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Post by ed1066 on Mar 9, 2011 18:00:28 GMT -5
I particularly like this gem by the head of the DOE, basically saying that public schools are no place for intelligent kids: www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gPmjfDMN5nHOpeSIZYLwkVfKAHGQ?docId=c7dc0757afd54b5ca2836c00de44535fAn estimated 82 percent of U.S. schools could be labeled as "failing" under the nation's No Child Left Behind Act this year, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Wednesday. The Department of Education estimates the number of schools not meeting targets will skyrocket from 37 to 82 percent in 2011 because states are toughening their standards to meet the requirements of the law. The schools will face sanctions ranging from offering tutoring to closing their doors. "No Child Left Behind is broken and we need to fix it now," Duncan said in a statement. "This law has created a thousand ways for schools to fail and very few ways to help them succeed." Duncan delivered the news in remarks to a House education and work force committee hearing, in urging lawmakers to rewrite the Bush-era act. The law was established in 2002 and many education officials and experts argue it is overdue for changes. President Barack Obama has highlighted reforming the act as a priority for his administration, and both Democrats and Republicans have agreed that it needs to be changed — though disagreements remain on how. The current law sets annual student achievement targets designed with the goal of having all students proficient in math and reading by 2014, a standard now viewed as wildly unrealistic.
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Post by dancinmama on Mar 9, 2011 18:03:55 GMT -5
It sounds like they are putting the blame on NCLB, but the system was broken way before that was implemented,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2011 18:11:46 GMT -5
NCLB is horrid. I do believe its real intention was to try to bring about the privitization of schooling.
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Post by steff on Mar 9, 2011 18:12:36 GMT -5
No Child Left behind was a clusterf**k idea that fast tracked the destruction of our schools.....
and now which President was it that came up with it and thought it was the greatest thing ever? When in reality it's so broken and so eff'ed up that our children's educations are suffering....
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 9, 2011 18:40:23 GMT -5
If my kids were in public school, I would be fighting tooth and nail to fix these problems, rather than laying around blaming a nine-year old policy from an almost three-years gone president for the problems. But then again, my kids aren't being victimized by this system, so I really don't care...
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 9, 2011 21:47:38 GMT -5
I particularly like this gem by the head of the DOE, basically saying that public schools are no place for intelligent kids:
. ... [/quote] Some of the students most at risk are intelligent kids. Many of those not at risk really aren't all that bright either.
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Post by steff on Mar 9, 2011 21:59:21 GMT -5
I would be fighting tooth and nail to fix these problems
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I fight the school district tooth & nail quite often thank you very much.... on everything from curriculum & teachers to my son's medical condition.... over the next year, I'll be fighting to keep his charter school open since the new Georgia govn decided 'let's raise stupid kids' is his new education slogan....
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Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 9, 2011 22:04:15 GMT -5
It sounds like they are putting the blame on NCLB, but the system was broken way before that was implemented, I agree, I think NCLB was just the little nudge that was needed to make the edcuation system start falling off the cliff.
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Post by marjar on Mar 9, 2011 22:04:48 GMT -5
If my kids were in public school, I would be fighting tooth and nail to fix these problems, rather than laying around blaming a nine-year old policy from an almost three-years gone president for the problems. But then again, my kids aren't being victimized by this system, so I really don't care... Been there, done that.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 9, 2011 22:06:22 GMT -5
I particularly like this gem by the head of the DOE, basically saying that public schools are no place for intelligent kids:
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Some of the students most at risk are intelligent kids. Many of those not at risk really aren't all that bright either. Totally agree with bills on this. When my brother was teaching(he quit by the way because he hated the system) he said that the intelligent children wasn't able to get any focus to help them excel, instead he thought that their talents were being held back by the current system.
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Post by marjar on Mar 9, 2011 22:08:51 GMT -5
Some of the students most at risk are intelligent kids. Many of those not at risk really aren't all that bright either. Totally agree with bills on this. When my brother was teaching(he quit by the way because he hated the system) he said that the intelligent children wasn't able to get any focus to help them excel, instead he thought that their talents were being held back by the current system. I agree, but I also feel that depends on the school and school system. Frankly, I don't think ability grouping is a bad thing.
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Post by steff on Mar 9, 2011 22:11:34 GMT -5
he said that the intelligent children wasn't able to get any focus to help them excel, instead he thought that their talents were being held back by the current system.
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this is why I have fought so hard to get my son into any advanced program I could, starting in elementary school...before he could be lost in the system....
Now he's in an experimental public charter school and the program is in the top 5 that our new (Repub) govn plans to do away with.....
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 9, 2011 22:17:11 GMT -5
I have a question-does the United States still have trade high schools where in addition to learning the basics they also learn a trade? When I went to school in the 50s and 60s our city had a trade high school where students who attended did learn a skill they could take with them upon graduating high school.
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Post by marjar on Mar 9, 2011 22:20:56 GMT -5
I have a question-does the United States still have trade high schools where in addition to learning the basics they also learn a trade? When I went to school in the 50s and 60s our city had a trade high school where students who attended did learn a skill they could take with them upon graduating high school. Some schools systems have vocational schools where students can learn trade skills such as bricklaying, floral design, etc. and earn a high school diploma.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 9, 2011 22:28:45 GMT -5
I have a question-does the United States still have trade high schools where in addition to learning the basics they also learn a trade? When I went to school in the 50s and 60s our city had a trade high school where students who attended did learn a skill they could take with them upon graduating high school. Yes. www.newmarketskills.com/index.php?id=1
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I have a question-does the United States still have trade high schools where in addition to learning the basics they also learn a trade? When I went to school in the 50s and 60s our city had a trade high school where students who attended did learn a skill they could take with them upon graduating high school. Some schools systems have vocational schools where students can learn trade skills such as bricklaying, floral design, etc. and earn a high school diploma. Maybe some have bricklaying but this one has" 1002 PROGRAM DESCRIPTIONS ACADEMY OF FINANCE - The Academy of Finance program offers a nationally developed curriculum covering: Economics and the World of Finance, Banking and Credit, Financial Planning Securities, Insurance, International Finance, Introduction to Financial Services, Accounting, Business Computer Applications, Strategies for Success, and Principles of Finance. Training includes skills for entry level banking careers and the opportunity for hands-on experience in the campus branch of the Washington State Employees Credit Union. Students may also select specialized self-study curriculum from the National Academy of Finance. Internships are an integral part of the course. Up to 13 college credits available AMPS: ALTERNATIVE ENERGY – The Alternative Energy program is centered on understanding the principals of energy transfer and manipulation as well as electricity conversion. A solid grasp of power sources, fuel options, voltage, watts, amps, power grids, and electrical efficiency will spark student interest in this challenging career field by discovering various ways to meet mounting consumer demands. Students will gain a global perspective of how multiple energy and fuel sources including electricity are produced through generation, transmission and distribution. Students will research and develop various energy sources, both renewable and nonrenewable for commercial, residential, and transportation industries; investigating the potential environmental impact of each source. The AMPS: Alternative Energy program will engage students in the exploration and experimentation of current and prospective conservation and consumer assistance strategies focused on the effective use of energy. This program partners with the Centralia Community College Center of Excellence and will offer future articulation and apprenticeship opportunities for students. Up to 14 college credits available AUTOMOTIVE SERVICE TECHNOLOGY – The Automotive Service Technology program is a National Automotive Service Training and Education Foundation (NATEF) certificated training facility. The program focuses on the four basic ASE areas and is divided into two sections: Automotive Electronics and Engine Performance, and Brakes and Suspension. Automotive Electronics is a pre-requisite for Engine Performance. We are also part of the Automotive Youth Education System (AYES) providing internship and employment opportunities at local repair facilities. Course work is taught by ASE Certified Technicians, and provides the skills and training necessary for four ASE certifications. Program fees may apply. Up to 37 college credits available upon 2 year completion
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Post by marjar on Mar 9, 2011 23:03:22 GMT -5
I know someone who took brick laying. Personally, I think a good brick layer is an artist.
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 10, 2011 11:29:01 GMT -5
My country has a full time Tech HS. It is a public school and anyone in the county can go there for free. I am sure that the local district has to hand over the money that would have gone for them if they had gone to their local HS.
It is by application only though. It seems to be part old fashioned Vo-Tech and part prep school. This is a small sampling of the types of things they can choose to study.
Cosmetology Allied Medical Dental Assisting Culinary Arts Graphic Design Technology Heating, Cooling, Plumbing, Elec. Academic Syllabus Early Childhood Development Natural Sciences Technology Pre-engineering Technology Pastry & Baking
So they have a mix of things they can choose from. They can choose to go to dental hygenist school and have an ability to get a decent job right out of HS. Or they can get a very good technical prep HS education and be all set for going to college to be an engineer or accountant.
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Mar 10, 2011 11:34:36 GMT -5
It sounds like they are putting the blame on NCLB, but the system was broken way before that was implemented, ...true that...
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Mar 10, 2011 11:38:28 GMT -5
NCLB is horrid. I do believe its real intention was to try to bring about the privitization of schooling. ...I agree it's horrid... I don't agree its intent was to bring about privatization... but that would be a very nice residual benefit...
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Mar 10, 2011 11:40:09 GMT -5
<<< Frankly, I don't think ability grouping is a bad thing. >>> ...agreed...
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 10, 2011 11:40:52 GMT -5
It sounds like they are putting the blame on NCLB, but the system was broken way before that was implemented, ...true that... My personal library contains a fair number of books from the 1960's that look at the broken educational system.
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Post by rockon on Mar 10, 2011 11:53:35 GMT -5
NCLB was and is a complete failure but I thought this program was promoted by the late Senator Ted Kennedy?
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 10, 2011 11:54:03 GMT -5
And your nursing home!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 10, 2011 12:01:42 GMT -5
I for one, am shocked. I thought for sure a big government monopoly would work "this time". The good news is that we've only had the Department of Education since 1979. Elminating it will make this mistake a very short blip in history-- a historical nano-second. And the free market will fix education in a fraction of the time it took to destroy it as the market works almost instantaneously when allowed to work.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 10, 2011 12:02:30 GMT -5
I'm unabashedly for the abolition of the government run school monopoly. Time to bust this trust!
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