maybe in the past guys have found older women attractive but haven't acted on that because it wasn't as socially acceptable as it is now? No idea, but it's still surprising to me when it happens. Especially when they're obviously hot enough that they shouldn't be having any issues attracting women of their same age if that's what they wanted.
maybe young guys think a 40-something woman is less likely to want marriage, a house with a picket fence, and 1.5 kids than a woman their age... especially if the woman has already had her kids, is in shape, and isup for a light and fun relationship. I think we are defining relationship differently. Even Demi Moore discovered little boys do grow out of it.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 12:56:25 GMT -5
Young guys aren't as experienced anyway. You want to be going after the older ones. But not too old. ahem, my 25-year-old was VERY good... much better than the older ones I've been with. Maybe it was just the young ones I have encountered. One is 25 and did a lot of false advertising, but was quite enthusiastic. The one who was 28 I don't think counted. We were friends who went drinking together and most of the time were drunk when the sex occurred. Old Dude is 55 and he was very good. Who knows, maybe it's me.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 13:01:57 GMT -5
I am, however, thinking about dating Hispanics again. I used to stay away from them as hispanic men are too crazy. But, the crazies do know what they are doing in the bedroom. I haven't decided yet, just thinking about it for now.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 15, 2015 13:17:26 GMT -5
the 25-year-old was Puerto Rican...
I seem to be mostly attracted to WASP-y, J. Crew-type all-American white guys. Maybe it's all that suburban living (in a predominately white area), maybe it's because I feel like my interests are more in line with theirs than with most black guys my age, maybe because I've never had a problem with them treating me like a piece of meat or teasing me about my mannerisms. I don't know, but it's pretty much been that way since the onset of puberty. Guys in other groups will catch my eye, but yeah - seems to be mostly hot white yuppies/hipsters. Started getting into the geeky-looking hipsters with tattoos and short beards a little bit though.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Jun 15, 2015 13:18:30 GMT -5
the 25-year-old was Puerto Rican... I seem to be mostly attracted to WASP-y, J. Crew-type all-American white guys. Those guys are the worst.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 13:32:35 GMT -5
I used to date white guys exclusively and for some reason, I've been dating black guys for a while. When I date my own race, it's usually the no English speaking fresh from the border guys. There have been a few cholos in there, but for the most part, it's been Border G's.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 15, 2015 13:45:22 GMT -5
the 25-year-old was Puerto Rican... I seem to be mostly attracted to WASP-y, J. Crew-type all-American white guys. Those guys are the worst. But they're so pretty!
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 13:49:51 GMT -5
I like my guys pretty.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 15, 2015 13:50:31 GMT -5
I think I'll wait until I am in my 80s before I take a 20-something to the movies; grrrrr --- why did DS2 have to wait so long before having kids, at least I'll know that there won't be any hanky-panky involoved and he'll be handsome since he takes after his daddy HA! I win
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 15, 2015 13:52:14 GMT -5
I've found that Jewish men are the best lovers. They're like kids in a candy store, full of unbridled joy and open to new experiences.
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Post by milee on Jun 15, 2015 14:01:04 GMT -5
I've found that Jewish men are the best lovers. They're like kids in a candy store, full of unbridled joy and open to new experiences. No idea on what it's like to sleep with Jewish men, but my sister is very happy with hers. He's a nice guy. Her favorite moment of all time was when she was complaining about the cellulite on the back of her legs; he (seriously, not being at all sarcastic, honestly and innocently) asked, "What's cellulite?"
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 14:02:30 GMT -5
I've found that Jewish men are the best lovers. They're like kids in a candy store, full of unbridled joy and open to new experiences. Note to self: Find out where the Jewish guys hang out.
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Post by Opti on Jun 15, 2015 15:48:52 GMT -5
Go for it! Nothing wrong with dating younger guys. However, if you ask him out, you pay. I guess that's why I unknowingly started this thread. I need to know how to manipulate men so they do the asking instead of me... encourage/manipulate... make the one with more $$ finance mutual meetings.................
But, yeah I really do need help to figure out, how to get someone to ask me out. That I really want to ask me out. That I would ask out, except I know I don't have funds for a date. (Damn that's confusing to me and I wrote it. Might rewrite after a nap or something.
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Post by Opti on Jun 15, 2015 15:55:45 GMT -5
If I ever date again, my rule will be fully adult brain. If legal works for you, go with that. I have not yet been attracted to people younger than me, but I did have a wonderful fling with a man in his forties when I was in my mid twenties. So, who knows? I might have a similar experience with a younger person in my forties. Monogamous relationships with people of the opposite sex who are in a similar age range can work well, but they often fail. Other arrangements can work well also. All intimate relationships end in death or disappointment. Well, death, divorce, disappointment, and sometimes murder, which is death, but the icky mean kind.
I have never been attracted to men older than me except for a few years older. No wonderful flings yet with anyone more than 10 years age difference, but especially since my 30s, I think 10 years younger would work far better for me than 10 years older.
Intelligent and interesting are requirements for me. One can be an ass at any age, or childlike. Maturity usually does take some years of living, but for some rare individuals, not so much.
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Post by obelisk on Jun 15, 2015 15:56:31 GMT -5
Join an escort service
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Post by Opti on Jun 15, 2015 15:58:05 GMT -5
Join an escort service I don't think they want 55 year old escorts.
Unless there's a MILF escort service you know about?
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 16:02:19 GMT -5
Go for it! Nothing wrong with dating younger guys. However, if you ask him out, you pay. I guess that's why I unknowingly started this thread. I need to know how to manipulate men so they do the asking instead of me... encourage/manipulate... make the one with more $$ finance mutual meetings.................
But, yeah I really do need help to figure out, how to get someone to ask me out. That I really want to ask me out. That I would ask out, except I know I don't have funds for a date. (Damn that's confusing to me and I wrote it. Might rewrite after a nap or something.
Come to the club with me. I'll show you how it's done.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2015 16:05:53 GMT -5
Join an escort service I don't think they want 55 year old escorts.
Unless there's a MILF escort service you know about?
That could be a money maker!
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Post by Opti on Jun 15, 2015 16:07:41 GMT -5
I hate to burst your bubble, but being impressed with your car isn't the same thing as being so impressed with you that he is willing to bridge the age gap for more than a one-nighter. DH has a 2006 BMW, and lots of my students are "impressed." They appreciate cars. It isn't flirting when they talk me up about what the car has and does. If you are twice his age . . . 2 x 15 is 30 and illegal. 2 x 20 is 40 and he is looking for Mommy. 2 x 30 is 60 and he is looking for money. Why are YOU interested? Bless your heart, for your opinion.
Why is it some women can look for older men, and its about financial security and if its the reverse its something about mommy or worse? It probably has roots in finances, or, that is my fear. No bubble bursting needed. I'm less impressed by my car than most people."If you are twice his age . . . 2 x 15 is 30 and illegal."
WTE? I'm 55, last I checked anyone over 18 is legal in all US states. My personal limit I set many years ago is 23. Unfortunately in 2010, 50-24 is 26 was OK. Was over 23. Didn't happen in the end, as I think it freaked both of us out, to seriously be attracted to each other.
I started the thread because while I might be OK with a temporary relationship, I am not interested or fishing for one night stands. I don't like rules, but I'd prefer 5 or less up and 12 max down.
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